So great! I’m sure you have said this in another video, but just wanted to drop a reminder here. One way we distract ourselves from the sensation is to question “why is this happening?” Or trying to tie the sensation to a memory. Sometimes that can become more clear after the sensation passes, but when you’re in the middle of it don’t go down the “why” path! Focus on the what.
Love that this video from four years ago shows up for me when these things, somatic healing, is occurring for me. Such a validation that I am moving stuff and it’s ready and I recognize it. ❤ thank you!
We were attacked a few years ago, they tortured me infront of my child. I did not feel any pain for days. My imune system broke down 3 years later. Since listening to you videos i had real pain all over as if the torturing was a day away
Hi Althia, Seth here with Team Lyon. I'm so sorry to hear about this, I can't imagine anything more painful for you and your family. It sounds like your system did it's best to protect you by going into freeze, and now, as you come into contact with this education, it is sparking a thawing of that freeze, which means that the painful memories and sensations can come back. In a way, this is actually very positive, as it means that your system is ready to come back to life, but at the same time it can be very scary and painful. So, I'll encourage you to go slow, and don't watch a video every day - maybe a couple a week at most. Also, it could be helpful to seek out the assistance of a good somatic practitioner, or consider Irene's online programs, but either way, you will want to go very slow and easy. Here's a couple links that may be useful... How to find a good somatic practitioner - ua-cam.com/video/04XF7ANnqGk/v-deo.html Irene's online programs - irenelyon.com/programs/
Hey Anna, Seth here from Team Lyon. Great observation. Yes, one way that is easy to understand this is by thinking of tension as a box, especially chronic tension. Those places where we hold chronic pain and tension are the boxes that hold our anger, anxiety, worry, grief, etc... When we open the box, out comes the stuff!
@@teamlyon3109 I'm not an angry person... I think I was holding anxiety stress depression... But for three days the anger I felt was an awful feeling... i kept it to myself I knew it would go. Thanks for responding 😄❤
@@RoxiTube1 it’s amazing to see how much people disown their anger. Everyone hates to be seen or known as an “angry person” because most of us got that message growing up that we’re not allowed to be angry. Did you get that message? It’s a big collective shadow. F course you’re an angry person m’dear we all are. We all have anger it’s a normal, healthy, and necessary emotion needed to set clear boundaries.
@@sonja7halcyon I'm not a angry person... though life can be suffering I feel fear anxiety and depression after I am around angry people... who try to be over bearing and want me to submit to them. Anger should be a emotion a message and should be thought through and verbalized in a loving and compassionate way making understanding and problem solving .... rather people's brain kind of sparks up usually out of control like thunder and lightning ....barrage of abuse
I've heard of trembling "therapy" where you get these trembles and it's your body's way of shaking trauma out of the body. I've also heard you might need a professional with you when this happens incase you can't come out of it on your own. What would you recommend if this happens when you do these exercises at home alone? Will it just stop by its own? I've never experienced it so I have no idea but it's something that is worrying me a bit. Wanted to also thank you for these videos! I recently discovered you and I'm binging everything. So fascinating to learn how your nervous system works - I'm hooked! 💝💝
Hi Riikka. Yes, a trembling response can happen sometimes, but it's actually much less common than people make out. This is one thing that can happen when a sympathetic charge dissipates, and for the bulk of the population, that is just a fraction of the kind of trauma they are holding. Yes, if it comes on naturally, it will stop naturally, and it should be embraced and not feared, for it is the body healing at a deep level. There are modalities out there that try to induce a trembling response and we do NOT recommend those, as that can overwhelm someone. Please have a read of this article of mine for more details... sethlyon.com/no-exercise-heals-trauma/
Youre videos and team is so great! The little help i get from answers. My english is bad so i dont understand all what you say on the videos. How can you re connected witb the world? And what is the feeling if i closed my eyes its empty, if there is nobody!? Im so disconected from the world, im obessed with it...... The derealization... what can i do!?
