What are the SHADOW TYPES of the 16 Personalities?
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- Explaining the shadow types, shadow functions, and romantic compatibility of the 16 Personalities with their shadow type.
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00:00 Intro
00:31 How to know your shadow type
01:46 Shadow Functions Explained
06:45 Is Shadow Most Compatible Pair?
In my opinion, the shadow functions actually makes the theory more realistic and less fake.
We all use all the functions. People who are indecisive about their function stack like me know that all too well! But it's also common knowledge.
How, in MBTI, how do you use all the functions to exist, yet your stack only has 4 out of the 8 functions which exist? Where are the others, if not in a separate stack?
If you're xSxJ or xNxP, you have no Se or Ni whatsoever? So you can't react to the world around you, and you can't develop long-term plans? That seems unrealistic, yet it's exactly what the "4 functions only" model says.
As an INFJ, do you not have any sensory memories? Do you not have the ability to think of ideas and brainstorm? Do you not have internal values? Do you not have the ability to be organised and productive and to apply your logic to the outside world? These abilities aren't in your stack. But everyone can do them to some extent, right!?
For Frank, and all the "4 functions only" believers, those traits you mention can be made with the 4 first functions. So, for example, an INTP would react to the world around them, but with their Ne. That's the theory at least.
Since I'm an INFJ like Frank, maybe I know his reason for calling it fake.
Anyway for me, adding the 4 functions you don't use consciously, doesn't add much to the definition of the type itself. As he stated, besides the functions itself there is a direction, introverted or extroverted, which is the only differentiator to the functions. It's still kind of the same.
However it just depends how you define it. I think it's not about telling people that they have or have not cognitive functions, it's about focussing at the important ones.
If you are good with your hands but have no skills regarding foot work, you don't mention it, right? If I have Ni dom, sure I can come up with more than one solution but I will see no reason for it + might not even be able to have like 5+ ideas because my mind just goes 'Why the f should there be more'. Sure everyone has feelings but if I tend to focus more on other's emotions with my strong Fe, do I need to mention Fi? It's my tendency and for the 2 strongest functions, the difference to the shadow function is usually huge.
And last, theories should make a frame but still be abstract. If you have twice the detail, you also cut the interest of half of the people. Personality theories should not be so detailed, there are a lot of people who already disagrees with the 4 function system of MBTI... I mean, people even have subtypes for MBTI types. We can do all, we are humans after all, no need to emphasize it more.
TLDR: Functions are the same, they only differ in extroversion/introversion, focus on important ones, no use to mention (very) weak functions barely used and especially not used consciously, too much details can destroy a theory/concept.
I think he meant if you have Si or Ne for exemple, you still have S and N so you're able to us it in a Se or Ni way even if it's less natural to you. So that is why bringing 4 other functions wouldn't be necessary.
honestly i'd rather look at the objective personality channel where they tell you you can simulate the other 4 functions by combining the ones you already have. it sounds much more simpler.
@@shieldsaint Shadow functions are not main functions and are activated in stress situations. I take ENTP as example, cause I am one. For example I am doing some extreme sport. That is not a situation when you use Si or Ne, but Se, cause you need to read situation and react fast. When I am in such condition I feel how my sences are more clear and fast.
Fi is tricky one with ENTP, cause ENTP seems to be so detached, but when ENTP really develops attachment to someone it would be really strong and hard to brake, for example pet died and feel really bad about that, which is work of Fi.
When something in logic of Ti is not matching, which is stressful for logic, you start to looking for actual evidence and proofs using Te.
If all that ideas around you are not interesting, or if there are no new ideas for Ne, Ne switches to Ni for generating new own ideas. That's actually reason why Ne types are most creative, couse lack of ideas around makes stress and switches to Ni.
this kind of makes me want a “16 personalities interact with their shadow types” video lol
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I was literally thinking the same thing!
yes!! That’d be so good!
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Yes!!
My older sister's type is my shadow type.
It was quite frustrating growing up together because we both perceived each other's cognitive process as a weakness.
As adults, I've noticed that when we get really stressed out, we tend to "look like" each other's type (probably because we see our own way of problem solving isn't working, so may as well go for the exact opposite). Only problem with that is that we aren't good at using our opposite functions, and just tend to mimic each other's strengths in self-destructive methods.
My son is my shadow type!! The dynamic is so interesting, and we clashed for SO MANY YEARS. We're great now (he's 14), though!
My mom is my shadow type, and given that she's one of the ExTJs, our relationship is still defined by the idea that I have a ton of potential and I'm wasting it for no reason. She gets along way better with my sister, who she at least understands that she doesn't understand.
My 2 daughters are shadow of each other. Together they are a powerhouse! What one lacks, the other excels. There's rarely any competition between them because they so different yet together they can accomplish anything. The older one is INFJ the younger is ENFP.
AKDKQKDNAJA YO Y MI MAMÁ, mi mamá es mi shadow type pero no nos llevamos mal en general, pero tampoco creo que seamos el par perfecto ni mucho menos y la vdd si tenemos bastantes cosas en común ( será mi mamá? :v ) y la amo mucho wajaj xd
@@eynta2 Me and my sister are the same and we definitely have a lot of conflict. However I'll say we have more in common than we don't and usually come back around. We have similar interests, but different ways of percieving them
Wow, I actually missed your educational videos so much, Frank! I know it hasn't been that long, but still... 🤷🏻♀️
I’ve been wondering about this, being together with an INTP as an ENFJ and having an INFP best friend. Makes perfectly sense.
I am best friend with an ENFJ and she totally needs to date an INTP
@@ForeverFashionGirl21 yeah I think ENFJs need someone who thinks rationally and helps them sorting out their feelings. I often feel overwhelmed and when I talk to my INTP bf he explains in 1-2 sentences to me that everything is ok and I don’t need to worry xD
Another ENFJ friend of mine is together with an ENTJ, works well too.
I wish your friend that she will find someone soon 🙏🏻
@@ForeverFashionGirl21 I'm an INTP and the ENFJs I know are very traditional but quite introverted for extroverts. I would prefer an ENTJ for practical reasons as I think they would help me with the basic survival skills I'm lacking.
Fellow ENFJ here and I'm think I'll end with a INTP partner too! 😆
@@raqueljustoo Good luck with that 😄
As an INFP, I’ve unfortunately had lifelong difficulties getting along with ENTJs. They seem to hate me because I slow them down, and I’m too sensitive to their barbs. I can’t imagine dating one. I’ve fallen madly in love with ENFJs though. Fi and Fe can create misunderstandings but can also create a beautiful dynamic. I think the shadow functions are mostly unimportant, but there’s something to it.
so you think not feel, then you are INTP
@Endless Twist it was a joke :)
yeah theres something strange about it because i feel like it should work but entjs are always so cruel and infps are the opposite idk how it works but i think you just need to find a healthy one
Im infp and my dad is entj 😂😂😳
Well said and definitely agree. ENTJ's and my INFP self are better off inhabiting entirely different sections of the planet. As far as Fi and Fe, my boyfriend is an INFJ and while we had some misunderstandings early on, we mostly do have a beautiful dynamic.
I'm an INFP and one of my best friends is an ENFJ. We're like a power team when we work together 😂
I'm an INFP and my sister's an ENFJ lol.
