Reaction to NIGHTWISH - The Poet And The Pendulum (OFFICIAL LIVE)
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2023
- Reaction to NIGHTWISH - The Poet And The Pendulum (OFFICIAL LIVE)
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Recorded with Anette on the Dark Pasion Play album of 2007. It's basically about Tuomas' feelings of depression caused by the huge fan backlash after letting Tarja go. Even the Finnish Prime Minister made a comment on the situation. It takes inspiration from Poe's The Pit and the Pendulum. It is a hugely personal song for him. Tuomas would often have the sound guys remove the vocals from his in ears. Floor wanted to take over all the operatic parts, but Tuomas wanted to keep the boy soprano at the beginning.
At the beginning you see Emppu go ask Tuomas how he is doing. At the end ,Emppu and Marko go over to him in a show of support. Floor even looks over to him before saying, Thank You.
The lyrics in the last section are some of the words Tuomas' mother said to him when he went home.
Only those involved know for sure exactly what happened, and they have all moved past this. The song is no longer played live.
Thank you 💖
Good thing floor fixed the song whit her voice :)
@@PandoraPlaysMusic Hi Pandora. Are you finally coming back to Epica?? 🙂
Please react to "Unleashed" Live at the AFAS Live. It's from 2023 and Simone's gorgeous soprano sounds better than ever! I promise!
It's a spectacular performance, a beautiful audio-visual experience.
This video is all about Tuomas and the band. Notice that the audience was only shown twice, at the beginning of the song, and not again. This tour ended the performing of this masterpiece. Floor was certainly the reason for that. Her "Thank you" at the end of a chapter, as it was.
i've commented this to others before, but this always makes me grateful... grateful that Tuomas chose life over the darkness and chose to go on. in those moments, he had no idea Floor and even greater heights for himself both in the band and personally, were coming. Sometimes, it is darkest before the dawn...
Correct, except He knew Floor since the early 2000's. Floor and After Forever toured with Nightwish in 2002. She and the Band became good friends and she went to multiple concerts through the years. That's why when Anette was fired, Tuomas said that Floor was his only choice. If she had said No, I don't know what would have happened. There is a interview of Floor and Tuomas in 2015, when he states this. Interviews on UA-cam Nightwish at Linea Rock 2015 with Barbara Caserta.
@@MOON-SHADOW I understand they knew each other, well, but at the time of this song he didn't know she would join the band and all that would come from that... that was my point. :)
Lovely reaction! This is Tuomas's most personal and emotional song. It is also very personal and emotional for most fans. In 2005 the band had reached a breaking point with their first lead singer, Tarja. Things between her, her husband/manager and the band had been deteriorating for some time and had reached the point where they could no longer work together. The band decided to fire her, which they did via an open letter, right after the End of an Era concert. Tarja responded with her own open letter explaining her side of things. Both letters are available on the Internet. The backlash against the band, but mostly against Tuomas, was massive and very nasty. Tuomas felt betrayed by Nightwish's fans and sank into a deep depression. He wrote this song as way of expressing and exploring all of the emotions of that time. I highly recommend you read the analysis of this song by the artist Annika Hausen. IMO it is a brilliant, master's level analysis and I think you would really enjoy it. It really dives deep into the lyrics and all the literary and psychological allusions. I would provide a link but every time I do the YT algorithms delete my comment. Just google her name and Poet and the Pendulum.
The last part of the song, Mother and Father, gets me every time. The lyrics are actual words spoken by his parents during the depths of his depression, not allusions or praise for God. Floor perfectly channeling the pain and anguish of a mother who has lost her child. I get weepy every time. Then the words, In the Beginning, signaling the birth of a new version of Nightwish.
This is my favorite Nightwish song, mainly for the emotional connection to Tuomas that it evokes in me. I am so grateful that he chose to write this song and share this part of himself with us. Everything about this song and performance is all about creating the emotion.
Thank you!
