@@wasbra I believe the 2nd is obtained in chapter 11 for preventing all the crest stones from being stolen. I know the first is in the Red Canyon Paralogue for Sothis in a chest
@@Beerpowered Gambit his life down until you can kill him. I think the first time you fight him there's nearby avoid tiles as well, so you can gamble on a ranged unit not getting hit.
@@robonoaware actually it isnt that hard if ur willing to grind a bit or reset for levelups. Just get ur byleth up to 15 spd and c in lances(which u would want anyway since so many master classes want it) knight peeler will half his health and then have anyone else use knightpeeler to finish him off.
The amount of renown needed to get class exp +1 is 2000, not 3000-whatever. The number you see on the statue itself is the TOTAL amount of renown needed to get to the bonus, not the amount that particular tier needs. You can confirm this by observing that the numbers decrease every time you buy an upgrade. In this way, every statue requires a total of 10,000 renown to fully restore.
@@7Sarutan7 No, it is only 2000, once you buy the first one for 200, the rest will drop by 200 so the required amount will be 300, 800, 1800. Then you spend 300 more and the numbers go to 500, 1500, etc.
Slight correction on renown. U get them from quests, not just aux battles. So all that stuff u get to do each month exploring gets u that. Also, the renown needed is cumulative. Meaning u just need 2000 on that statue to get the first class mastery. Watch as u spend points the values go down
You get class exp for every engagement regardless of if you attacked or not, so to grind out class xp I'd trap an archer (surround all 4 tiles) and move the unit i want to grind within his range amd just keep letting them attack. Also on maps you can create a chokepoint where an enemy will always attack the same unit (unequip your weapon so you don't kill the enemy) when i set this up I've been able master 5 classes in one map.
Exactly what i did. Grind up and save the battle quests for low level, low threat class exp grinds. Riding out a mission to turn 98 just to get those skills.
Also, depending on unit, Master Classes aren't the end all best classes. The Advanced classes are sometimes at least at parity with some, with exception for Sniper to Bow Knight. Gremory is female locked, meaning male mages best magic option is either Bishop, Dark Bishop, or Warlock. Assassin is arguably better than swordmaster, based on the added movement and the fact that terrain impediments don't affect them, plus free lockpickers. There isn't any real good reason for Mortal Savant to exist, as magic has so few uses without magic type-use X2. I feel like master classes in general weren't properly planned out and balanced. Great Knight feels like a direct upgrade for units already focusing on Heavy Armor, but the majority of them are mounted and feel too similar to matter.
Mortal Savant felix breaks the game. Kills everything in one range with swords doubles and high crit chance. has thunder to off high defense units and thoron for 3 range. He can also off heal but he should be killing things. Mortal Savant just isnt the end of the Male magic class line as a counterpoint to germory but as the end of the sword master line.
@@umbradens6129 Okay, but a forged bolt axe is 30 durability versus 6 tops and it is still 1-3 range. Still runs off magic stat, plus can use it regardless of class. A magic bow+ can also cover the gap if your willing to run Close Counter. Good option of bow knight, also does 1-3 range in that situation, still has decently high crit chance, still tears through armored units plus does okay against high resistance units like falcon knight due to bonus damage. Mortal savant looses out in mobility compared to any mount and in the case of great knight, a large amount of defense. Wyvern Lord/Falcon knight for maps that have foot hindrances, though you lean on raw avo more than defense/resistance. Axe/lancefaire in all those classes compare to Mortal Savant's swordfaire... Did I miss anything?
@@hotachicken Such a sad thing because I love the concept and design. If weaponry use wasn't so free range, maybe it would have at least interesting to use.
Some really useful info here but the video could definitely do with some streamlining. Maybe a quick list at some point we can refer to ? Like after there all explained or something? Or a recap at end of video maybe?
After completing the game, here are my tips: Mastery for Warmaster grants 2x attack for counters. Mastery for wyvern rider (the advanced class not master), seal defence that -6 defence to anyone that you hit. Luna the dark magic is absolutely broken, with a high level mage class can hit bosses for 70-80 damage without critical. Bow accuracy falls off above 2 square range, no point max range sniping unless you are trying to not getting countered. If you are playing on easy, get academy training for belyth for riding, magic, flying, heavy armour, ASAP. Once you can reclass into classes that uses those skills, you can grind it out in unlimited fights. So far strongest classes I have found are: sword master(even compared to master classes, astra is ridiculous), Gremory, falcon knight and bow knight. Warmasters have low res and tend to die quickly to magic. Dragon masters don’t have much accuracy and die to arrows hard. Black and white knights suffers hard from riding weakness and is weaker on speed, if your Gremory have a magic flaire, there is no point using magic knight class once you get that skill at s+ rank. Lystheria is by far imo the strongest magic user, followed by Mercedes. Byleth is good for swords and bows but otherwise try Claude (if you are golden deer) or Felix/Catherine/Shamir. Tanks can be anyone imo, Alios is alright, raphael is alright, they don’t make much of a difference. Cyril should have a special mention if you build him right he excel at pretty much anything physical. Recommend a warmaster or a dragon master approach.
I have some points to add in grinding skill ranks/levels in unlimited battle or even regular battle. Get one or two "training" weapons of each type and break them. Wear that on the character you want to grind on. If you're lucky and got a battle map with a lot of trees, move your unit to it and make sure there are also trees in all 4 directions around that unit. Press A on space without any unit and choose option, turn off "Automatic Cursor". Now you can spam pressing A on empty space, end turn, then press + to skip enemy turn. I don't know if there is "Retreat" option in hard mode but if there is, you can also do this. If all the enemies are moving, be careful not to have them all killed, if there is an enemy not moving, you can relax and keep spamming. Once there is only one unit left / you got to the point where you want to reclass or change unit to grind, go retreat and do everything all over again as much as you want. You won't get rewards but your weapons and consumables will be replenished to how they were (if you used a weapon with durability remaining). A good way to keep the map you want too, since unlimited battle map is based on rng. Have a ranged weapon in the unit's inventory too so they can kill the mages (and bow users) that can ruin the grind. Just don't put close counter ability on them if they have one. If you have goddess ring or prayer ring, equip one and you won't worry as much for your unit's health. If you can assign adjutants, assign one to the unit you're grinding, they'll also gain skills and class mastery points, except "Authority", that is.
I like how excited he is over wrath, because it is really good in this game, but in Thracia 776 it was even crazier, with a guarenteed crit whenever the unit counterattacked. The first character you get with wrath is named Orsin and with that skill, his personal axe the Pugi (though the most recent and complete translation refers to it as the Bhuj), and a Thracia only mechanic in the form of his x3 pursuit critical coefficient, he becomes the most reliably critting character in the series. As in, he is guaranteed to crit every counterattack and every enemy he doubles (and still has a really good 40% crit rate against those he doesn't) at base level starting in chapter 1 with a 1-2 range weapon.
NuclearUnicorn7 Cool story, but he’s excited because this is a Three Houses guide not a Thracia 776 guide, plus the fact most people are not going to play that game, so not quite sure what point you’re trying to make.
@@jroy97yt33 the point was: if you think this is powerful well it used to be broken back in the day. for me that character was joshua, can remember the stats/equip but he would tear it at the coliseum. also Seth, he was broken.