I'm infp and my boyfriend is enfj 😂🥰 we both focus on self growth and awareness, it's really nice to have someone that can see my blind spots and vice versa. I think being objective is the key to understanding when dating your shadow type, that and vulnerability. We share the same values, that's a must! It also helps that we are both interested in mbti, understanding why and how we have misunderstood each other has really amped up the intimacy. We've also realized taking time apart to do whatever is a must, we aren't codependent, it's more like being together is so comfortable that we don't realize how much time has gone by. My ability to branch out with ne and his to narrow things down with ni means a never ending expansion and reduction. Like breathing.
"like breathing" uhhh romantic. fellow infp here.
Very inspiring. I’m a fellow INFP
just like me (INFP) and my husband (ENFJ)
I'm an INFP and the person I have a crush on is an ENFJ. Hopefully, that I can end up together with him 🥲🥺
I disagree with this theory from my own experience.
I'm INTP and all people I like or even love are INFP's 😆
I am sensitive (HSP) and a loner (I really like being alone unless I trust you cause then I don't mind and as you might have heard/read INTP's usually trust like 1 to 3 people which are friends and partner)
Why INFP's? Cause we're great at calling each others bullshit and literally arguements never escalate to yelling or anything like that 😅 I just see the logic and If I'm overly logical you can see something I don't see with your feeling and vice versa. INFP's and INTP's tend to be overthinkers so that also helps with the "mutual understanding" part and you both will see each other as funny or cute 😂 Not mean or anything like for overthinking stuff.
Also being with an INFP for a long time isn't a problem which for a geek like me and them also isn't a problem.
One note, this definitely applies to very intelligent INFP's and INTP's. (I don't get along with not-so-smart people at all, not talking about overview, actual intelligence) INFP's are surprisingly very thinking, more than people give them credit for...
I dunno, I personally don't like to be with other thinking people, it's not that enjoyable and kind of boring and I especially hate extraverts. Not that I'm lazy or unsocial, I just don't like having to do those things cause... idk, why, I'm happy with myself and if you can be with me and make me a bit more happy and I can do the same then it's a win win and we don't even have to go anywhere. (I mean, yes, you do have to exercise a bit as a hoooman being and sometimes trips to interesting places but other than that, just nope)
I am just a chill person, I don't want any conflicts and I get no conflicts (or any big ones like with extraverts) with INFP's.
idk other types are too annoying or too boring or just don't understand.
Just speaking from experience here - I'm an INTP married to an ENTJ - we just started as friends and the MOST IMPORTANT thing in our (probably any) relationship is having clear communication. We are aware of our differences and do need to remind each-other from time to time, but we work really well together because we communicate openly. I'm sure it helps that it's almost impossible to offend either of us, so criticism is generally viewed as constructive.
Some examples:
I am generally more focused on doing something the way I think is the 'optimal' way, and he is more eager to just get things done - so when something is urgent, he will remind me that perfection isn't necessarily the goal. When there is no urgency, I'll remind him that finding the best process isn't a waste of time.
He is very good at reading the social dynamic of situations, and finds my disregard for all that a little frustrating sometimes, but more often just amusing. I'm sometimes annoyed by his persistence with things I may see as futile, but generally admire the drive and perseverance he has.
We do have a lot of common interests even though we have a different approach or slightly different values. We both work in the web hosting/building world - he manages a team, and I manage myself. We both like online gaming - He prefers co-op survival, I prefer solo story-based games. We both love D&D - I'll build a world and he'll run games in it.
Basically, my point is, regardless of type, you just have to recognize and respect each-other's strengths and weaknesses, have patience, and offer/accept help when needed.
Where do ENTJs hang out? Beginning to think I'm not an INTP because D&D ain't my thang
@@louisejoel Not quite sure, I met mine in college. To be fair I probably never would have gotten into D&D if it weren't for him, but the experience is 100% dependent on how much you like the people you play with. In general, I really like all the lore/history surrounding events and locations through the various eras and realms... I'm more into story than anything else.
@@narwhalzipan3785 Sure, I think my reason for not being into gaming is that I'm more focused on finding ways to make a living, suppose I've been pushed into my shadow
@@louisejoel Wishing you luck on your journey.
@@narwhalzipan3785 Thank you and ditto. I plan to make pottery and stream on twitch
Wow. I'm an INTJ but ENTPs are literally the kinds of people I want to be. Outgoing and charismatic. Incidentally I find ENFPs the most attractive personality so what you said in that regard checks out!
I hate being a entp nobody love me
@@meris2640 wow that's the first time I see an entp say that
@@renarey238 people should love me
@@redpandapowa 🤣
I'd love to be with an ENTP. I'd have an intellectually romantic sparring boyfriend. 😍 -- INTJ
dude I'm terrified by this "shadow" thing 😰
For what.
@@SNAPLINKSLLC It's so dark 😱
@@fairyfellermasterstroke drama queen is what I say
Was necessary to tell :/
if only they didn't have so terrifying names
I'm an INFP and my husband is an ESTJ. Sometimes I feel like he's on a different planet than me. But over time we've developed really good communication and respect for our differences. We just have different ways of viewing the world and interacting with it. Honestly, I feel that our differences bring so much to the relationship because we fill in each other's weak spots. He's ruthlessly organized and such a natural leader so when I need help, he's all too happy to step in. I'm very in touch with my emotions and that of others, so I make him slow down and process things rather than shove it in a little box. It's good to be different!
Congrats for your interaction management!
I love perfect matches. Its beautiful
i think if an infp wants a long term relationship they should marry an estj or an estp
because from personal experience infp and enfj "the most compatible for them" are just for short terms because at first you will feel like you are really connected with each other but as time pass and infp will get burned out by an enfj always being so emotional and that's when problems arise even if the two talk about it at the end it will just be over and over again but an infp can get stuck at this sick relationship, as the enfj will win them over and over again.
@@aoikumina I wouldn't stand estj's insensibility for just any minutes. Maybe estp are more easy to deal with.
I am an INFP and my older sister is ESTJ. We fought a lot when we were kids cause everything i did in her eyes were always wrong, and i couldn't understand what she wanted most of the time. Now that we are more mature as adults, i think we got drastically closer that expected. Somehow we just developed respect for each other's differences, knowing when to use our strengths and when to trust the other to use their strengths. She's the organized go-getter, the one who leads and plans. Meanwhile i'm the laid back one who's flexible enough to participate in her plans and follow her lead. She can get panicked when things don't go her way or when she can't do things she wanted to do, and i'm the one who often say, "it's okay, don't panic. As long as we're calm, we'll be able to think of a way to get through this.". I think it also kinda helps that we have a few similar interests and share some similar thoughts about things. I'm glad she's comfortable enough to share her feelings and thoughts to me. She sometimes ask me about things other people in her life do that she just doesn't understand, and i help unpack the stories and give possible reasons and motives of why people do things they do.
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Agh! They like me. Period! lol :-)
as long as they hang in there,it's gonna be a bumpy ride but , it'll be fun to discover we are all likeable.
