ROLLING STONES -- SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL [REACTION/ANALYSIS]
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2024
- Just a heads up that I stop the video to analyze some lyrics since, ya know, it's kind of the nature of reactions. Enjoy!
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The Stones holding up a big mirror & asking "Are you really going to blame ME for your shit? Your dark desires, your love of violence, your banal venal thieving ratbastardy? Look in the mirror. This is all on you, do not use me as a fig leaf - I did not force you to do these things, you CHOSE to do them."
Still gives chills after all these years.
Very well said.👍
You put it perfectly and far better than I ever could so thanks! 🙋♂
Exactly Right..... this entire song is about the hypocrisy of man
I've been dumbfounded for so long in nearly everyone's inability to actually see the truth....to think
Your reference to Dr. King's quote was nail on the head
Kudos to you sir
But at the same time, he wants those people to admit they've indulged in that very thing. Love it.
Damn what a way to put it lol anyone can understand this
AT LAST!!!!!!!!!!!! A "reactor" who caught it. The ENTIRE MESSAGE of this song is given right at the end with the line, "I tell you one time, you're to blame." The devil is asking for some sympathy because we always blame our misdeeds on HIM. And he's just saying, have some sympathy for me, because I'm always your scapegoat when in reality YOU'RE TO BLAME. Many other people I've watched react to this song NEVER mention or seem to catch that last line. They're usually bobbing their heads to the beat or closing their eyes in an attempt to show how "into" the song they are. But you caught that line and even stopped the video to mention it. Bravo! This song is very simple and EASY to understand. By the way, the Tsar Nicholas II and his entire family were killed in the Russian Revolution in 1918. Anastasia was the youngest daughter of Nicholas and was killed with the rest of her family in 1918. She was only 17. Hence the reference to her screaming in vain. Many of the younger "reactors" probably don't know anything about who she was or understand the screaming in vain line. That's sad.
Perhaps the most important line and easily missed. As you say the only reaction I’ve seen where anyone has caught it.
They only know her from the The Disney flick. They don't understand the history. Our education fails our children.
About the Kennedy's, it was "you and me" throughout history. Lucifer was only allowed by God to tempt man to do evil, but man was the one acting the evil out.
Now take god and the devil out of the picture...
@@gingerbaker_toad696 If you do not that, which I also believe is in fact the case, "the devil made me do it" holds no water
Today his name is Qanon. MAGA Qanon, the orange puppet, and Mr. Putin and his Oligarch Ministers of Death, Destruction, Pain, and evil criminal greed.
@@gingerbaker_toad696if you subtract god and the devil you are left with enticemen, incitement, temptation, lust, seduction, sedition, wanton greed, and wild ambition.
If these things are not beyond one’s experience then have some sympathy. Otherwise, we shouldn’t judge or think we understand.
@@ed.z. if you take them away you have humans. ...
Anastasia was the daughter of Czar Nikolai II. She and the rest of the family were murdered in the basement of their mansion in Ekaterinburg Russia. The mansion was ordered to be torn down, but 2 officers loved the family and save the wall where the bullets which passed through their bodies entered. In 1998 the Cathedral of the Blood was being built in honor of the family and all saints in Russia. It was completed in 2003 and that very wall was placed in a special room on the right side of the main altar in the upper church. How do I know? I did a historical photo documentary of this event.
Yes know the story but great share. Thank you.
Knowing the story of the Russian revolution is a requirement in school all over the world...
Americans don't get tought this?
The way I always understood this is, I (Lucifer) may put the idea in your head, but it’s ultimately you (humans) who makes the decision to choose evil. Yet, everyone blames the devil. So, have some sympathy because it’s not he who actually did it.
I heard a great quote from a Muslim cleric that summed it up well. “I wanted to ask God why he would allow so much hunger and war and poverty, but I was afraid he would ask me the same question.”
We can only blame ourselves, however, the devil is extremely clever at suggestion.
Thank you. That was the best analogy of Sympathy that I've seen, and I've seen a lot of them. I love the menace in the music. The "woo woos" is actually based on the sound that an owl, a creature of the night, makes. Lucifer, as Mick portrays him, is a cocksure, arrogant creature who relishes the fact that he's being blamed for the evil of others. He takes joy in the hypocrisy of it all. It's truly a classic song.
I remember when this came out and I was in college and the mainstream reaction was "The Stones are evil and depraved; they want you to have sympathy for the Devil." And I didn't think about the lyrics much at the time, except to think "Cool, anti-establishment!" About 20 years ago, I actually listened to all the lyrics and put together what I think the Stones were saying, which is very similar to your interpretation. I would add that I think they are also saying to have sympathy (love) for even your worst enemy, that which you think is most evil. It's an absolutely brilliant song, both musically and lyrically, and I'm astounded at the depth of understanding and the universal themes it depicts. I've never seen your channel before, and only selected it this time to see if what you had to say matched my interpretation. Thanks for covering a very different and illuminating aspect of pop culture.
