Testing Prius Hybrid battery cell health the easy way

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
  • Using a $40 Harbor Freight 12 volt battery tester to test the health of individual cells of my 2008 Toyota Prius battery.
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  • @shanewatkins5636
    @shanewatkins5636 Місяць тому +2

    What a great help! Found one more needing replaced. Imagine putting it all back together and finding that out the hard way! Thank you!!

  • @kellyfitzpatrick4355
    @kellyfitzpatrick4355 5 місяців тому +2

    Excellent! I actually gave up after trying to test cells and replaced a battery. I won't do that again!

  • @Adzeoda
    @Adzeoda 5 місяців тому +3

    This is really helpful for future reference....apparently I had all I needed already😂

  • @1981zamora
    @1981zamora 4 дні тому

    Greta! Info. I highly appreciated it

  • @dc5duben96
    @dc5duben96 6 місяців тому +1

    thanks for the info! really helps me out just diving into my battery problems

  • @DavidHunt-s5u
    @DavidHunt-s5u 15 днів тому +1

    This information Is outstanding based on all the other info out there. I have a 2010 Lexus GS 450H with a Panasonic 40 model pack hybrid battery, that I removed myself, testing cells they all were 7.6 7.7 with a volt meter. However I didn't know about this tool until watching this video. Every cell tested 100% good the internal resistance each cell was between 4.89 to 5.33 . I noticed the battery had been worked on before it was actually missing a busbar . So I ordered a replacement busbar that will be here today and I will put it on and put the hybrid battery back in the car..

  • @sanjeewawga
    @sanjeewawga Місяць тому

    ❤❤ Great tricks.. Thanks Mate

  • @alext8828
    @alext8828 3 місяці тому +1

    I saw a video, way back, where they used a regular load tester on a newly assembled battery and went right along checking each module, disregarding polarity.
    The tester was one of the ones that's box shape w/ all the holes in the front and a meter above that. There was a switch at the bottom and it had short cables with large alligator clamps. HFT $20, I think the type was. 100 amp carbon pile.
    I'm sure there is no reading of internal resistance but it shows the draw=down over a few seconds. I wanted to know your opinion on all that.
    Specifically, does internal resistance correlate to voltage draw down?

    • @RogerPack
      @RogerPack 11 днів тому

      Would love to find that vid. I think I have one and it doesn't show voltage when connected backwards, but can still drain the battery. Maybe they had a separate meter attached to the leads at the time, that would still read it but negative? I know people that use that tool for load testing hybrid batteries...

  • @thetruthaboutusa.8735
    @thetruthaboutusa.8735 Місяць тому +1

    Unfortunately doesn't work that way. I used this Viking battery meter on my Prius 3rd generation cells and it showed 100% state of health, 7.95V on everyone and very low internal resistance. Even though my battery had a problem on block 13. I had to run a Dr. Prius app test to see it and disassemble the battery again to replace it.

    • @RogerPack
      @RogerPack 10 днів тому

      Did you test them disconnected I presume? If so that's a bummer, guess it means this tool can't detect the more subtle failure?

  • @kingcarz2896
    @kingcarz2896 Місяць тому +1

    So what should me ohms range be? Like 4.5 to 5.5 or what? Please let me know.

  • @waqarbokhari675
    @waqarbokhari675 3 місяці тому

    I used the onwei tester and it come out as all the modules are bad.
    It also give you an option to choose the kind of battery, like agm, lithium and 4 others.
    Resistance was around 5.4 and 6 all across.
    I don't think this really work good for hybrid battery module.

  • @bestsurfersofalltime
    @bestsurfersofalltime 15 днів тому

    I swaped the bad module and re conected everything. Still getting red triangle and car won't start. Am I supposed to let it sit for a day so the battery levels even out?

    • @cvedeler
      @cvedeler  13 днів тому

      If your modules are testing good (above 60%) it should work. If you are still getting the red triangle there is likely something else going on. No need to even out the batteries as the car will do that for you over a few days.