I’m an ENFP who has mostly dated INFPs and INFJs. Although I tend to find it a bit easier to see where INFPs are coming from with stuff, I would say I feel just as compatible or even more compatible with INFJs in general. I feel like there is a lot I can learn from them, and I just generally feel a strong connection with them, find them easy to talk to, and somehow always find my way to them.
exactly the same here
i couldn't agree more
I’m also an ENFP, through and through… ever since I’ve been tested for the first time (longer than 15 years ago), it never changed. Since everything I’ve read/watched about ENFP traits (even the “mean” ones), they always described me on point. I think the multiple stacking method makes some sense; my INFP partner and I have been together for 20 years; we couldn’t be more different from each other, mostly viewed from the outside world. But we do share the same core values, which I think is the building block for having a good relationship. Nonetheless, that could also happen with any other personality type. I was raised by both INTJ parents and my best friend is an INTJ, although other very good friends are also ENFPs (I love them!). My daughter is an INFJ and she’s a puzzle for me; it took another INFJ person to teach me how an INFJ thinks/functions, and all immediately made perfect sense. That doesn’t mean we still don’t have any struggles, but maybe it’s more like a mother/daughter relationship thing…
@@brledoux7989 intj and enfp and infj is perfect pairings
I'm an Enfp who's dating an infj and I totally agree 100%
I am an INFP with an ENFJ mother, we get along quite well and have an easy time communicating. But its noticable in our attitudes how different we are. We act really diferently
INFJ here currently dating an ENTP. I believe he is the best match for me so far, we get along great and even when we (rarely) argue it's always somewhat pleasant in the end, never so bad we don't talk for days or yell during the conversation, which to me would be terrible, we always talk it out peacefully until we find common ground. We understand each other on a deep level, have great conversations, our needs are always fulfilled and we're just perfect together. I've never been so in love before.
Me too :) It’s really wonderful.
I need to find myself a ENTP partner then 😅😭
I concur!
entp are good for infj's but infj's Ruin us. entp's stay away. they will drain you till you have no more to give and accuse you of abuse if u caint give no more
intj thou.....they give back the love. but entp have to be the ones keeping an eye that both partners have there feelings met. otherwise they get eaten up by "unlogical" emotions. because no one validates them
@@amaterasu5001 in all of my relationships so far I have always been the one that was drained, i'm infj. So I don't think it's generally true that infjs are draining people. You also would have to differentiate if the infj you had a relation with were fully matured or not yet. I can only speak from my experiences so far and I can say I don't know any entps personally
INFJ here, I knew 4 ENTP's and coincidentally, all of them became my crushes. I don't know but I admire them a lot, especially the way how they share their ideas to you.
If I didn't know Frank James type, I would think he was an ENTP.
INFJ here and my brother is actually an ENTP.
@@bellamarie6509 for me He's an ENTP
@@bellamarie6509 actually some people also thought I'm an ENTP
Same, we have enough similar functions to understand each other well but different enough to be curious
He’s like the teacher we needed in school
This makes a lot sense. Thanks for explaining this topic.
I think compatibility just comes down to which personality traits you value most, which ones will help you grow, and which types you’re surrounded by growing up. That’s going to be different for every person.
For instance, I’m an INFJ with ENFP and ENTP best friends. But I could never date their type - I need someone introverted, highly empathetic, non argumentative, and capable of helping me develop my Se / keeping me grounded. Which is why I’ve been dating my ISFP for almost four years. This is also influenced by me being raised by an INFP and an ISFJ.
Nice
Introverted: Check
Highly empathetic: to an annoying degree...
Non argumentative: I'm very nonconfrontational
Capable of helping me develop my Se: I can help!
IE- keeping me grounded: oh. As an INFP umm nah, I don't have that ability.
For some reason this cracked me up 😂
Well said. You took the thoughts out of my 🧠:)
@@mikayladouglas2503 My mom (my bestie) and one of my other close friends are INFPs! I love you guys!😂❤️ For me, if just helps having someone who can kick me out of my head and look at things from a more practical angle. Especially when it comes to big life decisions and problem solving. But I can definitely see why so many INFJ-INFP relationships thrive ❤️
I agree with your final statement, but I think it's mostly valid for ExxP and IxxJ, who are more balanced judgers. An INFP and an ENTJ may both have Fi and Te but they are in the exact opposite position, so I think that could generate conflict (maybe they will complete each other, but I think it's more likely for ExxP and IxxJ).
Exactly! I’m an INTP and ENFJs drive me insane like no other type can. I’m constantly fighting with the ENFJs in my life because our values are just too opposed. I couldn’t imagine dating an ENFJ.
I was just about to comment this, but you beat me too it lol! The only thing I wanted to add though is that there might be more misunderstanding between INFP's and ENFJ's, which could lead to a lot of conflict, but I think INFP's and ENTJ's would stress each other out a lot more because both of them tend to be over-the-top in the area that stresses the other out the most.
Interesting. I’ve been able to observe an INFP/ENTJ relationship and, honestly, it works perfectly. The people I know both have the same goals and they work together to achieve them. They’re a great team.
I was thinking of that too. Glad I'm not one of those ExxJ/IxxP types for this reason lol.
As an INFP I would never want to be in a relationship with an ENTJ, not that there is anything objectively wrong with the type, I don't even dislike them at all, my boss is one and he and I work great together on the job. That said, although I am very orderly and highly motivated in my job I am a lazy, home-body, potato on my own time, I would drive an extroverted type nuts, especially an ExxJ, and visa-versa.
I'm dating an INTP and that is, IMO, the golden pairing. Ti and Fi aren't all that different and since we have both developed our respective 4th functions decently well Ti-Fe and Fi-Te communicate nicely, and our middle functions are the same. So we have lots of overlapping similarities but just the FvsT difference adds some nice spice in the mix.
Another great educational video 🙌🏻
I feel like what can also cause conflict is sharing a function in the dominant stack with someone but having it at different positions. It’s like “I can understand your function, but you’re using it wrong” 😄
I'm going to have to watch one of Frank's videos again on the functions, I am so confused. The shadow thing I didn't know was 'a thing' and I'm so glad Frank nixed that theory, whew! As always you just make me smile, laugh and feel good FJ. Loved your live Saturday. I'm so happy for you both ❤️
Don't be glad Frank nixed the theory. It's a great theory, and just because he doesn't believe in it doesn't mean you shouldn't. I love Frank, but I do disagree with him on this one because I can actively see the way my blind Te works. Interestingly, this can be shown by function tests. Online MBTI tests such as Sakinorva show for me at least that my Te is the weakest, and it's my seventh function. It all makes perfect sense to me, and it might to you too if you give it a chance.
P.S: I don't really recommend online tests in general, but they do show this very interesting fact.
@@milesyeet181 I took the Sakinorva test as well and got INFP. Yet, my Te only scored 8 points, while everything else was 24-35. It's hard to know if Te is so low because its my inferior and I just naturally want to reject it, so it scores low, or if I'm a INFJ and it's actually my trickster.
My Fi/Fe were my highest, followed Ne/Si/Ni all being close in the middle. Just goes to show that a test can still give mixed results. You need to explore it more deeply on your own.
And yes, I also agree that the shadow functions exist. Our brains are too complex to have it limited to just 4 functions.
You both???!! Hes getting married?!
