Most of Ahti's cryptic lines are actually idioms from finnish language. Joke being how convoluted it sounds if you translate those idioms to english without the cultural context 🇫🇮
@@MoistCroutonAhti is god of the sea in finnish mythology, so avcording to the many mentions of water and lake its safe to say that he probably is the finnish god of the sea called ahti. Google him. Very interesting
I’ve had the “Herald of Darkness” song stuck in my head on loop for the last 72 hours, that sequence might be my favorite video game levels I’ve played in years. Up there with the Ashtray Maze, which isn’t surprising since Control was also made by Remedy, and the music in the Ashtray Maze is also by Old Gods of Asgard/Poets of the Fall. Can’t wait to finish the game, it’s been incredible and completely worth all 13 years of waiting.
Yeah definitely the same. And then later i found another song that got stuck in my head which is equally or more awesome than Herald of Darkness . Game really trying hard to up itself
The idea of having pages that hints at the future of the videogame you're playing is great. The best part of Alan Wake's storytelling is all of the random "videogame" stuff you find like supply crates and those lunchboxes that's Alan writing it into existence
makes me happy that charlie is such a big fan of alan wake and remedy. i swear they’re one of the most under appreciated and underrated studios of all time and i’m just dying for everyone to finally realize how genius they are
@@fookoff8660always gotta be that guy, huh? What don’t you like about them? Never any actual contrast provided, just a baseless, smooth brained, duck neck response
@@Wariosmustachehe straight up said in his attack on titan video he was a weekly watcher and never got spoiled during the decade run of the series, i think he can last 2 weeks if he can last 10 years
Ahti was a very big character in Control, where his entire shtick is how ridiculous his conversations are - if they wrote him in any other way, it would feel lame. It would be very bizarre to hear Ahti give a straight answer to a question.
Ahti is my FAVE character in all of Remedyverse. He is a finnish water god. He is playful. ALSO thats why the whole mop bucket puddle thing. So ofc hes gonna make water analogies haha.
In finnish mythology Ahti is god of sea, Ahti is probably the same god of sea in remedyverse as it is finnish mythology, little things like hes talking about water puddles and lakes sounds like god of water to me also he is finnish clearly by speaking perfect finnish and played by finnish actor. the finnish players can understand his finnish sayings of course...
Heres some wiki page with english, but theres so much more stories in finnish about ahti god of the sea. Also ahti is pretty common name in finland too.
Regarding Ahti, he was like how Charlie desribed in Control. He was a recurring character in the game and is one of the weirdest and most mysterious characters in the game. I'm glad they brought him back in Alan Wake 2. In Control he is described to be a "Paranatural Entity" so he might not even actually be Human lol.
I mean he is named after a Finnish river/water god/deity which makes sense. And he speaks in Finnish idioms so when you directly translate the idioms they make no sense.
@@Rulettaja0 Yeah exactly, he's supposed to be that way. I don't think Charlie played Control because the way he talked about Ahti seemed like he wasn't familiar with the way he acts too.
@@humand0969 he didn't beat it i think he only got a few hours in and gave up which is sad because imo control is much more compelling and visually crazy
@@Seniorjohnson Yeah it's a shame he never beat it. Control is one of my all time favorite games. It's so fun and has such an interesting world and lore imo. Alan Wake 2 is great, but Control is definitrly a lot more in depth with some stuff, not to mention the delectable gameplay.
Ahti speaking in riddles kind of makes sense considering he's theorized to be a being older than time itself. He was a character that was very prevalent in Control as well.
@robertmonroe9837i never played control and my alan wake 2 experience is more than fine you dont need to play control it just has a couple of nods to it in game
I would highly recommend playing Control if you like Remedy and Alan Wake. It started this whole Remedy-verse that Alan Wake has become a part of. You'd probably appreciate Ahti and the FBC's presence in AW2 more if you did. Plus, the AWE dlc for Control directly centers on AW and expands upon the story quite a bit.
I feel so satisfied now in knowing that Charlie loved Alan Wake too. I swear, that game was so original and interesting that I had to rent it twice (yes, back in the days when DVD rental stores were still a thing). Super cool mystery thriller, unique concept. It was blown over by most critics because Red Dead Redemption was released in that same month and won GOTY, but Alan Wake had a narrative that was nearly as good, if not as long. Thank you for your review Charlie. Might be a buy for me.
I get the complaints about Ahti. I think the issue there is that he's from Control, a narrative that fits his style much better than Alan Wake. I think it's just a side effect of them being new to the whole connected universe thing.
Charlie I’ve been watching you for 4 years now and I love your regular videos but I think your experimental content is some of your best work. Thanks for all the years of content, I wish you the best.
@@p-__I see you spreading this misinformation in various other Charlie videos. Please stop. Sorry to inform you but your farts are light years behind Charles’ cyborg scum. 😡
That musical level was one of my favorite levels in a video game ever! It hits you out of nowhere and just when you think its over it keeps going! I had to replay the game just so I could go back and do a manual save right before the level so I can go back and play it over and over lol
Almost everything Ahti says in the Alan Wake 2 and in Control are known Finnish sayings (same way like "water under the bridge" etc.) He also says it with the strongest Finnish accent. Love that guy.
Playing New game plus, you realize what all of the npcs are talking about, and the game makes total sense the second time through, a truly epic experience, well thought out game, its almost like they wrote the story backwards in a seamlessly perfect way, game is 11/10
Alan Wake made me realise that simple mechanics, such as a flashlight, turn me from a "skilled" player when it comes to shooters 1st or 3rd person, into a panicking mess that game will always have a special place in my heart. Having him kinda read/speak things into existence as youre going through it made me wanna slam his head into a table or tape his mouth shut, such a quirky concept but god damn did it work
You won’t be disappointed. The Alan levels are so batshit trippy and surreal. Easily some of the most unique stuff I’ve experienced in a game. The Saga stuff isn’t as interesting but there is a lot of mystery and intrigue surrounding her which is what kept me interested w her story
I think Ahti is that way because we still don't know the nature of the character. He in Control guides Jesse throughe the maze, and in alan wake 2, he is the one that opens doors for you and guide you through the dark place. Also, Ahti usually reference water because Ahti is the god of water in Finnish Mythology. One thing that interesting about Ahti is that he is the only character that can move between reality and the dark place, not like alan or saga.
