THIS WASN"T A SONG BUT A LOOK INTO A SOUL! Ex Metal Elitist Reacts Nightwish "Poet and the Pendulum"
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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when floor starts singing, be still my son you're home.......i have never been able to stop the tears in my eyes.
The emotion in Floor's eyes goes into your soul.
''I can not cry, cause the shoulder cries more'' Damn....that always hits me. I had a same experience as Tuomas, with media, politicians and so called friends betraying you, writing the most horrible things about you, you don't recognize. It kept on going for months, years....journalists on my frontdoor while my daughter of 4 years old opened the door (I was behind her) they pretended to deliver a package and stuck the microphone in my face , with his shoes between my door.
I was a specialized nurse, very ill (cancer at age 34) operations and chemo and lots of time to think. I wanted to do something good for my profession and all the nurses who work ther butts of for little money. I was naive and an idealist. Not a hardcore politician. When I found out that large amounts of money were missing (corruption) and asked for the conviential files , it took me 3 months to get them and pages were missing. I went in a debate and I am strong with words. They could not deal with me, so the head of the region called HIS newsaper (subsidised by these people) and they wrote the most horrific things abbout me. Even me being a nazi ( something I despite, I am jewish myself and have a very multicultural family)
It is inhuman what people do to eachother without any remorse. So when the open letter (written by the whole band, not only tuomas) backfired and the media, Fnnish politicians, fans and ''friends; haunted him down in the media....I know so well how that feels. There are no words for. Defending yourself makes it worse, you just have to swallow it.
My shoulders where aso extremely upset and I had not really a strong shoulder to cry on. Demonizing people (what they also did to Tuomas) is horrible and the consequences are enormous.
I really could not deal with it anymore. My name was ruined, by cruel people and I lost everything. First my marriedge, my job, my house and without a house, I could not have my sweet daughters with me, who really wanted to stay with mom (they were all three very young) Homeless, nobody wants to hire you, the hardest part...my children.
I am happy Tuomas could write this song, to get rid of his 'ghosts'. I did want to end my life and I messed up, being in hospital for months and tr to walk again. Still my joy and passion is gone. It broke me and the pieces are to small to fix.
I can hear this song maybe once a month, because it's too close for me. After 8!!!! years fighting for a home I finally have a place for me and my daughters. That's what makes me happy, allthough it all still haunts me.
thank you for your reaction Cosmos.
Monica thank you so much for sharing! Appreciate you!
I hope a year on from your comment, things have continued to improve for you. I wish you well, and the strength to continue to move forward. Always have hope, and never give up on yourself because otherwise they win. Much love from a fellow Nightwish fan ❤
Thinking of you, friend Cosmic, and your gentle soul. You are not alone as you process this song. While I haven't commented before, it doesn't mean you haven't touched my heart.
You are incredibly kind Kat 😊
If this heartfelt outcry does not touch you, you may not have a soul.
Agreed
Every time, again and again
I agree 💯
Tuomas is a genius, and extremely empathetic human being, and watching him perform this song is exhilarating and heartbreaking at the same time. This song is exceptional in every way, but it needed Floor, she took it to another level.
Yeha I freaking love Tuomas so freaking much favorite musician of all time I listen to everything he makes Auri Nightwish, his concept album about Scrooge McDuck
@@digitalmouse3314 The Scrooge album is amazing
Agreed. Imagine how Tuomas must have felt when he unlocked Floor and Floor in turn, unlocked him. Two amazing artists coming together and making each other even better.
My favorite amongst all the amazing Nightwish songs. Tuomas can write such amazing songs, and Floor has such a way to make you feel the emotions thru her vocals. Such a talented band.
so true!
Not only does she sing this song, she has had the same path of emotions as Tuomas had to deal with...hence her "breaking" voice, she felt it, but her professionality made her snap out of that .... Sad that "this" Nightwish is no more.
yeah dude, 45 year old man over here in mississippi just steady flowing tears to this every damn time... it just hits. thanks for the reminder, be well.
appreciate you Dan! Keep being amazing dude
This opus is genius..... Thanks for doing "it" this way and not in reality, Tuomas. We need your music.... and to see you singing along to this!!!! Thank you also to Anette Olzon for making this possible to be heard....... if not for you being there...... Marko sang the demo - all of it darker, grittier, nastier..... 9:53 "3 minutes & counting....." - 12:53 Tuomas "cuts" his head off! Such details in the midst of all that emotion! "Dead Boys Poem" is another telling introspective Tuomas revelation.... Floor's empathy, as always, shines!
I heard Tuomas call Dead Boy's Poem the Mother of all Nightwish songs.... whenever his lyrics reference Dead Boy, or Ocean Soul... he is talking about himself
I loved your reaction, I was waiting for this one.
