nice video; thanks tons!!👏👏 🤞Argentina bought 130 RSD16 (DHL-540) with 251B motor & have been on duty since 1957, 64 years so far. Used for cargo, long distance passenger trips, commuting, shunting; might have them around for another decade or two. saludos = cheers Richard, 🇦🇷Argentina
You missed the Southern Pacific, who ordered 37 RS11s'. At the end of the video, the napa valley wine train #62 is one of the SP units. I love the horizontal lights and P3 horn!
You should do a follow up with the MLW RS18!! CP were scrapping their C424's in the 90's but the trusty old 18's kept soldiering on until the Atlantic lines were sold off!!
Bringing up the short falls of the 244 was just, but once railroads understood the engines issues and made the updates these units worked just fine for many major Railroads and short lines that knew how to maintain them. Most notable are EL (who my Grandfather worked for and Loved the RS-3 !!) NYC, NH, PRR, D&H, B&M, L&N, SP&S, L&HR, CRI&P, SP, SAL and many more even to this day !
I do like the 244. What I don't like is how Alco just put the engine into to rs-3 and its other locomotives and "Crossed their fingers" and hoped it would work out, in spite the warning sings. Also, as I ponied out in the video, most of the second hand buyers of the rs-3 like the locomotive, once they had the necessary knowledge and parts to repair the prime movers and keep them going. Thanks for watching!
Should be noted that the 16 cylinder version was more problematic then the 12 cylinder. While ALCo resolved the issues, the financial cost and reliability question probably cost them more in their reputation. Funny that they went back to the 241 for the base of the 251. Thanks for your posts!
I remember Nickel Plate RS11s and thought they were the ugliest diesels I had ever seen. Well, nostalgia and maturity have mellowed my attitude and I now appreciate their brutish appearance.
IF you had a railroad (L&N) that knew the ins & outs of an engine (i.e. the 244 & 251) and had a ready supply of trained repair folks & crews / parts, both engines could be serviced easily & earn their keep. I reference the longevity of the L&N 1300 series Alco c420s (largest in the US) ;D smoking right along down the tracks ;D
Very informative!! Except @24:20 when you listed who had them, you failed to mention that the Nickel Plate Road (NKP) had 35 units, and the Southern Pacific (SP) had 37 units - including the Demonstrators!!! 😉
Watching on wife's phone not her opinions This is one of the best informative Alco videos I have seen also how did you get Ray Liotta to narrate this ?
If you would be able and or willing to do a small segment on the MKTs rs3ms I would be more than fine to present footage of one of the last in operation. I even have some videos/photos of her 4 builders plates for both emd and alco
The answer to both questions is actually yes. It's typical for short lines railroads to operate less then perfect track at slow speeds, as track maintenance can get very expensive. this is not normally an issue for short lines as they don't need speed and will simply operate as slow as 5 mph. So yes, the track dose need work, in some sections, I understand the batten kill has since started to correct these bad sections of track like the one you pointed out. Its a shame thought, when I road the Batten kill rambler, the company's now canceled passenger service, in the mid 90's, the track had just gone thought a major upgrade program. we zipped along at easily over 40MPH! once off the train, there were sings that new ties had been installed and fresh ballast was every were. The rambler has long since been discounted, apparently due to lack of ridership, this may have contributed to the tracks decay as passenger serves requires higher track maintenance levels for insurance reasons. also, the company changed owners back in 2008. Thanks for watching!
I don't care what problems they had with these units. I like them .and because they had problems with it, they still would get down and pull and with proper TLC, these units were actually really good locomotives. Criticize them all you want,some of these girls are still in operation on the Mexican railroads just south of the border.
The CV must have really liked the rs11 cause they bought some 14 from the DWP. Also I'm a GM guy but the RS11 is a nice loco especially in green and gold
If I remember correctly, the CV was a spin off of the DWP, to handle the American side of the CN's business, who also owned the DWP at that point. Canada was going through a privatizing area and the railroads were no exceptions.
@@alcobufff The CV wasn't a spinoff of the DW&P--the CV had its own history, going back to the 1870's, completely independent of the DW&P. You're correct that both the CV and DW&P were CN subsidiaries, however. No doubt the common corporate parent did play a role in the DW&P RS-11's migrating to the CV.
Good news and bad news. The footage I was looking for was not actually there. Fortunately I am able to return to get new footage. If you have anything specific you want me to film just reply. I can do the builders plate, bogies and distance shots. I can maybe do walkways but not the cab or interior engine.