Haven't played this game but I'm fairly certain this "Ahti" character is an on-going meme for this studio. The "Patches" of Remedy Entertainment. Ahti is also a character in Control, one of their other huge titles and he plays a cryptic custodian with a thick accent that gives answers that can be extremely confusing but also the exact answer you're looking for.
Not really an ongoing meme, more of a game connecting character. The games all share the same universe and ahti is potentially a poweful being that is guiding the characters
"Charlie was excited to play a game he had waited to play for 13 years but then my writing came to life. When the game arrived Charlie fell sick with Covid-19 at the worst of times. He was as sad as an Arturo polar bear when he couldn't play Alen Wake II as soon as he could've. He watched playthroughs to pass the time wile his infection riddled him with disgust, but in the shadows he didn't realize the dangers in front of him." - Alen Wake
You can REALLY hear him breathing on this one. I hope you're doing okay Charlie, I'm not going through a good time either. but I siphon my strength to you in hopes you get well soon:)
My dad has like no immune system and never admits he feels sick- my mum had to bring him in and Ofc the nurse tells him he’d of died if he didn’t come in because he had Covid 💀 hee not even that old
Actually everthing Ahti says makes complete sense, you just cant interpret it because he's giving you answers that relates to the end-game stuff. That "seemingly" nonsense dialogue about water you joked about is actually something used in the final moments of the story. So he is giving you direct answers, we as players just can't understand them just yet.
I feel like the characters all act mysterious and weird because it’s something common in horror books so they tried to give this game the same feeling which I feel they did well
Actually the reason why everyone is so odd as well it is based off the show twin peaks and that show is phenomenal play this and the first deadly premonition games if you like this style of horror
I live out in the boonies in Oregon we got hit by a storm when the game came out so my wifi was knocked out so being bored I watched a playthrough of AW2 on 480p and omg I was blown away with how good the game looked on a shitty phone. Game does everything right and I can't wait to get my hands on a PS5 to play this game sometime next year
Alan Wake 2 is a masterpiece. Remedy took everything they've learned from Alan Wake 1, Quantum Leap, and Control, and combined it all into an incredible one of a kind experience
I didn't know that Ahti was in Alan Wake 2, but now that I do I'm even more excited. Ahti is not "normal" so it makes sense the way he talks, I'm glad he wasn't changed from how he was in Control.
Best fucking game series in my opinion How they connected quantum brake and control to Alan's etheric and esoteric realm is beyond what any game company has ever done let alone through a span of 13 years
This game is so good. I play it then stop then want to play again. THIS SHOULD SHOW ALL THE MULTIPLAYER DEVS THAT TRUE SINGLE PLAYER STORY GAMES DONE RIGHT ARE THE BEST.
I think I heard it mention that they way you approach the different character campaigns will influence how you view the story and it makes replaying the game more appealing cause you can approach it differently and get a very different play experience
I'd not even played the first one, I saw a bit of Charles streaming the second and now I'm playing the first instalment so I can be clued up on the story. It reminds me slightly of one of the greatest TV shows ever given to man, Twin Peaks.
As a fan of Remedy studios and their games for 20 years, I can proudly say that Alan Wake 2 left me with my mouth open multiple times and continues to do so because I haven't finished it yet. From story, to sound design and visuals, everything is amazing and I couldn't help but get reminded of Max Payne 1 and 2 with the rambles of Casey, the random appearances of the janitor, the oh so melancholic ambient sound of creaking buildings and doors. so yeah, Remedy has done it again.
12:51 If you finished control the world progresses fast and opens a whole new side Alan is a writer and his whole thing is a single entity and a single town There is no real way to make him more than that Having it end on a cliff hanger makes sense Alan started it got lost in the darkness wrote tons of stories In doing so created allies Alan "created" saga was created to free him Alan made the town stop the darkness But jesse is something that slipped by She is the fighting power alan needs to directly combat the darkness She fought against awveral supernatural forces including another big one like darkness She fought sound (the hiss) We might get another story of a new person or a combined story of jesse and alan facing the threats
Hella bummed out. I watched you play those first two hours live and was really looking forward to watching your entire playthrough. I finished the game myself a couple days ago and absolutely loved it. I’m looking forward to the DLC would be cool to watch you play those!
I'm going through Remastered with my wife right now before going through the sequel. She's always been interested in the story, and this way she can enjoy the story while I'm going through it. Wake is one of my favorite games of all time because of the story.
Ouch, feel bad for the wife. This game is straight up bland. Bland characters, bland story, really bad combat, childlike puzzles you can do without looking at the screen. Seriously, just spam click and youll get the clues right. Doesn't matter what you do. This game is straight ass and the Rothchilds are just paying everyone to say its good.
@@Buggabones Shit I could've gotten paid to enjoy this game? I'm getting robbed. Here I am enjoying one of the best narratives I've played in a video game for free. Sorry you didn't enjoy it, but some people have to take the minority opinion.