It's actually only 2000 renown. It updates as you purchase levels and shows you how much you need to invest to get to that level. The final total to max one statue rewards is 10k renown.
You are able to collect a total of 4 dark stones through one playthrough, through your encounters with the death knight. You must kill him before he escapes or the battle ends by killing the commander first. On missions with allies, I had to box in the enemy commander so the allies (Jeralt) wouldn't kill the commander before I could kill the death knight.
There are also some bonuses granted for leveling up certain skills to certain grades. For example if you level up brawling to B you will learn the Healing Focus combat art that cost 0 points to use. Which thrown on to a tank character with good defense and the Aegis ability makes them near unkillable. And if they do take damage they can heal back to full health in 2 turns tops.
Miracle sucks. When you have so many uses of Divine Pulse available, if you actually manage to get killed (which is hard to do unless you're playing like a madman), you can just turn back time and try something different. The class masteries he lists here are also good on any class wether you are a healer, mage, or physical attacker. Only healers will bother learning Miracle so its not worth listing here
@@alexanderluna4598 On hard I didnt kill him the first time, but I killed the other 3 encounters I of. You can probably kill on normal with a bunch of gambits
An additional tip for speeding up class mastery that I've noticed while playing: If a character is equipped with a knowledge gem then that character will receive double class mastery exp when entering combat. Which means if you already have the Saint Cethleann buff then that character will gain 4 class exp points per combat encounter. Quadruple the progress!
If you manage to find a Knowledge Gem ( i have 2 and do not remember where i got them) and equipped it you get x2 ability points meaning 4 (with statue buff bought) per engagement. it really speeds things up.
The first one i got was from a paralogue battle that involved sothis remebering somethign about the Zanado red canyon that was map full of demonic beasts and byleth is surrounded at the beginning
A good way to quickly master classes is to equip a broken training weapon or magic the opponent is highly resistant to, and fight against an enemy that does 0 damage to you or has low chances of hitting with the knowledge ring equipped. You can easily master a class or two per stage if you don't mind this. It's essentially the modern equivalent of attacking stationary units on a healing space with a bow to level them up.
If I'm not mistaken, as long as you have someone with the steal ability on your team you can steal a dark seal from the death knight. You'll encounter him more than once on your playthrough, hence more than one dark seal
This. He's also technically killable multiple times and drops it multiple times. However the seal is largely useless imo, as both Dark Mage and Dark Bishop are locked to Male only, meaning that outside of Byleth and Hubert, (maybe Lindhart or Ignatz as well) the seal goes largely unused in a typical playthrough.
Hubert is significantly better than Hanneman, but not recruitable outside of the Black Eagles. Lynhardt has a better spell list than Hanneman in both black and white magic. But yeah Hanneman is pretty good Your best bet for taking out the DK the first time you see him is 2 fairly quick lancers (to avoid being doubled) using knight kneeler as that's pretty easy to get. Divine Pulse is your friend (if you miss, rewind, hit with someone else and then try again)
As someone that's playing on hard classic, taking the chance of running people with low life for dmg isn't worth it. So I'll always take the heals lol. Ferdinand is also stronger while at max hp, so I'm in the habit of topping off.
Lysithea with vantage, wrath, pavise, aegis, and dark magic range plus one in gremory with thrysus equipped (preferably with the sign that gives you Annette's crest ability
It's absolutely horrifying. Be glad it isn't plausible in a normal playthrough, as you have to get multiple classes that require skills she's weak in and THEN get her reason to S-rank.
Close counter isn't the skill for mastering the Archer class. You get that skill for having bow rank C, and you get hit +20 for mastering the Archer class.
This is probably being typed already but you can actually get three dark seals per playthrough. Youre more like to get two though because the first one is almost impossible to do in my experience.
A quick correction, the Dark Seal you need for Dark Mage and Dark Bishop classes can be acquired multiple times during a play through. The requirement is defeating the Death Knight, which early on requires you to ether over level or throw your whole team at him for a shot. But it can drop every time he is defeated.
Personally I'm not a fan of using skills that require being below 50% health. Usually I find it to be much more work than it is worth to get activated.
Its worth mentioning that Lysithea's ability grants her extra class exp, so - along with the saint statue bonus she is pretty ridiculous. Not to mention she already hits like a truck but with the right mastery skills she could easily be a monster far quicker than anyone else.
Go into an auxiliary battle and equip a broken/rusted weapon and stand in forest tiles so you won't kill enemies. Every time a unit is in battle their class EXP increases, so you could also just unequip weapons if you don't want the big avo/AS penalty. However you need to attack in order to boost weapon EXP, and damage enemies to get regular EXP. You'll also get Authority as long as you have a battalion with an endurance above 0, and Armored/Mounted EXP if you're in a class that has those attributes.
He actually said it in the beginning. He said it's better to get the skill instead of combat abilities cause some combat abilities are class exclusives. So Assassinate... combat ability mastery,.... lethality..... skill mastery.
Give your units rusted weapons. Makes units fight more often to grind mastery and skills. Also you don't use up a bunch of weapons durability. Just be careful your units don't die since rusted weapons make your characters pretty weak.
@@chapchap8853 no the point is you want to be in more fights. So rusted weapons slow your units enough that they don't double attack. So it takes 2-3 fights to take out one enemy. It's slow and grindy. But works.
Any Brawler can survive easily thanks to Healing Focus. I also give my units Battalions that boost Avo, Prt and/or Rsl, but lower attack. It's also a good idea to utilize forest and heal tiles.
As far as getting more Dark Seals, getting a character high enough to steal can be a bit of work depending, you only really need 2 dark seals (it’s fun to kill him at every opportunity but Hubert and Lorenz are the only go to candidates, with Felix lagging behind due to being a beast if he focuses on swords and you get the Aegis from his paralogue). That said, if you get access to Luna he’s much more killable, I had Lysithea finish him after setup gambits with ease.
Vantage, Wrath, Defiant Crit, Defiant Avo, filler. Maybe a X Mastery or Movement +1. Axefaire from Great Knight class skill to boost a forged Bolt Axe, plus Canto. With a particular paralogue giving a free permanent +1 move, that's 10 movement, 15 if affected by stride battalion. Can by Wyvenn Lord, but being weak to bows without a particular equip item makes it risky in some situations. Maybe have both unlocked and switch based on map.
Along with the fact that there is more than one dark seal, the amount of class xp you get is based on the weapon. Some of the classes with multiple weapons will give more for a particular weapon
For those who want an easy win against the death knight, train up Lysithea's reason to B. She'll learn dark spikes which is a spell that's effective against cavalry units. Its a sure kill against the death knight.
Vantage and wrath are really good Defiant skills are pretty bad, the strength, mag, and crit ones are ok but you should not be relying on this Poison strike and lifetaker are really weak minor boosts The offensive blows are really good (Death, Fiendish, Darting) Lethality is bad but if you're going assassin for the great speed stat it's fine to pick up Quick Riposte is really good but it's from a master level class so you won't be able to use it much unless you play in normal or ng+ and spam battles Aegis and Pavise are really overrated unless if you aren't good at playing strategically. Fortress Knight is also a very bad class so don't force yourself to go through that. The mastery skills in general aren't worth grinding for except maybe Vantage and the offensive blows. A missed mastery that was better than most of the ones in this list was Desperation from Cavalier
Thanks, a great and useful comment lost in the middle of so many terrible ones. I'm pretty sure he never tested the skills he's talking about, he just went through a list of them and picked the ones which sounded cool.
you can get more than 1 dark seal, just by stealing it from that "skull dark cavalier" as many times as he appears in each battle. So you need a thief for it. I have stolen 2 so far. You can defeat him in order to take the dark seal, but it's way much easier to steal it from him, and just use a technique of reposition with another unit, to save the thief from death.