    • @RogerPack
      @RogerPack 11 днів тому

      New codes? I think I once forgot to re install the orange safety level LOL.

    • @RogerPack
      @RogerPack 11 днів тому

      Saw one like yours on Prius chat and they had a loose bus bar on reconnection fwiw...

  • @venkaeswararveeramachaneni8798
    @venkaeswararveeramachaneni8798 4 місяці тому +1

    i used the tester you used. results voltage abovr 7.55 all cells resistance 5.00 milli ohms, all 100 healthy. but says all cell have zero charge left. what is the solution.how to charge ?

    • @cvedeler
      @cvedeler  4 місяці тому

      7.55 volts is too low. They should be closer to 8 volts. My lowest voltage cell was 7.71. If the cell resistance is 5.0 but the voltage is low, that points to a different issue, possibly with the charging system. Good luck!

    • @RogerPack
      @RogerPack 10 днів тому

      Was it throwing codes?

  • @e.g.5385
    @e.g.5385 3 місяці тому +1

    When you replaced the bad module, did you have high voltage difference compared to the other modules? I replaced a module and showing 1.2 voltage difference and throws the "check hybrid system" p0a80 code on my odb2 reader. I need help.

    • @cvedeler
      @cvedeler  3 місяці тому +1

      The voltage of the cells wasn't my problem. All my cells were +/- less than 1 volt. It was the internal resistance that caused my problem.

    • @RogerPack
      @RogerPack 10 днів тому

      Is this right after install? Did it go away on its own?

    • @RogerPack
      @RogerPack 10 днів тому

      @@cvedeler It throws codes if internal resistance gets out of whack? Or were voltages also weird?

  • @jayviz
    @jayviz 3 місяці тому +1

    thank you for this great video. What does this device do differently than simply using a multimeter to test resistance?

    • @cvedeler
      @cvedeler  3 місяці тому +5

      It puts a load on the battery and tests internal resistance. My simple multimeter can only test resistance, but can't even do that with voltage present. .

    • @jayviz
      @jayviz 3 місяці тому +2

      @@cvedeler Ahh, I see. Since anyone considering this procedure probably already owns a charging unit, I am wondering if the resistance feature on such battery chargers would work just as well, or are they inferior in some way? I have the SKYRC B6AC for example.

    • @RogerPack
      @RogerPack 11 днів тому

      ​@@jayvizif it tests internal resistance it's good. This device appears to also do a load test of some sort ... Which you can do with the Skyrim stuff but possibly not as quickly?

  • @sardoggy
    @sardoggy Місяць тому

    Nice!

  • @adrianleighuk
    @adrianleighuk 5 місяців тому +1

    A question. Once reassembled did this help resolve the issue and if so in your experience what was the best internal resistance as a guide? Thanks for the video. A great idea by the way.

    • @cvedeler
      @cvedeler  5 місяців тому +2

      It worked well. I had one terrible cell, but ended up replacing 5 others that were questionable.

    • @juanvaldes1837
      @juanvaldes1837 4 місяці тому

      ​@@cvedelervery helpful thanks a lot

    • @bestsurfersofalltime
      @bestsurfersofalltime 19 днів тому

      @@cvedeler When you say questionable. What percentage did the other cells test at? I just tested my battery this way and one was bad and several were in the 80 percentage of good. Thanks

    • @cvedeler
      @cvedeler  19 днів тому

      @@bestsurfersofalltime All the cells I ended up replacing were 50% and below. 80% should be fine.

  • @Omar-gr7km
    @Omar-gr7km 2 місяці тому

    What from the reader told you it was cell 5? I’ve got the p0a80 not sure which cell(s) though

    • @RogerPack
      @RogerPack 11 днів тому

      Usually it'll have another coffee like p3024 though it might be separated. "Car scanner" (or similar) app with an obd2 Bluetooth can read them...

  • @sleepydo6463
    @sleepydo6463 5 місяців тому +1

    silly question but is the 2012 Prius battery same layout?

    • @cvedeler
      @cvedeler  5 місяців тому

      I believe it is similar.