@@benjaminfast5496 Oh yeah I should have clarified! My inferior was the lowest and then my Te was the lowest. I didn't want to admit it, but my Se point scored as 4.
4 for Se is a little embarrassing, I promise I go outside sometimes. But, it's true, the tests are super weird because they can never accurately know a person. People that are good at typing are so much better than tests, and I'm happy that you agree with me on shadow functions.
@@milesyeet181 Oh, that's really interesting! Because I've been feeling like I'm an INFP for a while, and I hold little to no value to Te, except when it makes sense (like signally before changing lanes while driving, because in failing to follow that rule could result in an accident, and potentially injuries.) However, what is SO urgent that I can't go over my coffee break time for 1 or 2 minutes. Is the world going to end?
That's interesting that your inferior scored the lowest as well, even above the other shadow functions (which do exist, lol.) It just goes to show that we are cognitive of what we value and reject, and though we may see how our inferior function plays a role in our lives, we despise it and therefore don't want to associate ourselves to it on tests.
I love talking about this stuff, so thanks for the reply. Cheers!
I like the new approach, FJ! Serious and clear, but still fun!
I agree with you. I keep seeing people calling opposite types “golden pairs” and that doesn’t make any sense to me. As an ISTP, my “golden pair” is supposed to be an ESTJ but from my personal experience they, together with ENTJs, are the types I get along the least. The fact that we don’t have any functions in common makes our ways of navigating life very different. They want to organize things and be productive while I just want to be chill and go with the flow. They’re usually bossy and constantly try to impose their opinions on others while, even tho I don’t always speak up, I’m very strong opinionated and hate being told how to think. They treat rules as sacred entities and get really defensive over them while I only follow what makes sense to me and if I spend a day without questioning things I die. There’s just so much space for conflict, theoretically speaking a relationship with them would be a nightmare.
I never understood it either. Every time that I've hung out with an ESTJ all I've wanted to do was bang their head with a hammer. How the hell am I supposed to be in a romantic relationship with them?
As an INFJ, I've been considering compatible types and curious about ISTP....I am also individuated thinker and self-driver who questions everything, just have high feeling sense connection and empathy....how is the FE for you as an ISTP? We have same functions just arranged differently! I love my Se, but it overwhelms me too....been developing my Se for healthy balance with my Ni.
Well at the end everything depends on the individual I guess. I have an ISTP and ESTJ friend in my circle and they get along very well. The ISTP happily relies on the ESTJs abilities when they are together.
Touché, the way ESTJ have to take control of and judge literally everything in their lives just piss me off so bad
My mom (ESTJ): EVERYTHING matters
Me(ISTP): NOTHING matters
@@daydreamer_asmr I'd say my Fe is OK, I'm trying to improve but it's still uncomfortable and draining everytime I have to use it. Sometimes I end up being unintentionally rude or cold with people I want to get closer and I can't help being blunt in social exchanges. I have a lot of empathy and I'm really understanding but since I feel awkward expressing it people just think i don't care...
My sister is an INFJ too! our personalities and behaviors are very different but we understand eachother well I think
Awesome. Plus, as a non native english speaker, I love how you use and provide the definition of uncommon words. Thanks!
Great video! I'm an INFJ (I think) and the type I'm most naturally drawn to is definitely an ENTP. One of my best friends in college was an ENTP (based on my typing of her) and my son is an ENTP and we mesh really well both with conversation and senses of humor. I could see how making decisions with him is really easy as well.
I love my INFP daughter as well and she's also great fun, but that dominant Fi and apparent total lack of a thinking function can get exhausting and frustrating to me after a while :)
Pretty sure my husband is an ESTJ and his Te comes in very handy but we think extremely differently and approach problems in completely different ways. The key there is just to respect the other person and give them space for their brain to work their way and we both have that so it still works.
What a couple! I'd never have the guts to. Keep thriving!
Thank you! I've been looking for this for ages!
YES, I've been waiting for this!! 😀
thank you for this video! the shadow personalities is what has confused me for the longest time
i missed your educational videos haha it's been a while
The way you explain is SOO GOOD!
Cool Frank, INFJs are my shadow types, must be why I totally get your humor and especially love when you laugh at yourself 🤣 - Your understanding ENFP subscriber
As others have mentioned, we all use all of the functions, and acknowledging that only makes the theory more realistic, not less. People are complex, and no, not everything a given person ever does can be explained solely by four functions. Insisting on viewing everything people do solely through the lens of a four-function stack leads to a lot of misunderstandings and actually contributes a lot to mistyping, as people not only use the 'shadow functions' but can actually be very good with some of them! And people will actually mistype people based on seeing them use one of their shadow functions well! I've seen it happen many times.
Sure you may be able to use all the functions, but wouldn’t the Beebe Stack be more limiting? It even has a function that is the ‘blindspot’ and the ‘demon’. This might be because I’m more of a Jungian psychological types fan, but feeling is still feeling, intuition is still intuition, sensing is still sensing, and thinking is still thinking. I believe that having very broad types is good (functions (f/t/s/n) without clear attitudes (e/i) can exist), even Jung said that every individual is an exception. Now you are free to not agree with me, you may think that Jung is too old, and that’s okay, we can agree to have different opinions, I just want to show you another option incase you might like it. I think that Beebe is a cool guy and he has researched the theory a lot
@@The_Rusalka I prefer Cognitive Personality Theory myself, which is actually the least 'limiting' out of all these systems. It's not about having more limitations, it's about having more nuance and more recognition of people's complexity and ability to use functions in ways that go beyond the four-function stack ascribed to any given type. There's actually more flexibility, fewer limitations, and IMO just an overall more true-to-life portrayal of how people really operate here.
I do not use Fi and my Fe is very shy. I cannot be mad on a person for longer than 3 days, Ti will find any excuse of hating me. I do not value Se, I could use it when drunk, but Se and Ne are no different to me (do first, think later).
Love the outro. Getting more simple each time.
Yay!! I have been so curious about the shadow functions, and this helps break down their overall logic so much! :) Thank you for your so clear, fun & informative educational videos!! They rock! :) 🙏
Great vid!!! I’ve been wondering about how this works and I love that even after having been very deeply involved in MBTI for a while now I can still learn new things 😊
Great video Frank, I would just add that I'm a INFJ and my husband is a ESTP and he's my best friend in the entire world, we understand each other to the core, in fact I don't think I've ever had anyone else including my parents and siblings who have understood me as deeply as my ESTP husband does, I know we have helped each other strengthen our 4th function since I need help with my SE and he needs help with his NI and it's the other ones top function so it can work out wonderfully with your shadow or duel type, it just takes a lot of communication, understanding and of course love with any type, we just celebrated our 11th wedding anniversary and have been together for 13 years and I can say we are both better people for being together 😊 thank you for all of your videos. Great job.
I am an intj and am recently starting to behave like an entp so this really helped me figure things out
This is a lot of info to take in. Thanks for explaining everything!
I found this one quite interesting and enlightening. Thanks Frank!
Now make a sketch of the 16P interacting with their shadow types, might be interesting to watch.
I was just asking myself about the "shadow functions" this week, this video explains a lot, but I think that I have to watch it more times to get it all, just like the video about the cognitive functions...