It's big, to me it's the ultimate Nightwish song. Maybe even in this particular performance. All band members are at their absolute best, having the perfect chemistry to totally bring it to the masterpiece it is.
Tiny piece of feedback: please just watch the video till the very end. Including the applause, sometimes you miss out on some nice gestures and details because you tend to stop half a minute before it ends.
Yea I heard the thank you. It was sooo nice!
Tuomas is a genius poet and floor perfectly portrayed the character he wrote about in this song perfectly. So fucking happy I discovered these guys when I was in the lowest point of my life. They helped me alot
I Can feel the pain and anguish, feel the sorrow, as Tuomas shares this beautifully composed song. And Floor's voice! It just reaches deep into my heart. You're right, this is more than just a band. This song has been here for me when I couldn't express myself. Thank you for sharing this today. And thank you for creating this space for us all to connect and share.
This...was something. I to be honest never expected to cry so much on videos. I'm a deeply empathic person, but try to keep myself in check for the glorious internet. But ya...I cant hold back
@@TheWolffAndTheMelody Your reactions are genuine and I really appreciate that. From one Empathic person to another, never hold back. Loved catching up with you and everyone here today.
The way Toumas did the guillotine motion in this performance… it really shows you the mentality he was in as he was writing this song. And this is one of the few times we can see him singing, and singing his HEART out no less, damn… to think there’s a timeline where we wouldn’t have his masterpieces to listen to is a thought I never want to entertain.
A favorite thing of mine in this performance? Throughout the song, you can regularly see the Marko, Emppu, and Floor going over to Toumas, like they’re checking up on him because they know what an emotionally driven song this is for him.
Without a doubt, this is the finest piece of rock music ever written.
It took me a long time to listen to this without crying, this song touch so deeply 😢
I felt it sooo early
A truly unique piece of musical artistry. Tuomas showing his inner being and his soul to the world. Respect for being man enough to allow us into his inner emotions.
This one is another really heart wrenching song from the heart of our metal Mozart, Tuomas Holopainen. It is incredible on so many levels that it just drives a spike through your soul. I loved your reaction to this masterpiece.
appreciate you Rick so much!
Only a few words. You fell this Masterpiece from Tuomas. Great reaction 🤘🤗greetings from nothern Germany
Greetings from West Virginia! I loved this!
@@TheWolffAndTheMelody 🤘
3 minutes and counting; the time you have before drowning. And when you count it's exactly 3 minutes before the blade falls.
Great reaction dude, its always wonderful when people understand the depth of this piece, infact of Nightwish music, in general - its not just catchy choruses, heavy riffs or whatever else that people look for in music, this is the scenery of Tuomas's soul, his very being made music - and brought to life by a band who aren't just great musicians, but also deeply empathic, who feel this deeply themselves. Great reaction dude 🤘
Much love Jim!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and emotions with us ! Your intro is very kind to us.
I can't talk about this peculiar song wich I can't hear without a tear. Eveyrone reacts emotionnally to different type of song; Floor's voice mixd with Marlo's one and the riffs and rhythms at the beginning make this song one of my tissue song.
Wow, thank you for sharing Sage! much love to you
There is a demo of this song on You Tube that features Marco doing all the vocals, so I'm guessing the song was written before they hired Anette Olzon. Probably re-worked the arrangements a bit for her for the album version. But Floor sings with such an emotional connection to the song it just makes it even more impactful. No wonder Tuomas had the sound engineer turn off the vocals in his earpiece when they used to play this in concert. Don't think they play it anymore live.
I absolutely love your reactions to NW. You give it the "reverence" that it deserves. Thank you.
Aww! Thank you Diane! You are so sweet. This music is so special.
Like your reaction. Tuomas’ Nightwish songbook is itself great, but then there is Poet. It stands alone as his magnum opus, quite unbelievable the soul baring emotion within. And add Floor. I do love Annette, the original singer, but only Floor carries each nuance of emotion, not just singing it but fully living it. This composition, and this performance are truly a high water mark of artistic achievement,
completely agree! This was felt in so many levels
Agreed. The studio version of this song is great, but this performance elevated it to legendary. It so beautifully allows every band member's strengths shine through - Kai's incredible precision, Marko's glorious voice, Emppu's virtuosity providing exactly what the song needs without overpowering, and of course Floor.
If you haven't heard it, I highly recommend tracking down the original demo of this song. It was cut before Annette even joined the band and Marko sings it all. It's powerfully raw.
@@GregLundChaix yes marko’s very dark demo version I rate over the final Album version.
@@GregLundChaix I agree. The demo version with Marko is raw, dark and passionate. Well worth a listen.
This Wembley and Tampere recordings are great, both from the same tour in 2015. A must have in your dvd/blu-ray collection, along with Wacken of course.
I have got to get these blu rays!