An incredible journey. Amazing
Great reaction. I love the way Marko and Emppu move close to Tuomas at the end of the song as if to support him and how Floor looks at him tenderly for a long time after the song has finished. - For your interest, you could look online at the band's open letter, which they unexpectedly handed over to Tarja in the back room after the 2005 concert in Helsinki. In the letter, they said that Tarja has been fired from Nightwish and explained the reasons for that. And Tarja's open letter a little later, where she talked about her feelings and answered the accusations. (Open Letter to Tarja Turunen, Open Letter from Tarja Turunen)
Well..No one here in Finland thinks that Tuomas had some love feelings to Tarja. They were friends and bandmates. Tarja and that Yoko Ono-man Marcelo just gettin greedy and IMO it was Marcelo who changed Tarja too much..
I think all, if not most of us believe this, that it was Marcelo's jealousy the reason why Tarja, at some point found herself stuck between her long time friend and her husband. Ultimately, Marcelo swept her away, and we were left with this heartbreakingly beautiful song
The brilliance, nuance and mastery of Tuomas’ songwriting and lyrics never ceases to amaze me. If you run a timer from where he says “I have 3 minutes and counting “ it is at 3 minutes when he simulates with his hand the pendulum cutting his throat. Amazing!🤘🤘
3 minutes, the antipathy Tuomas has for the pop single.
What a lovely reaction! That sad look on your face and those lips firmly pressed onto each other almost broke my heart 💔. So, I am sending you a big and intense hug. Despite being only a virtual one I hope you really can feel it, at least a little bit. You are not alone!
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You, Pandora, chose the hardest possible way to react to this song in first reading the lyrics, then listening. Saw your held-back tears, albeit blurred, through mine. This utterly beautiful song is so non-cushioned emotional it just bites into the heart of the expecting, let alone the non-expecting, listener...
Awesome reaction and analysis as always! Please keep the Nightwish reactions coming!
Hi, very beautiful reaction, thank you
Your analyses, as usual, are thought-provoking--and deeper than most. Many thanks. Yet again.
Magnificent reaction, one of the best, you feel it, thanks.
What a wonderful reaction! This is such an amazing piece of art, written from such a vulnerable place. And Floor was born to express the emotions of Tuomas.
7:02 My goodness Pandora, the way you recite the lyric, the poem, makes the song even more intense. It is a journey, an emotional rollercoaster, though I didn't know that Tarja's nickname was "Angel"
So ein fantastischer Song. Dank..
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This is an incredibly epic song. Thank you for reacting to it. 👍😊
this is such a great reaction this song was not written for floor but she was the only one that could bring this song to its true florish en how it was ment to be brought ty for this great reaction❤
🇬🇧 Norfolk: who else but Tuomas could say I only have three seconds and counting then exactly three minutes to the second the blade falls .
Masterpiece!
The riff Marco is playing in his solo without looking is mind blowing .
Love the way the band looks out for Tuomas during this performance 😊
Listened to this many times, but God, just you reading the lyrics with all that emotion already got my tears going..!!
Thanks! Finally you did this. :-)
this song is the best 5 Stages of Grief workshop anyone can find!!
Thank you for doing research on this song before reacting to it. It's a necessity to understand not only the song but also the performance.
I'm a 57yo German and very settled in life but each and every time I get to Floor's "be still my son, you're home" I literally dissolve in a puddle of tears. So, you're not the only one being impacted in a major way.
You've got a new subscriber of your channel.
This is my favorite Nightwish song and your reaction was one of the best I've seen to it! I'm a Christian myself, so I appreciated your take on the biblical references and the ending of the song as well.
incredible in all domains. a master piece. no more word to add, just listen and let's all package take you in another dimension.
Well said.
You have a beautiful heart, sister. Much love.
hi Pandora! you are such a fun reactor!