It's easier than you might think especially if you're intuitive (good at finding patterns) for example you see someone focusing on getting work done with not much regard for values and feelings they're probably either estj or entj cause they have dom Te and inf Fi you just need to learn what each function does. And then train on working out what each type's function stack by their four letter which was taught in the video about cognitive functions. Do that for a while and you'll start seeing them being used around you (or in FJ 16 personality sketches)
Very fascinating, thanks for your insights and personal opinions!
Wow! I'm INTJ and my sister is ENTP. It makes so much sense why we get along so well!
Exactly the same here! I'm an INTJ and my sister an ENTP. I consider her my best friend!
@@Blublex except when she's stressed - I hate her inferior Si 😂
Ha! ENTP here with a 14 year old INTJ son. We seriously are best friends (yes, even though I am his mother) because we get along SO WELL and really understand each other (even in our moments of "wtf?? I just don't get you!!".
Yes, my 2 sons are INTJ and ENTP and have always gotten along well, like peas and carrots LoL
My daughters are INFJ and ENFP. They are best friends
Very interesting. I'm an INFJ and my partner is an ENFP. We are similar in many ways and usually communicate well but sometimes there's little conflict and he gets on my nerves. 😅 Love your videos Frank!
as an ENFP, I love the conflicts that I had with INFJ. Really hard to describe. The conflict felt so irritating but also feels like it's happening because the connection is so deep not because the INFJs are annoying.
Same, Im an INFJ and my partner is ENFP. He's so fun I love it but at the same time he's really really annoying 😂 but I get annoyed quickly so can't blame him totally. But I love him to death!
HEY FJ!!! You should start doing sketches on “Shadow” types. It could be about the dynamic/relationship between the two types within. 🤪
He did do this one :) it's one where the two types (main vs shadow) interact lol. Pretty funny honestly
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"The 16 personalities interacting with their shadow type"
I agree. I think that would make a great sketch.
I suggested this weeks back. I second this!
I always love these videos man . And Congrats on one million subscribers
back then i don't watch your informative videos because i thought it would be difficult to understand but you actually explain it well and it's easy to digest so yeah thank you i'd probably watch more infomative videos from now
thanks!
A timid INFP here who finally decided to post something😅. Great video FJ, very intriguing! I'd be interested to hear some answers to some questions I've been thinking about recently. How does being an ambivert affect personality and specifically the cognitive functions (I get ambiverts aren't really a MBTI thing, but still)? Can personality change over time due to experience, trauma, etc (especially with extrovert/introvert)? And do certain mental or medical conditions alter personality (Depression, anxiety, autism, etc)? Thanks for the videos and congratulations on a million subscribers!
Hii
I'm an INFP and I've had the same questions!!
Woah. I too have the same questions. I'm also thinking about why I'm having trouble guessing the MBTI types of 2 of my friends. The confusion is whether they are S/N type. They seem to have both T and F too. Maybe I need to understand the cognitive functions better so that I'll be able to place them under a particular type.
Social introversion/extroversion is likely based on a persons sensitivity to outside impulses. It's a scale, where you can be an ambivert if you're closer to the middle. However the cognitive functions in your stack are not on a scale, they are rigid, and also are not connected to the social extroversion. Despite this, it seems there is a correlation between the two: The less extroverted you are the more likely you'll prefer an introverted function as the dominant and vica versa. I believe social extroversion has an effect in this sense on developing one's function preferences, after all, if you prefer being alone, you're more likely spend time introspecting, then others who like to spend more time with people and being in situations with more outside stimuli.
It's also worth to note that social anxiety plays a role in a persons self-assessment about their introversion. An extroverted person (usually when younger) can feel like they are an introvert for having anxiety from negative outside forces. More than likely this phase will pass after some years and they'll find their true selves.
The functions in your stack are your preferences, they describe how you like to think, what you value the most in decision-making and processing facts/ideas. Everyone has every function, but it differs how comfortable they are with each. If you are using a function in one direction, say the feeling function introvertedly (Fi), then you won't use feeling in the extroverted direction, because they are filling the same role just in different ways. It's like if there are two approaches to a task, and you are comfortable with one, then you won't want to use the other, just if really necessary. Other functions in your stack are filling different roles, so in the end, you'll have to use (and learn to use) all 4 of them to live as a functional person. Not using shadow functions likely won't cause you troubles, on the other hand, not using the lower functions in your stack will. Still, it's worth to recognise the shadow functions to understand people who might use them and accept their way of thinking.
Since people's relationship with the functions is preference-based, and considering those preferences have been developing since birth, it's very unlikely that someone's function stack will change after growing up. However, yes, if you experience something life-changing (usually negative), like a really heavy trauma or similar things that mess with your brain permanently, then it's not surprising if your personality changes with it.
These are my thoughts on this, I hope it helped.
I'm an ENTP my wife of almost 20 years is an INTJ. We have had our 'battles'...lol...but we are perfect for one another. Opposites seem to attract, and we are opposite but we complete each other. Love that woman!
You go boss 🙏💯
I've been waiting for a loooooong time for this video. Big thank Mr. Frank.
Polar Functions for Each Type:
ESTJ/ESFJ: Ni
ENTJ/ENFJ: Si
ESTP/ENTP: Fi
ESFP/ENFP: Ti
ISTJ/INTJ: Fe
ISFJ/INFJ: Te
ISTP/ISFP: Ne
INTP/INFP: Se
Isn't the ENTJ an INTP?
@@TheAdhdGardener Yes, INTP is the shadow type of ENTJ, but that's not what this comment is about. Each type is only paired up based on their common polar function and nothing else.
As an ENFJ, thank you for explaining this in my function!😊
The way you break it down makes so much sense! while my ENFP husband and I, the INFJ don't always "get" each other, the love is always there. It takes so much effort, but it's worth it to be with each other.
I was waiting for this!!!
Such a nice fellow explaining some thing that is not common because we requested it of him.
Then explains to us why this is so.👏👏👏👏👏
The moment I stepped into shadow functions theory I would never come back to "only 4 functions", cause 8-function models explain much more than MBTI to me. Although I respect that FJ wants to keep things simpler and he enjoys it here, but for me, after going that deep, simpler models seem too shallow, I can't help it. In my opinion, our Dom-Inf dynamic is causing most problems for ourselves and our personal life, but shadow functions are what cause us most problems with other people, and I find it worth to study them at least for that matter. ;)
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I think it is important to keep the shadow because otherwise it implies that a type has only one orientation of a function which doesn't make sense especially considering the fact that reality conditions us to use all functions all the time which points towards us having not only one orientation but both. The difference then remains only in terms of strength and accessibility which makes the shadow functions to make sense in that they are harder to access and weaker because of the lack of ability to access them consciously but only when special situations are present in reality. In that way the shadow functions represent a less accessible side of the self that's not entirely in one's control but can became more conscious over time which is the point of why they are the shadow in the first place. Because they are kept unconscious and they are not recognized in order to became conscious like the domminant stack.
The domminant stack, on the other hand, represents only a small side of us which is our perception of ourselves or the ego. In that way it is erroneous to look at a type only in terms of their front cover that they project which is the ego, because the back part which is the shadow, is also part of them and can't be separated from the individual and the type. And as such, they are both important when we are talking about a type as they are part of it.
