they had a massive missed opportunity to just blame it on him being british. it's really easy to believe a character went pale from not seeing the sun when the whole landmass has never seen the sun.
The fact that the whole K9999 situation was just a fucking ARG made by the devs bc they thought it would be fun is THE most insane thing I've seen in years. I love it. This is what I wanna do when I become a game dev.
@@StickBreightley It isn't, but the way they seemingly erased him, both in-universe (with how characters just never questioned where he is or even *who* he is, never asking anything about him) and out of universe with the way the creators acted like he doesn't even exist and they don't know who he is either as though he was erased from existence, only for them to drop the reveal 20 YEARS LATER that they were lying and just fucking with us for the hell of it- it just seems like the kind of thing you would see happen in an ARG, with how elaborate it is
@@ranyadavina4585 yeah, even if they admitted they were lying, i think the reason is not "to hype him up for 20 years" because it's very weird to do that. For me there's a real reason that no one want to talk about because it's funnier that way and they kept the lie for years because they didn't want to use him anymore. Kronen is obviously a meta joke on K9999 but i don't think they removed him from KOF2002 just for that.
I have never seen a character with a weirder history than K9999. Like, I cannot fathom what the developers were cooking and I'm pretty sure it wasn't food
They cooked a meal encased it in concrete and put a nuclear symbol on it, and buried it in the desert. Then years later they unearthed the remains and said oh yeah it was perfectly safe to eat, we just wanted to see what would happen
Fun fact: 'Him in a dress' might actually be the most popular character in the series Note: we have a new poll that shows that him is still most popular. The top 10 highest voted SF characters with vote counts are: Ryu 5952, Chun-Li 3610, Ken 2753, Akuma 2331, Cammy 1896, Juri 1469, Sakura 1245, Zangief 906, Guile 674, (technically Akira Kazama 561) Blanka 530
@@EinSilverRose Ah yes, the variation of: Japanese martial artist Japanese martial artist but he's old Chinese martial artist but he's even older Chinese martial artist but he's boring American martial artist who's actually 3/4 Japanese anyway White guy in jeans Black guy in jeans Ninja who was retconed into not even being unique anymore British bouncer British bouncer but he's fat Final boss who practices Muay Thai because there was a moral panic about it in Japan around that time Semi-final boss who's basically the final boss-lite What a stellar roster.
@@Hawkatana Yeah, like, the SF2 cast are mostly stereotypes, but they've got fantastical abilities or wacky design elements or just go all the way with their stereotype. Dhalsim isn't just an Indian guy, or even an Indian yogi, he's an Indian yogi with stretchy limbs and fire-breathing. Guile is an American soldier, but he also has Stroheim's haircut and can pull off crazy somersaults. Even E. Honda is basically just a sumo wrestler (albeit one in kabuki makeup), but a sumo wrestler is distinctive enough, as a fighting style, to still work as a distinct character. Meanwhile, look at Lee in Street Fighter 1. His design is just "Chinese guy", and his fighting style is "he punches and kicks." Or how about Mike? We know that Balrog is based on Mike Tyson because he's, like, a boxer; he wears boxing gear and has all kinds of boxing-based moves. But Mike is just a guy in jeans, and the only thing to really mark him as a boxer is that he doesn't use kicks.
@@BIGBLUBLURThat would be funny. It would arguably be even funnier though if they released Q and then have the next DLC character be G, hint there's a shared history between them...and then literally never elaborate, which would be easy to do since G already comes off as an affable kook while Q is almost silent as a gravestone.
@@Asher-oo4bbMexico is more obsessed with SNK than any other country, almost to the degree of DBZ, and the country of Mexico held an entire tribute to Akira Toriyama when he died so they’re super hardcore about it
@@Asher-oo4bb Rugal is the final boss of the first King Of Fighters game, as well as multiple of its sequels. KOF became wildly popular in Latin America, specifically places like Mexico. He's making the joke that if KOF had to keep reusing Rugal instead of making one-off villains, the KOF community in Mexico would declare war on the devs in Japan
The goofiest thing about Xanadu, is that Kukri, a character who has some mystical ties, responds to Xanadu's gibberish with *gibberish of his own,* implying that either Kukri is fucking with him by playing along, or Xanadu's "god" is some actual mystical thing.
The funny part about Xanadu's gibberish is that everything he's saying is actually pretty basic, with the main takeaway being that he always exaggerates his sentences and makes them into long-winded speeches. For example, in the Team Villains KOF XIV ending, Xanadu burns the check for the prize money because he seeks *actual* power and not monetary power. When Chang & Choi ask him why he did that, instead of telling them he doesn't care about money, he just rambles on and calls them potatoes without telling them directly. In Chang and Choi's defense though, they were always scared of Xanadu and they only teamed up with him out of fear for their lives and they thought somebody as scary as him would help them get back at Kim after they went back to prison.
@@antonhanna2423 Xanadu is pretty aware of what was going on around the plot of KoF XIV. He is one of the guys in XIV and in the XIV manga that can sense the magic stuff happening around Verse and Shun'ei and whatnot. I for one like Xanadu ngl.
@@Thomazbr Yeah I'm in the same camp with you as a fellow Xanadu enjoyer. The only problem is, I can understand why everybody thought Xanadu would've thrived *slightly* better in the sprite era of KOF because all things considered, 16 bit fighting games were the best choices for freak characters in fighting games (outside of Mortal Kombat and Soul Calibur). Just take a look at that giant one armed demon guy from Samurai Shodown.
@@antonhanna2423It's probably for the best that Kusaregedo is currently stuck only in 2D sprite form. The guy is already of the most nightmarish fighting game characters that I don't want to imagine what he would look like in 3D.
I will admit the K9999 stunt absolutely got me too, in this video alone. I went from just learning about his existence to cheering for his return in the span of about 10 minutes!
My theory about Khronen is that the constant retconning was a meta arc. Khronen's existence was being memoryhole'd by the organization that made him to avoid culpability for what he'd do, and he played along to bide his time and find out who he really is. So, while they destroyed any and all records of his existence, he and those who stuck with him just refused to acknolwedge who he was and used it to find out who he IS. Hence why the artist who had specifically pigeonholed himself into drawing him simply drew "a guy in a big green hoodie." It _was_ him, but laying low. Maybe at one point it was a legal concern, but they moved past it and realized they had an interesting angle to work with and just rolled with it.
I think it's more that way. It's pretty improbable for me that they removed him from KOF2002 with the whole intent to use him as a meta joke, to the point of creating one brand new character to replace him.
I like this head canon, and really makes me wish they had changed his personality a bit more from K’. Maybe play more into an almost hippie free spirit in that exploring and figuring out who he is. Like seeing Kyo and especially K’ can still get a raise out of him. But making him more mellow than K’ would give him some unique qualities to stand out more in future games.
So like I don't know anything about mortal combat but Khameleon surviving her people by turning invisible is that just something they can do cause if so the fact that only worked for her is genuinely hysterical
Yep! the only other one of her species in the roster, reptile, has invisibility as one of his mainstay specials. it does appear to be just a thing they do, among their other lizard powers
@@jjjabbers In your defense, there is an entire myriad of fictional species/races who keep forgetting that they have pretty glaring strengths & weaknesses. For example, literally any type of Atlantean throughout the history of fiction. Just because you're still stronger than the average human on dry land, that does not mean you will *survive* longer on dry land (at least, if you're stupid enough to brute force everything around you without an obvious water source nearby to keep you alive).
the most notable thing about her is that she is really horny for Reptile but he doesn't care one bit, even if the guy whole backstory is that he want to restore his specie
Honestly they really could give em some work all this time Imo. I mean they did so for alot of others where Imo some aren't even now the same core characters they were. Btw Just alittle bit but I don't like New Mk1 making Dairou Havik, I always kind of preferred Havik be the "cleric of chaos" with unknown origins, someone who is a odd entity in flesh.... Making him some Seido Rebel whos face got half melted despite the Regen ability Quan Chi gave em. Also That STUPID hairstyle he has X(
To be fair, he also has one of the cooler fatalities in Deadly Alliance. Yes, this is the same game as Quan Chi's infamous neck-stretch, but it also has Cyrax grabbing his opponent by the head, slamming them into the ground, then pulling them back into his body where they're grinded to pieces, so there's that.