Brother, I've watched a few of your videos as you've gone down the Nightwish rabbit hole, and this video just led me to subscribe. It's impossible to get into the music of Nightwish and not be a changed person. They lay it all on the table and their music has such power to take you through the whole range of emotions. This song gives me chills from start to finish every time - it is their masterpiece. Glad we got to experience it together.
First of all, thanks for taking time. I dont take it for granted, and 2nd you are so right. I was not prepared for all the layers and complexity of this band
This has to be one of the greatest bands ever.
no doubt
One of their best songs. Happy you are experiencing how amazing this band is. This is what got my daughter into metal.
I showed her a bunch of Nightwish when she was out of school during Covid and this was one of her absolute favorite songs.
It was my first Nightwish song too - a friend at work gave me a heads up to check out this new album from a band I’d never heard of, which was Dark Passion Play. So my first song of their was “Poet…” … I didn’t know what I was in for when I hit play, but it was a wild an beautiful ride, as was the rest of the album, and I also used his collection to listen to “Once”, which is still my fave NW album to this day. Then I got into the back catalogue, and Imaginaerum when that was released, and I did get to see them live here in Sydney in about 2008.
Now that I know about the Tarja’s dismissal, the open letter, the fans backlash etc, the song means so much more, and I can understand why it’s painful to Tuomas … the quote of his that he killed himself in this song so he didn’t have to do it in real ife is a staggering admission, and we’re all the better for him delivering this catharsis!
… but even without the subtext, it’s a masterpiece of a song, and Floor’s vocals in this show are just the icing on the cake
thats so cool! Yea, I had no idea what I was getting into. Took me 15 years to understand.
Thanks
Thank's for beeing there!
I'm sorry, I can't afford a Patron membreship monthly. Have allready canceld YT Prime, Amazon Prime, ...
We're going though rough times. But I think, if a lot of people give a little, it could help a lot!
Big bearhugs from Germany 🤘
Bibs! Im just glad you are here. Please know that no matter what, I appreciate you just being here.
Such a great song, yet.. the only song i rarely listen too because it has such a heavy topic that i kind of have to be in the right mindset for, to listen to.
That does not take anything away from the greatness of this song though, it's Nightwish, they never deliver half-baked songs, it's always perfection.
But yeah... let's just say there have been people in my life, who needed this song more than anything, but never got to know it, so yeah.. not an easy song.
Ty for a truly great reaction and understanding the meaning behind the song, catch ya in the next one Cosmic :)
dude I get that, some songs are so heavy that I can listen to just a few times
@@TheWolffAndTheMelody this is one of those for me :)
Piece of art!!
This is exactly how you listen to music, you first find out why the song was made at all, usually there is a very big and important reason why it exists. And how much better is the experience when you understand why something happens, such as this song where Tuomas takes his life in order to endure and be able to live on.
Add me to those who tear up every time I hear that. But, I am so glad he wrote it and got some of the pain out of his soul. Carrying such a burden is debilitating. This version is so perfect, in every way. But, I think that what gets me the most is that way that Emppu and Marko (the only others in the band who went through that time with him) come to stand with him in solidarity at the end. Others have mentioned it, maybe not for a reaction, but on your own, the demo version with Marko singing is well worth listening to. It's rough in places, but so very powerful.
So true! I recently reacted to Islander live...you will see. That pulled some feelings from deep within
@@TheWolffAndTheMelody The Islander is my favorite Marko/Nightwish song. If you have reacted to it, you probably know why.
You´re good man , really good , a good person , up next. please!! Master passion greed .
You are way too kind! Appreciate the love!
More than just a song for sure.
new sub my guy..nightwish brought me here...love em. keep up the good stuff. do your is an empty hope live nighwish cruise or i want my tears back from buenos aries 2019 next
Thank you so much for the love dude! That means sooooo much!
Man, with your appreciation for the emotion in music, I just can't help but again recommend some emotionally intense doom....Swallow the Sun and Trees of Eternity...you'll love this stuff. Also. like Poet and the Pendulum, the whole Trees of Eternity project has its own intense background story that's reflected in the music itself.
I will indeed! I cant believe the door that has opened for me
Agreed it a look into Toumas soul
In April 2020 my mum died suddenly, I had to drive 200 miles across the UK to get to my family, when I got back home later that evening I still hadn't broken, I'd already heard this song a dozen times and I knew the meaning behind it, however as I sat down with a shot of JD I put a reaction to this on and I finally broke (it was "mother and father" that did the job). I wish I could tell Toumas, Floor, Kai Emppu and Marco how grateful I am to them for this performance.
I'm going to suggest you react to the Greatest Show on Earth next as it's Toumas at his best and his most creative
Thank you for sharing friend...I'm sure the band knows the impact they have had on us.
Dude!
🫂🤗
🤘😎🤘
Marco's singing in this song reminds me a lot of Lemmy.