Can PLEASE someone help me? I have the feeling of severe disconnection from the world for 2years(now its severe) and nnow also i have the feeling i dont recognize my own hands and feets, if i watching i dont know who is watching, if i lost my indentity.. is this hypoaroused? And what can i do!? Please.... and yes i got help but they dont understamd
Hi @@unknown-8696 - You are totally right that what you are experiencing is a symptom. 'Depersonalization' is like almost every other label we get from Psychology and Psychiatry - we now know pretty much all 'mental disorders' have the same root cause which is unresolved trauma and the autonomic nervous system dysregulation that comes with it. What you are experiencing is the mental state that comes with the physiology of the freeze response, and as you accurately said - the freeze response is pretty much the peak of survival response arousal, as it only comes on once fight and flight have been unsuccessful. This means our system thinks we are about to die, and that is why we are dissociated - to help ease the pain of that experience. Handy when it's actually life and death, but not so much when we are actually NOT about to die. I'm going to share a few resources that may be useful for you. Essentially what needs to happen though, is to start doing some good, nervous system based trauma work in whatever way that works for you. I recommend starting with Irene's 21-Day Nervous System Tuneup, as that will give you all the basics in terms of education and solid practices. Then you will be more informed about what to look for in a practitioner should you decide to go that route. irenelyon.com/tuneup/ ua-cam.com/video/0ICsbXUCKmM/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/9EyqPOI3auk/v-deo.html
@@teamlyon3109 thankyou for answer! The fact is, my english is really bad. So if i pay for this, i do not understand it at all.... Is there any tip i can do about the depersonalization? And derealization? Is it coming more in my body? And re connecting with the evorement?
Hi @@misstroll , Seth here from team Lyon. I totally appreciate your intention to help here, and I suggest you read this article... irenelyon.com/2012/12/24/did-you-know-that-taking-a-deep-breath-to-relax-is-actually-counter-productive/
Hi @Ashley Andrews, Seth here from Team Lyon. Sorry to hear about the high anxiety. These resources may be useful... irenelyon.com/tuneup/ ua-cam.com/video/0ICsbXUCKmM/v-deo.html irenelyon.com/4-steps-to-calm-overwhelm/
So great! I’m sure you have said this in another video, but just wanted to drop a reminder here. One way we distract ourselves from the sensation is to question “why is this happening?” Or trying to tie the sensation to a memory. Sometimes that can become more clear after the sensation passes, but when you’re in the middle of it don’t go down the “why” path! Focus on the what.
Thanks.
Love that this video from four years ago shows up for me when these things, somatic healing, is occurring for me. Such a validation that I am moving stuff and it’s ready and I recognize it. ❤ thank you!
What would I do without your videos man. Just discovered you recently and I’m like where have you been all my life lol.
You are great... thank you so much for all your hard work.. we can heal...
This was very helpful, clear, and reassuring. Thank You!
We were attacked a few years ago, they tortured me infront of my child. I did not feel any pain for days. My imune system broke down 3 years later. Since listening to you videos i had real pain all over as if the torturing was a day away
Hi Althia, Seth here with Team Lyon. I'm so sorry to hear about this, I can't imagine anything more painful for you and your family. It sounds like your system did it's best to protect you by going into freeze, and now, as you come into contact with this education, it is sparking a thawing of that freeze, which means that the painful memories and sensations can come back. In a way, this is actually very positive, as it means that your system is ready to come back to life, but at the same time it can be very scary and painful. So, I'll encourage you to go slow, and don't watch a video every day - maybe a couple a week at most. Also, it could be helpful to seek out the assistance of a good somatic practitioner, or consider Irene's online programs, but either way, you will want to go very slow and easy. Here's a couple links that may be useful...
How to find a good somatic practitioner - ua-cam.com/video/04XF7ANnqGk/v-deo.html
Irene's online programs - irenelyon.com/programs/
Great work. Very important. Definitely tuned into your channel.
happy new year thanks for sharing this information
Sooo good!! Thanks 🙏🏽🌹
Great video - thanks!
I was relaxing my shoulders two week ago....
... then I started feeling angery for three days....
I never show anger think it was a block.
Hey Anna, Seth here from Team Lyon. Great observation. Yes, one way that is easy to understand this is by thinking of tension as a box, especially chronic tension. Those places where we hold chronic pain and tension are the boxes that hold our anger, anxiety, worry, grief, etc... When we open the box, out comes the stuff!
@@teamlyon3109 I'm not an angry person... I think I was holding anxiety stress depression...
But for three days the anger I felt was an awful feeling... i kept it to myself I knew it would go.
Thanks for responding 😄❤
@@RoxiTube1 it’s amazing to see how much people disown their anger. Everyone hates to be seen or known as an “angry person” because most of us got that message growing up that we’re not allowed to be angry. Did you get that message? It’s a big collective shadow. F course you’re an angry person m’dear we all are. We all have anger it’s a normal, healthy, and necessary emotion needed to set clear boundaries.
@@sonja7halcyon I'm not a angry person... though life can be suffering
I feel fear anxiety and depression after I am around angry people... who try to be over bearing and want me to submit to them.