Fun Fact: Retsu almost got a playable appearance in Capcom Fighting Evolution/Jam, alongside an entire SFI section of the cast, including Eagle and a pre-scar Sagat
You know I don't think SNK planned to have the conspiracy around K9999 to go on for so long, but having not just one but two bancruptcies and buyouts to deal with likely put a hold on those plans for a good while.
Part 2 could be a mix of stuff that was missed the first time (Momoko, Sodom, etc) and series not included in part 1 (Tekken, Vs. Capcom, Guilty Gear, SamSho)
@@elneco4654 All of them had the same engine, art style, and general gameplay; the changes were gimmicks, the interface, and the story between 2 to 3. Considering this, Necro would be a three-and-done, given that 2I to 3S had changed the story.
To add more salt into the Hsu Hao wound, in the comic Mortal Kombat X Blood Ties - Prelude, He get killed by Scorpion also known as Ed Boon's Favorite character
@@AgentOracle I don't mean to nerd out and correct someone, but SF5 is set a little before SF3, and there's a theory that some horrible accident occurred to G in between the games that turned him into Q. It would be cool to see that theory come true with some sort of Q/G hybrid man, maybe after G heals up some more and the mask is removed but he keeps the Q outfit. I agree in that some form of Q's playstyle should return in SF6, he was my favourite in Third Impact after all.
I have yet to meet someone who first tried character in a new fighting game because they were competitively strong, it’s always how they look. In my case, I chose meta knight in brawl because I thought he looked cool, but I had no clue he was the best character in the game! 😅
I feel, I EXTREMELY, called out by the calling Terry and Kazuya shotos. I’m guilty as charged but I didn’t expect to be named here, I will cease my actions immediately.
I will admit, I'm definitely a weirdo, but Q, G, and Xanadu are some of my favorite fighting game characters. There's even part of me that wants Xanadu dubbed into English so I can understand him even less.
Yeah, I'm surprised that Xanadu only isn't dead-last in the polls because Gang-Il is lower still even if I can understand Xanadu being, uh, an acquired taste.
Dr. Baldhead from the first Guilty Gear game is a fun example of a character that TECHNICALLY never came back because at the end of his arcade mode he “disappeared forever”…but in the very next game they introduced Faust, a character with the same backstory and near identical commands who just appeared out of nowhere one day. Funny how that works, huh? They never even outright say they’re the same person officially anywhere because it’s so obvious that they don’t have to. OKAY HI UPDATE: I was going through some old Japanese concept art/design documents for GGX (or maybe it was XX? Idk) and there I found very subtle and sneaky confirmation of Faust being Baldhead. You see, there’s a blurb next to him that directly translates to: “Faust is Baldhead after regaining his sanity” Which, while it is a bit cryptic I think we can agree that it’s pretty clear confirmation.
@@channelorsomething218 And especially to bring Fanny into the picture so she can bring back the conical side of Faust, hoping to see her old friend again.
fun fact about jarek in mk4 being just kano renamed - in the roadtest version of the game before its full release, he outright was Kano. so it seems like they changed him to a 'new' character last minute to have more newcomers, without changing anything else but his model and name.
Necalli being an immortal soul eating aztec monster who wouldve been the beginning of the psycho power or satsui no hado was such an awesome idea with a fantastic design. Too bad he's in a universe where no one dies (not even gen, who has been dying for 30 years now) and therefore his only role would be a jobber to the ENTIRE CAST Literally never won a fight, then fully disappeared sadly when Ryu basically said "Swiper no swiping"
@soraandthegang1066 if I recall correctly, Gen and Akuma were going to face off to the death the second time they met, but Gen's illness was too far gone by that point, and Akuma stated he no longer cared to fight him
In my eyes, every character is on the table for a new fighting game (except Hsu Hao, he doesn’t deserve to exist). Just look what happened to K9999. He got a massive glow up. But, if there are any characters you never want to return, tell me. I’d love to know who and why
@@galanga21890 Hsu Hao's biggest problems are his design and him being brand x Kano. If they change his character and made him into a mobile grappler that used his wind clap and stomp for trapping he would probably go over well.
If I had to do something with Hsu Hao I'd go with the hard left turn joke and turn him into a retired criminal who's settled down as a chef and family man who runs a restaurant selling exceptional food at affordable prices, and the only reason he fights is because he has a deal with the Special Forces that sometimes he does work for them and in return he stays out of prison. His arcade ladder ending is that he's done enough work to have his crimes fully forgiven so he just goes home and nobody ever hears from him again.
21:00 - The thing with Sean is, I don't want him to come back just because we haven't seen him. I want him back so that we can see Sean vs Sakura, the battle of the trainees!
Ah yes. My favorite KoF character topped the video. Nice. Love ya K9999 & glad you came back & grew up. Also glad you kept the motorcycle. Shine on Krohnen.
Off-topic, I always assumed the easiest way you can diss Yagami, was by calling him "Sasuke's *real* older brother" (don't worry, I know Iori's been around since the mid 90's before the Naruto series even existed). I feel like Kyo gets it worse because he's basically Naruto if his parents were always around. Oh my God. I just realized that Shingo's basically Konohamaru.
Look, I like Xanadu. He's completely bonkers and I love that. If he were SLIGHTLY more competent, he could be a villain. As it is, he's basically Disco Elysium Japan Edition.
I feel like Hsu Hao was hated, by fans at least, because with his hat and mustache he looked like the biker from the Village People and gamers were like “haha gay” This isn’t like a hunch i remember reading jokes about him in that vein in EGM
Not only are the Fans the producers at Netherrealm Studios, they also don't like Hsu Hao and they even admit that Hsu Hao was the worst Character they will Create, and they will also insist on ensuring that all Mortal Kombat timelines, the Original, Altered and Reboot, Hsu Hao are 100% Dead.
@@HVVVVVVVV boy, It's with Hsu Hao Take it home Please don't make fun of other people's comments, because in the words of The Joker from Batman Arkhan, this is not funny.
Xanadu at the very least has some connection to Kukri and Dolores, hell, Isla's beta designs also take inspiration from him. So while his chances are low, I don't think he's GONE gone.
I SWEAR this has a context. Remy hates fighters because his father left him and his sister to go fight around the world. His sister ended up dying so Remy blamed all fighters and went on a quest to beat everyone (also he turns his dead sister into a block of ice, at fist I thought he had ice powers, but apparantly his projectiles are just energy, so dont ask me how he did that). His ending represents him moving on from both his grief and his anger, finally letting his sister go.
Honestly I don't follow fighting games much outside absorbing tidbits from a couple friends, but that kinda just makes me love these even more! All sorts of new stuff to hear about in a genre just familiar enough that I know what's going on :D
I understand the whole call of “no reason for nameless” but I must admit. He is my fave. I loved seeing krohnen in 15 but considering nameless had 1 game to make his mark, he has a awesome theme, a cool look, and a unique story for a “replacement character slot”
35:41 what’s funny is that Kobra actually looks a lot like Johnny from karate kid. We could’ve leaned into that and gave him a fatality where he sweeps your leg or something.
Q is my favorite street fighter character, not because of the mystery, but because he is the most obvious "Not a martial artist" in the whole series, even more so than Blanka. He fights like somebody who never actually learned to fight, and is just so strong that he can get away with it against trained opponents. Even watching high-level play, ESPECIALLY with his "taunt-to-power-up" gimmick, he's just kinda **Doin' stuff**, and I'd love to finally see it against SF's traditional roster. I want to see this scrawny, untrained cyborg(?) throw Zangief.
*Monkey's Paw Curls* ...So you like Ghostface? (Apparently, GhostFace on Mk 1 Dlc is the original GhostFace plus Kira and Kobra. They do find increasing creative ways to bring back old character.)