@@Annihilaped these active skills like "shove", "draw back" or "reposition", soldiers, mages or fighters should have these combat arts or whatever they're called
If you use the knowledge gem and you have the exp +1 you can get 4 class exp per fight instead of 2 i just mastered a wyvern rider from 60 to 0 in one match. Very useful to quickly master classes up on the non activity point battles since you can keep doing them over and over without moving forward in the story line.
You can actually get infinite dark seals from the dark shop that appears near the end of the game. I'm not sure when it pops up but it's around the same time as unlocking the secret shop.
Actually, you can get at least 3 Dark Seals depending on your route. All you need to do is *minor spoilers* Use a Thief to steal it off the Dark Knight every time you encounter him. In total, I got 3 encounters.
@@ziegfeld4131 whaddaya mean its not that hard? are you playing Normal because Hard with the Death Knight is a pain in the ass. Doubles you and has high accuracy
Dark Seals (Promotion item for dark mages/ bishop) can be stolen from the death knight by killing him or stealing it anytime he appears. (Holy Mausoleum, Underground Chamber, and Battle of Garreg Mach is when the Death Knight appears pre time skip.)
You get a dark seal every time you fight the Death Knight. He does become relatively harder the more you meet him. Getting the 3rd one was an actual bitch.
You can get several dark seals. Every time you encounter death knight you can one by stealing or beating him and you will keep encountering him several times
You only keep renown and whatever stature upgrades you have. BUT in new game+ you get the opportunity to buy stuff like professor level, supports, skill levels, and mastery skills you have already unlocked by using renown.
God I hate the Vantage/Wrath/Defiant skills, maybe it would be actually useful on Maddening, but on Hard my units are basically 100% HP by the end of every single player phase, and if they aren't, I'm getting them as far away from enemies as possible
PSA. so i did a pretty dumb thing lat night playing. the games tells you that characters without crest could die from using relics and i thought it was a lore thing but it is a mechanic. i got the aegis shield (which i didn't notice it was a relic cuz i'm dumb) and of course i gave it to Dedue because tank + more tankiness + resistance equals immortal but then i notice he takes 10 dmg every time he goes in combat (this would be in addition to normal dmg but this is Dedue we are talking about here...). anyhow took me like 2 hours of going through all his stats/abilities/inventory until i found out. still if you put a healer next to him 10 dmg is ok considering you have an immortal on your side (make that healer be Anette and have her use rally when not healing and he is unstoppable.
Theory crafted a vantage/wrath/desperation/close counter bow knighy felix, he should be able to hot anything at any range when attacked, I think he can still be hit by battalions, as they can't be countered in ant way.
Actually, if your paying attention to the death knight he actually drops some in one or two maybe more of the your encounters with him. Cause i had two dark seals before the time skip happened.
Can you maybe do a video about what each of the stats (dex, charm etc) does? Especially since three houses introduced the charm skill and I'm not sure myself what is it for except for dancers.
My question is, Should i go for every character for a Master class an are there enough Advanced Seals or should i stay in lower Classes for some because it is better for them ?
Later in the game you can buy infinite master seals from Anna. As for your question, the answer is yes, save for pure healers and assassins. Pure healers are units that, for stat related purposes (usually crappy speed or magic) are fundamentally useless as offensive units (save for killing armored enemies, which are walking targets for any magic class in the game anyway). There's an advanced class specialized in healing which gives some useful abilities, if you were to promote a pure healer to a master class like gremory or holy knight you would loose some of those benefits while obtaining some pointless buffs for its role. As for assassins, no master class needs a proficiency in both bows and swords, and none has the picklocking ability that makes most maps with chests a breeze. Female magicians go-to master class is gremory because it's a good all rounder class, and usually most magicians are skilled in both light and black magic. That being said the classes dark/holy knight are pretty good for offensive oriented magicians, with the holy knight terrain effect negation being pretty good. The lance/riding grades needed however make them a pain in the ass, save for hubert which has an hidden talent in lance that gets him a magic based attack, all the other characters need to train in school for those grades because in no way they would be able to learn them in battle, since previous horse classes can't use magic (you wouldn't bother classing a magician as an horse rider untill they reach the master class). Long story short, to get magic riders, once you reach level 20 and promote to an advanced class, start to teach them lance/riding shit asap. Same story for bow users. Bow knights are fucking cool. For melee fighters it's kinda easier. Armored units ->armored knights. They loose a ton of defensive power in the transition, however there are plenty of battles in the game where movement is far more important than tanking capabilities. Sword users->magic samurai (forgot the name) Wyvern/pegasus advanced versions -> wyvern/pegasus master versions Brawlers -> Grappler.
Ive only played blue lion so I cant help all of that much .... But one person for blue lion is ashe being a bow knight.... Eairly game he is trash... But what he brings late game is so broken you cant stop him.... He supports both fronts in all my battles do to his speed and range and by the time they meet up ive distroyed his bows.... Ussing annete as a dancer allowed for my tank dudue to stay in the frount lines without risking the upgrade for speed for defence.... And the healer is just better remain a bishop... With the cost of repairs from dudue and ashe weapions plus the lovely prince.... It cost to much money to buy the upgrades you could use on others
i'm sure most people know about this but in case someone doesn't know.... like the video said you don;t need to hit to gain class xp so finding a slightly weak enemy surround him/her with unit with broken weapons and enjoy free class xp for a few rounds. is cheesy and tedious but if you want the skills.... having no weapon equipped works too since the enmy will attack you but attacking speeds up the process and make sure to no have skill that lets you attack bare handed because you will probably kill the enemy due to str stat. EDIT: i think the knowledge orb also boost class exp but i could be wrong.
"make sure to no have skill that lets you attack bare handed because you will probably kill the enemy due to str stat" Just here to say that no actually, if you're barehanded with the skill that lets you attack bare-handed, you don't actually attack back. The skill only works on your turn it seems, not the opponent's turn.
@@Arkayjiya there is no counter but an atk on your turn will probably kill the enemy. also if no skill then you can't atk so the exp gain is halved. hence why i recommended a broken weapon.
@@damp2269 "but an atk on your turn will probably kill the enemy" Yeah it definitely will. But broken weapons will too, even with broken weapons, most unit one-shot the enemy pretty soon unless you're playing maddening. Broken weapons do work early game though.
@@Arkayjiya broken weapons get an accuracy penalty so some unit should miss. you can also use a bulky enemy, usually a miniboss on a heal tile. if you can one shot get a map with slightly higher lvl. at this point i think you are just trying to prove wrong for some reason, not sure why but it works.
@@damp2269 Not trying to prove anything wrong, just saying that in my experience it doesn't work well because everything dies way too fast (except in maddening now, that might work there), but you're right that if you really need the weapon experience, you don't have a choice anyway, broken weapon is the only way you can do that efficiently. If you just need class experience though, don't use broken weapons, use no weapon at all.