Anger should be a emotion a message and should be thought through and verbalized in a loving and compassionate way making understanding and problem solving .... rather people's brain kind of sparks up usually out of control like thunder and lightning ....barrage of abuse
This is so good 😊🙏
I've heard of trembling "therapy" where you get these trembles and it's your body's way of shaking trauma out of the body. I've also heard you might need a professional with you when this happens incase you can't come out of it on your own. What would you recommend if this happens when you do these exercises at home alone? Will it just stop by its own? I've never experienced it so I have no idea but it's something that is worrying me a bit. Wanted to also thank you for these videos! I recently discovered you and I'm binging everything. So fascinating to learn how your nervous system works - I'm hooked! 💝💝
Hi Riikka. Yes, a trembling response can happen sometimes, but it's actually much less common than people make out. This is one thing that can happen when a sympathetic charge dissipates, and for the bulk of the population, that is just a fraction of the kind of trauma they are holding.
Yes, if it comes on naturally, it will stop naturally, and it should be embraced and not feared, for it is the body healing at a deep level. There are modalities out there that try to induce a trembling response and we do NOT recommend those, as that can overwhelm someone. Please have a read of this article of mine for more details... sethlyon.com/no-exercise-heals-trauma/
Very, very helpful!
Youre videos and team is so great! The little help i get from answers. My english is bad so i dont understand all what you say on the videos.
How can you re connected witb the world? And what is the feeling if i closed my eyes its empty, if there is nobody!? Im so disconected from the world, im obessed with it......
The derealization... what can i do!?
Hi healthlife style - please see my answer to your other comment below :)
Is ancestral or intergenerational stored in the somatic procedural memory?
I also want to know that, Thomas Hübl investigates this topic deeply.
TRE release seems to be slowly helping with the intensity of this
Can PLEASE someone help me?
I have the feeling of severe disconnection from the world for 2years(now its severe) and nnow also i have the feeling i dont recognize my own hands and feets, if i watching i dont know who is watching, if i lost my indentity.. is this hypoaroused? And what can i do!? Please.... and yes i got help but they dont understamd
@Ali Syed i was that so far.......
And its not a disorder! Its a symptom.....
Hi @@unknown-8696 - You are totally right that what you are experiencing is a symptom. 'Depersonalization' is like almost every other label we get from Psychology and Psychiatry - we now know pretty much all 'mental disorders' have the same root cause which is unresolved trauma and the autonomic nervous system dysregulation that comes with it. What you are experiencing is the mental state that comes with the physiology of the freeze response, and as you accurately said - the freeze response is pretty much the peak of survival response arousal, as it only comes on once fight and flight have been unsuccessful. This means our system thinks we are about to die, and that is why we are dissociated - to help ease the pain of that experience. Handy when it's actually life and death, but not so much when we are actually NOT about to die.
I'm going to share a few resources that may be useful for you. Essentially what needs to happen though, is to start doing some good, nervous system based trauma work in whatever way that works for you. I recommend starting with Irene's 21-Day Nervous System Tuneup, as that will give you all the basics in terms of education and solid practices. Then you will be more informed about what to look for in a practitioner should you decide to go that route.
irenelyon.com/tuneup/
ua-cam.com/video/0ICsbXUCKmM/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/9EyqPOI3auk/v-deo.html
@@teamlyon3109 thankyou for answer! The fact is, my english is really bad. So if i pay for this, i do not understand it at all....
Is there any tip i can do about the depersonalization? And derealization? Is it coming more in my body? And re connecting with the evorement?
And i dont understand the video about a safe spot in youre body., how can i find that spot? What did that do if i find a relax spot like my ear?
I shake like that all the time. Thats what im wanting to release because my knew nuero thinks that is what it is
Trying to get to the point to where i dont pass out and seize anymore
So much anxiety right now
Ashley... you will be okay.. take a deep breath and know that this will pass. Be safe
Ashley Andrews CBD oil has helped me greatly get through those anxious periods.
Hi @@misstroll , Seth here from team Lyon. I totally appreciate your intention to help here, and I suggest you read this article... irenelyon.com/2012/12/24/did-you-know-that-taking-a-deep-breath-to-relax-is-actually-counter-productive/
Hi @Ashley Andrews, Seth here from Team Lyon. Sorry to hear about the high anxiety. These resources may be useful...
irenelyon.com/tuneup/
ua-cam.com/video/0ICsbXUCKmM/v-deo.html
irenelyon.com/4-steps-to-calm-overwhelm/