The reason I’ll never forget about Remy is due to the fact that I own his figure, which I originally got from booth selling retro toys at a convention i attended annually, it was always there every time visited that booth, and so one year I decided to just buy it outright, since then the figure has stood proudly on my shelf, so that’s why I can’t forget.
Absolutely amazing video, excellent job. Specifically I wanna single out K9999’s section. I’m a big fan of SNK, so seeing you recap this dude’s insane history right down to all the small tidbits about his special intro with Kusanagi and his eventual resurfacing. Truly magnificent.
I'mma be real. The team that got cut in KOF '94 are my favorite KOF characters in KOF '98. The projectile is just that weird and the charm is undeniable. I do hope at least Lucky makes it to KOF XV. Maybe I'll fight someone good and regret my choices.
If there’s one thing in this world I’ll always enjoy, it’s people talking about weird things in Fighting Games. Well, in this case, it’s weird people. Cool weird people for the most part. 2:03 He knows the truth. Necro appreciation, you love to see it. The Big Yellow cameo was cool too. 44:04 Top tier comedy. Well… K9999’s disappearance was not what I expected it to be… At least he’s not in Love Heart’s situation right now. As for Nameless, he did sort of get a send off in KOF All-Stars, as the 2002 Chapter was basically a showcase of his backstory and had him as the focus, so at least he wasn’t completely forgotten.
@@fruitjuice225 For anybody who stumbles upon this response, your response, or OP's original comment, Love Heart's IP (whether it's her own series specifically or just the character herself, doesn't really make a difference) was sold to Highlights Entertainment back in 2016. So as far as SNK is concerned, she's been officially deemed as a guest character.
@@antonhanna2423 Oh...OH OHHHH WAIT NOW I REMEMBER. She and another character came from SNKs pachinko game, but after left the pachinko business they selled there series away right? Least Alice is safe since shes pretty much a fatal fury character.
@@fruitjuice225 I guess you could say she's safe. But unless they decide to turn her into a DLC character in City of the Wolves, or at the very least put her with Hinako and Shingo as a team in the next KOF, it's kind of a moot point. Speaking of which, I'm surprised bumbles didn't mention Malin from KOF 2003. Then again, she's pretty much in the same boat as Shen Woo, with the difference being that Shen Woo still interacts with his former team members while nobody's heard from Eiji and Kasumi since XI.
Dang never knew the whole K9999 situation was just 20 year lie the devs kept up until we got Krohnen. Though i will say this I wouldn't mind this getting a follow up in the future cause the pool of one and dones is ever growing.
I legit was thinking about all of the cool forgotten characters in my favorite fighting games (I play Q in Third Strike that’s how it started) and then I see this appear in my fypage. Talk about timing
Fun fact: dairou is also the best character in the game because of his full screen unblockable attack that’s nearly unavoidable because jumping is slow and unsafe
Don't know if anyone else has commented this yet, but Bumbles did a really good job of explaining these characters mechanically in a way that makes sense to fighting game novices, like when he breaks down Remy's mechanics and how parrying works. Nice work! 👍
I won't lie, if it wasn't for Eagle existing, I wouldn't touch Alpha 3 Max (well, besides the fact that it has Fei Long, Maki, and you don't have to use a special input to select Balrog).
I'd argue that this needs to be a series, and two-and-done characters could also work in it; Rufus is an example of a two-and-done because of SFxT (SFxT can be considered a "dream match" that reused assets for Rufus, so he might just be a one-and-done anyway). Eagle is a two-and-a-half-and-done; CvS2, some alternate versions of Alpha 3 that are no longer in circulation, and as a nonselectable character in SF1.
My K9999 guess: right after the game dropped the legal team assumed Toho would go full Japanese copyright law on them and had him excised from all future material. But then that didn't happen and the team decided to roll with the mystery as a prank
I hope this becomes a regular thing as so many fighting games have that 1 weird character that is never mentioned or acknowledged, so it would be cool if this goes on like your delisted games video
Seeing Olcadan in the intro and not seeing a Soul Calibur section as well as scrolling through comments seeing other people list characters really makes a part 2 sound like a fun video idea. I know Olcadan was basically just the "Random Character" character, but he was kinda silly if I remember his endings right and I'm positive Soul Calibur has to have other weird one-off characters who didn't come back. Honestly thinking about Soul Calibur 3 again makes me wonder if there's video potential of like, "Alternate modes in video games that were cooler than they should have been", that game had a whole story mode where you made a custom character and had a full on epic happen that barely referenced the plot details of the main cast (aside from Soul Edge, and the fact that on the maps the main cast would just be super bosses who'd wreck people who tried to fight them).
@@karmicrespite5737 a little late but that's really cool and there's another contender in Soul Calibur that's very obvious because of who created the character that being Necrid well that and the fact Talim cured him from Soul Edge even tho fighting games always bring up the supposedly dead characters like Gen is an example and why I don't fully believe he's dead even if V implied he died but I'm sure he'll walk it off
Q and Krohnen are my absolute favorite characters in their respective series, no contest. That said, I don't even know if I want Q to come back, if him coming back would ruin the mystery (or, even worse, they'd make his gameplan less interesting)
@@Feuerhamster I do like G, yeah. I think the reason G works as a continuation-prequel to Q is that we don't really know what they are to one another. We can speculate, but we can't really tell exactly whether or not G is a more cognizant Q or if Q is a robot poorly imitating its creator's fighting style--The details aren't obvious, and we only know "yeah they're maybe the same guy". I like that, but it doesn't really solve the "Would this guy really work if they answered anything about him?" problem, you know?
I'd argue that counts as like, the most "Dream Game" of all dream games. It has every fighter come back from previous entries* AND includes a bunch of crossovers that would likely have issues with coming back in future Smash games if any more are made. Good luck getting P5 Joker (P6 may be out by the time the next Smash would release and while Atlas milks franchises they tend to do the newer ones) and Sora (notoriously a dream pick to the point that he's the last character to be put in the series unless either a new game or something crazy happens) in a game again. *The only 'characters' who don't come back from what I recall are basically specific versions of characters who did come back, such as Zelda and Shiek now being separate characters in Ultimate and Link being the BotW version with remote bombs instead of previous versions. Everyone else is roughly the same aside from buffs/nerfs gameplay wise as far as I know.
Whoever decided to make a character be the one to play against a less experienced player to give them a chance clearly was an only child. As a youngest child, my siblings showed me no such mercy.
A thing I'm always surprised people don't pick up on about Kobra... He's Johnny Lawrence, from the Karate Kid. That's why he's named Kobra, like, Cobra Kai? The Black and Yellow colourscheme with the snake aesthetic, the backstory of being a martial arts trainee-thug who eventually goes mad with violence and descends into becoming a psychopath? It's meant to be "whatever happened to the guy from Karate Kid", and I don't know why people miss that.
Ayyy Big Yellow mentioned! I'm very confident Sean will return in SF6, both for Ken's character arc, and because of Luke. Luke would be a great rival to Sean, in the way that Karin or Makoto are to Sakura.
Ok but if you’ve watched high level third strike you know how sick Remy is at high level, not as a zoner but as a rush down pressure oriented character watch Pierrot legit my favorite 3S player to watch, Remy ended up accidentally having an incredibly unique and engaging gameplay style that’s insanely difficult to use because of charge partitioning, parries and all the weird Third Strike Mechanics, he’s still not great but he’s usable Plus his theme slaps so I give him credit there
17:00 This really drives home why the whole "shotoclone" term is a thing. Because that particular move-set and fighting style has been employed rather several times. XD
SNK really shot themselves in the foot with team USA. They should just put them in as a base roster team, and see that way if "Hey, people actually DO like playing these characters" or not, without the gamble of "Will people actually go out their way to buy these guys separately as their own DLC?"