Without the shadow functions, there is no sense of balance - nothing on the other end of the teeter totter.
I'm an INFP, and there is no doubt that I'm an Fi dom, but my shadow Fe is definitely existant. I don't use it to make my decisions, but I use it to understand other people's decisions. The weaker my conscious functions, the less I can even conceptulize the corresponding shadow function though.
I almost wonder if FJ is reacting to how woo-woo this level of teaching can get. I’m with you that I clearly have the ability to experience life on all these functions in both directions, but I’m not sure whether that’s what he’s denying.
There have been too many times where I’m utterly stumped trying to make sense of another person’s experience no matter how much I want to understand them for me to fully disagree with him. If I could process life their way in my unconscious, wouldn’t I have an easier time grasping what makes them tick?
I wasn’t even surprised to learn I had chosen a romantic partner who has the same cognitive orientation axis, they’re just in radically different alignment (INTJ/ISFP)
Thank you!
Eh I think it's probably better to think of these functions as less concrete blocks and more of a spectrum. To be one type or another you exist further down one side of each spectrum, but in reality it's still a spectrum.
Also contrary to what MBTI people will tell you I believe it's generally possible to change your position on those spectra. Not a full swing from say Ni to Ne, but if you consider the position on the spectrum you are at a given time your thoughts may be 90% Ni and 10% Ne, but after self reflection and deliberate action you may be 85% Ni and 15% Ne or so on. The extent of the possible change is probably limited but it is possible to become more aware of the otherside of the conversation and become more temperate an individual.
Thank you so much professor Frank 😊. It was always so difficult to watch videos around shadow of an mbti type before 😅
The delivery, jokes, and editing on these videos kills me xD anyway i actually got up to find a video on the topic and by sheer coincidence you uploaded this. thanks for another great vid FJ
Thank you so much for explaining this! The shadow types have always confused me.
If I recall correctly, in your romantic compatability video you said that the ideal pairings would share the first two letters and have opposite last two letters. In this video though, you implied that ideal pairings also have differing I/E. Is that your current stance? Which one do you prefer?
My rule of thumb is keep the second letter the same and flip everything else.
eg. ISTP is more compatible with ESFJ.
edit: I accidentally deleted this comment, so this is a copy of the original.
@@blujay547 Misread your comment, but it does check out. That would make ENFP and INTJ well compatible, which in my experience rings quite true.
@@Syrxen I agree. I’m an ENFP and I get along well (and understand) TeNi/NiTe, but I struggle with high Fe because high Fe puts me on guard.
You are correct that I said something along the lines of the most important thing is to flip the last 2 letters. The first two letters are less important. I probably just kept the I/E flip in this video as a way of showing how a slight modification of the Inverse Type makes for a better match--not necessarily the "best"!
@@FrankJames Thank you so much!
I've been thinking about this a lot !! 😊
Okayyy so i misunderstood the title nevermind :D
Damn FJ that was AWESOME!
Your eyes and shirt match in color I love it and it was just funny when you stated your disbelief(?) in the shadow functions and said 'because you asked for it' 😆 you're really brave for doing so.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and takes about these things Frank. I LOVE the editing in this vid, with the sound effects and everything. It's also been a while since I've watched your vids, I enjoyed it.
Your emails are very helpful and insightful too. Thank you 💕
With your video, I actually think it's good to keep shadow fonctions in mind.
We probably use all fonctions at some points, some a lot more than others.
When I've realized INFP's "7th fonction" was Se, I thought it would totally make sense. I'm a pro when it comes to wasting my time.
But I don't really care about compatibility. Just find someone who loves you as much as you love them, date, marry, and start family if you want and you're happy with each other, then everything's fine.
Also, what is this outro ?? I love it.
It's funny because I'm an INFJ and my sister is an ENFP, and we also are opposites when it comes to astrology too. And when it comes to terms of romantic compatibility about every function, when you talked 'bout the hardships of thinking vs. feeling I remembered some people (INTJs) I liked because of the way we could talk about the world and a whole other bunch of things, it was really mind blowing, but when the talk was about feelings over a situation and those things, there was always a fight/misunderstanding because of the feeling and thinking morals we had, hahah.
I love this, thanks for explaining because I’d never heard of it before! Also could you do a “if the sixteen personalities were poor/homeless” video? I’d like to see that
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I'm dating an ISTJ and I don't think we've even had an argument yet. We will eventually since it happens to everyone, but I think we get along really well -INFJ
I like how you explain this, and I totally agree with the last part, but I disagree that it isn't helpful for personal development; that might have something to do with age though.
My understanding is the 7th function is the weakest function because it is opposite of the child function (3rd). If you think about it, if you are using the 3rd function like a child, it's unlikely you can do anything with the 7th, or even know it's there.
I'm an INFP and I am finding as I get older the 4th function, although inferior to the 1st, is becoming way more accessible than it was in my 20's and 30's. With it (because thinking is thinking) the cold hard logic of Ti shows up in extremely stressful situations as logically dissecting all my Fi beliefs- I sort of deconstruct myself (demon Ti).
Ti has turned out to be even a harsher critic than Te ever was, but with it, I've gained clarity on my beliefs.
Just my take on this.
It's the weakest function because it's opposed by both of the middle functions at once. Se is in a sense 'the opposite' of Si and also 'the opposite' of Ne, the extroverted function the INFP most prefers to use.
I think it's also the weakest because it's the opposite "class" as your dominate function (i.e. If you use a dominate judging function, you're 7th function would be a perceiving function). On top of this, it's the opposite to you're preferred method of judging/percieving (so ENFJ's normally prefer intuition for percieving, but their 7th function is Si). Furthermore, it's also the opposite direction as your dominate (i.e. introverted vs extraverted). So, if you add all that up, you get a whole mess of confusion lol
@@multitudesreplyaccount3163 that makes sense
ISTJ: every crucial turning point in my life was about NI, I think "transformative" is truly THE word for the 8th function.
That makes a lot of sense, Miriam. I would never tell someone to stop using something they have found helpful!
Love the video, and the further explanation of the ideas in the comments. You the man
This is a great video with such an informative comment section!
I think this is a really interesting look at it, but honestly as an INTJ nearly all of my best friends have been ENTPs and some of the worst experiences I've had with people have been ENFPs. Thinking plays a MASSIVE role in how I interact with the world and I REALLY strongly with connecting to and Feeling types at all, and even when I can it's very exhausting and forced and generally not something I want to do all of the time, meaning it's pretty off the table in a relationship. With my shadow type, the relationship feels far more like an actually enjoyable experience because while we have different perspectives on things, our decisions follow the same sort of path while still be interesting since we're approaching the path in opposite ways.
I actually think the shadow types are quite important because just as the traits/skills that we do have define us, the traits/skills which we lack define us even further.
The real life example I can provide is how my friend and I have ne as our blindspot and we both struggle with doubts and tend to have more black and white logical/emotional conclusions
Again this can be defined by both of us having se as our second function, but it can also be -in my opinion- more accurately defined by our lack of ne.
I get your point though, the lack of ne is due to having se. This conclusion however leads to some actions being traced back to se even though they would be more accurately described as the lack of ne.