At the very end you speak about the "tapestry of life" which is a perfect bridge to "Nightwish - The greatest show on earth" to react next to 😃
The song is a journey from the very beginning of the solar system, building planets including earth at some point to the very first signs of life on this planet and it ends with the ending of humanity and the beginning of a new age that we still not aware of how it will be. It includes a very small part of the "evolution of music" where you can hear some references to Bach, Metallica, techno and maybe some more that I forgot. Also the song has some spoken reference lines from Richard Dawkins.
Two versions out there: Live at Tampere: Finland, stadium, home of Nightwish, with fireworks and a few very rare instruments (in Nightwish songs) played by Troy and my personal favourite. Mostly because of the fireworks and the instruments that Troy plays there. Also the visuals on the screens in the back are better (or at least better to see) in this version and as usual they have a connection to the meaning of the song. All Dawkins references come from tape but the show is better imo.
And live at Wembley: Inside venue so no fireworks, the instruments from the Tampere version are replaced by an e-bow played guitar and in the end the last quotes of Richard Dawkins are no quotes but actually spoken by himself on stage.
To get the best out of both parts maybe you should watch Tampere first and then the E-bow guitar part and the ending with Richard Dawkins again afterwards.
Anyways loved your reaction to Poet and the pendulum and hope to see you soon react to the greatest show on earth.
All the best neighbour ... greetings from Germany 😊
Wow, you're reading of the lyrics was something else, I had goosebumps pretty much beginning to the end - just a wonderful reaction, you have such empathy and insight - thanks for doing this 🤘
For this particular song your style of going through the lyrics before hearing the song worked very well!
This one hits so much harder when you have an idea about the story.
I agree ❤️
What an epic and emotional work of art. Loved this and all of your reactions.
excellent work in this reaction and deep analysis of a song that does not have the place in music it deserves, the path, the lyrics and the music fused to those two great voices make this song a work of art, but the time You took the time to investigate the reason for this song, first read the lyrics and then listen to the entire song, more obviously all the feeling that you mention about the song and about Thoumas, they do without a doubt an excellent job on your part, congratulations for your good work .
The ray of sun in the end ("the beginning") - is a great pushing force force to all desperate human beings. This has literally saved lives of those who were making their final and wrong solutions...
Hearing their pain composed as music and finding out that theil feelings are not unique. Leaving the message that life goes on after trauma, divorce, losing a loved one.
amazing song amazing reaction🥰
Another packet of tissues are needed we think.
A beautiful reaction, thank you. Maybe you would like to check out some "Auri" Tuomas' project together with this wife Johanna Kurkela and Troy from Nightwish. Johanna's voice has such hopefull lightness to it.. Perhaps the Scrooge McDuck song..? Here's me hoping you'll do a reaction 😉
ok my summer love Pandora here we go again tissues are ready 🐕❤love ya
Great reaction Beautiful Pandora
Wonderful reaction to a stellar composition and performance! In the Wembley show that this video is from, there is also a display of some setlist construction mastery. This song is preceded by 'Alpenglow' which is among Nightwish's happiest songs. Then, the utter despair of 'Poet' is followed by 'Nemo', a huge crowd favorite. The emotional bandwidth experienced over that 20+ minutes in the middle of the show is striking, and definitely worth a watch. Thanks for the heartfelt reaction! We've all been there.
This is perhaps the most impressive song of all time. I can feel that pain he suffered but also that healing. He is such a music writer and composer. He is our metal Mozart. Thank you Pandora for this beautiful reaction video 🤘😊
Great reaction 🤗🇫🇮
Cool background information.
How about more Therion? Adulruna Rediviva live from Budapest 2007, or Typhon from the same event.
Loved the reaction, and just glad Tuomas continued on with Nightwish.
Such a heartfelt song. Gets me every time.