If I was to reintroduce Team American Sports, I'd have them actually fight and beat Iori's team, and steal their letters, the reason no one's heard of them directly in such a long time is because they were on an extended training arc/ dramatically exceeding all expectations for their respective sports, before returning to prove that they weren't just a one off thing, then, the next Team American Sports would be their kids, with different sports being represented.
Maybe whenever SoulCalibur VII comes out, we can get a follow-up that, at least in part, go into the new characters from SoulCalibur V and why most of them are highly unlikely to ever return, as well as how long it took for Hwang to finally return as a playable character.
For personal honorable mentions, Touhou, because if your attention span (like me) is not high enough to comprehend millions of projectiles flying at you in f off miles per hour, you'd be happy to know that Touhou also has its own set of fighting games to make getting into the franchise... somewhat significantly easier. One thing to note though is that the franchise's creator, ZUN, has a habit of creating characters and shoving them under the rug for 15 years, with the more notable escapees usually being late stage bosses or whatever he feels like bringing back. What, do you think the fighters are exempt from this? Iku, Sanae, Cirno, Alice, Patchouli, Utsuho, and some other characters I may or may not have missed since it has been a while since I played one of these games, do feel free to ask them if they're "exempt" from this rule. Note : This comment is in regards to said characters' fighting game appearances, no bullet hells, no photo games, no official comics, JUST fighters in general. And canon ones too. I also scribbled out newer characters introduced in the 14.5-15.5 games because aside from the fact that since most of the 14.5 roster would go on to make appearances in the sequel game AoCF, the only one that could technically be considered one and dones around those parts are the Yorigami Sisters, which at the time of writing this, are practically the last new characters introduced by the Touhou fighters and the last fighter bosses in the franchise in general. And besides, ZUN cuts out characters as frequently as I make up excuses to my parents about why I don't wanna leave my house, if we account every type of game in the franchise for this even though this video is explicitly about fighting games, we'd be here all day. Heck, ZUN cuts characters so frequently (even if it is mostly early stage adversaries) that you could make an ENTIRE VIDEO SPECIFICALLY ABOUT TOUHOU ONE AND DONES. But I'm not sure if Bumbles is ready for that video yet since like I said, Jesus Harold Christ does the funny beer drunk with the funny green cap cut a LOT of characters.
This is a really entertaining video. One honorable mention not included in the vid is Q-Bee from Darkstalkers. Her design is unique and captivating but Capcom probably doesn't know what to do with her afterwards.
Heavy D and Lucky Glauber are realistically the only ones salvageable from that team. (The former more than the latter.) A good idea to bring Heavy D back, would be teaming him up with Vanessa and Rick Strowd, creating a "USA Boxing" team.
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The whole K9999 situation can be summed up in one quote
"I love lying"- Bryan Danielson
"THAT'S GOTTA BE K9999! THAT'S GOTTA BE K9999!"
“Mokuba! You like our multi-decade faux coverup, right?”
*“He’s insane.”*
“See? Mokuba’s having a good time.”
_somewhere right now, cody rhodes is smiling & he has no idea why_
"There is nothing like a good lie!" -Dane Cook
“F I C K L E”
Fun fact: The canon explanation for Birdie having lighter skin in SF1 is that he was really sick at the time.
This is hilarious. We need more retcons with weirdly specific canon explanations.
they had a massive missed opportunity to just blame it on him being british. it's really easy to believe a character went pale from not seeing the sun when the whole landmass has never seen the sun.
It’s like reverse Michael jackson.
If it might be true, it is not a fact.
*cough* Bull crap *cough*
The fact that the whole K9999 situation was just a fucking ARG made by the devs bc they thought it would be fun is THE most insane thing I've seen in years. I love it. This is what I wanna do when I become a game dev.
Holding it for 20 years is definitely on another plane of insanity tho.
@@Nitosa 20.... YEARS...
This is probably almost as big of a company gaslight as Fruit of the Looms logo.
The act of not acknowledging a character is not an arg
@@StickBreightley It isn't, but the way they seemingly erased him, both in-universe (with how characters just never questioned where he is or even *who* he is, never asking anything about him) and out of universe with the way the creators acted like he doesn't even exist and they don't know who he is either as though he was erased from existence, only for them to drop the reveal 20 YEARS LATER that they were lying and just fucking with us for the hell of it- it just seems like the kind of thing you would see happen in an ARG, with how elaborate it is
@@ranyadavina4585 yeah, even if they admitted they were lying, i think the reason is not "to hype him up for 20 years" because it's very weird to do that. For me there's a real reason that no one want to talk about because it's funnier that way and they kept the lie for years because they didn't want to use him anymore. Kronen is obviously a meta joke on K9999 but i don't think they removed him from KOF2002 just for that.
I have never seen a character with a weirder history than K9999. Like, I cannot fathom what the developers were cooking and I'm pretty sure it wasn't food
They were cooking, but not for human consumption.
They cooked a meal encased it in concrete and put a nuclear symbol on it, and buried it in the desert. Then years later they unearthed the remains and said oh yeah it was perfectly safe to eat, we just wanted to see what would happen
Ok but what about the most iconic one and done fighting game character, guy I fought on ranked
Holy shit famous Lego crystal reviewer and Worms specialist Big Yellow
Ain't that the truth.
@@jackythewannabe4530What about the fighting and Pokémon games?
@@XenoChron2 pokken.
@@nehemiahpouncey3607 I meant fighting and Pokémon games separately.
Fun fact: 'Him in a dress' might actually be the most popular character in the series
Note: we have a new poll that shows that him is still most popular. The top 10 highest voted SF characters with vote counts are:
Ryu 5952, Chun-Li 3610, Ken 2753, Akuma 2331, Cammy 1896, Juri 1469, Sakura 1245, Zangief 906, Guile 674, (technically Akira Kazama 561) Blanka 530
She is, capcom held a poll for character popularity, Sakura was number 1, 2 was Makoto (Tomboy's always win baby), and 3 was Juri (Because FEET)
@@Aisoretafeet + dommy
And none other than Q was #4
@@okispokis7261 I FUCKING LOVE Q RAHHHHHH!!!
@@Aisoreta FEET
"Their idea of exotic was a black guy" fucking kills me
To be fair, that "Black Guy" was Iron Mike.
What a stupid line. As if the base cast of SF1 wasn't already varied enough.
@@EinSilverRose Ah yes, the variation of:
Japanese martial artist
Japanese martial artist but he's old
Chinese martial artist but he's even older
Chinese martial artist but he's boring
American martial artist who's actually 3/4 Japanese anyway
White guy in jeans
Black guy in jeans
Ninja who was retconed into not even being unique anymore
British bouncer
British bouncer but he's fat
Final boss who practices Muay Thai because there was a moral panic about it in Japan around that time
Semi-final boss who's basically the final boss-lite
What a stellar roster.
@@Hawkatana Yeah, like, the SF2 cast are mostly stereotypes, but they've got fantastical abilities or wacky design elements or just go all the way with their stereotype. Dhalsim isn't just an Indian guy, or even an Indian yogi, he's an Indian yogi with stretchy limbs and fire-breathing. Guile is an American soldier, but he also has Stroheim's haircut and can pull off crazy somersaults. Even E. Honda is basically just a sumo wrestler (albeit one in kabuki makeup), but a sumo wrestler is distinctive enough, as a fighting style, to still work as a distinct character.
Meanwhile, look at Lee in Street Fighter 1. His design is just "Chinese guy", and his fighting style is "he punches and kicks." Or how about Mike? We know that Balrog is based on Mike Tyson because he's, like, a boxer; he wears boxing gear and has all kinds of boxing-based moves. But Mike is just a guy in jeans, and the only thing to really mark him as a boxer is that he doesn't use kicks.
I love that they seemed to name Kronen after David Cronenberg. Double downed on “yeah this guy is a reference.”
Also
Since Fighter's History is canon to KoF
What if Kronen is related to Ray McDougal from that series?
@@RawrX32009
Kronen might be an alternate version of Ray.
@@austinreed7343 Hmmmm
Maybe
But
Why'd there be an alternate version of him?