@@Camothor10no but it's a good gateway to horror games. It did the same for me back when it came out. If it weren't for Alan Wake I wouldn't have tried Resident Evil or Dead Space
Playing Alan Wake 1, American Nightmare, Quantum Break and Control back-to-back just to catch up on story and realizing even after that I STILL wasn't ready for how fucking EPIC and AWESOME AW2 is has made me the happiest camper. Also noticing the subtle references they've been dropping all these years across all games getting ready for the new one. It's not a lake... it's an ocean.... OF REFERENCES AND EASTER EGGS HOLY SHIT
One of the pieces I love about this game vs the first, the focal length used in third person is a tighter MM which creates a claustrophobic feel, especially in the woods, which increases the anxiety when doing combat or turning corners
If you think of it like Alan wake 1 released a week before this, the ending is ,while not good , decent. They don’t stray away from the “looping” nature of the dark place and Thomas Zane in an initiation 8 also mentioned, it’s not a loop it’s a spiral showing they kinda did set it up and it was not out of nowhere and also it was similar to how Alan wake 1 it was it’s not a lake it’s an ocean. With both the sequels we learn a lot more about the dark place and now Alan would have a much better approach to it as in the starting of the game he was like what the fuck and asspulls everywhere. Now he understands all that and it would be interesting to see his approach in the dlcs announced. The spiral thing also represents a writers/artists nature and how they start off with nothing and if they don’t stop making or creating they eventually get a better result and become more popular in reference to how Alan would eventually reach the end.But yeah if I had to wait 13 years , I would have been a bit distasteful the end
It always amazed me how few people even heard of Alan Wake back then. It has such a good story and I’m glad 2 is getting the attention 1 deserved. Screw it, I’m buying it right now.
I've been taking my time really savoring the game since it came out on Friday. I've got about 15 hours put into it and I absolutely love it. Hits all the right notes for me when it comes to gameplay, storytelling, overall design and the fact that it came out just in time for Halloween makes it all the more better. Plus without spoiling anything this game also gives us a small glimpse of what the Max Payne remake that remedy is working on might look like. I am very excited to see what they put out next.
For everyone watching this video, keep in mind there's a different ending that you can get, which is way clearer than the first one -- it was released I think one or two weeks after the game, so I don't know whether Charlie is taking it into account or not Also much like many others pointed out, keep in mind Ahti is a character from another Remedy series, Control, where he is supposed to be a David-Lynchesque character who speaks as if he was in its own world. But I do agree with everything else that was said, great game and great review!
Went through something similar, the day the System Shock remake came out I installed it and was ready to play but early I had eaten a chocolate snack and it gave me food poisoning, in between playing I basically went to the bathroom to blast the toilet from bow and stern interchangeably, it was like that episode of South Park where Kenny's dad was blasting the trash can just like that. Still finished the first level, then went to the hospital the day after and was diagnosed with a severe food poisoning, my stomach was cursing god every hour for at least 5 days
Have to strongly disagree on the ending, though I understand much of that wil be personal preference, however (spoilers below) Saying the ending brings us back to square one is simply incorrect. There are more people now in the dark place to assist us, Alan still has his memories unlike at the start of AW2, Alan understands the mechanics at play far more completely, and the final line "It's not a loop, it's a spiral" has some massive implications. A loop, as Alan had been thinking of it has no end, no beginning, moving in either direction leads to the same place, you can't break out of a loop. A spiral has a start, and it has an end, you can spiral inwards or you can spiral outwards, there are multiple directions to move in. The first game is the descent, the second game is the understanding, paving the way for the third to be the ascension. Just like Alan's books from the game, Departure (AW1), Initiation (AW2), and Return (AW3). The dark place is a complex knot, where the characters are looking it over trying to find where to pull to unravel it, and ends with them finding the end of the string so the process of unraveling the knot can begin.
Yeah. Alan is in the same place he was, but Scratch was defeated with the bullet of light and it will probably be much easier for Alan to escape now. He's done with his descent by stopping Scratch and now he's ready for the ascension stage like Alice said at the end. Hope it doesn't take 13 years for a new one, although I'm sure Alan and/or the characters in his games will appear in control 2 (which is next) or any other games Remedy plans on making. They nailed created their own game universe after all these years!
You're gonna love actually playing it. It's a masterpiece. I waited 13 years for a proper sequel and I'm not disappointed. I understand your feelings about the ending, but you have to remember there will be 2 DLCs and I wouldn't be surprised if there was a 3rd game. Specifically (SPOILERS): this game DID have a resolution...for Saga. Her part in this story is pretty much wrapped up, unless she wants to permanently join the fight due to the unclear situation with her daughter. But Alan's story isn't done yet, and I'm personally okay with that. There's still a lot we don't know about the Dark Place, the Dark Presence, Scratch, etc. that can be expanded upon in future content.
Such a great game. I can’t wait to figure out the mystery that is Warlin Door, and why Darling is in the dark place. I’m sure that’ll be touched on in the Night Springs dlc
my favourite part of allan wake 2 is when charlie's chat says "why do you says you wait for 13 years if you dont play the first game" in his livestream
They didn’t play it safe, and experimented a TON - having a musical and a full 15-20 minute long short film in there. It was great. I don’t think it left us in the same spot though - it isn’t a loop, it’s a spiral. It only looks like a loop since you do the same thing, but change enough you spiral within or without. Apparently the New Game + update is going to add onto this as well, so it’s gonna be cool to see how NG+ becomes part of the story lol
I dont understand the hype. This game is BORING as hell. It has good graphics.. THATS IT. Boring gameplay, awful writing, replacing characters for the same of "inclusivity." Idk how anyone finds this game fun. You literally walk back and forth to the same spot 100 times and find clues. Thats the entire game. If you try to explore, youll find NOTHING because you're not suppose to be there yet. You dont even need to do the clues right. The game will figure everything out for you if you just click buttons.. Its mind-numbingly boring. Combat is nothing but bullet sponges, burn with light, run, shoot, rinse and repeat for the entire game. I dont get it, everyone loves this game. 10/10 across the board. Something isnt right here. Someone got paid off or something. Theres just nothing here, bland story with bland characters and shitty combat, with simplistic childlike puzzles. Rinse and repeat.
I'm actually blown away by how good this game is.I'm a sucker for good stories and somehow Remedy always delivers for me.Also, the graphics are stunning this time.Drop dead gorgeous
I don't like how Saga can just figure out a mystery without any clues like how did she know those 2 siblings researching for a documentary had the necklace?
Just bought the first game for 4 bucks on PC. It's a really awesome game. I used to watch my friend play it but I never beat it. Gonna have to pick up this sequel at some point.
I waited so long for Alan Wake 2. I'm so happy it didn't end up in limbo and Remedy was able to get the license back. I think they regained the rights in 2019 to publish Alan Wake IP instead of Microsoft. It's so much fun and way better than I expected it to be. Wonderful game.