A certain recurring boss carries dark seals and you get them when you defeat them. So far, I've seen them 3 times, but the first time they are a bit hard to kill imo.
recruit the pink hair loli she’s a mage, her luna skill will reduce 60% of that certain enemy (who hold the dark seal) and if u lvl her up she gets an attack that pew pew enemies riding horses easily which is 1 hko to that shitty bastard and you just got your 3 dark seals
Is there an easy way to gain class xp for a character. My characters end up killing everything and if i give them broken weapons instead they get killed.
Can someone tell me why I and enemies can sometimes attack twice? I know that fist weapons automatically do this but sometimes I can do this with other weapons and I"m not seeing the pattern at all. I was able to do with with a mini bow but not the steel bow plus on one unit. Then on another I could do it with an iron lance and not the steel one.
A unit gets a double attack if it has 4 more AS (attack speed) than its opponent. Attack speed is based on the speed stat. Units attack speed is lowered by the Wt (weight) of their weapons and equipment, so its harder to get a double attack with a heavier steel lance than with a basic iron lance. Gauntlets and fists also get a free follow up attack, but not when defending. Hope this helps!
The master classes in this game are pretty disappointing imo. Defiant abilities are boring, And working up riding/flying/armor skills are a chore if the previous classes don't already have them. I'd have most of my units stay at advanced classes if not for the stat bonuses
@@Ketharuil i went blue lion so you could be right but just going by stats that DK RES could tank lysithea and then OHKO on the counter unless you grind.
You need to kill the Death Knight every chance you get. I got a total of 3 Dark Seals my first play through, but I didn't kill him every chance I could.
I found Poison strike to be INCREDIBLY useful against the bigger monsters in the game. If you use a poison strike character to kill a health bar on a monster, the poison is applied to the next health bar, making the next (and usually more dangerous health bar) easier to finish off.
Knowledge Gems double Class XP as well as skill XP. Highly recommended to use those A LOT.
Those?...how do u get more than one
@@wasbra I believe the 2nd is obtained in chapter 11 for preventing all the crest stones from being stolen. I know the first is in the Red Canyon Paralogue for Sothis in a chest
You can get a Dark seal every time the Death Knight shows up so you can get like 4 or 5 a playthrough.
You also can steal the seals if you aren't able to kill him
You need higher speed than him if i remember correctly
Any tips for blocking his 1HKO Counter from any range?
@@Beerpowered Gambit his life down until you can kill him. I think the first time you fight him there's nearby avoid tiles as well, so you can gamble on a ranged unit not getting hit.
@@robonoaware actually it isnt that hard if ur willing to grind a bit or reset for levelups. Just get ur byleth up to 15 spd and c in lances(which u would want anyway since so many master classes want it) knight peeler will half his health and then have anyone else use knightpeeler to finish him off.
The amount of renown needed to get class exp +1 is 2000, not 3000-whatever. The number you see on the statue itself is the TOTAL amount of renown needed to get to the bonus, not the amount that particular tier needs. You can confirm this by observing that the numbers decrease every time you buy an upgrade. In this way, every statue requires a total of 10,000 renown to fully restore.
yeah so basically you need 3700 from 0 upgrade.
@@7Sarutan7 No, it is only 2000, once you buy the first one for 200, the rest will drop by 200 so the required amount will be 300, 800, 1800. Then you spend 300 more and the numbers go to 500, 1500, etc.
Wanted to say this but saw it was already posted! Nice.
Renown buffs from the statues carry over to new game plus.
Slight correction on renown. U get them from quests, not just aux battles. So all that stuff u get to do each month exploring gets u that. Also, the renown needed is cumulative. Meaning u just need 2000 on that statue to get the first class mastery. Watch as u spend points the values go down
You get class exp for every engagement regardless of if you attacked or not, so to grind out class xp I'd trap an archer (surround all 4 tiles) and move the unit i want to grind within his range amd just keep letting them attack. Also on maps you can create a chokepoint where an enemy will always attack the same unit (unequip your weapon so you don't kill the enemy) when i set this up I've been able master 5 classes in one map.
wow this is super useful, im going to have to try this out
@@MRVN_V yup, also get the knowledge orbs, they also give 1 more skill point, so you can make it super fast
Exactly what i did. Grind up and save the battle quests for low level, low threat class exp grinds. Riding out a mission to turn 98 just to get those skills.
For any magic mastery I would recommend Ingrid map although that also sounds great (I love infinite reinforcements)
Also, depending on unit, Master Classes aren't the end all best classes. The Advanced classes are sometimes at least at parity with some, with exception for Sniper to Bow Knight. Gremory is female locked, meaning male mages best magic option is either Bishop, Dark Bishop, or Warlock.
Assassin is arguably better than swordmaster, based on the added movement and the fact that terrain impediments don't affect them, plus free lockpickers. There isn't any real good reason for Mortal Savant to exist, as magic has so few uses without magic type-use X2.
I feel like master classes in general weren't properly planned out and balanced. Great Knight feels like a direct upgrade for units already focusing on Heavy Armor, but the majority of them are mounted and feel too similar to matter.
Mortal Savant felix breaks the game. Kills everything in one range with swords doubles and high crit chance. has thunder to off high defense units and thoron for 3 range. He can also off heal but he should be killing things. Mortal Savant just isnt the end of the Male magic class line as a counterpoint to germory but as the end of the sword master line.
@@umbradens6129 Okay, but a forged bolt axe is 30 durability versus 6 tops and it is still 1-3 range. Still runs off magic stat, plus can use it regardless of class. A magic bow+ can also cover the gap if your willing to run Close Counter. Good option of bow knight, also does 1-3 range in that situation, still has decently high crit chance, still tears through armored units plus does okay against high resistance units like falcon knight due to bonus damage. Mortal savant looses out in mobility compared to any mount and in the case of great knight, a large amount of defense. Wyvern Lord/Falcon knight for maps that have foot hindrances, though you lean on raw avo more than defense/resistance. Axe/lancefaire in all those classes compare to Mortal Savant's swordfaire... Did I miss anything?
@@QwixLF mortal savant has a -10 speed growth, as opposed to an assasin/swordmaster's +20, if you needed more reason not to pick that class
@@hotachicken Such a sad thing because I love the concept and design. If weaponry use wasn't so free range, maybe it would have at least interesting to use.
Dark knight is great for end male magic users. Canto by itself is crazy
dude. that last recruit video was insanely useful. and this was awesome too. so informative. efficiently done. thanks!
Some really useful info here but the video could definitely do with some streamlining. Maybe a quick list at some point we can refer to ? Like after there all explained or something? Or a recap at end of video maybe?
After completing the game, here are my tips:
Mastery for Warmaster grants 2x attack for counters.
Mastery for wyvern rider (the advanced class not master), seal defence that -6 defence to anyone that you hit.
Luna the dark magic is absolutely broken, with a high level mage class can hit bosses for 70-80 damage without critical.
Bow accuracy falls off above 2 square range, no point max range sniping unless you are trying to not getting countered.
If you are playing on easy, get academy training for belyth for riding, magic, flying, heavy armour, ASAP. Once you can reclass into classes that uses those skills, you can grind it out in unlimited fights.