    • @mattaitchey4917
      @mattaitchey4917 4 місяці тому +2

      2012 will have "low ir" modules, so this ir based test method wont be any use to you

    • @MervsServiceSecrets
      @MervsServiceSecrets 3 місяці тому

      ​@@mattaitchey4917 I wondered about that as well. For anybody that has monitored resistance using the simple dr prius app, 19 to 20 milliohms is pretty common. Yet in this video, he rejects the one with 17 milliohms as being bad.

    • @mattaitchey4917
      @mattaitchey4917 3 місяці тому +2

      @@MervsServiceSecrets would have been a better module than the others!

    • @MervsServiceSecrets
      @MervsServiceSecrets 3 місяці тому

      @@mattaitchey4917 I don't think I've ever seen a module with a resistance of 5!

  • @meinalixie2263
    @meinalixie2263 2 місяці тому

    how do you know number 10 is bad, you said the OB2 said number 5 bad, but it is number10

    • @cvedeler
      @cvedeler  2 місяці тому

      They are paired together.

    • @meinalixie2263
      @meinalixie2263 2 місяці тому

      @@cvedeler How about the 60heath? 70? 90?

  • @jayviz
    @jayviz 3 місяці тому +1

    won't the resistance feature on a battery charger measure this just as precisely? I'm guessing if anyone has yanked their battery, they are preparing to charge it with such a charger. My sky RC charger for example can measure resistance. Or is that inferior in some way?

    • @RogerPack
      @RogerPack 11 днів тому

      Should be same. This has some element of load test as well, which you can do in the Skyrim stuff maybe not as quickly?

  • @venkaeswararveeramachaneni8798
    @venkaeswararveeramachaneni8798 4 місяці тому +1

    thanks for the prompt reply..

  • @stevenabnoosian2028
    @stevenabnoosian2028 5 місяців тому +1

    That was really helpful
    Thank you 🙏

  • @rayluo4665
    @rayluo4665 3 місяці тому +1

    Chris, your test method was indeed creative. But are there devices more suitable for this kind of testing? The battery tester you used was originally designed to test the 12v starter battery, not for a 7.2v (nominal) module. Other than worrying about the reading would be inaccurate, I do not know how that "500A cold cranking amp" was tested, and I wouldn't attempt (until I watched your video) to use it, for fearing that it would draw too much amps from the battery module thus potentially damaging it.

    • @cvedeler
      @cvedeler  3 місяці тому +7

      I'm sure there are many deices more suitable, but they are likely more expensive and harder to find. This is cheap, easily available and works well enough to find the bad cells. I was a little worried about the fact the device is for 12 volt batteries and not 8 volts. But it turned out working anyway. Lower voltage is probably less a concern to higher voltage. Accuracy isn't the goal, but rather finding the cells that may show adequate voltage but fail under load. Such a small device can't possibly draw 500 amps so I wasn't too worried about that.

  • @joselarrarte6964
    @joselarrarte6964 Місяць тому

    I just replaced 3:54 all the blocks of my Lexus CT200h (same as prius.) After all done, the P3021 came up; it indicates that block 11 becomes weak. Any ideas? Do you think one of the blocks came bad? I refurbished all the blocks my self at once with new cylindrical ones. 😢

    • @RogerPack
      @RogerPack 10 днів тому

      bad new module or busbars not connected well?

  • @reallybigfooted
    @reallybigfooted Місяць тому

    Genius idea, thanks

  • @DUARTE-777
    @DUARTE-777 2 місяці тому

    Thank you thank you❤ so much man🙏🏽

  • @venkaeswararveeramachaneni8798
    @venkaeswararveeramachaneni8798 4 місяці тому

    car stopped on the road 2 week ago. can the battery be reconditioned ? getting a dual charger/discharger.

    • @RogerPack
      @RogerPack 11 днів тому

      If you're lucky, is it a pack style charger?

  • @anhtoan19
    @anhtoan19 5 місяців тому

    Can I send it to Japan?

  • @BFKGintaras
    @BFKGintaras 3 місяці тому

    Wow ! Thank you