I hope I made sense, I did some repetition just in case my point didn't get across.
Congrats on 1 million!
Woaaah u finally did it 😍
ENTP here. I have an ISTP husband, an INTJ teenage son, a preteen ESFJ daughter, and a preteen ENTP mini-me daughter (which is HILARIOUS, btw). I get along the BEST, friendship wise, with my INTJ son and clash the most with my ESFJ daughter. Granted, it's all anecdotal, but it's super interesting to observe and analyze. We also are all adhd/autistic. THAT has been fun: seeing how neurodivergence plays out with cognitive functions. Let me know if you ever want to do a video on that; I've got tons of insight.
I'm an Intj with adhd/autism.
And your idea is brilliant.
I'm ENTJ and my twin sister is INFP...(we get along most of the time, but our arguments are pretty strong lmao) Also 2/4 of our friends are also INFP
Thats interesting. -ENTJ
Ooh nice, a fellow twin! Although we are not shadow pairs, I am an infp (I think?) with a twin brother who is an isfp. Our Fi’s clash sometimes- which can be annoying- but other than that it’s great. We’re both not afraid to be weird around each other and often laugh and joke around, but sometimes it’s hard to have an in-depth conversation with him because he tends to zone out and get bored, lol. As a sensor he prefers more concrete topics. But hey, I wouldn’t trade him for the world
I agree with this!!! Great explanation!!
9:16 ENTP and INFJ Makes Even More Sense Now That You Broke It Down Like That. Great Show And Contrat’z On The Bazillionth Subscriber And Thank You For Bringing MBTI To The World.
ISTP with ISTJ other half. I think the inverse type for thinking feeling to your other half is not a great issue if you are compatible in other ways, if fact mixed types make for a complimentary stack of ways to deal with issues, the trick is to accept that each person has their strengths and weaknesses.
For ISTP/ISTJ pairings then we have the advantages of
1) Both wanting space and time to be ourselves.
2) Not being party animals, but enjoying quality time with small groups of friends.
3) Both fairly ascetic in our taste for possessions. Neither of us are big spenders.
4) Both logical thinkers
5) She brings stability and consistency to the home, I bring the ability to deal with unusual situations.
6) We both like the peace of the great outdoors, me to experience the sensations, her to find inner calm.
7) She is great at remembering things, I'm better at proposing new things to try.
8) We can both organise well once we understand the common goal.
9) We can both be very patient to achieve a long term goal.
Weaknesses are:
1) It took me time to learn to listen and not jump in with help. I still act before thinking sometimes and it irritates her.
2) Neither of us are driven to improve the other, or willingly accept external help.
3) We are not driven to start new things, possibly through not wanting to voice our desires. (but work really well together when we finally get a project rolling).
4) I will say something that I observed (without judgement), she takes that to be judgement (from me) on whether the observation is good or bad. As she is judgement driven in communication and I am fact driven, it causes confusion sometimes.
Overall it's a very comfortable pairing to be in and has worked for over 25 years so far.
ISTP/ISTJ isn’t inverse type tho😂😂
@@almondtofu2632 Watch the video again. Frank says that Te types will struggle to be compatible with Ti types, more so if one is Se and the other Si. I'm not convinced by that at all and I think that you have to look at the resultant behaviours of the complete stack to see where compatibility lies, not at individual components.
Wow ISTP and ISTJ sounds like such a good pairing
I understand cognitive functions the way Jung did. So (personally) I don’t use systems such as MBTI because those are heck of a mess that makes little to no sense. I don’t number or label functions. I usually put the 4 ones in a horizontal line and then group 1 and 3 together and 2 and 4. Because that’s the pair one needs to understand - the parts we internalize and the parts we externalize. In my case, Ni and Ti are how I process informations internally and how I get my own sense on inner identity. Fe and Se give me purpose and focus my attention on people and getting things done for others. And I have been thinking about the 8 functions. So far, I have noticed that any function benefits Ni while tends to make the job difficult for Se. The 7th function is the one I oppose. Following authority blindly is not my thing. Doubting and challenging systems in order to make them work better for people is something I tend to do.
Thank you for the great explanation of the shadow functions. I had always failed to understand them before. I STILL don't understand them, but it's ok now. I understand that 16-type shortcuts to compatibility are actually the longest way around and not all that smart a basis for decisions... but your videos make the problem entertaining.
You finally bring this topic up 😅
Fun Class. I like your hair. I'm confused already since the marker eraser board.But I stay and you know why. The sweet messy real hair . And your voice. Questions later, teacher. After I replay. Thanks Frank.
What's interesting about your last point is that the classic trope of dynamic duo in fiction usually follows that rule (of course, some more loosely than others). For example, the "Brain and Heart" duo is usually an INTJ and an ENFP.
That's my husband and I. He's the brain. I'm the heart. We just discovered I'm ENFP about a week ago. We've known he is INTJ for a while. I was mistyped as ESFJ due to being forced by my parents to use thinking and organizational skills most frequently. They valued good grades and a well paying career path for me. Once they saw my aptitude scores on 3rd grade standardized testing, anything less than straight As was not acceptable.
It was very difficult for me to learn how to develop Si and lean into my Te, while also subduing my natural inclination toward Ne. But, I had no choice.
The result is that I'm 37 and finally figuring out who I really am. I've been working on that since 19, when I left for college and decided to figure out what path in life was right for me. Now that I'm figuring it out, I'm not even sure how to use my dominant function and auxiliary function in an intentional way that will lead to success.
I for certain have had Ne and Fi on autopilot in all non-work related environments. However, as soon as it's time to focus on anything that needs a real world outcome, those are shut down and Te takes over. Meanwhile, Si is doing everything possible using lists, schedules, short term memory until a task is accomplished, all so it can ensure I'm not forgetting something important.
Meanwhile, I just want to explore the world, stand at the ocean and breathe in that sea air, sit and have coffee and deep conversations with those I care about, and play philosophical word games with my INTJ. Oh! And I want to actually finish writing the book I started writing a few years ago.
Anyway, somehow my INTJ husband and I found each other without knowing I am ENFP. We love word games and silly theories, and he loves my bubbly side when it comes out. I love his sweet, protective nature that has contingency upon contingency of how to keep us safe if something went sideways. I also love watching how his mind processes things. Plus, regardless of what anyone thinks about INTJs... they do have a heart. They only show it to those in their inner circle. I love that my INTJ trusts me with his heart... even if my Ne and Fi sometimes cause me to jump the gun and go overboard with my response to something I wrongly concluded. I'm working on that.
I was brought joy when you used my personality type as the example at the beginning
and devastated when you made the real example something else
Omg I’m an infj dating an entp lol it was so weird to hear you explain compatibility at the end 😂 it was also nice to hear you say the shadow functions weren’t worth thinking about, bc about halfway through the video I was starting to think this was sounding like astrology (which I personally don’t believe in) bc of how much was going on that didn’t really make a lot of sense lol
i used to be INFJ until recently, a lot of things happened in my life and im like a completely different person. i recently took the test again and apparently im an ENFP! i turned into my shadow type i guess? 😂
Or rather, you were an ENFP all along but you were forced to predominantly use your shadow functions in a stressful environment? In any case interesting
Well yeah I was used to be info but due to some changes I turned to enfj and then to enfp
@@Four-24Jake very interesting observation, i also have had a past with did and such so it might be partly that as well
I seem to fluctuate between entp and intp. It's a little strange really. I guess it's because I'm an ambivert? That's the only thing I can guess currently
Funny thing is I'm an INFP and my best friend is an ENFJ. Couldn't imagine dating him 😂
I'm an ENFJ and one of my best friends is INFP. I love her dearly but we think and feel so differently on everything that I just don't understand her...and honestly, I don't think she understands me. But we are still good friends.