So far strongest classes I have found are: sword master(even compared to master classes, astra is ridiculous), Gremory, falcon knight and bow knight. Warmasters have low res and tend to die quickly to magic. Dragon masters don’t have much accuracy and die to arrows hard. Black and white knights suffers hard from riding weakness and is weaker on speed, if your Gremory have a magic flaire, there is no point using magic knight class once you get that skill at s+ rank.
Lystheria is by far imo the strongest magic user, followed by Mercedes.
Byleth is good for swords and bows but otherwise try Claude (if you are golden deer) or Felix/Catherine/Shamir.
Tanks can be anyone imo, Alios is alright, raphael is alright, they don’t make much of a difference.
Cyril should have a special mention if you build him right he excel at pretty much anything physical. Recommend a warmaster or a dragon master approach.
I have some points to add in grinding skill ranks/levels in unlimited battle or even regular battle.
Get one or two "training" weapons of each type and break them. Wear that on the character you want to grind on.
If you're lucky and got a battle map with a lot of trees, move your unit to it and make sure there are also trees in all 4 directions around that unit.
Press A on space without any unit and choose option, turn off "Automatic Cursor".
Now you can spam pressing A on empty space, end turn, then press + to skip enemy turn.
I don't know if there is "Retreat" option in hard mode but if there is, you can also do this.
If all the enemies are moving, be careful not to have them all killed, if there is an enemy not moving, you can relax and keep spamming.
Once there is only one unit left / you got to the point where you want to reclass or change unit to grind, go retreat and do everything all over again as much as you want.
You won't get rewards but your weapons and consumables will be replenished to how they were (if you used a weapon with durability remaining). A good way to keep the map you want too, since unlimited battle map is based on rng.
Have a ranged weapon in the unit's inventory too so they can kill the mages (and bow users) that can ruin the grind. Just don't put close counter ability on them if they have one. If you have goddess ring or prayer ring, equip one and you won't worry as much for your unit's health.
If you can assign adjutants, assign one to the unit you're grinding, they'll also gain skills and class mastery points, except "Authority", that is.
Astra actually sucks
I would love to see a video with some recommend class per character or even just some of the more desired characters
I like how the Dark Mage’s mastery ability is a reference to the enemy Dark Mages In Thracia.
Correction to the video: depending on your playthrough you can get at least 3 dark seals in a playthrough, and at most I think 4 or 5
Thats what i was thinking, i got 4 or 5.
You can get about five you just have to be able to beat the dark knight
@@squallrainhd9783 or steal them. Draw back and or recuse/warp are good if you can get them in time
A quick question do you keep the magic learned as a dark mage
@@MolecularFishStew No, as Miasma is a class skill. Only Lysithea and Hubert have dark magic outside of Dark Seal classes
I like how excited he is over wrath, because it is really good in this game, but in Thracia 776 it was even crazier, with a guarenteed crit whenever the unit counterattacked. The first character you get with wrath is named Orsin and with that skill, his personal axe the Pugi (though the most recent and complete translation refers to it as the Bhuj), and a Thracia only mechanic in the form of his x3 pursuit critical coefficient, he becomes the most reliably critting character in the series. As in, he is guaranteed to crit every counterattack and every enemy he doubles (and still has a really good 40% crit rate against those he doesn't) at base level starting in chapter 1 with a 1-2 range weapon.
NuclearUnicorn7 Cool story, but he’s excited because this is a Three Houses guide not a Thracia 776 guide, plus the fact most people are not going to play that game, so not quite sure what point you’re trying to make.
@@jroy97yt33 he was relating to that excitement and gave a small history lesson on the skill, dont be a killjoy my dude
@@jroy97yt33 the point was: if you think this is powerful well it used to be broken back in the day. for me that character was joshua, can remember the stats/equip but he would tear it at the coliseum. also Seth, he was broken.
It's actually only 2000 renown. It updates as you purchase levels and shows you how much you need to invest to get to that level. The final total to max one statue rewards is 10k renown.
You are able to collect a total of 4 dark stones through one playthrough, through your encounters with the death knight. You must kill him before he escapes or the battle ends by killing the commander first.
On missions with allies, I had to box in the enemy commander so the allies (Jeralt) wouldn't kill the commander before I could kill the death knight.
You can also steal it from him with a thief
Jeralt wont actually kill the commander in the remire village chapter if you just ignore him
There's a fifth if you have Caspar and Mercedes during a paralogue.
There are also some bonuses granted for leveling up certain skills to certain grades. For example if you level up brawling to B you will learn the Healing Focus combat art that cost 0 points to use. Which thrown on to a tank character with good defense and the Aegis ability makes them near unkillable. And if they do take damage they can heal back to full health in 2 turns tops.
I ALWAYS kill dark knight even when I don't need dark seals ;-;
I'm just getting xp
Is it just me or did he forget "miracle?"
Miracle sucks. When you have so many uses of Divine Pulse available, if you actually manage to get killed (which is hard to do unless you're playing like a madman), you can just turn back time and try something different.
The class masteries he lists here are also good on any class wether you are a healer, mage, or physical attacker. Only healers will bother learning Miracle so its not worth listing here
John Curry do u play on normal because I play on hard and killing him more than twice is way too much trouble
@@alexanderluna4598 On hard I didnt kill him the first time, but I killed the other 3 encounters I of. You can probably kill on normal with a bunch of gambits
I play on hard and still kill him ;-;
@@johncurry7225 Actually no since his Commander skill greatly reduces the amount of damage Gambits do
Killing the dark Knight gets you a dark seal every time he shows 4 or 5 times on the golden deer playthrough I'm on blue lions now doing ng plus
Aye they got ng plus?! Lmao that makes me even more happier with this game
on the first play through is almost impossible to get the first seal without some grinding which hard doesn't allow for.
You can get the seal as often as you beat the death knight
@@damp2269 just bumrush the dk with gambits, and then finish off with a powerful attack. I recommend Lysithea's Dark Spikes specifically
I suggest to Steak the dark seal
You can get a dark seal every time you defeat the Death Knight. Which is at least 2 battles. In part 1
I was gonna comment that, I have already 2 in part 1 so. It is limited but not one for playthrough
Defeat and death knight don;'t belong in the same sentence'
@@felipeisenglish killed him every battle he's showed up in so far. Mastered my first dark bishop before the battle of the eagle and lion in part 1
Did the same
I got it three times
An additional tip for speeding up class mastery that I've noticed while playing: If a character is equipped with a knowledge gem then that character will receive double class mastery exp when entering combat. Which means if you already have the Saint Cethleann buff then that character will gain 4 class exp points per combat encounter. Quadruple the progress!
It's specific to one unit but Lysithea will also double this for up to 8 per combat
@@iAmMuu Also Jeritza since he learns Mastermind when you boost his sword rank.
If you manage to find a Knowledge Gem ( i have 2 and do not remember where i got them) and equipped it you get x2 ability points meaning 4 (with statue buff bought) per engagement. it really speeds things up.
GalacticHeroEtna I got one as well
The first one i got was from a paralogue battle that involved sothis remebering somethign about the Zanado red canyon
that was map full of demonic beasts and byleth is surrounded at the beginning
@@cid3303 second one is on a chest on episode 11 i think.