I can see that!
This was my least favorite song on Dark Passion Play when I first heard that album. Floor just elevates this song to a whole other level.
Bro, I just want to you think of this
" I can not cry cause the shoulder cries more" you want to die, scream, do you want just the pain it's over, but you can't because family, team members, fans got a saving rock on you on your work, got to put a fake mask on your face, DUDE it is so hard,
That sh×÷; it's not easy
🙏 Thanks God Tuomas got the balls to deal with it ( sorry for my language) but you know what I mean
I freaking cry everytime on the Floor version she is the master of making you feel her range is not crazy but she has the empathy which I say is more powerful then having insane range with no emotion talking to you Axl sorry great singer technically but you feel nothing.
Yeah Tuomas and Tarja was rough for them and the fans they were childhood friends
You could also listen to the DEMO version with Marko singing entirely with original idea of lyrics.
Tarja also had her thoughts about Tuomas in this period of time, she wrote the song "Enough" in 2008 💩
Ego selfish prima donna
Dancing in your poisoned cage
Thinking that your conscience's clearer
If you drink your dreams away
Feed your anger to the devil
In yourself built wishing well
Take a swim in muddy waters
All the dirt will leave a trail
Had enough symphonies of sorrow
Be so brave and weep me away
Masterpiece of treachery
Built a wall and made me crumble
Just because I am in love
Don't you lie, that you kept all
Those are toys that you have got
Smash the mirror of the version
Keep the dagger that you made
Mirror, mirror, is there someone
Who can make your day today
Had enough symphonies of sorrow
Be so brave and weep me away
Had enough symphonies of sorrow
Be so brave and weep me away
Masterpiece of treachery
Kept my thoughts buried in a box
When it's shut, I still kept it locked
You draw a play written with my blood
Went ahead just to feed the lot
Had enough symphonies of sorrow
Be so brave and weep me away
Had enough symphonies of agony
Be so brave and weep me away
Masterpiece of treachery
First, I always have to prepare myself, when I see reaction to this song...
This song, for me, is one of the big three ("Ghost Love Score" given us by Tarja, "The Poet And The Pendulum" given us by Anette and "The Greatest Show On Earth" given us by Floor), and for Nightwish fans , this song is the most meaningful...
This songs backstory is deep and dark , especially for Tuomas (suicide by song). And yet, Floor took this song to a new astral level (originally sung by Anette). Also I recommend to read "The Pit and The Pendulum" by Edgar Allan Poe for extra flavor.
The reason for Tuomas’ depression was not the firing of Tarja itself, it was what came after that. The fans idolized Tarja and they could not accept the fact that she got fired. In their heads Tarja was the one that made the band famous and they became really angry and hostile, especially towards Tuomas. They really took it out on him. They called him all kinds of ugly things and a lot of them expressed that they did not care if he would die. These are the things that brought him into depression and these are the things that echo through the lyrics.
This song has the most emotional impact, at least for me... I was that that "Bastard" who abandoned Nightwish after Tarja left...Never Again !!!!
Although I love this song (Especially this version), it is the only song, I can't put to my playlist... because, I break down to tears every single time (Current reaction included...).
This masterpiece, will remain a reminder to me, for my narrow mindlessness.
Thank you for this reaction Cosmic !!!!
NWSU/FloorFan 🤘😎🤘.
*hug*
Much love Timo! I really do appreciate the the information and teaching me and also sharing how it makes you feel! Love it dude!
The whole Tarja/Tuomas/Nightwish situation around it got so big even the Finnish government had their say on it. Small country in terms of population maybe, but shows how much Nightwish means to Finland and all it's citizens.
newby here not that new at all :D i love Nightwish and the Nightwish Army all over the World This Song is a absolute Masterpiece (a musical suizid of Tuomas insted of do it for real ...)
its soooo good
Floor rocks!
❤❤❤
Think he found it.. Floor❤
While a brilliant piece of music, some find it irritating as it tells a very one sided story of the aftermath of the discarding of the original singer. The incident was in 2005 and still has very deep emotional weight for many of the fans from that time. Nightwish lost a big chunk of their fan base then and it took them bringing in Floor to get it back.
Dead boys poem
Tarja (ta rolled r)(ya)
Tuomas singing his mother's words aloud while not having a mic at all is one of the reasons why this hits so much more as a video and not just a track.
