I'm 67 years old. I haven't ridden a motorcycle since I was 18ish and then it was very little. I've never owned a motorcycle, but I have an order in for the CF Moto Beta 450. They are guessing it will be a couple of months but say its anyone guess. The shipment is supposed to be off the pacific coast waiting to be released. I am 190 LBS. The thought of doing some exploring is intriguing to me. I think the manual would be a great benefit to me as well. Thumbs up to your video. Thank you
Thank you for the excellent video. For clarity's sake, essentially, all your adjustments have made all the suspension 'stiffer' and the ride firmer. Is that correct? The MT is my first bike with adjustable suspension, so it has been a learning curve. You are the first person I have found to use the term 'spring rate'. All other vids have used the term 'preload' for the 14mm spanner adjustment. My manual that came with the bike also says this is the 'preload' adjustment. Professor google says they are not the same thing. I understand you are not offering professional suspension advise and am grateful for your time in putting up this vid, it is much appreciated. Looking forward to a follow up if you have the time. I am an older returning rider 97kg and am not a dirt fiend and am not interested in blasting along single tracks at speed. I just want to explore. I bought the MT for its intended purpose as a 'Multi-Touring' go anywhere bike, and have found the suspension to be a bit hard as set. Others have said the same thing. I feel I would benefit from having the suspension set to soak up the hits some more on rougher roads, as that would help my rider control and comfort. But I don't want to lose road handling at speed. I don't think all buyers of the MT are ex-motocross or enduro. It is excellent that the MT has such easily adjustable suspension to make the bike truly multipurpose. But advice on how to safely get the best from these adjustments is rather lacking. Great shed setup. Cheers, Lawrie, Brisbane.
@@lawrieyoutube4375 g’day Laurie, yes you are correct - I was adjusting preload not “spring rate” as I said in the video. My adjustments have made the ride firmer for sure. This is a work in progress as I get to know the bike and refine my preferences for the kind of riding I’ll be doing. Cheers
Hi, my Cfmoto 450mt has reached 7000km, I'm 95kg, the spring Rate is perfekt für me and regarding the harsh damping, my suspension specialist told me to change the oil would improve the sensitivity. We will find out. I just interrested how to get the shopmanual, is there a source known? Enjoy riding as I do
thank you exactly what i needed im 103 kg some single tracks 4wd tracks haven't touched the front yet only adjustment rear knob 6 clicks from left zero
Looking forward to some more comments. I’m 80kg and 85% road work. Short inseam, so some sag in the rear will help with getting feet down. I’ll potentially use the lower link to reduce the seat to 800mm though.
the only way to change spring rate is to either change the spring for one with a different rate, or change the leverage on the Wheel rate. you can't change the spring rate by putting more load on it, you just change the ride height not the spring rate. a stiffer spring can feel softer because the doesn't have to be as much preload which over-rides the amount of weight it carries, that is because you can have NO preload for the weight to overcome first! and doesn't take as much force to let movement begin.
Good point, I'll clarify that in future videos. Terminology can get a bit dense when talking about suspension. I’m just waiting for the comment to say it’s “damping” not “dampening” 😂
I'm 88kg and doing a mix of road and offroad, hopefully more offroad soon. I'm currently trying out 7 clicks front compression and rebound, preload with 5 rings showing. Left rear preload at stock and 7 clicks on the rear rebound 👍
If it doesn't come with, would you happen to have a source for the spiral bound manual? This will be my first new bike since the Honda Navi debuted (and there were zero adjustments to be made there), and all my other bikes have been used and abused beyond most regular fixes, so I would like to at least maintain it well. Thanks!
Have you drained the shit stock oil and replaced with quality oil ?? easiest cheapest suspension upgrade avalible for any new bike.. OEM use oil from a 10000 ltr tank thats cheap..