You absolutely nailed it. You couldn't be more right! I've heard this song for 50 plus years and am just now really hearing it. A masterpiece.
Because, we all stood helplessly as his head was flowd on live TV. My father was an on duty officer that day in ‘63 in Dallas. Two years Bfore I’m born, but I’m forever linked to it!!
Well done! Not only are we to blame, but he's "in need of some restraint", which we're not providing.
At 7:35, that's the lightbulb moment!
The song is based on the Soviet novel The Master and Margarita. Part of the plot is the Devil retelling history from his point of view. His main point was, he never needed to commit acts of evil himself, but just give man a nudge. By sympathy, Jagger doesn't mean empathy, from Merrium's "an affinity, association, or relationship between persons or things wherein whatever affects one similarly affects the other."
I don't know who wrote this song, Mick, or one of the other members of the Stones, but it is deep and you're the only reactor who's really tried to interpret the lyrics, and you sound spot on
The song was co-written by Mick and Keith, with more of the lyrics by Mick where Keith strongly influenced the instrumental direction taken.
There are so many reactors who have interpreted this song already.
@@steveullrich7737Yeah, and most reactors completely missed it.
I've missed that line "you're to blame" too. OMG, I think you are right--hypocrisy!!!!
@deniseburney5543 It only took me 40 years to get it, assuming that's even the right interpretation!!
I’ll tell you one time….
Yep
Great line
Don't blame evil on Satan; blame evil on us. What is my name? It is humanity. Have some sympathy because otherwise humanity is eternally damned. It is only in having sympathy can you be forgiven.
It might be the greatest rock song ever written.
As a nice young hip hop fan commenter summed it up: 'Yeah, the devil is out there doing evil things, but he's the devil. He's supposed to be there. What are you doing right there with him holding the bag? Or the gun? And often as not you can't even tell who he is and that you're running around doing stuff with him and for him and instead of him. So what the devil is sayin is own up to your own failings, cut him some slack, and quit blaming him. He's out there as a punishment, the hell are you out there for? '
one of my favorite quotes is from Mark Twain, "nothing needs reform like other peoples bad habits"
“But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?”
― Mark Twain
I think you got it quite right. And I believe it´s Keith Richards who plays both bass and solo guitar on this recording.
Every time something good happens people say it’s God’s will, when something bad happens it’s the Devil’s fault. Let’s face it it’s all you and me.
This might be the most well written rock song of all time. I’ve never really listened to all the lyrics before, it’s chilling.
At last, someone who listens to the words!
He needs our sympathy because he is in all of us, the Romanovs, Lee Harvey Oswald, the criminals, you and me.
Without the devil how would we know what good is?
Good reaction ☝☝☝ to this song, so many of the reactors on UA-cam don't have the first idea of what this is about.
Probably one of the best lyrics of all time.
You forgot to mention Keiths blistering guitar solo!
Not sure what to make of the Union Jack, but then Im Scottish!!
@z0n0ph0ne You covered most of the bases in your post, and then some!! Thanks for the kind words, sorry about the Union Jack, and glad you appreciate the lyrics as much as I do!
@@thinkingtheology Great reaction and actual understanding of the lyrics. No need to aplogise for the Union Jack. The Scots had a referendum to vote on whether to stay in the UK or not. They voted to stay...
Best gospel song ever! 🜏
One of my favorite Stones songs. This and Paint it Black.
A LOT of the music from the 60s and 70s was about social issues, hypocrisy, bigotry. We wanted to change the world - make it better.
Listen to Southern Man - I forget if it is Crosby, Stills & Nash or if it is Neil Young’s. Young also did the searing “Ohio” about the Kent State massacre.
Eight Miles High (kind of a “why waste money on space?”) by the Byrds.
“Satisfaction” is another good Stones song about materialism. There are so MANY good songs from that era - songs that did more than “boy loves girl.”
Greatest rock song ever written.
Sidenote about the Kennedy's; the lyrics had to be altered to Kennedy's plural cuz Bobby was murdered in the weeks between the writing and the recording.
The sixties/early seventies were flat-out fucking crazy.
Best reaction I've heard on this song! Thanks...take care
@rickwestic746 Thank you for the post and kind words, Rick!
EXCELENT REACTION, BROTHER!. I think your dead on the money with your thoughts on this song. What lyrics. Thanks for that. Shoutout from Gatlinburg Tennessee. Peace. Later.
I think "Kings and Queens who fought for ten decades for the Gods they made" is a reference to the Hundred Years War between England and France during the Middle Ages.