You can fall in love, that's OK, you can love someone who don't love you hard but it's OK, the only thing you can't do it's forget the people who be with you in the bad /good ones, we need to keep touching the ground no matter how big do you think you are
Hey beautyfull!!! There's not much to say. Amazing!!!! There are two facts. The song is great, and the tears are normal if you have a heart and a soul. Great reaction!!! Thanks. Greettings from Argentina
Always great and special,your reactions...Big thanks👌
I strongly digress about the idea in the foreword that the last part is about any god. Tuomas is very much secular and those are mostly the actual words of his actual parents.
That's completely fair. I wonder if he talks about the song in an interview somewhere? I'd love to watch that!
While I agree, the last movement is more about words his mother spoke to him while he secluded himself at their home, which inspired him to move forward, secular is not atheistic. There are references to God in other parts of this song and others.
@@kentk2215 Yes but those are literary references, not religious. Tuomas has made his feelings on religion quite clear in interviews and songs like Weak Fantasy and Tribal. If you go back to The Carpenter from their first album you can see Tuomas questioning religion. I don't think I have ever heard him call himself an atheist but he is at best agnostic and highly skeptical.
@@rnowak85 I have to disagree, in part. “I have but two faces. One for the world, and one for God” is not a literary reference. He has also written of heaven and God in non-literary terms in the past. He has indeed been very clear on his thoughts towards religion, as a man-made entity, but I would not say less so on spirituality, and the possible existence of God. He has been quoted that he does not even consider religion to be bad, but rather the human interpretation of it. He has also said in the past, that he believes himself to be a “spiritual person”, whatever that may mean. His secular stance seems to be, “I don’t know”, and he will believe in what science can tell us, “until we know better” and he won’t be adhering to any religion in the meantime. Certainly, one can still believe in a higher power and not be religious in any way.
We are never truly alone, we are truly all-one. Beautiful reaction.
How I wish that were the case.
Great reaction, ii's a brilliant composition!
🤗🍒🤘🏻😘 well done and good to have you back!!
The fact that Tuomas was ever in love with Tarja will probably always remain a rumor, because as far as I know, no one involved has commented on it.
I stick to confirmed facts. Tarja was fired because she was increasingly under the influence of Marcello and did not attend rehearsals or travel with the band. She also said that she didn't need the band anymore and that the upcoming album would be the last one for her with Nightwish. When she finally demanded that the band cancel a sold-out concert because she had to rehearse for a solo concert, it was finally enough and she was fired.
The shitstorm that now broke over Tuomas from the Tarja fans plunged him into severe depression and he even thought about suicide. But in order not to actually commit it, he wrote this song and committed suicide in it.
That's very heartbreaking
@@PandoraPlaysMusic As far as I have noticed, there has been a reconciliation in the meantime, in which Floor has probably contributed a large part to it (she is good friends with Tarja). Recently, even Marko played Phantom of the Opera with Tarja live on stage again.
Bye Bye Beautiful and the Poet and the Pendulum have been removed from the setlist forever.
@@Kelsea-2002 Wow, I'm not surprised somehow. Floor is such a beautiful human.
I liked your reaction, I had a similar one when I first heard the piece. Greetings :)
Hola, Pandora...me gusta tu camiseta con las constelaciones de estrellas !!
When you're were saying the meaning of the song it sounds like a podcast
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"The end........ The beginning"
And Helluwa Lot in between!
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Can I give you a virtuel hug...you seems to need it...
As always, your words give some meaning to the scene played out before you.
I hope mid-winter is treating you well.
Lovely to see you again, Randall ❤️
@@PandoraPlaysMusic Long stories are long. Too many things to repair and figure out... over and over. Now it's back to getting ready for the rains.
Oh, I did figure out that yard-long green beans grow as advertised, but still do not taste like Romanos. And finally came up with a 'fence' that the deer do not try to jump.. the secret is 'make it invisible, so they run into it before they try to jump.
Hearts
Hopefully one day they'll perform it again .