@@eynta2 How do you think you feel differently? In my case I feel like I care about/have emotions about everything and my best friend doesn't show any emotion other than happy-go-lucky 😩
@@bethrivera867 she is very emotional too. She's stuck in a job that she doesn't like. They take advantage of her. They bully her. I don't know how to help her. My natural personality type is to give advice. Sadly I feel like that's all I do. Advise her all the time. But nothing changes. She won't follow the advice (which is okay...it's her choice)..but then I don't know what to tell her when she complains about her situation.
I want to be supportive. But I feel like both of us are frustrated. 😅
I’m so glad someone finally said this
I appreciate you exploring this to give people a heads up on what's out there and really appreciate not going so rigid with the 8 functions since I think even though some of the math may check out ignoring some nitpicks, I think it's setting people up for a lot of neuroticism trying to live up to some rigid structure, and while neuroticism is helpful for humor (Seinfeld...top 3 tv show besides Twilight Zone and the Simpsons), I don't think that's the kind of neuroticism that's going to be helpful and it's just setting people up for a fatalistic mindset where they might unintentionally ground too much of their identity in living up to a type.
However, I disagree with not taking all the functions into account; it's just that we'll use them when we use them. If we're typing someone, I think the simplicity of questioning if they prefer introversion or extroversion? Do they prefer sensing or intuition? Do they prefer feeling or thinking judgments? Are they a perceiver or judger? is helpful but then if we're typing someone we're close to we're going to see all the functions...although, at that point, does type matter since wouldn't the purpose of using type be to develop relationships...we already got the relationship!
I was kinda confused by this one because of your previous Iceberg video...*sniff* I thought between that video and the 90s video we were Nsync, Frank. *sniff* I...I...I gotta go....*runs away crying*...*spots someone seeing me crying* *says it's just allergies*....and now...still writing to you. haha
Getting so rigid with the 8 functions is what gets me going "this is fake" where it starts kinda like how you brought up in the Iceberg video having fun nerding out over inconsistencies like in a pop culture franchise such as Star Wars fans where it can be fun theorizing over lore and then gaining insight over views of people and morality through discussing characters and themes but then it can get so far where it goes from nerding out over a big budget toy advertisement escapism to trying to live up to a fan created Jedi code.
A reason I really appreciate your skits is because I think they're accurate in illustrating the types and then provide a fun icebreaker being such funny entertainment. Although, I think it's difficult to illustrate the ENFP type compared to the INFJ type, even though, conceptually, I think they are the most similar but with the inverse attitudes with INFJs conceptually are going to be focusing toward a more universal appeal ideal goal for people Ni Fe which is why I actually think everyone will relate to the INFJ skits whereas ENFP is going particular with the Ne Fi ideating with personal values focus which will perhaps make your ENFP characters more difficult to relate to than your INFJs characters and people might struggle to relate because it's particular to the individual especially with Si experience combined with the Fi value Ne ideation combo...so that's why I was thinking of an INFJ gauge mindset kinda like our superhero selves we put on for others to gain acquaintances whereas an ENFP gauge mindset is like our secret identity which we use to gain friends.
It's not perfect especially since I think another way to look at it is people sharing their introvert functions with others such as an INFJ sharing their Ni goal is more intimate for friendship as opposed to an ENFP's Ne ideating where they could be viewing people as fun ideas of relationships where they'll detach from the relationships, and being that INFJs lead with an introverted functions that's the more friendship type but hopefully you get what I'm getting at.
It's tough to make videos like this because they're just theories so it's kinda like how you picked INTPs and ISTPs as being the smartest types and INFJs and INFPs as being the loneliest types...there's a narrative that can be made for all types to be the smartest or loneliest....or best relationship match....which in my opinion the best match is really going to come down to someone sharing the same beliefs as us and then once we're married and with children, we'll be so focused on raising our children in accordance with our beliefs that we won't have time for a navel gazing nerding out about functions. I appreciate how you said we're just thinking theorizing with this stuff in a vacuum with everything being equal. This is tough. I might re-read what I wrote and go "oh brother!" at myself".
Thanks for another video, Frank! Looking forward to Wednesdays...or Tuesdays...not sure if you are changing your schedule or if it was just temporary...I'm still celebrating your million subscribers!
I was trying to catch up on some older 16 personalities skits to come up with a best of for each type! Which...is another thing where....to get the best....really it's going to be what's best for the individual, but...I gotta pick something and that's why I went with Seinfeld, the Twilight Zone, and the Simpsons as the best tv shows.
Hope you enjoyed watching Napoleon Dynamite! Have a great week, Frank! Hope you're still excited over your 1 million subscribers! You rock!
I honestly think it depends on the person when it comes to being compatible with your shadow type or not. For exp I as an intj do get along well with entps but not romantically compatible by any means. But I again as an intj am mostly compatible both when it comes to relationships and friendships with infjs.
This is really intresting, thanks for making these videos!
Something I've been wondering (for anyone one might know) , can a factor like autism affect someone's personality test results?
Yeah I have adhd I wonder about it a lot becausr I come. Up with enfp
I've wondered how autism and MBTI affect each other too
@@queeny5613 Yeah im infp but idk
as a person that already knew about shadow functions, i think you could make a skit off that stuff. also it's pretty cool that you posted a video today, since i graduated middle school today
Frank, please make a video on the most compatible types based on the cognitive functions. Both friendship and romantic.
Hey FJ!! I have been thinking about this for a long time,,which stream would be better for each personalities to choose for their higher studies?
Video suggestion: MBTI SubTypes
What do you think about them? Are they FJ approved?
I especially wonder if INTP Ti-Si jumper/subtype is fake or not
“Jumpers” aren’t subtypes, nor do they need to be. They are a more convoluted explanation that both middle functions are really “auxiliary” and under some circumstances the type’s “shadow auxiliary” function may be in the dominant attitude. Or maybe this isn’t any more straightforward.
Thanks!
You bet!
I have really started to think that this information is profoundly important in understanding self and others. I think that communication breaks down if two people's operating systems are way too different, as I experienced recently with a short lived "romance". (I did not attempt to guess what the person's type was as I am not an expert in this subject.)
If we just realized our operating systems are different maybe we'd quit taking other people's triggering words and actions so hard. It would be worth a good study but I have a lot of irons in the fire and learning other things right now like nonviolent communication, for one, which also seems revolutionary to me. Still, this Jungian personality typing system is so worthwhile to understand. Who knows, maybe I'll one day decide to sit down and focus on it. Life challenges have made me have to dig my feet in more, leading me to look for answers in systems of understanding, books and classes, so I could see myself possibly studying it one day. Nonetheless, whether I do study it or not, I have great respect for this subject.