And you're damn right. Guess you're not from the usa since you know some history
Canadian. Yourself?@@alexdart8508
Great analysis 🧐
Im 50 & never caught that last line either
Loved this ♥️
These guys are gonna be HUGE mark my words
This song was written after Mick Jagger read the book The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Afanasyevich Bulgakov. A very good read in my opinion. The story concerns a visit by the devil and his entourage to the officially atheistic Soviet Union. The devil, manifested as one Professor Woland, challenges the Soviet citizens' beliefs towards religion and condemns their behavior throughout the book. The Master and Margarita combines supernatural elements with satirical dark comedy and Christian philosophy, defying categorization within a single genre. It exhibits autobiographical elements, but is also dominated by many aspects of fiction. Many critics consider it to be one of the best novels of the 20th century, as well as the foremost of Soviet satires.
What gets me is that Lucifer's message is "I never once _made_ any of you do what you did. So stop trying to pretend that _you're_ not the bad guy." But of course, he says that right after spending the entire song doing _the exact same thing._
Ol' Scratch is saying quit using me as the fall guy for all the evils mankind does.
I also appreciated his appreciation of the song. I was 12 years old (1968j, when the stones released beggars. My mom, matriarch of a catholic family, would intercept my music, and it was either thumbs up or thumbs down. She took away “Tommy” album (Who) after reading liner lyrics. She never had a problem with this song, because she understood that stones were just relating a different way of looking at the evil in the world. Plus, it’s just a good song, musically, and my mom got that part. One of my top five stones songs. Never tire of listening to it.
What a great reaction! Thoroughly enjoyed it from start to finish. Thank you ☺
@Rosie-il3on Thank you for the post and kinds words--I'm glad you enjoyed it, Rosie!
This one peels the top of my head back when I think about it too hard! LOL. Brilliant song.
@dantallman5345 Same thing happens to me, and I've heard it a thousand times!
I've heard that Mick wrote this song after reading The Master and Margherita by Mikhail Bulgakov but I've yet to actually read it. I've read that the Devil comes to Earth in the form of a man in that book. I believe it was written earlier in the century in what was then the Soviet Union. I need to check it out.
@@rachelpsmith3129 I read this book a couple years ago, prompted by a similar comment left on a reaction to this song. Definitely worth checking it out and some of the background behind it. Enjoy.
The song is basically how we blame some made up devil for the evil we do ourselves.
Boom! You got it.
I think you really need to know a little history to truly appreciate this song. He's basically describing a lot of horrible events in history that he the devil influenced, but he couldn't have done it without willing people!
YES!!!! Mick Jagger is a genius. There is no such thing as the Devil He is an imagined embodiment of evil.. The evil lurks in normal everyday people without any involvement of some mythical evil being.
An introspective man,indeed! U gotta turn a harsh lens on yourself to get this song.
When JFK was assinated, although the Republicans had nothing to do with it, during the funeral procession there were no tears on their cheeks.
I dunno, if anyone was on the Grassy Knoll it was an FBI guy.
Hmm. Just stumbled into this "other" channel of yours. I'm intrigued. Might have to watch some old stuff and see if we have anything to argue about. 😇
@KevinRCarr There's always something to argue about. Ha!!
In the song the devil ask for sympathy, but in the facts and the real, we like him already...
when he says You he's speaking to humankind. The devil didn't commit all the atrocities he lists, regular people did. Some encouraged or coaxed by politicians (men of wealth and taste) but ultimately it's us
You are very astute and good with this reaction. Well done. Brilliant song.
hey, I don't know you and I don't really dip into theology, but witnessing your epiphany of the meaning under the song prompts me to suggest to you to watch the 1968 movie "Bedazzled." [not the 2000 remake]. It's a satirical farce with Dudley Moore and Peter Cook about a man who befriends "The Horned One" for a time while realizing his dreams in exchange for his soul. behind the outright comedy is an alternative look at the theology around the Devil from the perspective of relationships with god and man.
Margarita. Art inspiring art. Brilliance
"Nature of my game" is to get us to stay rebellious towards our Creator (because our Creator 'is really a tyrant') -- to reverse God's created moral order....as he boasts "...every cop is a criminal, and all the sinners saints... as heads is tails, just call me Lucifer..."
Spot on.
We have met the enemy and he is us
If you look closely at the lyrics here, you may come to realize that this song is NOT about the Devil.
🎶🎶Just as every cop is a criminal🎶🎶
🎶🎶And all the sinners saints🎶🎶
🎶🎶As heads is tails🎶🎶
[THESE ARE CONTRADICTIONS]
🎶🎶Just call me Lucifer"🎶🎶
[SO IS THIS]
If a cop is to a criminal, as a sinner is to a saint, and as heads is to tails, then it follows that Lucifer is to "God".