Charlies explanation of the need for an interpreter reminds me of that family guy bit about the brain damaged boxer doing commentary. "A broken promise is alot like a childs pinwheel. You have to be yourself, within the confines."
I liked Remedy before AW2 came out, but wasn't a complete and total fan (meaning by no means negatively - I just wasn't too familiar with most of their games), but after AW2 it just really resonated with me. It left me with this kind of passion for it that I thought only possible through the rosy lens of nostalgia. The gameplay is great, but the story just kind moved me with how much passion and sincerity went into this game. I think I'm a fan for life, and it's not too often games come along and really speak to me in that sort of way.
@@ChrisShafferOfficial Raise a hand and clap for this very obvious rage baiter, which will probably get hundreds of people watching his shitty videos despite it being an obvious bait
I played Alan Wake 1 over a decade ago during my college years and I STILL consider it one of the best games I have ever played; Had no idea they were even thinking about making Alan Wake 2 - and now it's released?! Wow!
I don't understand what I'm missing, I never understood why Alan Wake was considered a good game. Gameplay wise is very boring, limited and not interesting and storywise it's just about something comparable to barely enjoyable one. Is this because of the terror general mood the game sets? Is this like an emotional experience or something?
@@sailor5853 It could simply be nostalgia for me - I bought my first gaming PC at that time, and among Skyrim as being one of the first games I experienced on the PC, there was Alan Wake. Also, for genres like Alan Wake, you really do have to be in the mood/mindset for a single player thriller/horror - the same can be said for those type of movie genres, if you go into it with wanting to be scared or wanting that type of mystery feeling, then that tends to be the experience you end up having.
Most of Ahti's cryptic lines are actually idioms from finnish language. Joke being how convoluted it sounds if you translate those idioms to english without the cultural context 🇫🇮
Ahti is also highly implied in Control to be an actual God, or at least a being of immense power
@@MoistCroutonAhti is god of the sea in finnish mythology, so avcording to the many mentions of water and lake its safe to say that he probably is the finnish god of the sea called ahti. Google him. Very interesting
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I immediately thought this name was finnish. I'm happy it is, koska minä rakastan suomea
@@MoistCroutonYou know what they say:
*_All hail the Almighty Janitor_*
I’ve had the “Herald of Darkness” song stuck in my head on loop for the last 72 hours, that sequence might be my favorite video game levels I’ve played in years. Up there with the Ashtray Maze, which isn’t surprising since Control was also made by Remedy, and the music in the Ashtray Maze is also by Old Gods of Asgard/Poets of the Fall. Can’t wait to finish the game, it’s been incredible and completely worth all 13 years of waiting.
Yeah definitely the same. And then later i found another song that got stuck in my head which is equally or more awesome than Herald of Darkness . Game really trying hard to up itself
I prefer the first time Old Gods of Asgard happened in the first game, it was more badass and less silly and didn't make me cringe.
@@speedy2davey ugh shut it davey
@Mitch-Cumstein it was the most awesome moment of their entire lives. 😎
Have it on my Spotify playlist now lol
The idea of having pages that hints at the future of the videogame you're playing is great. The best part of Alan Wake's storytelling is all of the random "videogame" stuff you find like supply crates and those lunchboxes that's Alan writing it into existence
I don't think Alan was the one writing them into existence.
makes me happy that charlie is such a big fan of alan wake and remedy. i swear they’re one of the most under appreciated and underrated studios of all time and i’m just dying for everyone to finally realize how genius they are
Dishonored fan🤝
theyre not that genius
@@fookoff8660always gotta be that guy, huh? What don’t you like about them?
Never any actual contrast provided, just a baseless, smooth brained, duck neck response
@@pup123434always gotta be one of these miserable losers to ruin it lolol. oh well
@@emanuelpalacios713one of my all time favorites. can’t wait to see if the leak about a dishonored 3 ends up being true
Dude waited 13 years but couldn’t wait an extra 2 weeks to feel better and experience the game himself
He would have been spoiled online in that time, and probably harder for him to avoid social media when he’s a content creator
Its already out to play so why wait anymore?
@@RongDMemerdid you watch the video?
@@Wariosmustachehe straight up said in his attack on titan video he was a weekly watcher and never got spoiled during the decade run of the series, i think he can last 2 weeks if he can last 10 years
@@Wariosmustachehe didn’t want to spoil it so he spoiled it is basically what you’re saying
Charlie never fails to wait for 13 years
Didnt ask. I lUV ANIMAL ABVSE. My content is more entertaining has more substance than this utubers entire career. Eye posted proof.
@@ChrisShafferOfficial *+Parry* *+Friendly Fire* *+Projectile Boost* *+ULTRARICOSHOT* *+Fistful Of Dollar*
@returnofghg911are you 92
Mozart with yet another masterpiece
Jesus Christ there’s some comments in your bot section, Charlie
Ahti is easily my favorite control character, didnt realize anyone thought he was annoying. Really glad he's still in the shared universe!
the Finnish rambling gets kind of annoying
@@BanHelsing finnish people are just annoying
@@BanHelsing He speaks little full on Finnish in the games and never to the extent it would obscure anything of particular importance.
Just download the mod to make her white, it's canon that way. No race swap.
Spoiler alert y'all. Ahti isn't really Finnish, nor is he a human.
Ahti was a very big character in Control, where his entire shtick is how ridiculous his conversations are - if they wrote him in any other way, it would feel lame. It would be very bizarre to hear Ahti give a straight answer to a question.
Absolutely loved Ahti in Control! Great performance
Ahti is my FAVE character in all of Remedyverse. He is a finnish water god. He is playful. ALSO thats why the whole mop bucket puddle thing. So ofc hes gonna make water analogies haha.
Yeah he's not exactly human so it makes sense that he acts weird
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Athi is literally a finish sea god and dude definitely showcases the devs national pride.