The Poet and the Pendulum was written after firing Tarja the original singer. She was the face of Nightwish at the time, and Tuomas (Keyboards) wrote this and considered her a muse to many of the songs he had written at that point. They had also grown up in the same city and knew each other since early childhood. All the band members decided together to fire her for acting too much of a diva And her husband & Manager was stepping way outta bounds concerning the band business He always wanted more money , only big paying show but the band did it for the love of music and there fans . According to all the band members, Tarja was missing lots of rehearsals and would not even travel with the band anymore. Tuomas was painted as the devil by many fans, and went through a deep depression. He even considered ending the band . He wrote The Poet and the Pendulum at that time, and actually kills himself in the song. He said he killed himself in the song at the 10:00 time stamp , as to kill the pain he was going through . To this day every time he plays it, it takes him back to those feelings, and shows on his face. In the last part, Mother and Father, words are said to him that his real mother said to him at that time of his deep depression. One part that touches me at the end when the guitarist Emppu and bassist Marko, the only other two involved with firing Tarja (that were still active with the band)were standing with Tuomas at the end in solidarity and love., NOTE : the 1st two words are (The End) and the last two words are (The Beginning) representing the end of the 1st era of Nightwish and the beginning of the next era
Very few people realize how much courage it takes to be this vulnerable, to show the whole damn world the very depth of your soul knowing that human beings can be incredibly cruel and equally capable to heal and to inflict even more pain.
I don't care how many times I hear this song - it always brings tears to my eyes. The thing that gets me the most is Floor quietly whispering Thank You to close the song- are you kidding me?
it was beautiful
When my wife's bipolar disorder was at its most uncontrolled, this song, and especially this chorus, kept me going, kept me alive, because I KNEW someone out there UNDERSTOOD pain, understood that when you're the strong shoulder someone is crying on, you can't cry, and when you face the world with all of your own pain, you show one happy face to the world and your true face to your inner self, your God....private, for no one else, because you CAN'T. There were days on my 1-2 hour commute I listened to this song on repeat, over and over and over again.
Thank you, Tuomas.
appreciate you opening up friend
❤
There is no other singer that can bring the emotion to a song than Floor, by far the best female voice on the planet....
No matter how many times I've seen this video, I still have the goosebumps, chills, and hair standing on end. I also tear up with emotions of sadness. While many other videos, no matter how often I've seen them, I always have the goosebumps, chills, and hair standing on end. I have such a feeling of awe of the music and Floor's voice and vocals it brings me to tears in a good way. They are tears of appreciation and a state of being awe struck. The first video I saw Floor in was Ghost Love Score at Wacken 2013. I was so moved by many emotions. I have probably viewed it well over 100 times, watching how others react to seeing Nightwish for the first time with that video. It is the number one video of reaction videos of all time on UA-cam. Some reactions you might hear are the ones seeing it for the first time, they never heard of Nightwish. Then some even say why is this anyone's first time. I gave purchased many DVD's and CD's of Nightwish. Nightwish is the band I would most like to see live someday. I know and have the feeling you are going to enjoy the journey of music and performances live and in concert.
Jeff, we have to see em live!!!
Snap. Poet really moves me and, yes, I was another whose intro to and capture by Floor was Wacken 13 GLS. You would like to see them live someday. I was so fortunate that within a couple of days of that Jan6 2022 encounter with GLS I had got tickets for the family to see NW at Birmingham in November. A night to remember. Probably at least a couple of years before they tour again, but, if you get the chance take it.
@@TheWolffAndTheMelody Indeed we do. I live in Green Bay, Wisconsin. But I'm willing to travel to see them.
This is one of those songs that helped me cry (weep!) when I needed to but didn't know how to on my own. Music is therapy. I'm so grateful to Nightwish. You have a beautiful heart, brother.
Much love dude, I appreciate you😊
I concur!
One of the Most beautiful
pieces written by a Modern composer.
Tuomas is an absolute GENIUS.
Thanks Nightwish🤘
Thank You so Much
from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
Kiitos 🇫🇮
Couldn't agree more! Greetings from West Virginia
I was at that concert - 12.500 people in awe and salt in our eyes. Nobody in this galaxy are able to express emotions, passion and feelings, so hard and effectively, that everybody in the arena, lives it - like Floor.
We know that Tuomas have the technicians kill Floor's voice in his earplugs during the ending - of course he has. She is insanely powerful !!
This whole concert was a roller-coaster of emotions and feelings - and this one particular crushed our minds.
It's far beyond music - it's art performed in it's purest form.
This is real music - this is Nightwish with Floor in front ❤
Nightwish is my top favorite band. I am metal guy, this symphonic metal music by Tuomas hits me every time. I was seeing them live June 16th 2023, I tell you, if you have a chance to go seeing them live, go! It was so great and my heart burned for them, forever ❤And the last song they performed (usually they play that song) was The Greatest Show On Earth. Man that was beyond epic live 🤘Great reaction, keep going. Greetings from Finland, Oulu city 😎
Greetings! Appreciate you so much!😊
I was in Kitee to..A memory for lifetime.👍👍👍
Well done. You know Cosmic, you end your videos with some very positive messages, usually sending a single uplifting message, priceless for sure for those who need to hear it. I want to pass one on to you now, echoing Tuomas' beautiful affirmation from the last verse, "You have such oceans within". Take care of yourself, and thanks for great reaction.