A good way to quickly master classes is to equip a broken training weapon or magic the opponent is highly resistant to, and fight against an enemy that does 0 damage to you or has low chances of hitting with the knowledge ring equipped.
You can easily master a class or two per stage if you don't mind this. It's essentially the modern equivalent of attacking stationary units on a healing space with a bow to level them up.
Is this legit?!
@@ohyeahmrkrabs-yo2vv Yep. I got several characters to S+ weapon ranks and mastered Advanced Classes before Part 2.
@Arekkz Gaming The Knowledge Gem from the Chest on Sothis Red Canyon Paralouge gives increased skill gain.
Damn I miss it anyway to get it?
@@wasbra I got a second one from the chapter 11 story mission (Prevented nothing to be stolen). So I have 2 now.
Minor spoiler!
Dark Seals are actually rewarded each time you defeat the Death Knight, which as far as i recall is around 3 times.
Or you can just steal em with a thief :)
I had 4 on golden deer
stealing them is a lot easier
If I'm not mistaken, as long as you have someone with the steal ability on your team you can steal a dark seal from the death knight. You'll encounter him more than once on your playthrough, hence more than one dark seal
This. He's also technically killable multiple times and drops it multiple times. However the seal is largely useless imo, as both Dark Mage and Dark Bishop are locked to Male only, meaning that outside of Byleth and Hubert, (maybe Lindhart or Ignatz as well) the seal goes largely unused in a typical playthrough.
Just kill him with magic or a horse slayer lance.
@@Rosedragon15 also, hanneman is a very good Male mage (probably the only good one)
@@HibiscusPacific actually yeah Hanneman would work too. Didn't even think about that lol
Hubert is significantly better than Hanneman, but not recruitable outside of the Black Eagles.
Lynhardt has a better spell list than Hanneman in both black and white magic.
But yeah Hanneman is pretty good
Your best bet for taking out the DK the first time you see him is 2 fairly quick lancers (to avoid being doubled) using knight kneeler as that's pretty easy to get. Divine Pulse is your friend (if you miss, rewind, hit with someone else and then try again)
As someone that's playing on hard classic, taking the chance of running people with low life for dmg isn't worth it. So I'll always take the heals lol. Ferdinand is also stronger while at max hp, so I'm in the habit of topping off.
Lysithea with vantage, wrath, pavise, aegis, and dark magic range plus one in gremory with thrysus equipped (preferably with the sign that gives you Annette's crest ability
It's absolutely horrifying. Be glad it isn't plausible in a normal playthrough, as you have to get multiple classes that require skills she's weak in and THEN get her reason to S-rank.
@@youarenowbreathingmanually2798 it's mostly my plan for Lunatic (fear the deer)
Close counter is really useful as well
This was very helpful! I've only gone into the skills menu once... there was ALOT to switch around let's just say that lol
9:55
Close Counter (Archer Mastery): "Am I a joke to you?"
Yes, I'm a Golden Deer boi and I am glad to give Clod the skill *Close Counter*
Close counter isn't the skill for mastering the Archer class. You get that skill for having bow rank C, and you get hit +20 for mastering the Archer class.
Renewal from the bishop class has been a lifesaver for me
This is probably being typed already but you can actually get three dark seals per playthrough. Youre more like to get two though because the first one is almost impossible to do in my experience.
I beat the odds and got the first one
If you’re referring to a certain hard to kill character you can just steal it off him, no need to fight.
Really? Because i tried exactly that and the steal option wasnt available
@@binra777 exact same issue and idk why i cant.
@@binra777 Which map? I didn't have a thief for first 2 times he appeared but third time I think it was I got not problem doing that
Kinda forgot to mention the knowledge Gem since it doubles weapon and class experience
A quick correction, the Dark Seal you need for Dark Mage and Dark Bishop classes can be acquired multiple times during a play through. The requirement is defeating the Death Knight, which early on requires you to ether over level or throw your whole team at him for a shot. But it can drop every time he is defeated.
Or you can Steal it! Don't even need to enter combat!
Me, having just recently started playing FE3H and seeing Arekkz making tips videos about it: *OH THANK GOD*
Personally I'm not a fan of using skills that require being below 50% health. Usually I find it to be much more work than it is worth to get activated.
There are weapons like the Devil Sword which lower HP each time they're used in combat, or you can give Divine Relics to any unit without a crest.
Its worth mentioning that Lysithea's ability grants her extra class exp, so - along with the saint statue bonus she is pretty ridiculous. Not to mention she already hits like a truck but with the right mastery skills she could easily be a monster far quicker than anyone else.
i thought her unique only provided regular exp. r u sure about this? i haven't recruited her yet.
@@damp2269 it's class and weapon xp I believe, but I know for sure it isnt regular exp.
I’ve gotten two dark seals in my campaign so far
You can get several if you kill the skeleton knight each time you meet him.
Yeah I have 3 so far myself. Got 1 character to a Dark Bishop already and have a spare seal in case I want another character to be a dark mage.
its a shame the classes r locked to male only makes it rough for the blue lions to get one q.q
Mugen Sega I ended up just using Hanneman after I recruited him
@@MugenTzega both Felix and Sylvain make great mage classes. Mine are a mortal savant and dark Knight respectively.
He totally missed an item sparkle at 9:47.
Would you consider the next video being about the best way to maximize Character or Classes abilities equipped? Great content by the way.
Go into an auxiliary battle and equip a broken/rusted weapon and stand in forest tiles so you won't kill enemies.
Every time a unit is in battle their class EXP increases, so you could also just unequip weapons if you don't want the big avo/AS penalty.
However you need to attack in order to boost weapon EXP, and damage enemies to get regular EXP. You'll also get Authority as long as you have a battalion with an endurance above 0, and Armored/Mounted EXP if you're in a class that has those attributes.
No mention about some mastery skills not working when you switch to other classes? Assassinate is class exclusive
He actually said it in the beginning. He said it's better to get the skill instead of combat abilities cause some combat abilities are class exclusives. So Assassinate... combat ability mastery,.... lethality..... skill mastery.
You can get multiple dark seals per playthrough (as the source of that will have one each encounter).
I don't think he played the game very much
In the right build, Reposition/Hit and Run/Swap/Pivot are also very effective
Give your units rusted weapons. Makes units fight more often to grind mastery and skills. Also you don't use up a bunch of weapons durability. Just be careful your units don't die since rusted weapons make your characters pretty weak.
Interesting idea, I've never even thought of that. I'm going to go ahead and try this right now.
@@chapchap8853 no the point is you want to be in more fights. So rusted weapons slow your units enough that they don't double attack. So it takes 2-3 fights to take out one enemy. It's slow and grindy. But works.
Any Brawler can survive easily thanks to Healing Focus.
I also give my units Battalions that boost Avo, Prt and/or Rsl, but lower attack.
It's also a good idea to utilize forest and heal tiles.
As far as getting more Dark Seals, getting a character high enough to steal can be a bit of work depending, you only really need 2 dark seals (it’s fun to kill him at every opportunity but Hubert and Lorenz are the only go to candidates, with Felix lagging behind due to being a beast if he focuses on swords and you get the Aegis from his paralogue).
That said, if you get access to Luna he’s much more killable, I had Lysithea finish him after setup gambits with ease.