The way it's broken into chapters is perfect, so easy to keep going but constant spots to take a break in the story. 10/10 game
I personally thought some of them were timed weirdly. Some lasted an hour or two and others felt like 5 minutes
In finnish mythology Ahti is god of sea, Ahti is probably the same god of sea in remedyverse as it is finnish mythology, little things like hes talking about water puddles and lakes sounds like god of water to me also he is finnish clearly by speaking perfect finnish and played by finnish actor. the finnish players can understand his finnish sayings of course...
Heres some wiki page with english, but theres so much more stories in finnish about ahti god of the sea. Also ahti is pretty common name in finland too.
But where does Kojima fit in?
that's awesome!
Regarding Ahti, he was like how Charlie desribed in Control. He was a recurring character in the game and is one of the weirdest and most mysterious characters in the game. I'm glad they brought him back in Alan Wake 2. In Control he is described to be a "Paranatural Entity" so he might not even actually be Human lol.
I mean he is named after a Finnish river/water god/deity which makes sense. And he speaks in Finnish idioms so when you directly translate the idioms they make no sense.
@@Rulettaja0 Yeah exactly, he's supposed to be that way. I don't think Charlie played Control because the way he talked about Ahti seemed like he wasn't familiar with the way he acts too.
@@Soulsworth69 he apparently did, but only the base version and it seems he doesn't really remember it
@@humand0969 he didn't beat it i think he only got a few hours in and gave up which is sad because imo control is much more compelling and visually crazy
@@Seniorjohnson Yeah it's a shame he never beat it. Control is one of my all time favorite games. It's so fun and has such an interesting world and lore imo. Alan Wake 2 is great, but Control is definitrly a lot more in depth with some stuff, not to mention the delectable gameplay.
Ahti speaking in riddles kind of makes sense considering he's theorized to be a being older than time itself. He was a character that was very prevalent in Control as well.
I haven't played Alan Wake 2 yet, but I really liked Ahti in Control. Can't wait to get into AW2.
He is a Finnish ancient being godlike
Oooh he's the Janitor in Control right?
@robertmonroe9837i never played control and my alan wake 2 experience is more than fine you dont need to play control it just has a couple of nods to it in game
@@dankyei yes!
I would highly recommend playing Control if you like Remedy and Alan Wake. It started this whole Remedy-verse that Alan Wake has become a part of. You'd probably appreciate Ahti and the FBC's presence in AW2 more if you did. Plus, the AWE dlc for Control directly centers on AW and expands upon the story quite a bit.
The chapter “We Sing” is the greatest gaming experience!
I feel so satisfied now in knowing that Charlie loved Alan Wake too. I swear, that game was so original and interesting that I had to rent it twice (yes, back in the days when DVD rental stores were still a thing). Super cool mystery thriller, unique concept.
It was blown over by most critics because Red Dead Redemption was released in that same month and won GOTY, but Alan Wake had a narrative that was nearly as good, if not as long.
Thank you for your review Charlie. Might be a buy for me.
I get the complaints about Ahti. I think the issue there is that he's from Control, a narrative that fits his style much better than Alan Wake. I think it's just a side effect of them being new to the whole connected universe thing.
I kept repeating the sequence in CONTROL where Alan meets Tom Zane for 3 years now. I'm not disappointed in the game at all.
I'd absolutely loved how crazy he was ahti is amazing.
Alan Wake 2 is so much better than I thought it would be. 10/10.
Remedy is such a great studio rn. They do what they want and they dont try to apeal to everybody
Alan Woke 2
@@SKXMANE Shut the fuck up. Calling wverything woke is same as calling everything right wing
@SKXMANE who cares if it's good unless you have problems with people who are not white or straight male?
Charlie I’ve been watching you for 4 years now and I love your regular videos but I think your experimental content is some of your best work. Thanks for all the years of content, I wish you the best.
@@p-__I see you spreading this misinformation in various other Charlie videos. Please stop. Sorry to inform you but your farts are light years behind Charles’ cyborg scum. 😡
That musical level was one of my favorite levels in a video game ever! It hits you out of nowhere and just when you think its over it keeps going! I had to replay the game just so I could go back and do a manual save right before the level so I can go back and play it over and over lol
Almost everything Ahti says in the Alan Wake 2 and in Control are known Finnish sayings (same way like "water under the bridge" etc.)
He also says it with the strongest Finnish accent. Love that guy.
Yeah and they are literal translations. Thats why they dont make sense
Charlie really gave us the longest review he’s ever made for a game he watched other people play. Truly pushing boundaries as always
Not that deep
@@swaydrengo to your doctor you may be autistic
I love cock and ball physics.
@@p-__let me sniff
He streamed himself playing it
Truly a *"WWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHH* THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR" moment of all times
Can u put me in the moist meter?
lol
I feel ya buddy.
I've been waiting for Dragon Age Dreadwolf for over a century now.
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My content ← his content
Me too man :(
I'm still waiting for rayman 4. Rayman 3 came out like 20 years ago at this point lmao.
Playing New game plus, you realize what all of the npcs are talking about, and the game makes total sense the second time through, a truly epic experience, well thought out game, its almost like they wrote the story backwards in a seamlessly perfect way, game is 11/10
Alan Wake made me realise that simple mechanics, such as a flashlight, turn me from a "skilled" player when it comes to shooters 1st or 3rd person, into a panicking mess
that game will always have a special place in my heart. Having him kinda read/speak things into existence as youre going through it made me wanna slam his head into a table or tape his mouth shut, such a quirky concept but god damn did it work
Mmmkko ki ko okokonkhi
It goes without saying that Alan Wake 2 truly makes you feel like Alan Wake 2
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My goodness these bots
@@ThisGuyDannyyyThey’re becoming more aware and fighting each other, its surreal.
when he said "It's time to Alan Wake, again." i cried
@IAmJustAPersonLollkeep begging, bot. Nobody believes you
You won’t be disappointed. The Alan levels are so batshit trippy and surreal. Easily some of the most unique stuff I’ve experienced in a game. The Saga stuff isn’t as interesting but there is a lot of mystery and intrigue surrounding her which is what kept me interested w her story
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What in the ohio 💀
The bots should be dressed as robots for Halloween
Bro stole my whole comment word for word 😂 I have never seen this behavior from bots. This comment section is bot hell
@@mattmas6628 I've seen bots do this exact thing numerous times lmfao
You gotta remember Ahti is a supernatural being from control, he's supposed to be weird like that
I think Ahti is that way because we still don't know the nature of the character. He in Control guides Jesse throughe the maze, and in alan wake 2, he is the one that opens doors for you and guide you through the dark place. Also, Ahti usually reference water because Ahti is the god of water in Finnish Mythology. One thing that interesting about Ahti is that he is the only character that can move between reality and the dark place, not like alan or saga.