I hope one day you will understand how much that means to me...more than you realize😊
This song is a true masterpiece and I am glad this exceptional recording exists because I don't think it will be performed live again (notwithstanding the band on touring hiatus).
I am so relieved Tuomas had a way to find catharsis through music because the turmoil, the crisis, the voices inside that tell you to go are so dangerous that there was a chance we could have lost him.
Don’t apologize for your emotions. That’s what makes your channel interesting in a sea of reaction channels. Seeing you so affected by music, especially by my favorite band, Nightwish, and sharing what/why you are feeling, is vulnerable and opens your listeners/watchers up, too. Nightwish gives me so many feelings and an outlet for same that I hadn’t tapped into in a long time. This is not background music!
Tuomas is a genius composer, man and the music, the words yeah Amazing
This was Tuomas....erm...unaliving himself in music so he didn't do it for real. Turning to his art to express himself. Save himself. If this doesn't move you, I don't want to know you. This is a genius baring his soul.....raw humanity on display. They don't play it often, but I am glad there's a record of it somewhere. It should be recorded and witnessed for the ages.
I feel that a The Greatest Show On Earth will be here soon. You will regret not choosing the Tampere version! Also, Dead Boys Poem is also a must.
Ohhh I may have something coming soon lol
@@TheWolffAndTheMelodyRemember the Tampere version. And it should be the longest video.
@@tobimobiv1 some of us still prefer the Wembly version.......;-)
@@duizeltjeeekhoorn6890 I prefer the Nightwish version 😊
@@paisa20 best answer!
PSA full disclosure coming... i am a type to bury my feelings. Sometimes for me, certain NW songs are a way to let loose, in a safe way. This is one of the songs, Tuomas and Floor can make me feel again.
But enough about me, this again is a piece of art and yes, Tuomas baring it all for everyone to see. TY cosmic for the parting words and caring thoughts, they are appreciated and everyone needs to hear them from time to time. You are loved, you are needed, you are valued, you DO matter in this world! Peace and love all!
Its amazing what music does to us...simply amazing
And dude think about it this way. None of these(except Troy Donockley) are native english speakers and still they can project all the emotion to the audience so purely and beautifully. Their own languages don't sound like english even a bit. :)
"tx God for health, tx for the love of friends and family, and tx for Tuomas Holopaïnen 🤟" that's me before bed 😄
So much for trying to finish the Wacken concert first......lol
hahaha At least I understood hahaha
One of the most, if not THE most, emotionally hard-hitting pieces of music ever made at least to my knowledge. This performance still leaves me all teary-eyed every damn time, the whole song is like a giant steamroller of emotions and then to top it all, that last "mother and father" part with Floor singing those lines like an absolute siren and Marko harmonising along..., if that doesn't pull your heartstrings i don't think you have any. Beautiful reaction man, you're obviously a thoughtful guy with depth to your soul and that's always welcome in a time when empty barrels make the most noise.
This is a masterpiece by Tuomas sung by the best female voice, so touching.
Always gets to me 🥹
We are happy to share this journey with you Cosmic! My free tip for the day is this:
In many countries/languages, the letter J is pronounced as a Y. So, Tarja = Tarya and Jansen = Yansen. That said, there is nothing wrong with the Americanized pronunciation, even if it is technically incorrect. In the same vein, the W in German is pronounced like a V, so Wacken = Vahken.
ok, you bought this album, so you know the song and the story behind it. i saw it live with Anette ... kindly said, i was pissed enough to "never buy a Nightwish ticket" .. a friend does so i found Floor 2015
wow! I get it
Mama Floor
I cringe with convulsion when i accidentally tap into Anette's version of this song.
15:06 We very rarely see Tuomas sing but here in the 5th part, Mother and father, you can see him scream on the top of his lungs. What he screams or vents we can not know and mustn't speculate on. It's as much of a private matter as it can be. I really hate when reporters ask such questions and claim it's in the interest of the fans. NO! Whatever it is I hope that it helps him, even though many years have past the song is a heavy load on his shoulders. There are scars that never completely heal.
When you stand on the precipice of suicide, you are often angry. You are sad, and with that sadness is anger, a desire to blame someone (or more), and that is reflected subtly in this song. It is hard to hear if you have stood at that edge. I suppose Floor has massive strength to sing this without having a problem. Her ability to detach while still putting feeling into this is astonishing. Anette had to sing this at one NW concert. That one day, she found out she lost a custody hearing. When singing this song during the concert, she lost her composure and went running off stage.