Vantage, Wrath, Defiant Crit, Defiant Avo, filler. Maybe a X Mastery or Movement +1. Axefaire from Great Knight class skill to boost a forged Bolt Axe, plus Canto. With a particular paralogue giving a free permanent +1 move, that's 10 movement, 15 if affected by stride battalion. Can by Wyvenn Lord, but being weak to bows without a particular equip item makes it risky in some situations. Maybe have both unlocked and switch based on map.
which paralougr gives you plus 1 speed?9
Just watch out for enemy battalions
Along with the fact that there is more than one dark seal, the amount of class xp you get is based on the weapon. Some of the classes with multiple weapons will give more for a particular weapon
Whoa! I did not know about those statues...
Keep these useful videos coming.
Dark mage/Dark Bishop seals come from the death knight which you fight him twice in part one. The dark mage is a male only class
Actually 4 times.
For those who want an easy win against the death knight, train up Lysithea's reason to B. She'll learn dark spikes which is a spell that's effective against cavalry units. Its a sure kill against the death knight.
Vantage and wrath are really good
Defiant skills are pretty bad, the strength, mag, and crit ones are ok but you should not be relying on this
Poison strike and lifetaker are really weak minor boosts
The offensive blows are really good (Death, Fiendish, Darting)
Lethality is bad but if you're going assassin for the great speed stat it's fine to pick up
Quick Riposte is really good but it's from a master level class so you won't be able to use it much unless you play in normal or ng+ and spam battles
Aegis and Pavise are really overrated unless if you aren't good at playing strategically. Fortress Knight is also a very bad class so don't force yourself to go through that.
The mastery skills in general aren't worth grinding for except maybe Vantage and the offensive blows. A missed mastery that was better than most of the ones in this list was Desperation from Cavalier
Thanks, a great and useful comment lost in the middle of so many terrible ones.
I'm pretty sure he never tested the skills he's talking about, he just went through a list of them and picked the ones which sounded cool.
@@xakuray5522 glad I could help :)
uhmmmm so far my Deude in Fortress armor + aegis shield is unkilable.
@William E i know, i was addressing the fortress knight being a bad class comment.
the seal abilities are probably top tier
you can get more than 1 dark seal, just by stealing it from that "skull dark cavalier" as many times as he appears in each battle. So you need a thief for it. I have stolen 2 so far. You can defeat him in order to take the dark seal, but it's way much easier to steal it from him, and just use a technique of reposition with another unit, to save the thief from death.
Oh shit good looks dodnt think of this, playing on hard so ion even wanna get close to death knight the first 2 encounters
what's a technique of reposition with another unit? i can only think of Warp. are there other ones? thanks!
@@Annihilaped these active skills like "shove", "draw back" or "reposition", soldiers, mages or fighters should have these combat arts or whatever they're called
@@harelreisel ooh ok! i dont know about those yet. i'll look into it and see how to get them, lol.. THANKS!!
correction for 9:20, the renown costs are listed as total, not cumulative
If you use the knowledge gem and you have the exp +1 you can get 4 class exp per fight instead of 2 i just mastered a wyvern rider from 60 to 0 in one match. Very useful to quickly master classes up on the non activity point battles since you can keep doing them over and over without moving forward in the story line.
That means you are playing on normal difficulty since 0 activity points battles aren't a thing in Hard mode
You can actually get infinite dark seals from the dark shop that appears near the end of the game. I'm not sure when it pops up but it's around the same time as unlocking the secret shop.
Actually, you can get at least 3 Dark Seals depending on your route. All you need to do is
*minor spoilers*
Use a Thief to steal it off the Dark Knight every time you encounter him. In total, I got 3 encounters.
Why steal it just kill him hes not that hard lol
@@ziegfeld4131 whaddaya mean its not that hard? are you playing Normal because Hard with the Death Knight is a pain in the ass. Doubles you and has high accuracy
zieg feld Well, I personally found it easier to steal it off him. Killing him is, in my opinion, the harder option.
Dark Seals (Promotion item for dark mages/ bishop) can be stolen from the death knight by killing him or stealing it anytime he appears.
(Holy Mausoleum, Underground Chamber, and Battle of Garreg Mach is when the Death Knight appears pre time skip.)
And remire
KEEP THEM COMING!!!
well on normal mode, u could always grind by repeating battles...
You get a dark seal every time you fight the Death Knight. He does become relatively harder the more you meet him. Getting the 3rd one was an actual bitch.
You can get several dark seals. Every time you encounter death knight you can one by stealing or beating him and you will keep encountering him several times
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Mind making a guide on what u get on new game plus and if someone else knows pls reply and let me kno what u keep on new game plus
You only keep renown and whatever stature upgrades you have. BUT in new game+ you get the opportunity to buy stuff like professor level, supports, skill levels, and mastery skills you have already unlocked by using renown.
2nd video I have seen where you have listed wrong information. I don't think you understand this game enough
So if I get wrath with Petra and a killing edge she basically has a 100 % crit
Better yet, turn all your Killing Edges into Wo Dao+'s
Yoo! Vest, you are a beacon of FE knowledge. Thanks for the great info man.
Btw, you can get at least 3 Dark Seals for the dark magic class certifications
God I hate the Vantage/Wrath/Defiant skills, maybe it would be actually useful on Maddening, but on Hard my units are basically 100% HP by the end of every single player phase, and if they aren't, I'm getting them as far away from enemies as possible
PSA. so i did a pretty dumb thing lat night playing. the games tells you that characters without crest could die from using relics and i thought it was a lore thing but it is a mechanic. i got the aegis shield (which i didn't notice it was a relic cuz i'm dumb) and of course i gave it to Dedue because tank + more tankiness + resistance equals immortal but then i notice he takes 10 dmg every time he goes in combat (this would be in addition to normal dmg but this is Dedue we are talking about here...). anyhow took me like 2 hours of going through all his stats/abilities/inventory until i found out. still if you put a healer next to him 10 dmg is ok considering you have an immortal on your side (make that healer be Anette and have her use rally when not healing and he is unstoppable.
If you pay attention, Miklan actually takes damage each time he enters combat, since he's using a divine relic without a crest.
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I missed one my first playthrough but if you grind aux battles for 30 mins you’ll be good
you can get a dark seal every time you find a certain enemy on horseback and defeat it, 4 times I believe
My first blind play through on hard I was able to get 2.
You don't even need to defeat him. If you have a thief with high enough speed you can steal it. Which is good since he is a beast
Theory crafted a vantage/wrath/desperation/close counter bow knighy felix, he should be able to hot anything at any range when attacked, I think he can still be hit by battalions, as they can't be countered in ant way.
Actually, if your paying attention to the death knight he actually drops some in one or two maybe more of the your encounters with him. Cause i had two dark seals before the time skip happened.
He appears 4 times in Part 1: the Chapter where you get the Sword of the Creator, when you rescue Flayn, Remire Village, and Chapter 12.
Can you maybe do a video about what each of the stats (dex, charm etc) does? Especially since three houses introduced the charm skill and I'm not sure myself what is it for except for dancers.
for some reason my Lysithea (mainly magic classes) activates Pavise even without the skill.
Mine does, too. I have her equipped with a relic that provides her with increased magic range and a chance to proc pavise/aegis I believe.