I rember those packets LMFAO 😅😂😂🤤 I Remember those it was a packet filled with some type of Powder with a little Nicholas pouch that had some form of liquid in it. Instructions said take the pouch and squeeze it until it breaks. Then throw pouch 10 to 15 seconds later, it will blow. The smell was atrocious Absolutely disgusting It smelt like you just s*** your pants. I put this in my teacher's desk and his Jacket pocket. Everybody in the classroom started laughing and said Mr. Johnson just shit himself lmfao 🤣
I enjoyed the video very detailed well put together and very well done. However there is a Mistruth in the ideology behind long hood forward operations the N&W and Southern Railway preferred engines Highhood and LHF for two reasons the first is eliminating the need to turn the locomotives as the locomotive if LHF didn’t have to be turned for visibility of line side signals specifically when MU-ed together the other is the high hood keeps from early AAR locomotive operation rules which in the early days required locomotives with short hoods as they were not common practice required that they must face forward utilizing the forward windows wherever possible these two factors eliminated the meeting of this requirement. While it had the added benefit of being safer for the crew this was not the reason nor the case. Railroads historically have never had much consideration for crew comfort or safety
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nice video; thanks tons!!👏👏
🤞Argentina bought 130 RSD16 (DHL-540) with 251B motor & have been on duty since 1957, 64 years so far.
Used for cargo, long distance passenger trips, commuting, shunting; might have them around for another decade or two.
saludos = cheers
Richard, 🇦🇷Argentina
The smoke from the Orange one is pretty impressive!
Tons of info plus great rural shortline video...what more could an Alco railfan want
As an alco rs fan myself,or anything made in Schenectady, I enjoyed this video presented by a very informative narrator.
Good set of videos, I appreciate that you gave credit to all of us!
No problem! The least I could do is give you credit for your video(s). Glad you liked them!
You missed the Southern Pacific, who ordered 37 RS11s'. At the end of the video, the napa valley wine train #62 is one of the SP units. I love the horizontal lights and P3 horn!
You should do a follow up with the MLW RS18!! CP were scrapping their C424's in the 90's but the trusty old 18's kept soldiering on until the Atlantic lines were sold off!!
Very informative series, however, please note that Alco S-1 and S-2 switchers used the Blunt truck while the S-3 and S-4 used AAR type A.
Bringing up the short falls of the 244 was just, but once railroads understood the engines issues and made the updates these units worked just fine for many major Railroads and short lines that knew how to maintain them. Most notable are EL (who my Grandfather worked for and Loved the RS-3 !!) NYC, NH, PRR, D&H, B&M, L&N, SP&S, L&HR, CRI&P, SP, SAL and many more even to this day !
I do like the 244. What I don't like is how Alco just put the engine into to rs-3 and its other locomotives and "Crossed their fingers" and hoped it would work out, in spite the warning sings. Also, as I ponied out in the video, most of the second hand buyers of the rs-3 like the locomotive, once they had the necessary knowledge and parts to repair the prime movers and keep them going.
Thanks for watching!
@@alcobufff I hear ya !
It had it's issues for sure. I will re-word it : )
Should be noted that the 16 cylinder version was more problematic then the 12 cylinder. While ALCo resolved the issues, the financial cost and reliability question probably cost them more in their reputation.
Funny that they went back to the 241 for the base of the 251.
Thanks for your posts!
Those are some really wobbly rails 😳
I remember Nickel Plate RS11s and thought they were the ugliest diesels I had ever seen. Well, nostalgia and maturity have mellowed my attitude and I now appreciate their brutish appearance.
Great Video. Hope to see more soon.
Excellent info thanks
IF you had a railroad (L&N) that knew the ins & outs of an engine (i.e. the 244 & 251) and had a ready supply of trained repair folks & crews / parts, both engines could be serviced easily & earn their keep. I reference the longevity of the L&N 1300 series Alco c420s (largest in the US) ;D smoking right along down the tracks ;D
Excellent work! Loving the series!
Thanks!
Excellent video. Well done
I really enjoyed this video. Keep them coming please
Beautiful. Canada had a version of the RS11 called the RS18.
All LIRR Alco s had steam generators too including RS locomotives .
1802 had a mishap in Fancher with a tow truck. I think it's parked in Medina at the ethanol plant waiting to be repaired
excellent video. thank you.
Very informative!! Except @24:20 when you listed who had them, you failed to mention that the Nickel Plate Road (NKP) had 35 units, and the Southern Pacific (SP) had 37 units - including the Demonstrators!!! 😉
In Argentina we still have the Alco RSD-16 in service. A model that was only built for our ralways.
Great content, lots and lots of research -glad too have subscribed ☺👍👍
Thanks!
Ran RS-11 at IRM, some of my fav days. Believe the initial instruction was on S-2? Best rail museum in USA, if not world, just my 2 cents.