I'm 67 years old. I haven't ridden a motorcycle since I was 18ish and then it was very little. I've never owned a motorcycle, but I have an order in for the CF Moto Beta 450. They are guessing it will be a couple of months but say its anyone guess. The shipment is supposed to be off the pacific coast waiting to be released. I am 190 LBS. The thought of doing some exploring is intriguing to me. I think the manual would be a great benefit to me as well. Thumbs up to your video. Thank you
Thank you for the excellent video. For clarity's sake, essentially, all your adjustments have made all the suspension 'stiffer' and the ride firmer. Is that correct?
The MT is my first bike with adjustable suspension, so it has been a learning curve. You are the first person I have found to use the term 'spring rate'. All other vids have used the term 'preload' for the 14mm spanner adjustment. My manual that came with the bike also says this is the 'preload' adjustment. Professor google says they are not the same thing. I understand you are not offering professional suspension advise and am grateful for your time in putting up this vid, it is much appreciated. Looking forward to a follow up if you have the time.
I am an older returning rider 97kg and am not a dirt fiend and am not interested in blasting along single tracks at speed. I just want to explore. I bought the MT for its intended purpose as a 'Multi-Touring' go anywhere bike, and have found the suspension to be a bit hard as set. Others have said the same thing. I feel I would benefit from having the suspension set to soak up the hits some more on rougher roads, as that would help my rider control and comfort. But I don't want to lose road handling at speed. I don't think all buyers of the MT are ex-motocross or enduro.
It is excellent that the MT has such easily adjustable suspension to make the bike truly multipurpose. But advice on how to safely get the best from these adjustments is rather lacking.
Great shed setup. Cheers, Lawrie, Brisbane.
@@lawrieyoutube4375 g’day Laurie, yes you are correct - I was adjusting preload not “spring rate” as I said in the video.
My adjustments have made the ride firmer for sure. This is a work in progress as I get to know the bike and refine my preferences for the kind of riding I’ll be doing. Cheers
Hi, my Cfmoto 450mt has reached 7000km, I'm 95kg, the spring Rate is perfekt für me and regarding the harsh damping, my suspension specialist told me to change the oil would improve the sensitivity. We will find out. I just interrested how to get the shopmanual, is there a source known? Enjoy riding as I do
thank you exactly what i needed im 103 kg some single tracks 4wd tracks haven't touched the front yet only adjustment rear knob 6 clicks from left zero
Looking forward to some more comments. I’m 80kg and 85% road work. Short inseam, so some sag in the rear will help with getting feet down. I’ll potentially use the lower link to reduce the seat to 800mm though.
the only way to change spring rate is to either change the spring for one with a different rate, or change the leverage on the Wheel rate. you can't change the spring rate by putting more load on it, you just change the ride height not the spring rate.
a stiffer spring can feel softer because the doesn't have to be as much preload which over-rides the amount of weight it carries, that is because you can have NO preload for the weight to overcome first! and doesn't take as much force to let movement begin.
Good point, I'll clarify that in future videos. Terminology can get a bit dense when talking about suspension. I’m just waiting for the comment to say it’s “damping” not “dampening” 😂
A great explanation video!
Champion 🤙
I'm 88kg and doing a mix of road and offroad, hopefully more offroad soon. I'm currently trying out 7 clicks front compression and rebound, preload with 5 rings showing. Left rear preload at stock and 7 clicks on the rear rebound 👍
Awesome video 👍
Cheers!
If it doesn't come with, would you happen to have a source for the spiral bound manual? This will be my first new bike since the Honda Navi debuted (and there were zero adjustments to be made there), and all my other bikes have been used and abused beyond most regular fixes, so I would like to at least maintain it well. Thanks!
I do but for copyright reasons I don’t believe I can share it here
@rubberneckrides5940 loud and clear.
Edit: found any number of .Pdf online...
Yes, that manual is different from the one that came with the bike. Will search.
Have you drained the shit stock oil and replaced with quality oil ?? easiest cheapest suspension upgrade avalible for any new bike.. OEM use oil from a 10000 ltr tank thats cheap..