I think it would be real funny if Q returned in SF6, with zero elaboration
It would be the most Q thing ever to just suddenly show up and Capcom don't acknowledge G at ALL
Q doesn’t even get a trailer or an announcement, they just shadow Drop him in the next update.
Most Q thing remotely possible.
@@BIGBLUBLURThat would be funny. It would arguably be even funnier though if they released Q and then have the next DLC character be G, hint there's a shared history between them...and then literally never elaborate, which would be easy to do since G already comes off as an affable kook while Q is almost silent as a gravestone.
Or they release a new character called T, who looks like Q and G but is kind different
SF6's roster will be 28 characters. Ryu, Ken, and 26 characters for each letter of the alphabet, including Q and G. @@ericf.a8623
"If SNK had to keep bringing back Rugal in every entry, Mexico would declare war on Japan."
This guy...this guy gets it.
I don't get that joke but I really want to, explain it to me
@@Asher-oo4bbMexico is more obsessed with SNK than any other country, almost to the degree of DBZ, and the country of Mexico held an entire tribute to Akira Toriyama when he died so they’re super hardcore about it
@@Asher-oo4bb Rugal is the final boss of the first King Of Fighters game, as well as multiple of its sequels. KOF became wildly popular in Latin America, specifically places like Mexico. He's making the joke that if KOF had to keep reusing Rugal instead of making one-off villains, the KOF community in Mexico would declare war on the devs in Japan
@@soundsofstabbing3627 and because fighting Rugal is the worst thing
@@Asher-oo4bb* looks at God Rugal * yeah definitely
The goofiest thing about Xanadu, is that Kukri, a character who has some mystical ties, responds to Xanadu's gibberish with *gibberish of his own,* implying that either Kukri is fucking with him by playing along, or Xanadu's "god" is some actual mystical thing.
The fact that both could be plausible is scary and perfectly on brand for Kukri
The funny part about Xanadu's gibberish is that everything he's saying is actually pretty basic, with the main takeaway being that he always exaggerates his sentences and makes them into long-winded speeches.
For example, in the Team Villains KOF XIV ending, Xanadu burns the check for the prize money because he seeks *actual* power and not monetary power. When Chang & Choi ask him why he did that, instead of telling them he doesn't care about money, he just rambles on and calls them potatoes without telling them directly.
In Chang and Choi's defense though, they were always scared of Xanadu and they only teamed up with him out of fear for their lives and they thought somebody as scary as him would help them get back at Kim after they went back to prison.
@@antonhanna2423 Xanadu is pretty aware of what was going on around the plot of KoF XIV.
He is one of the guys in XIV and in the XIV manga that can sense the magic stuff happening around Verse and Shun'ei and whatnot.
I for one like Xanadu ngl.
@@Thomazbr Yeah I'm in the same camp with you as a fellow Xanadu enjoyer.
The only problem is, I can understand why everybody thought Xanadu would've thrived *slightly* better in the sprite era of KOF because all things considered, 16 bit fighting games were the best choices for freak characters in fighting games (outside of Mortal Kombat and Soul Calibur). Just take a look at that giant one armed demon guy from Samurai Shodown.
@@antonhanna2423It's probably for the best that Kusaregedo is currently stuck only in 2D sprite form. The guy is already of the most nightmarish fighting game characters that I don't want to imagine what he would look like in 3D.
Canon may treat them like a joke but the concept of canceling out Rugal’s projectile with a basketball is so damn rad
For real, Team American Sports is fun to play at
Lucky Clover/Glauber Death Ball and Death Dunk is very satisfying when it hits.
I will admit the K9999 stunt absolutely got me too, in this video alone. I went from just learning about his existence to cheering for his return in the span of about 10 minutes!
Omg! Same!
1:05:43 “an evo-winning team” Bumbles Krohnen is top tier and has been on virtually every winning team at evo for the game’s whole lifespan
he's been nerfed into bottom tier over a year ago :(
Long Live K9999.
*was top tier
My theory about Khronen is that the constant retconning was a meta arc.
Khronen's existence was being memoryhole'd by the organization that made him to avoid culpability for what he'd do, and he played along to bide his time and find out who he really is. So, while they destroyed any and all records of his existence, he and those who stuck with him just refused to acknolwedge who he was and used it to find out who he IS. Hence why the artist who had specifically pigeonholed himself into drawing him simply drew "a guy in a big green hoodie." It _was_ him, but laying low.
Maybe at one point it was a legal concern, but they moved past it and realized they had an interesting angle to work with and just rolled with it.
I think it's more that way. It's pretty improbable for me that they removed him from KOF2002 with the whole intent to use him as a meta joke, to the point of creating one brand new character to replace him.
I like this head canon, and really makes me wish they had changed his personality a bit more from K’. Maybe play more into an almost hippie free spirit in that exploring and figuring out who he is. Like seeing Kyo and especially K’ can still get a raise out of him. But making him more mellow than K’ would give him some unique qualities to stand out more in future games.
So like I don't know anything about mortal combat but Khameleon surviving her people by turning invisible is that just something they can do cause if so the fact that only worked for her is genuinely hysterical
Yep! the only other one of her species in the roster, reptile, has invisibility as one of his mainstay specials. it does appear to be just a thing they do, among their other lizard powers
@@sariel4021 so basically in an entire species only two though to use the ability
They didn't want to survive as much as they did. Some mornings, you just aren't feeling it, yknow?
@@jjjabbers In your defense, there is an entire myriad of fictional species/races who keep forgetting that they have pretty glaring strengths & weaknesses.
For example, literally any type of Atlantean throughout the history of fiction. Just because you're still stronger than the average human on dry land, that does not mean you will *survive* longer on dry land (at least, if you're stupid enough to brute force everything around you without an obvious water source nearby to keep you alive).
the most notable thing about her is that she is really horny for Reptile but he doesn't care one bit, even if the guy whole backstory is that he want to restore his specie
The most notable thing about Hsu Hao to me is that one of my friends on Discord has had him as their pfp for more than a half decade.
based
Honestly they really could give em some work all this time Imo.
I mean they did so for alot of others where Imo some aren't even now the same core characters they were.
Btw Just alittle bit but I don't like New Mk1 making Dairou Havik, I always kind of preferred Havik be the "cleric of chaos" with unknown origins, someone who is a odd entity in flesh....
Making him some Seido Rebel whos face got half melted despite the Regen ability Quan Chi gave em.
Also That STUPID hairstyle he has X(
To be fair, he also has one of the cooler fatalities in Deadly Alliance.
Yes, this is the same game as Quan Chi's infamous neck-stretch, but it also has Cyrax grabbing his opponent by the head, slamming them into the ground, then pulling them back into his body where they're grinded to pieces, so there's that.
Fun Fact: Retsu almost got a playable appearance in Capcom Fighting Evolution/Jam, alongside an entire SFI section of the cast, including Eagle and a pre-scar Sagat
That entire K49 segment was wild, I was blown away by the sheer audacity of everything surrounding this character.
You know I don't think SNK planned to have the conspiracy around K9999 to go on for so long, but having not just one but two bancruptcies and buyouts to deal with likely put a hold on those plans for a good while.
Wow, Momoko from King of Fighters XI was so one-and-done & forgotten that she didn't even make the cut in the KOF section.
Part 2 could be a mix of stuff that was missed the first time (Momoko, Sodom, etc) and series not included in part 1 (Tekken, Vs. Capcom, Guilty Gear, SamSho)
@@austinreed7343 Wasn't Sodom in three games?
@@elneco4654 All of them had the same engine, art style, and general gameplay; the changes were gimmicks, the interface, and the story between 2 to 3. Considering this, Necro would be a three-and-done, given that 2I to 3S had changed the story.
Remember one female fighter on KOF who
Fights you doing nonthing.😂
She'll just bump into you the whole
Time.
KOF games got so, so ugly after XIII so she probably dodged a bullet, there. Lol.