Great video as always
Thanks!
Watching on wife's phone not her opinions This is one of the best informative Alco videos I have seen also how did you get Ray Liotta to narrate this ?
please, 🤞may we have the link to
parts #1 & #2?
thanks tons!👏
If you would be able and or willing to do a small segment on the MKTs rs3ms I would be more than fine to present footage of one of the last in operation.
I even have some videos/photos of her 4 builders plates for both emd and alco
Sounds interesting. Do you have those videos posted?
@@alcobufff not yet but I can very quickly do so. If not I will link you to my drive so you can find it yourself.
At 4:20 the cars are rocking back and forth big time. Is that typical, or is that track in serious need of repair? Great video.
The answer to both questions is actually yes. It's typical for short lines railroads to operate less then perfect track at slow speeds, as track maintenance can get very expensive. this is not normally an issue for short lines as they don't need speed and will simply operate as slow as 5 mph. So yes, the track dose need work, in some sections, I understand the batten kill has since started to correct these bad sections of track like the one you pointed out. Its a shame thought, when I road the Batten kill rambler, the company's now canceled passenger service, in the mid 90's, the track had just gone thought a major upgrade program. we zipped along at easily over 40MPH! once off the train, there were sings that new ties had been installed and fresh ballast was every were. The rambler has long since been discounted, apparently due to lack of ridership, this may have contributed to the tracks decay as passenger serves requires higher track maintenance levels for insurance reasons. also, the company changed owners back in 2008.
Thanks for watching!
Rail is shot, needs total repair,but no funds
I don't care what problems they had with these units. I like them .and because they had problems with it, they still would get down and pull and with proper TLC, these units were actually really good locomotives. Criticize them all you want,some of these girls are still in operation on the Mexican railroads just south of the border.
Love Alco s
I love how most Alcoa thrash on some parts when revving up like the class 37
I do too, but I can’t help but wonder if English Electric copied ALCo’s design to some degree.
@SouRwy4501Productions maybe all I care about is how much these companies love to pollute with beautiful loud diesel locos
The CV must have really liked the rs11 cause they bought some 14 from the DWP. Also I'm a GM guy but the RS11 is a nice loco especially in green and gold
If I remember correctly, the CV was a spin off of the DWP, to handle the American side of the CN's business, who also owned the DWP at that point. Canada was going through a privatizing area and the railroads were no exceptions.
@@alcobufff The CV wasn't a spinoff of the DW&P--the CV had its own history, going back to the 1870's, completely independent of the DW&P. You're correct that both the CV and DW&P were CN subsidiaries, however. No doubt the common corporate parent did play a role in the DW&P RS-11's migrating to the CV.
You forgot to mention SAL had a few RS11s that were sold to L&N in 1976 ;D
Good news and bad news. The footage I was looking for was not actually there. Fortunately I am able to return to get new footage. If you have anything specific you want me to film just reply.
I can do the builders plate, bogies and distance shots.
I can maybe do walkways but not the cab or interior engine.
I like Old alco s
How many RS-11 are still working in 2022???
Come over to Argentina to find them hard at work
I rember those packets LMFAO 😅😂😂🤤 I Remember those it was a packet filled with some type of Powder with a little Nicholas pouch that had some form of liquid in it. Instructions said take the pouch and squeeze it until it breaks. Then throw pouch 10 to 15 seconds later, it will blow. The smell was atrocious Absolutely disgusting It smelt like you just s*** your pants. I put this in my teacher's desk and his Jacket pocket. Everybody in the classroom started laughing and said Mr. Johnson just shit himself lmfao 🤣
RobrIguez ARGENTINA
Why are they angry with Alco?
I enjoyed the video very detailed well put together and very well done. However there is a Mistruth in the ideology behind long hood forward operations the N&W and Southern Railway preferred engines Highhood and LHF for two reasons the first is eliminating the need to turn the locomotives as the locomotive if LHF didn’t have to be turned for visibility of line side signals specifically when MU-ed together the other is the high hood keeps from early AAR locomotive operation rules which in the early days required locomotives with short hoods as they were not common practice required that they must face forward utilizing the forward windows wherever possible these two factors eliminated the meeting of this requirement. While it had the added benefit of being safer for the crew this was not the reason nor the case. Railroads historically have never had much consideration for crew comfort or safety
Legal 👍😃👍
Here's an idea for a future video, GP9 VS RS11.
Sounds like a good Idea. Thank You!
@@alcobufff You are very welcome.
TBA NCA FEPSA ALL ARGENTINA
Great film, ALCO killed itself!
If you are throttled up to notch 8 while switching, you’re greatly abusing the locomotive. No need for that.