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Nothing in the Control Universe states or even hints at him being a water God. If anything he IS the Oldest House.
@@CinnamonToastKing I think he's just to Finnish blue collar worker what Mary Poppins is to British nanny
@@CinnamonToastKingahti is literally the name of the finnish god of water
Mr. Door can as well. From what is hinted Door can move between more than just the Dark Place and Alan Wake reality.
Haven't played this game but I'm fairly certain this "Ahti" character is an on-going meme for this studio. The "Patches" of Remedy Entertainment. Ahti is also a character in Control, one of their other huge titles and he plays a cryptic custodian with a thick accent that gives answers that can be extremely confusing but also the exact answer you're looking for.
Not really an ongoing meme, more of a game connecting character. The games all share the same universe and ahti is potentially a poweful being that is guiding the characters
13 years? How bout waiting 25 for Good Burger 2?
well ahti is not human, it is a headache but this supernatural beautiful deity is what blew my mind the most about control and alan wake 2
It's refreshing to hear charlie say he's trying to not spoil something and he actually doesn't.
Yeah, the ending could have given us more. But the "it's not a loop, it's a spiral" hit just right for me
"Charlie was excited to play a game he had waited to play for 13 years but then my writing came to life. When the game arrived Charlie fell sick with Covid-19 at the worst of times. He was as sad as an Arturo polar bear when he couldn't play Alen Wake II as soon as he could've. He watched playthroughs to pass the time wile his infection riddled him with disgust, but in the shadows he didn't realize the dangers in front of him." - Alen Wake
You can REALLY hear him breathing on this one. I hope you're doing okay Charlie, I'm not going through a good time either. but I siphon my strength to you in hopes you get well soon:)
@p-_ fax frfr
I recovered from covid recently and it was the most sick I've been in my life. I really feel his pain
My poos are bigger than Charlie's poos
My dad has like no immune system and never admits he feels sick- my mum had to bring him in and Ofc the nurse tells him he’d of died if he didn’t come in because he had Covid 💀 hee not even that old
Actually everthing Ahti says makes complete sense, you just cant interpret it because he's giving you answers that relates to the end-game stuff. That "seemingly" nonsense dialogue about water you joked about is actually something used in the final moments of the story. So he is giving you direct answers, we as players just can't understand them just yet.
Ahti is in the game?! There really is a overlap with control! I was hoping! Yessssss
I feel like the characters all act mysterious and weird because it’s something common in horror books so they tried to give this game the same feeling which I feel they did well
Actually the reason why everyone is so odd as well it is based off the show twin peaks and that show is phenomenal play this and the first deadly premonition games if you like this style of horror
I live out in the boonies in Oregon we got hit by a storm when the game came out so my wifi was knocked out so being bored I watched a playthrough of AW2 on 480p and omg I was blown away with how good the game looked on a shitty phone. Game does everything right and I can't wait to get my hands on a PS5 to play this game sometime next year
The rock opera bit is one of the single greatest game moments ever lol.
Alan Wake 2 is a masterpiece. Remedy took everything they've learned from Alan Wake 1, Quantum Leap, and Control, and combined it all into an incredible one of a kind experience
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Quantum Break? Yeah AW2 is awesome.
The first couple of hours were bad imo. But the later parts are cool. Far from a masterpiece in my eyes but a decent game.
Don’t forget Max Payne. There’s a lot of little Max Payne nuggets in AW2.
does the ending make sense?
I didn't know that Ahti was in Alan Wake 2, but now that I do I'm even more excited.
Ahti is not "normal" so it makes sense the way he talks, I'm glad he wasn't changed from how he was in Control.
Alan Wake and Control are some of my favourite pieces of media entertainment of all time.
Best fucking game series in my opinion
How they connected quantum brake and control to Alan's etheric and esoteric realm is beyond what any game company has ever done let alone through a span of 13 years
I love how they directly tied it in with Control too
This game is so good. I play it then stop then want to play again. THIS SHOULD SHOW ALL THE MULTIPLAYER DEVS THAT TRUE SINGLE PLAYER STORY GAMES DONE RIGHT ARE THE BEST.
I think I heard it mention that they way you approach the different character campaigns will influence how you view the story and it makes replaying the game more appealing cause you can approach it differently and get a very different play experience
I'd not even played the first one, I saw a bit of Charles streaming the second and now I'm playing the first instalment so I can be clued up on the story. It reminds me slightly of one of the greatest TV shows ever given to man, Twin Peaks.
Oh comparing it to twin peaks kind of makes me wanna play it
Man i love twin peaks so much!
Twin Peaks is definitely among the diverse inspirations for Alan Wake.
If I remember correctly, the first Alan Wake had many Twin Peak references.
It took a LOT of inspiration from Twin Peaks
As a fan of Remedy studios and their games for 20 years, I can proudly say that Alan Wake 2 left me with my mouth open multiple times and continues to do so because I haven't finished it yet. From story, to sound design and visuals, everything is amazing and I couldn't help but get reminded of Max Payne 1 and 2 with the rambles of Casey, the random appearances of the janitor, the oh so melancholic ambient sound of creaking buildings and doors. so yeah, Remedy has done it again.