To add more salt into the Hsu Hao wound, in the comic Mortal Kombat X Blood Ties - Prelude, He get killed by Scorpion also known as Ed Boon's Favorite character
At least he gets a decebt ending in mk11, in the Joker ending
Imagine being so bizarre and crazy that God tries to get rid of you in your big Super, but fails.
God realized he didn’t want Xanadu up there with the other denizens of Heaven.
@@darthgamer9861
And when that includes Tenshi Hinawi…
My boy Q was done dirty
Q walked so Big Band could Satchmo people into oblivion
I would vote for G coming back in 6, with a stance that swaps him into Q.
@@AgentOracle I don't mean to nerd out and correct someone, but SF5 is set a little before SF3, and there's a theory that some horrible accident occurred to G in between the games that turned him into Q. It would be cool to see that theory come true with some sort of Q/G hybrid man, maybe after G heals up some more and the mask is removed but he keeps the Q outfit. I agree in that some form of Q's playstyle should return in SF6, he was my favourite in Third Impact after all.
We need Q of sf6
I'm dying for G or Q in 6. I may never have a serious main until it happens
I have yet to meet someone who first tried character in a new fighting game because they were competitively strong, it’s always how they look. In my case, I chose meta knight in brawl because I thought he looked cool, but I had no clue he was the best character in the game! 😅
I don't care what anyone else thinks, Xanadu is perfect just the way he is. Batshit insane, a bit creepy, AND stylin'? I couldn't ask for more!
never played KOF but I'm loving whatever this cryptid called Xanadu is.
1:58 as a Mexican i felt called out.
But considering snk gave us RAMÓN and ANGEL (and king of the dinos) i will let it slide....for now
SNK really reached out to the fan base to make sure they were't being "Morbius'ed"." Smarter than other companies.
I feel, I EXTREMELY, called out by the calling Terry and Kazuya shotos. I’m guilty as charged but I didn’t expect to be named here, I will cease my actions immediately.
I will admit, I'm definitely a weirdo, but Q, G, and Xanadu are some of my favorite fighting game characters.
There's even part of me that wants Xanadu dubbed into English so I can understand him even less.
Yeah, I'm surprised that Xanadu only isn't dead-last in the polls because Gang-Il is lower still even if I can understand Xanadu being, uh, an acquired taste.
A new Bumbles McFumbles video **and** it's about fighting games? My morning has been made.
Dr. Baldhead from the first Guilty Gear game is a fun example of a character that TECHNICALLY never came back because at the end of his arcade mode he “disappeared forever”…but in the very next game they introduced Faust, a character with the same backstory and near identical commands who just appeared out of nowhere one day.
Funny how that works, huh?
They never even outright say they’re the same person officially anywhere because it’s so obvious that they don’t have to.
OKAY HI UPDATE:
I was going through some old Japanese concept art/design documents for GGX (or maybe it was XX? Idk) and there I found very subtle and sneaky confirmation of Faust being Baldhead.
You see, there’s a blurb next to him that directly translates to:
“Faust is Baldhead after regaining his sanity”
Which, while it is a bit cryptic I think we can agree that it’s pretty clear confirmation.
Given Strive’s story, I think Baldhead’s coming back in the next one.
@@austinreed7343 a fully recovered baldhead who feels no need to hide behind a persona anymore sounds awesome tbh
@@channelorsomething218
And especially to bring Fanny into the picture so she can bring back the conical side of Faust, hoping to see her old friend again.
And he was comical then later they
Turned him dark.
The pirate girl saying she hate baldies.😂
fun fact about jarek in mk4 being just kano renamed - in the roadtest version of the game before its full release, he outright was Kano. so it seems like they changed him to a 'new' character last minute to have more newcomers, without changing anything else but his model and name.
Necalli being an immortal soul eating aztec monster who wouldve been the beginning of the psycho power or satsui no hado was such an awesome idea with a fantastic design. Too bad he's in a universe where no one dies (not even gen, who has been dying for 30 years now) and therefore his only role would be a jobber to the ENTIRE CAST
Literally never won a fight, then fully disappeared sadly when Ryu basically said "Swiper no swiping"
I really wish they gave him another shot and a revamped look.
I wish the Hello Kitty crossover had included Aggretsuko as Necali. It would have been perfect.
@@BJGvideosthe WHAT
Gen literally got killed by akuma tho
@soraandthegang1066 if I recall correctly, Gen and Akuma were going to face off to the death the second time they met, but Gen's illness was too far gone by that point, and Akuma stated he no longer cared to fight him
In my eyes, every character is on the table for a new fighting game (except Hsu Hao, he doesn’t deserve to exist). Just look what happened to K9999. He got a massive glow up.
But, if there are any characters you never want to return, tell me. I’d love to know who and why
Hsu Hao returning as an actual, cool character would actually be the funniest thing. He sucks but he's no Kobra.
@@galanga21890 Hsu Hao's biggest problems are his design and him being brand x Kano. If they change his character and made him into a mobile grappler that used his wind clap and stomp for trapping he would probably go over well.
@@Megarover But MK rejects the concept of your pathetic archetypes beyond Injustice being riddled with zoner after zoner or Cage being a shoto.
Fuck Hsu Hao! All my homies hate Hsu Hao!
If I had to do something with Hsu Hao I'd go with the hard left turn joke and turn him into a retired criminal who's settled down as a chef and family man who runs a restaurant selling exceptional food at affordable prices, and the only reason he fights is because he has a deal with the Special Forces that sometimes he does work for them and in return he stays out of prison. His arcade ladder ending is that he's done enough work to have his crimes fully forgiven so he just goes home and nobody ever hears from him again.
21:00 - The thing with Sean is, I don't want him to come back just because we haven't seen him. I want him back so that we can see Sean vs Sakura, the battle of the trainees!
Ah yes. My favorite KoF character topped the video. Nice. Love ya K9999 & glad you came back & grew up. Also glad you kept the motorcycle. Shine on Krohnen.
You may hate a character, but you will never hate a character like Ed Boon hates Hsu Hao.
Ha! My buddies and I used to play Third Strike for hours after school. We always called Remy "Yagami Two".
Off-topic, I always assumed the easiest way you can diss Yagami, was by calling him "Sasuke's *real* older brother" (don't worry, I know Iori's been around since the mid 90's before the Naruto series even existed).
I feel like Kyo gets it worse because he's basically Naruto if his parents were always around.
Oh my God. I just realized that Shingo's basically Konohamaru.
Look, I like Xanadu. He's completely bonkers and I love that. If he were SLIGHTLY more competent, he could be a villain. As it is, he's basically Disco Elysium Japan Edition.
I feel like Hsu Hao was hated, by fans at least, because with his hat and mustache he looked like the biker from the Village People and gamers were like “haha gay”
This isn’t like a hunch i remember reading jokes about him in that vein in EGM
Not only are the Fans the producers at Netherrealm Studios, they also don't like Hsu Hao and they even admit that Hsu Hao was the worst Character they will Create, and they will also insist on ensuring that all Mortal Kombat timelines, the Original, Altered and Reboot, Hsu Hao are 100% Dead.
@@Miranha-SupremoV18even his ending the narration tone is off compared to the others.
@@JohnWilliams-wl9px Yet Hsu hao is dead, and that won't change.
It could also be because he might be a racist stereotype but I’m not quite sure. Still, I don’t get the visceral hatred for him.
@@HVVVVVVVV boy, It's with Hsu Hao Take it home Please don't make fun of other people's comments, because in the words of The Joker from Batman Arkhan, this is not funny.
Q and K9999 are some of my favorite characters in a fighting game and it's a shame how they were done so dirty
at least k49 came back in an insane way
Xanadu at the very least has some connection to Kukri and Dolores, hell, Isla's beta designs also take inspiration from him. So while his chances are low, I don't think he's GONE gone.
“The first 3D KOF”
>mentions Maximum impact in a about a paragraph later
THE FIRST THREE DEE KOF
A sentence earlier, even.
First *mainline* 3D KOF.