Dark Passion Play is well named. Many of the songs are angry or sad. One song never played live or even in a video "Master, Passion, Greed" is sung by Marco only and was directed at Tarja's husband. "Bye, Bye, Beautiful" was aimed at Tarja herself. These triggered the Tarja song "Enough". Both Tuomas and Tarja took a LOT of crap in the Finnish media. One Finnish government official publicly dumped on Tuomas. Tarja would eventually move out of the country. A public letter firing her after the private letter was not a good thing looking back. Business is business, and if they could have just agreed to buy out Tarja's remaining year (which she may have sued for anyway), they could have made separate or together announcement of her leaving and people might have been disappointed, but moved on. Between airing the dirty laundry and purposely embarrassing Tarja by releasing the letter, Tarja was bound to respond. Tarja appeared on TV crying and answering questions. She was just fired, humiliated by the public airing of the letter, how was the band expecting her to respond? Tarja got the solo career she wanted. NW moved on and became more popular. With the expansion of the Internet and reactions seen on YT, there has been an expanding audience for a lot of artists.
it's beautiful and kind of rare to see one react like the way you do - you feel very honest and true to you self about your feelings and are not afraid to show it, and I admire that . I have personally shed alot of tears to this song but only when i've been all alone. thank you once again for a great reaction and keep it up man!
appreciate that dann
I used to cry like a baby at the end of this song, but thankfully, 500 listens later i think I'm over it 😂😂
lol then boom hits ya again!
Thanks God for Floor because i never was Anette fan
And there you have it at last. My no 1 Nightwish song. Again, DPP was released only 16 years ago so you got it pretty much fresh from release
Accumulated thoughts on the song and the performance...
Tuomas is a very special person and this is, for me, the pinnacle of his work.
Nothing surpasses it.
For him it is one of the deepest songs.
Quotes from the band on the making of the album and the song...
TUOMAS: We will never play "Bye Bye Beautiful" or "Master Passion Greed" live again, [sic] because the lyrics are just too unambiguous and personal. There was at least as much gloom behind "The Poet and the Pendulum", too, but it leaves a bit more room for interpretation. It's easily one of our best songs but especially, the "Mother and Father'" part in the end always stirs up such a storm of emotions that it's impossible for me to do it every night. Playing "The Poet and the Pendulum' is a real rollercoaster ride - it makes me feel anxious, blush, laugh, and, in the end, just happy that that part of my life is behind me.
My notes:
My number 1 Nightwish song and for good reasons.
(No 2, Song of Myself, No 3 7 Days to the Wolves.)
This is a deeply emotional and meaningful song with which I empathise and it helped me to see that there was a way forward when depression struck. I am not alone in being "saved" by Nightwish, a fact that Tuomas has referred to and said he could not terminate the band because he knows they have meant so much to some fans who feel their lives have been saved by Nightwish.
He feels that he has a responsibility to the fans - not your standard rock musician then.
Floor is worth watching closely, her facial, hand and whole-body motions reflect the emotions she is portraying. Hands in Mother and Father for example. Tearing her hair in the Dark Passion Play section.
Note that when Tuomas talks about "Poet" he is always referencing himself. It happens throughout his ouvre.
You will see other cross-references too. Tuomas does that deliberately to give the fans a sort of anchor. Meadows of Heaven is another example - a song in itself and often referenced.
For what it's worth, here are are my thoughts and interpretations...
End to beginning - death of one era of the band, beginning of a new era.
Regarding the end of the first Era, I see no point in the blame game.
The band split, that is all we need to know.
Whatever the causes there was bound to be emotion on both sides so I leave it at that.
But this masterpiece is what came out of Tuomas' emotions.
The beginning is a boy soprano, Guy Elliott who also does the spoken parts. The whispering at the beginning is the central spoken section, but played in reverse.
Then we get the whole section "Home".
I see the "shoulder cries more" as having no shoulder to cry on because the other members of the band - his friends - were equally upset.
The "whore for the cold world" I see as the selling of his whole life to the music industry (the metaphorical pimps, hence the "whore" references) which is not interested in the person, only what they can get from the band.
The two faces bit is self explanatory; almost everyone will have been in situations where they have to hide their feelings and present a false front to the world.
The reference to betrayal is again obvious and there are lots of metaphors in the surrounding words. The altar I think, is the tie to the band - these upheavals in 2004/5 were not the first time Tuomas had felt like ending the band.
By the way, note the 3 minutes and counting: exactly 3 minutes later you get the guillotine motion.
By the way, Marco made the demo version of this, with all the lyrics sung by himself and with harsher lyrics at this point too.
Next we get to the Mother and Father section with Floor, Marco and Emppu all sitting, while Floor sings lyrics reflecting the words from his mother when he went back home for a break in the middle of all this turmoil.
These are the words of love and then of advice, that he was given.
Floor here is using her finger movements to accentuate emotion.