🎶🎶Hope you guess my name!🎶🎶
The protagonist in this song is God.
"So if you meet me
have some Courtesy
have some Sympathy
and some Taste"
Ingenious lyrics.👍
Bear in mind that the lyrics of the song are based upon the novel Master & Margarita by the Soviet author Bulgakov, released in the West in English translation for the first time in the mid 1960s.
St petersburg was called leningrad not formerly moscow and i think the czar was alexader the third and his daughter was never found anastasia although recently 2 unknown childrens bodies have been discovered believed to be anastasia and her brother
There is a lot of truth in the lyrics.
Keith on bass!
outstanding review!
+1 on the "complicit" comments. The Russian Tsar's family was slaughtered, including poor young Anastasia. I've always found that lyric particularly chilling.
This says it pretty clearly:
your kings and queens
Fought for ten decades
For the gods they made
So it's saying God is made up and further:
Just as every cop is a criminal
And all the sinners saints
As heads is tails
Just call me Lucifer
'Cause I'm in need of some restraint
What's the opposite of Lucifer? God. People commit all kinds of atrocities in the name of their God.
I think "it was you and me" was a reference to free will.
Check out the very recent Sweet Sounds of Heaven by a same band.
Lucifer is our way to explain our evils, if he exists all he has to do is sit back and watch us the Human Race
The Devil is a tool of human desire. Sympathy for the Devil is for the burden of carrying out those desires.
Remember the opening line "I'm a MAN of wealth and taste", this is about mankind doing bad things and shifting the blame. Inventing a scape goat to go with all the Gods we've invented. It's too hard to look in the mirror so it can't be OUR fault it must've been the boogeyman. The other line about "Kings and Queens fighting for ten decades for the Gods they made".
Do you take requests for songs to analyze? I would love to see your take on Queen’s “The Prophet’s Song”, written by the guitarist Brian May.
You should listen then to the song called “ Dancing with Mr. D.” And “Midnight rambler” Gimmie Shelter By The Rolling Stones
That's Keith on the Bass
All the events mentioned are politically motivated. It is from their most political album Beggar's Banquet ( Street Fighting Man, Prodigal Son, Salt Of The Earth)
Comes down " devil made me do it ", or did he?!!
I guess it's the only song with Politesse on the lyrics
Not only is the devil not whispering in your ear, God is letting all this evil happen.
this song always gave me a Rumpelstiltskin vibe...and we killed the Kennedy's because of the fame we gave them
Lucifer needs some understanding, some sympathy, because the Devil acts as the Devil is, he can't help his nature, he is as god made him. The Angels don't have free will remember. And people are complicit, that's correct, you hit the nail on the head.
No god no devil just man.
awesome reaction
I interpret “sympathy” for the Devil, as every bad act in the history of mankind was done by humans. Humans created the “Devil” as someone/something to blame for all these bad events when it was just down to humans. That’s my view anyway
It's not just your view either......it's the meaning of the song, in a nutshell. One should certainly have sympathy for someone being blamed for bad things when that someone can't possibly be to blame because they don't even exist!
If you don't have sympathy for the Devil, you end up just like Him!
The devil is basically saying of all the sins he has done, man is not that innocent either, man has conspired with me, and has done far worse things, so please have some sympathy on me...
The devil made me do it.
Corruption and Death ....
You grabbed onto the line *show some sympathy* as the kernal of the meaning, but for me it's in the lines right before that - As heads is tails call me Lucifer, implying that God and Lucifer are one and the same, or interchangeable, or that both are equally to blame for all that preceeded. Can you guess my name? The Devil does not seem to be a legitimate guess if The Devil is in the title of the song. In the Judeo Christian tradition it is God who expects worship and obedience, and it is God who will lay your soul to waste if He does not get it, as He did to Lucifer, so have some sympathy.
Jou cant blame Lucifer...becouse Lucifer and Jesus are one and the same...both called the " morningstar "!
I don't think American reactors get the refrences, so miss the point of the song. Maybe Marvel could make a movie.
he's busy in our govt.
there can be no good without bad, what would you compare it too ... HAKAD
How about Evil .Eternal battle of Good vEvil .
the longer you fight evil the easier it is to become... HAKAD@@CliveAdlam-yn8uz
Who's your daddy? What's my name?
Well nothing new. Anyone cerebral gets it. In the end God gave us free will. Of course we are to blame.
Stop pointing fingers at a mythical being.
Isn't "Thinking Theology" an oxymoron?
@williamward446 It's no more oxymoronic than saying talking about theology is anti-lingusitic. One may disagree with the concept of theology or metaphysics, but it still the product of thought, however misguided one may think it is.
His Name? Mankind.
The Devil is just an excuse.
I understood this in 1969 or whenever I first heard this.