Remy’s ending is FUCKING WHAT????
I SWEAR this has a context. Remy hates fighters because his father left him and his sister to go fight around the world. His sister ended up dying so Remy blamed all fighters and went on a quest to beat everyone (also he turns his dead sister into a block of ice, at fist I thought he had ice powers, but apparantly his projectiles are just energy, so dont ask me how he did that). His ending represents him moving on from both his grief and his anger, finally letting his sister go.
big yellow referenced in a bumbles mcfumbles video? that is one pleasant suprise
I missed that, where was it
@@Fireluigi1225 20:08
@@yoshimallow i may be stupid
Honestly I don't follow fighting games much outside absorbing tidbits from a couple friends, but that kinda just makes me love these even more! All sorts of new stuff to hear about in a genre just familiar enough that I know what's going on :D
I think Retsu was supposed to show up in Capcom Fighting Evolution/Jam but that game's budget was so slim they only had time to add Ingrid.
I understand the whole call of “no reason for nameless” but I must admit. He is my fave. I loved seeing krohnen in 15 but considering nameless had 1 game to make his mark, he has a awesome theme, a cool look, and a unique story for a “replacement character slot”
as someone who had a very barebone understanding of KOF, you did an excellent job revealing who the famous forgotten character was.
35:41 what’s funny is that Kobra actually looks a lot like Johnny from karate kid. We could’ve leaned into that and gave him a fatality where he sweeps your leg or something.
Intro: 0:00
Street Fighter (1 & 3): 3:16
Mortal Kombat (3D Era): 25:09
King of Fighters: 40:48
Q is my favorite street fighter character, not because of the mystery, but because he is the most obvious "Not a martial artist" in the whole series, even more so than Blanka. He fights like somebody who never actually learned to fight, and is just so strong that he can get away with it against trained opponents. Even watching high-level play, ESPECIALLY with his "taunt-to-power-up" gimmick, he's just kinda **Doin' stuff**, and I'd love to finally see it against SF's traditional roster. I want to see this scrawny, untrained cyborg(?) throw Zangief.
Him and Miguel for Tekken are prime examples of characters that aren't trained but are hella strong and knows how to throw a punch
I never realized Kira got a redesign and holy shit she looks so cool. I want her to be playable yesterday.
*Monkey's Paw Curls*
...So you like Ghostface?
(Apparently, GhostFace on Mk 1 Dlc is the original GhostFace plus Kira and Kobra.
They do find increasing creative ways to bring back old character.)
The reason I’ll never forget about Remy is due to the fact that I own his figure, which I originally got from booth selling retro toys at a convention i attended annually, it was always there every time visited that booth, and so one year I decided to just buy it outright, since then the figure has stood proudly on my shelf, so that’s why I can’t forget.
Mokap is the only thing I value of Mortal Kombat. That is a hell of a way to capitalize on one of their gimmicks
Don't forget Mokap's equally confusing buddy: Meat.
@@karmicrespite5737 Meat is just canonically the best MK character without skin.
Still will never understand why people hate Mokap. Like who hurt you and made you this way?
Absolutely amazing video, excellent job.
Specifically I wanna single out K9999’s section. I’m a big fan of SNK, so seeing you recap this dude’s insane history right down to all the small tidbits about his special intro with Kusanagi and his eventual resurfacing.
Truly magnificent.
I'mma be real.
The team that got cut in KOF '94 are my favorite KOF characters in KOF '98. The projectile is just that weird and the charm is undeniable.
I do hope at least Lucky makes it to KOF XV. Maybe I'll fight someone good and regret my choices.
I hope he mentions my favourite one off character: Dysentery from the Bumbles McRumbles series
If there’s one thing in this world I’ll always enjoy, it’s people talking about weird things in Fighting Games. Well, in this case, it’s weird people. Cool weird people for the most part.
2:03 He knows the truth.
Necro appreciation, you love to see it. The Big Yellow cameo was cool too.
44:04 Top tier comedy.
Well… K9999’s disappearance was not what I expected it to be… At least he’s not in Love Heart’s situation right now.
As for Nameless, he did sort of get a send off in KOF All-Stars, as the 2002 Chapter was basically a showcase of his backstory and had him as the focus, so at least he wasn’t completely forgotten.
Heavily seconded on the appreciation for Necro.
Can you explain the love heart situation? I'm kinda curious.
@@fruitjuice225 For anybody who stumbles upon this response, your response, or OP's original comment, Love Heart's IP (whether it's her own series specifically or just the character herself, doesn't really make a difference) was sold to Highlights Entertainment back in 2016.
So as far as SNK is concerned, she's been officially deemed as a guest character.
@@antonhanna2423 Oh...OH OHHHH WAIT NOW I REMEMBER. She and another character came from SNKs pachinko game, but after left the pachinko business they selled there series away right? Least Alice is safe since shes pretty much a fatal fury character.
@@fruitjuice225 I guess you could say she's safe. But unless they decide to turn her into a DLC character in City of the Wolves, or at the very least put her with Hinako and Shingo as a team in the next KOF, it's kind of a moot point.
Speaking of which, I'm surprised bumbles didn't mention Malin from KOF 2003. Then again, she's pretty much in the same boat as Shen Woo, with the difference being that Shen Woo still interacts with his former team members while nobody's heard from Eiji and Kasumi since XI.
Getting Jumpscared by beyblade metal masters shocked tf out of me. I loved that game
Dang never knew the whole K9999 situation was just 20 year lie the devs kept up until we got Krohnen. Though i will say this I wouldn't mind this getting a follow up in the future cause the pool of one and dones is ever growing.
I wonder what the person who decided to put Kusaregedo into SamSho was on, because I want some of that shit
Tbh if they bring back Chang and choi they should make them totally reformed after being scarred for life from Xanadu.
Didn't Sakurai say something about them being reformed during the Terry presentation?
Maybe do what CvS2 did and have them as a team character.
One step closer to the Bumbles McFumbles video on Guilty Gear 2: Overture. We all want that, right?
I legit was thinking about all of the cool forgotten characters in my favorite fighting games (I play Q in Third Strike that’s how it started) and then I see this appear in my fypage. Talk about timing
Wouldn't be surprised if KoF XV's Shatter All Expectations slogan was solely there for [REDACTED]'s return.
As a KOF fan I really feel like a modern all american sports team would be fun to play #bringbackheavyd!
Fun fact: dairou is also the best character in the game because of his full screen unblockable attack that’s nearly unavoidable because jumping is slow and unsafe
Don't know if anyone else has commented this yet, but Bumbles did a really good job of explaining these characters mechanically in a way that makes sense to fighting game novices, like when he breaks down Remy's mechanics and how parrying works. Nice work! 👍
Eagle getting out of this list on a technicality is a shame.
I love him, and no-one seems to remember him, and I want more people to talk about him.
Technically Eagle IS a one-and-done, the others are none-and-done due to being bosses which are disqualified
I won't lie, if it wasn't for Eagle existing, I wouldn't touch Alpha 3 Max (well, besides the fact that it has Fei Long, Maki, and you don't have to use a special input to select Balrog).
Ken probably doesn´t want to teach, cause Master Masters just sounds weird.
I'd argue that this needs to be a series, and two-and-done characters could also work in it; Rufus is an example of a two-and-done because of SFxT (SFxT can be considered a "dream match" that reused assets for Rufus, so he might just be a one-and-done anyway). Eagle is a two-and-a-half-and-done; CvS2, some alternate versions of Alpha 3 that are no longer in circulation, and as a nonselectable character in SF1.
My K9999 guess: right after the game dropped the legal team assumed Toho would go full Japanese copyright law on them and had him excised from all future material. But then that didn't happen and the team decided to roll with the mystery as a prank
i think the same but the weird thing is that he's actually in two games, they removed him years after for the PS2 port of KOF 2002
1:04:49 “I had to keep the lie going for years.” SNK Discord
Bumbles I wanna thank you for exclusively making content just for me and my interests.