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If you finished control the world progresses fast and opens a whole new side
Alan is a writer and his whole thing is a single entity and a single town
There is no real way to make him more than that
Having it end on a cliff hanger makes sense
Alan started it got lost in the darkness wrote tons of stories
In doing so created allies
Alan "created" saga was created to free him
Alan made the town stop the darkness
But jesse is something that slipped by
She is the fighting power alan needs to directly combat the darkness
She fought against awveral supernatural forces including another big one like darkness
She fought sound (the hiss)
We might get another story of a new person or a combined story of jesse and alan facing the threats
I waited 13 years for a new TOOL album
It's so good to hear that a game I've been waiting for is actually good upon release
It's not a loop; it's a spiral.
I feel your pain...
Kingdom Hearts 2: 2005
Kingdom Hearts 3: 2019
Just finished the game and had to go back and play "We Sing" because the musical part is one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had. Great game.
if the damn musical part was the best gaming experience you ever had then you convinced me the only games you ever played was candy crush
Hella bummed out. I watched you play those first two hours live and was really looking forward to watching your entire playthrough. I finished the game myself a couple days ago and absolutely loved it. I’m looking forward to the DLC would be cool to watch you play those!
I'm going through Remastered with my wife right now before going through the sequel. She's always been interested in the story, and this way she can enjoy the story while I'm going through it. Wake is one of my favorite games of all time because of the story.
Ouch, feel bad for the wife. This game is straight up bland. Bland characters, bland story, really bad combat, childlike puzzles you can do without looking at the screen. Seriously, just spam click and youll get the clues right. Doesn't matter what you do. This game is straight ass and the Rothchilds are just paying everyone to say its good.
@@Buggabones Shit I could've gotten paid to enjoy this game? I'm getting robbed. Here I am enjoying one of the best narratives I've played in a video game for free. Sorry you didn't enjoy it, but some people have to take the minority opinion.
Charlie is a master of patience.
I was wheezing the whole time you were doing your Ahti impression… Thank you for this beautiful review.
Playing through alan wake was like playing a Christopher nolan movie
Ahti actually gives finnish idioms translated straight to english, most of them dont make any sense translated but they're funny
Athi and Casey were my absolute favorite characters.
Ahti is literally just Vsauce
The riddle style comments from characters sound like some of the characters in Twin Peaks which is an influence on much of Sam Lakes work.
4:15 sold me on the game... not sure why
Never liked horror games but Alan Wake Remastered got me into it and now I can't stop.
Not really a horror game
@@Camothor10no but it's a good gateway to horror games. It did the same for me back when it came out. If it weren't for Alan Wake I wouldn't have tried Resident Evil or Dead Space
@@pitchingwedge7546 yeah i suppose that is true
Playing Alan Wake 1, American Nightmare, Quantum Break and Control back-to-back just to catch up on story and realizing even after that I STILL wasn't ready for how fucking EPIC and AWESOME AW2 is has made me the happiest camper. Also noticing the subtle references they've been dropping all these years across all games getting ready for the new one. It's not a lake... it's an ocean.... OF REFERENCES AND EASTER EGGS HOLY SHIT
I’ve waited 13 years for you to make this video
One of the pieces I love about this game vs the first, the focal length used in third person is a tighter MM which creates a claustrophobic feel, especially in the woods, which increases the anxiety when doing combat or turning corners
6:33 Then again Ahti is finnish and finns don't usually have the best grasp on the english language :DD
If you think of it like Alan wake 1 released a week before this, the ending is ,while not good , decent. They don’t stray away from the “looping” nature of the dark place and Thomas Zane in an initiation 8 also mentioned, it’s not a loop it’s a spiral showing they kinda did set it up and it was not out of nowhere and also it was similar to how Alan wake 1 it was it’s not a lake it’s an ocean. With both the sequels we learn a lot more about the dark place and now Alan would have a much better approach to it as in the starting of the game he was like what the fuck and asspulls everywhere. Now he understands all that and it would be interesting to see his approach in the dlcs announced. The spiral thing also represents a writers/artists nature and how they start off with nothing and if they don’t stop making or creating they eventually get a better result and become more popular in reference to how Alan would eventually reach the end.But yeah if I had to wait 13 years , I would have been a bit distasteful the end
It always amazed me how few people even heard of Alan Wake back then. It has such a good story and I’m glad 2 is getting the attention 1 deserved. Screw it, I’m buying it right now.
I've been taking my time really savoring the game since it came out on Friday. I've got about 15 hours put into it and I absolutely love it. Hits all the right notes for me when it comes to gameplay, storytelling, overall design and the fact that it came out just in time for Halloween makes it all the more better. Plus without spoiling anything this game also gives us a small glimpse of what the Max Payne remake that remedy is working on might look like. I am very excited to see what they put out next.
For everyone watching this video, keep in mind there's a different ending that you can get, which is way clearer than the first one -- it was released I think one or two weeks after the game, so I don't know whether Charlie is taking it into account or not
Also much like many others pointed out, keep in mind Ahti is a character from another Remedy series, Control, where he is supposed to be a David-Lynchesque character who speaks as if he was in its own world.
But I do agree with everything else that was said, great game and great review!
"Time is lost like a fart in the wind" -Charles White 2023
Went through something similar, the day the System Shock remake came out I installed it and was ready to play but early I had eaten a chocolate snack and it gave me food poisoning, in between playing I basically went to the bathroom to blast the toilet from bow and stern interchangeably, it was like that episode of South Park where Kenny's dad was blasting the trash can just like that. Still finished the first level, then went to the hospital the day after and was diagnosed with a severe food poisoning, my stomach was cursing god every hour for at least 5 days
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Have to strongly disagree on the ending, though I understand much of that wil be personal preference, however (spoilers below)
Saying the ending brings us back to square one is simply incorrect. There are more people now in the dark place to assist us, Alan still has his memories unlike at the start of AW2, Alan understands the mechanics at play far more completely, and the final line "It's not a loop, it's a spiral" has some massive implications. A loop, as Alan had been thinking of it has no end, no beginning, moving in either direction leads to the same place, you can't break out of a loop. A spiral has a start, and it has an end, you can spiral inwards or you can spiral outwards, there are multiple directions to move in. The first game is the descent, the second game is the understanding, paving the way for the third to be the ascension. Just like Alan's books from the game, Departure (AW1), Initiation (AW2), and Return (AW3). The dark place is a complex knot, where the characters are looking it over trying to find where to pull to unravel it, and ends with them finding the end of the string so the process of unraveling the knot can begin.