This whole section and the way Floor sings it, is packed with those damned Onion Ninjas.
Marco's harmonies are wonderful.
We end with the final ethereal notes from Floor and here is another tingle-factor moment. Then a gentle piano ending, the calm after the emotional storm.
Here, as in Sparkle my Scenery, the choir on the original album is replaced by Floor who wanted to sing them herself (and proved completely capable of it) which Anette could not have done - she could probably get the notes but the emotion is there in the choral original and is amplified when Floor sings it.
The low brass used in many places is really effective.
On the performance itself:
When Emppu goes over to Tuomas and later both Marco and Emppu go over, it is a sign of moral support. They both know how difficult this is for him - eventually he had the vocals turned off in his in-ear, so he didn't have to listen to them because Floor put such emotion into them.
At the end, she does not say "Thank you" immediately, as she does normally. Instead she looks over for a few seconds to check on him from her position.
BTW, I have never bought the theory that Tuomas was "in love" with Tarja. Those who say he asked her to join the band because he knew her from school - she was suggested by Emppu who had known her as an acquaintance at school.
Nightwish Army South Germany Division
Nightwish is much more than a band. They are like a family, closely connected. When Floor first came to them, they probably didn't realize how quickly and how tightly the gang grew and bonded with their arrival.
Thuomas is the head but Floor is the heart and soul of the group.
And you could see how strong these ties are when Thuomas said later that Floor isn't the third singer, but the final one.
You have searched ..... and found.
And this is exactly what makes Nightwish so unique.
About the masterpiece: It was a difficult and hard time for Thuomas and the others.
He wrote all this from the soul when he created this very personal masterpiece.
And it hurts, as you can clearly see in several close-ups. This was also the reason that Emppu stood next to him for so many minutes to give him mental support. It is said that he asked the sound engineer to block Floor's voice from his earphones. It would have been even harder and more painful to hear her voice.
And her quiet thanks only came from her after she had convinced herself that Thuomas was fine.
At the same time, this was the end of an era and the beginning of a new one. The first two words were : The End and the last two : The Beginning.
That says it all.
Great reaction this song never gets old and touches your soul Tuomas is a poet and an empath and shares his soul in his music he doesn't just write music for music sake like many other bands but shares a piece of himself and that connects with many of us. His music may not be ordinary but is unique like the fine wine he drinks.
Hi 😄 or good morning. Watching you since your first reaction but didn't say Hallo 😶. Thank you for your reactions, warm words and an enthusiasm, that makes one 😃. Greetings from Germany 🤗 and Parkinson's sucks ⚘ but EMPPU RULES 😎🤘 alex
Greetings to you! Hello to you as well! So glad you are here, and I really do appreciate all the kind words friend!
If you like emotional roller coasters then you should check out the band Insomnium and to be more specific -> INSOMNIUM- Godforsaken feat. Johanna Kurkela (OFFICIAL VIDEO). Johanna is the wife of Nightwish Tuomas. Another good emotional track -> Swallow the Sun - Cathedral Walls (Official Music Video). Drummer in that song is current Nightwish Drummer (Kai Hahto) and the female singer is the second one of the Nightwish female lead Singers (between Tarja and Floor), Anette Olzon. Those two songs would be amazing reaction video material as well 😉.
I may or may not have some Insomnium coming....soon....lol
That song moved me. I tattooed the pendulum at the back of my left calf like 5 years ago.
Thats soooo awesome dude
Nightwish since 1999 and journey continues
Floor is from another level of sing...but...u should listen to Tarja's (the first singer)...very different, but equally eppic
Thanks for your reaction, Wolff! NW is an example of great synergy of brilliant composer and song writer, outstanding musicians, perfect voices and amazing spirit! Love them soooooo much! ❤
It was so hard time for him specially but also for the rest of the band...what happened in 2005. He puts out his feelings here with so majestic and emotional way at the same time. This is their first song ever without Tarja. Tuomas was about to end NW but fortunately not. Check also "Bye Bye Beautiful" and "Master Passion Greed" both dealing the same issue.
My favourite saying: Other bands have songwriters, Nightwish has a COMPOSER.
Tuomas is second to NONE.
"Sahara" Live at Tampa Fl. is fantastic. New sub, make it happen.Im from Brooklyn. We dont use lols here.
It's an effort to understand The Poet, everything is said, but nothing is said out loud. It's not until you have read both letters, read online, seen interviews and read the excellent analysis that's out there that you can begin to truly understand everything that's written between the lines. That's when you can put what's suggested into context and understand the big picture with all its details. That's when you graduate The Nightwish Academy. For me this became an obsession, I bought the books by Poe and King and even a bible to get the references in Marko's part.
The line "I can't cry, cause the shoulder cries more" kind of sums up the anguish that Tuomas felt when you realize that the shoulder that he cried on was Tarja's.