I hope this becomes a regular thing as so many fighting games have that 1 weird character that is never mentioned or acknowledged, so it would be cool if this goes on like your delisted games video
Seeing Olcadan in the intro and not seeing a Soul Calibur section as well as scrolling through comments seeing other people list characters really makes a part 2 sound like a fun video idea. I know Olcadan was basically just the "Random Character" character, but he was kinda silly if I remember his endings right and I'm positive Soul Calibur has to have other weird one-off characters who didn't come back.
Honestly thinking about Soul Calibur 3 again makes me wonder if there's video potential of like, "Alternate modes in video games that were cooler than they should have been", that game had a whole story mode where you made a custom character and had a full on epic happen that barely referenced the plot details of the main cast (aside from Soul Edge, and the fact that on the maps the main cast would just be super bosses who'd wreck people who tried to fight them).
@@karmicrespite5737 a little late but that's really cool and there's another contender in Soul Calibur that's very obvious because of who created the character that being Necrid well that and the fact Talim cured him from Soul Edge even tho fighting games always bring up the supposedly dead characters like Gen is an example and why I don't fully believe he's dead even if V implied he died but I'm sure he'll walk it off
For Me, One Of The Most Obscure Fighting Game Characters Was Amingo From Marvel Vs Capcom 2.
...I Miss Him So Much...
Q and Krohnen are my absolute favorite characters in their respective series, no contest. That said, I don't even know if I want Q to come back, if him coming back would ruin the mystery (or, even worse, they'd make his gameplan less interesting)
Krohnen is great in the Studio Still fandub of KoFXV
He DID kinda come back as G, implied to be his pre-brainwashed self.
@@Feuerhamster I do like G, yeah. I think the reason G works as a continuation-prequel to Q is that we don't really know what they are to one another. We can speculate, but we can't really tell exactly whether or not G is a more cognizant Q or if Q is a robot poorly imitating its creator's fighting style--The details aren't obvious, and we only know "yeah they're maybe the same guy". I like that, but it doesn't really solve the "Would this guy really work if they answered anything about him?" problem, you know?
The story of K999 is the single strangest video game story I have ever heard in my nearly 30 years of gaming.
Gotta love how thanks to Smash Ultimate NONE of those guys qualify for this vid
I'd argue that counts as like, the most "Dream Game" of all dream games. It has every fighter come back from previous entries* AND includes a bunch of crossovers that would likely have issues with coming back in future Smash games if any more are made. Good luck getting P5 Joker (P6 may be out by the time the next Smash would release and while Atlas milks franchises they tend to do the newer ones) and Sora (notoriously a dream pick to the point that he's the last character to be put in the series unless either a new game or something crazy happens) in a game again.
*The only 'characters' who don't come back from what I recall are basically specific versions of characters who did come back, such as Zelda and Shiek now being separate characters in Ultimate and Link being the BotW version with remote bombs instead of previous versions. Everyone else is roughly the same aside from buffs/nerfs gameplay wise as far as I know.
I have a feeling most, if not all, of the Sm4sh newcomers would be cut. Ultimate's "dream match" status only had them return out of obligation.
Wow imagine if I watched this video without first watching the Magneto vs Tetsuo Death Battle just yesterday that would have been embarrassing for me
Whoever decided to make a character be the one to play against a less experienced player to give them a chance clearly was an only child. As a youngest child, my siblings showed me no such mercy.
A thing I'm always surprised people don't pick up on about Kobra... He's Johnny Lawrence, from the Karate Kid. That's why he's named Kobra, like, Cobra Kai? The Black and Yellow colourscheme with the snake aesthetic, the backstory of being a martial arts trainee-thug who eventually goes mad with violence and descends into becoming a psychopath? It's meant to be "whatever happened to the guy from Karate Kid", and I don't know why people miss that.
Yeaaaah, SNK is probably one of the most clinically insane game companies out there.
Ayyy Big Yellow mentioned!
I'm very confident Sean will return in SF6, both for Ken's character arc, and because of Luke. Luke would be a great rival to Sean, in the way that Karin or Makoto are to Sakura.
Shame you don't hear of them anymore. It would be nice to see what they would do if they brought it back and how people would react.
The Kira and Kobra section has aged weirdly as they have now returned as playable characters as ghostface?
Ok but if you’ve watched high level third strike you know how sick Remy is at high level, not as a zoner but as a rush down pressure oriented character watch Pierrot legit my favorite 3S player to watch, Remy ended up accidentally having an incredibly unique and engaging gameplay style that’s insanely difficult to use because of charge partitioning, parries and all the weird Third Strike Mechanics, he’s still not great but he’s usable
Plus his theme slaps so I give him credit there
Remy just have a SF4 DeeJay syndrome that's all
17:00 This really drives home why the whole "shotoclone" term is a thing. Because that particular move-set and fighting style has been employed rather several times. XD
SNK really shot themselves in the foot with team USA. They should just put them in as a base roster team, and see that way if "Hey, people actually DO like playing these characters" or not, without the gamble of "Will people actually go out their way to buy these guys separately as their own DLC?"
If I was to reintroduce Team American Sports, I'd have them actually fight and beat Iori's team, and steal their letters, the reason no one's heard of them directly in such a long time is because they were on an extended training arc/ dramatically exceeding all expectations for their respective sports, before returning to prove that they weren't just a one off thing, then, the next Team American Sports would be their kids, with different sports being represented.
Maybe whenever SoulCalibur VII comes out, we can get a follow-up that, at least in part, go into the new characters from SoulCalibur V and why most of them are highly unlikely to ever return, as well as how long it took for Hwang to finally return as a playable character.
The whole K9999 thing.....they were just trolling, i love it
BEYBLADE: METAL MASTER ON THE DS MENTIONED!!!!
Gaming truly peaked with that game, it’s all downhill from here
For personal honorable mentions, Touhou, because if your attention span (like me) is not high enough to comprehend millions of projectiles flying at you in f off miles per hour, you'd be happy to know that Touhou also has its own set of fighting games to make getting into the franchise... somewhat significantly easier.
One thing to note though is that the franchise's creator, ZUN, has a habit of creating characters and shoving them under the rug for 15 years, with the more notable escapees usually being late stage bosses or whatever he feels like bringing back.
What, do you think the fighters are exempt from this? Iku, Sanae, Cirno, Alice, Patchouli, Utsuho, and some other characters I may or may not have missed since it has been a while since I played one of these games, do feel free to ask them if they're "exempt" from this rule.
Note : This comment is in regards to said characters' fighting game appearances, no bullet hells, no photo games, no official comics, JUST fighters in general. And canon ones too. I also scribbled out newer characters introduced in the 14.5-15.5 games because aside from the fact that since most of the 14.5 roster would go on to make appearances in the sequel game AoCF, the only one that could technically be considered one and dones around those parts are the Yorigami Sisters, which at the time of writing this, are practically the last new characters introduced by the Touhou fighters and the last fighter bosses in the franchise in general. And besides, ZUN cuts out characters as frequently as I make up excuses to my parents about why I don't wanna leave my house, if we account every type of game in the franchise for this even though this video is explicitly about fighting games, we'd be here all day.
Heck, ZUN cuts characters so frequently (even if it is mostly early stage adversaries) that you could make an ENTIRE VIDEO SPECIFICALLY ABOUT TOUHOU ONE AND DONES. But I'm not sure if Bumbles is ready for that video yet since like I said, Jesus Harold Christ does the funny beer drunk with the funny green cap cut a LOT of characters.
This is a really entertaining video. One honorable mention not included in the vid is Q-Bee from Darkstalkers. Her design is unique and captivating but Capcom probably doesn't know what to do with her afterwards.
Heavy D and Lucky Glauber are realistically the only ones salvageable from that team. (The former more than the latter.) A good idea to bring Heavy D back, would be teaming him up with Vanessa and Rick Strowd, creating a "USA Boxing" team.
Fumbles bumbling through another video about a game-Genre I really do not play or know anything about? Fuck yeah, let's go!