Hi Pandora; Maby the story is much more complicated than said here. Unfortunately there are 2 camps here; 1= Tuomas was in love with Tarja 2=( This is in the letter they wrote as a band to her) Tarja behaved like a DIVA . This is ofcourse short versions of the whole story. All this GOD stuff,i know Tuomas is at least agnostic or maby even a athëist and uses god references more as a metaphor. "The greatest show on earth and weak fantasy" give maby more a insight of tuomas and as i understand also the other band members how they think about religion , it surely are not songs that "glorify"any religion or gods.😉🤘
Yeah, whoever she got this backstory from, It's clear what camp thay were in.
Great reaction. One thing I love about Tuomas is that he became depressed and was able to turn that pain into a masterpiece, but when he got happy again he was also able to turn his joy into a masterpiece! I'm sure you'll get to _The_ _Greatest_ _Show_ _On_ _Earth_ sometime. Also, I've said it before, but your lyrics-first style is very well suited to reacting to _Last_ _Ride_ _of_ _the_ _Day_ (Wacken or Masters of Rock would be my picks) - the lyrics are amazing, but are often overlooked because of the music.
Regarding Tuomas and Tarja, not everyone thinks he had romantic feelings for her. She was certainly his muse, and he certainly loved her; but evidence is ambiguous on what type of love was involved. For instance, I believe he has given a different story concerning the origins of _Wish_ _I_ _Had_ _An_ _Angel,_ one which actually makes it a less uncomfortable listen (at least for me).
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Here is part of the lyrics on the demo version of the song, that were not on the final/album version. Vocals by Marko alone, because it was the time between Tarja and Anette: "Would you like to rape my rotting carcass? Dissect my heart. And desecrate my rest. It would make you come, wouldn't it?"
There are some other minor but interesting differencies in the lyrics between the demo and album versions. The demo is on YT, with lyrics, on the descriptions I think. The demo gets many very positive comments.
There are some live versions on YT with Anette. I think Wacken 2008, if my memory serves me right, is not bad at all. Mexico City 2015 with Floor is a good one as well, even thoug it was without the spectacular backdrop. The song works just great without it. To me it is like training for Wembley.
The then Prime Minister of Finland, Matti Vanhanen, attended the End of an Era concert 2005 in Helsinki Finland, Tarja's last with Nightwish. Some years later in an interview he was asked about Nightwish and what happened back then. He was very diplomatic, didn't take sides. He said he was concerned about the future of Nightwish. Would it be the end or could they replace Tarja with another female front? That wouldn't necessarily be easy. Or they might go on with Marko on vocals alone. But that would be a big change.
The owner of the Finland's biggest daily newspaper, Helsingin Sanomat, and The Sanoma Group, the late Aatos Erkko, said he understood the decision to fire Tarja. Might have been the business man in him. You have to be able to make difficult decision when needed, for better future.
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Great song one of my best. And talking about abused children try to listen Concrete Angels by Martina McBride. Tearings
Hello Pandora
Hi Aran!
This is total bullshit from a Tarja fan. Tuomas had already been in a relationship with his current wife for a long time. Tarja was his muse and best female friend.
Tuomas met his wife in 2009, years after Tarja and Nightwish had split.
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Have you seen the song from Top Gun Maverick called Hold My Hand by Lady Gaga?
No, I haven't!:)
@@PandoraPlaysMusic it is great
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This was nightwish's best years of music. Basically from 2000 to 2010 ish Tomas wrote his best stuff. Hopefully this next album goes back to that mid 2000s style cause I really didn't like the last album.
Only one comment - Tuomas is an ateist, just like the rest of the band - therefore, please be careful when you read others personal interpretations of this masterpiece.😉
WOULD BE BETTER WITHOUT GREAT GRANDMAS OLD TV . LOL . I THINK IT IS GREAT HOW YOU SPEAK JUST AT THE BEGGING AND AGAIN AT THE END ,
UNLIKE THE REST WHO ARE PRESENTING A REACTION OF STOP START EVERY TEN TO TWENTY SECONDS AND SO TURNING THE SONG INTO A TWO HOUR EVENT .
REGARDS TONY.