You could also have a shielding adjutant.
Matt H Ah yes. The one that says reduce damage haha my bad didnt realize that would equate to pavise/aegis
Stephen Smith Its Thrysus. Plus Lysithea doesnt really need an adjutant.
My question is, Should i go for every character for a Master class an are there enough Advanced Seals or should i stay in lower Classes for some because it is better for them
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Later in the game you can buy infinite master seals from Anna.
As for your question, the answer is yes, save for pure healers and assassins.
Pure healers are units that, for stat related purposes (usually crappy speed or magic) are fundamentally useless as offensive units (save for killing armored enemies, which are walking targets for any magic class in the game anyway). There's an advanced class specialized in healing which gives some useful abilities, if you were to promote a pure healer to a master class like gremory or holy knight you would loose some of those benefits while obtaining some pointless buffs for its role. As for assassins, no master class needs a proficiency in both bows and swords, and none has the picklocking ability that makes most maps with chests a breeze.
Female magicians go-to master class is gremory because it's a good all rounder class, and usually most magicians are skilled in both light and black magic. That being said the classes dark/holy knight are pretty good for offensive oriented magicians, with the holy knight terrain effect negation being pretty good. The lance/riding grades needed however make them a pain in the ass, save for hubert which has an hidden talent in lance that gets him a magic based attack, all the other characters need to train in school for those grades because in no way they would be able to learn them in battle, since previous horse classes can't use magic (you wouldn't bother classing a magician as an horse rider untill they reach the master class).
Long story short, to get magic riders, once you reach level 20 and promote to an advanced class, start to teach them lance/riding shit asap.
Same story for bow users. Bow knights are fucking cool.
For melee fighters it's kinda easier.
Armored units ->armored knights. They loose a ton of defensive power in the transition, however there are plenty of battles in the game where movement is far more important than tanking capabilities.
Sword users->magic samurai (forgot the name)
Wyvern/pegasus advanced versions -> wyvern/pegasus master versions
Brawlers -> Grappler.
@@avaman1993 thx, that was really helpful.
Ive only played blue lion so I cant help all of that much .... But one person for blue lion is ashe being a bow knight.... Eairly game he is trash... But what he brings late game is so broken you cant stop him.... He supports both fronts in all my battles do to his speed and range and by the time they meet up ive distroyed his bows.... Ussing annete as a dancer allowed for my tank dudue to stay in the frount lines without risking the upgrade for speed for defence.... And the healer is just better remain a bishop... With the cost of repairs from dudue and ashe weapions plus the lovely prince.... It cost to much money to buy the upgrades you could use on others
it actually only requires 2k renown since the listed cost is cumulative, not additive
i'm sure most people know about this but in case someone doesn't know.... like the video said you don;t need to hit to gain class xp so finding a slightly weak enemy surround him/her with unit with broken weapons and enjoy free class xp for a few rounds. is cheesy and tedious but if you want the skills.... having no weapon equipped works too since the enmy will attack you but attacking speeds up the process and make sure to no have skill that lets you attack bare handed because you will probably kill the enemy due to str stat.
EDIT: i think the knowledge orb also boost class exp but i could be wrong.
"make sure to no have skill that lets you attack bare handed because you will probably kill the enemy due to str stat"
Just here to say that no actually, if you're barehanded with the skill that lets you attack bare-handed, you don't actually attack back. The skill only works on your turn it seems, not the opponent's turn.
@@Arkayjiya there is no counter but an atk on your turn will probably kill the enemy. also if no skill then you can't atk so the exp gain is halved. hence why i recommended a broken weapon.
@@damp2269 "but an atk on your turn will probably kill the enemy"
Yeah it definitely will. But broken weapons will too, even with broken weapons, most unit one-shot the enemy pretty soon unless you're playing maddening. Broken weapons do work early game though.
@@Arkayjiya broken weapons get an accuracy penalty so some unit should miss. you can also use a bulky enemy, usually a miniboss on a heal tile. if you can one shot get a map with slightly higher lvl.
at this point i think you are just trying to prove wrong for some reason, not sure why but it works.
@@damp2269 Not trying to prove anything wrong, just saying that in my experience it doesn't work well because everything dies way too fast (except in maddening now, that might work there), but you're right that if you really need the weapon experience, you don't have a choice anyway, broken weapon is the only way you can do that efficiently.
If you just need class experience though, don't use broken weapons, use no weapon at all.
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you can get 4 of the items to become a dark mage.
Are getting ur student to master class worth it cause I like my student in their advanced classes and what class will byleth use ?
A certain recurring boss carries dark seals and you get them when you defeat them. So far, I've seen them 3 times, but the first time they are a bit hard to kill imo.
recruit the pink hair loli she’s a mage, her luna skill will reduce 60% of that certain enemy (who hold the dark seal) and if u lvl her up she gets an attack that pew pew enemies riding horses easily which is 1 hko to that shitty bastard and you just got your 3 dark seals
It really, REALLY sucks that you can only buy Renown unlocks in order, instead of just being able to pick what you want. I hate that.
5 dark seals for the 3 normal routes. 3 dark seals for secret route
Pronounced EE jis. :p Thanks for the video!
Can you just go over classes?
Is there an easy way to gain class xp for a character. My characters end up killing everything and if i give them broken weapons instead they get killed.
Can someone tell me why I and enemies can sometimes attack twice? I know that fist weapons automatically do this but sometimes I can do this with other weapons and I"m not seeing the pattern at all. I was able to do with with a mini bow but not the steel bow plus on one unit. Then on another I could do it with an iron lance and not the steel one.
A unit gets a double attack if it has 4 more AS (attack speed) than its opponent. Attack speed is based on the speed stat. Units attack speed is lowered by the Wt (weight) of their weapons and equipment, so its harder to get a double attack with a heavier steel lance than with a basic iron lance. Gauntlets and fists also get a free follow up attack, but not when defending. Hope this helps!
The master classes in this game are pretty disappointing imo. Defiant abilities are boring, And working up riding/flying/armor skills are a chore if the previous classes don't already have them. I'd have most of my units stay at advanced classes if not for the stat bonuses
What class has desperation as a mastery ability?
If you beat the deathknight in the early chapters he will drop a dark seal each time
The death knight always drop a dark seal I believe.
kinda hard to beat the first one on the first play through no grinding.
@@damp2269 Lysithea would care to disagree.
@@Ketharuil i went blue lion so you could be right but just going by stats that DK RES could tank lysithea and then OHKO on the counter unless you grind.
@@damp2269 she gets dark spikes at c rank reason. So nope. She kills him on hard.
@@Ketharuil again haven't played with her house yet but C rank seems high for the first encounter with no grinding.
You need to kill the Death Knight every chance you get. I got a total of 3 Dark Seals my first play through, but I didn't kill him every chance I could.
People keep telling me friendish strike is better than poisonous strike
Just got pavise and aigis on Byleth with vantage and the enlightened one mastery skill should I get renewal for unkillable support
Defiant Avo is better imo, and you can combine it with other low HP skills
Why use poison strike when your cutting and one shotting
I found Poison strike to be INCREDIBLY useful against the bigger monsters in the game. If you use a poison strike character to kill a health bar on a monster, the poison is applied to the next health bar, making the next (and usually more dangerous health bar) easier to finish off.