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Yeah. Alan is in the same place he was, but Scratch was defeated with the bullet of light and it will probably be much easier for Alan to escape now. He's done with his descent by stopping Scratch and now he's ready for the ascension stage like Alice said at the end. Hope it doesn't take 13 years for a new one, although I'm sure Alan and/or the characters in his games will appear in control 2 (which is next) or any other games Remedy plans on making. They nailed created their own game universe after all these years!
You're gonna love actually playing it. It's a masterpiece. I waited 13 years for a proper sequel and I'm not disappointed. I understand your feelings about the ending, but you have to remember there will be 2 DLCs and I wouldn't be surprised if there was a 3rd game. Specifically (SPOILERS): this game DID have a resolution...for Saga. Her part in this story is pretty much wrapped up, unless she wants to permanently join the fight due to the unclear situation with her daughter. But Alan's story isn't done yet, and I'm personally okay with that. There's still a lot we don't know about the Dark Place, the Dark Presence, Scratch, etc. that can be expanded upon in future content.
Ahti talks like that in Control as well.
The "cowardly loser" line at the beginning might be the funniest Charlie line i've heard in forever
Been in love with this game since I first started it, I’m having a blast. Feels like the next level of survival horror that devs will look back on.
I love finding out that you have been one of the passionate fans waiting all this time just like me. This game is absolutely phenomenal
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Such a great game. I can’t wait to figure out the mystery that is Warlin Door, and why Darling is in the dark place. I’m sure that’ll be touched on in the Night Springs dlc
13 years? what a rookie. I am waiting 16 years for hl3 now, and still no end in sight.
my favourite part of allan wake 2 is when charlie's chat says "why do you says you wait for 13 years if you dont play the first game" in his livestream
I'm so happy so many people are loving this game and getting into the series. It's honestly one of the most awaited and best sequels in my opinion.
They didn’t play it safe, and experimented a TON - having a musical and a full 15-20 minute long short film in there. It was great. I don’t think it left us in the same spot though - it isn’t a loop, it’s a spiral. It only looks like a loop since you do the same thing, but change enough you spiral within or without.
Apparently the New Game + update is going to add onto this as well, so it’s gonna be cool to see how NG+ becomes part of the story lol
@@cregerbot8217 Can't wait to replay in a NG+ HYPED!!!!
I dont understand the hype. This game is BORING as hell. It has good graphics.. THATS IT. Boring gameplay, awful writing, replacing characters for the same of "inclusivity." Idk how anyone finds this game fun. You literally walk back and forth to the same spot 100 times and find clues. Thats the entire game. If you try to explore, youll find NOTHING because you're not suppose to be there yet. You dont even need to do the clues right. The game will figure everything out for you if you just click buttons.. Its mind-numbingly boring. Combat is nothing but bullet sponges, burn with light, run, shoot, rinse and repeat for the entire game. I dont get it, everyone loves this game. 10/10 across the board. Something isnt right here. Someone got paid off or something. Theres just nothing here, bland story with bland characters and shitty combat, with simplistic childlike puzzles. Rinse and repeat.
Hope you feel better soon charlie! Prayers!
I'm actually blown away by how good this game is.I'm a sucker for good stories and somehow Remedy always delivers for me.Also, the graphics are stunning this time.Drop dead gorgeous
would love to see him talk about this game again after having played and hopefully having played the updated content
I don't like how Saga can just figure out a mystery without any clues like how did she know those 2 siblings researching for a documentary had the necklace?
Just bought the first game for 4 bucks on PC. It's a really awesome game. I used to watch my friend play it but I never beat it. Gonna have to pick up this sequel at some point.
Dude, take a break for a few days and get better. We'll still be here.
I waited so long for Alan Wake 2. I'm so happy it didn't end up in limbo and Remedy was able to get the license back. I think they regained the rights in 2019 to publish Alan Wake IP instead of Microsoft.
It's so much fun and way better than I expected it to be. Wonderful game.
They had to “wokeify” it first. That’s why it took so long.
Charlies explanation of the need for an interpreter reminds me of that family guy bit about the brain damaged boxer doing commentary. "A broken promise is alot like a childs pinwheel. You have to be yourself, within the confines."
I liked Remedy before AW2 came out, but wasn't a complete and total fan (meaning by no means negatively - I just wasn't too familiar with most of their games), but after AW2 it just really resonated with me. It left me with this kind of passion for it that I thought only possible through the rosy lens of nostalgia. The gameplay is great, but the story just kind moved me with how much passion and sincerity went into this game. I think I'm a fan for life, and it's not too often games come along and really speak to me in that sort of way.
When Charlie starts the video by calling me short and a loser, I already know it's gonna be a good video.
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Ok
look at charlie talking about not growing while he's secretly 6'4😂😂
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I played Alan Wake 1 over a decade ago during my college years and I STILL consider it one of the best games I have ever played; Had no idea they were even thinking about making Alan Wake 2 - and now it's released?! Wow!
I don't understand what I'm missing, I never understood why Alan Wake was considered a good game.
Gameplay wise is very boring, limited and not interesting and storywise it's just about something comparable to barely enjoyable one.
Is this because of the terror general mood the game sets? Is this like an emotional experience or something?
@@sailor5853 It could simply be nostalgia for me - I bought my first gaming PC at that time, and among Skyrim as being one of the first games I experienced on the PC, there was Alan Wake. Also, for genres like Alan Wake, you really do have to be in the mood/mindset for a single player thriller/horror - the same can be said for those type of movie genres, if you go into it with wanting to be scared or wanting that type of mystery feeling, then that tends to be the experience you end up having.
the We Sing musical segment is probably the most WTF moment of gaming i had experienced over 3 decades of AAA gaming
Saw "13 years" and immediatley knew what you were talking about XD