Same generator. Has sat for a while. I was starting it every other week and letting it run but haven’t been lately…going to order battery first and see if that with a new spark plug gets it running…if still not running I’ll get a new carburetor. Thanks for explaining how to replace both.
You may just have a bit of bad gas in the carburetor bowl. I would suggest draining the carburetor bowl (side screw on the carburetor to drain it easily) and flush the fuel through from the tank to get good gas into the carburetor. Then try and start it. If the engine is spinning when you turn the key to the crank position? the battery is fine. If it does not crank over when turning the key to crank, then charge it before replacing it. The battery may or may not take a charge pending on how old it is and condition of it.
I have that exact generator. Your video tutorial is first rate. The reason that I am watching is that my generator is hunting (continuous, light flickers, etc.) and backfiring (occasionally) while idling and under load. I estimate that it has only 200 hours or less on that unit. Until recently, I was using 10% ethanol and using StaBil when storing it. I went to non ethanol about 2 years ago, but it doesn't get used often. I took the air filter off and didn't see much gumming in the carb, and I sprayed a lot of Gumout Carb cleaner, and I looked at the fuel switch and the "bell" and funnel and it is OK, the air filter was breaking up when I took it out and I replaced it.... SO... it is still doing it. Is it worth just replacing the carb? it will cost less than taking it to the dealer. Once again, your video was A++++. (Oh, the fuel is brand new)
The engine is running lean do to gas going bad inside the carburetor. It’s not the gas in the tank that you need to worry about, it’s the gas sitting in the carburetor that goes bad quickly from sitting without use. Replace the carburetor and it will run correctly. You need to run your machine once a month for twenty minutes at a time to make sure your carburetor from having issues.
@@JohnsonsSmallEngines Thanx again. No problems at all with the new carb installation. However it is now running worse, it won't run at all with the choke is off, when the choke is on and with auto throttle is off, it runs high rpm (no hunting), with the auto throttle is on (choke on), it is now hunting (badly) and backfires occasionally. I just looked at it, and the gasket is not put back correctly!! SORRY!! I will let you know how it is running after I have corrected it.
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Learned so much from this video alone! Thanks. So while attempting to check the carburetor 6:11 this specific bolt is he only one not coming out, it just spins, ive attempted to try pitting a screw driver in it, no luck, ive pulled on the plastic while spinning to try to get some force but nothing. Any tips?
You need to do what is needed to get it apart. If you must ruin the housing, it is what it is. Get all the other bolts out then pull the stuck bolt. It sounds like the nut spun in the plastic. Not much I can help with but you gotta do what you gotta do.
@@JohnsonsSmallEngines thats what i was thinking. Snapping it off and ordering the part/replacing it. But before i got rough with it had to make sure there wasnt anything else i can do, Thanks.
Thanks for the great video. I also have a EM6500SX with an annoying surging problem. I’m a small engine mechanic so I did all the usual troubleshooting. I’m actually fairly certain the problem is located in the electromechanical controls as my carb is spotless and only tan on ethanol-free. Have you encountered more failures of this type? Thanks!!
I have not come across any issues with the electronics. Even if it’s the electronics. You still get the carburetor when you purchase it. My opinion, the surging is from lack of fuel. It’s the carburetor.
@@JohnsonsSmallEngines Thanks and that was my assessment as well. The surging is eliminated with a touch of choke. I cleaned cleaned and recleaned the carb with no luck. There's no air adjustments from what I can see and the main jet is set, so I just bit the bullet for the whole carb. Thanks again for the video. Bob
Follow up incase anyone needs it, my surging was caused by the thermostat of sorts on the carb, it's the heater that trims the choke. I took a few measurements to verify the difference. It's a nice carb and surprisingly affordable from Honda. Just around $170 shipped.
I just noticed that this question was for the other gentleman, but it does look like he did replace the carburetor. I would suggest definitely replacing it then you should definitely make sure that you have fresh gas in the fuel tank and flush the fuel lines before allowing fuel to flow into the new carburetor. You just want to make sure you have fresh gas going to the new carburetor. You will need to get on a program of running your generator every 45 to 60 days for 20 to 30 minutes at a time to make sure that you never have this problem again, when fuel sits in the carburetor for a long time, it goes bad quickly in small quantities and will ruin the carburetor.
Thank you! It’s really bad inside. With generators, if they surge at all (if the carburetor doesn’t rebuild) you have a chance of potentially hurting electric appliances etc. I will keep it for parts.
Holy crap the customer elected to replace the carb rather than clean it??! Thats over a $240 USD carb! Granted the stepper motor assembly cannot be separated from the carb itself, but unless that stepper assembly was burned/shorted, I would have tried cleaning the carb first before dropping mad money on it. Great repair though!
Thanks for watching and commenting! If generators surge just a little bit, you can have issues with all your electronics so rebuilding that carburetor was a no brainer. The inside was horrible and no amount of rebuilding it would have worked. Carburetor cost was $120.00
@@JohnsonsSmallEngines wow they came down in price. The last I checked that entire assembly was nearly $300 with shipping and tax. Sucks that Honda did not sell just the carburetor and the stepper motor assembly separately.
I don't know if you're going to respond to this I have one I'm working on it starts for about 40 seconds and every other considerate start after that it's less and less
Check to make sure you’re running the machine on level ground and the oil level is correct. if the oil level is low most generators have a low oil shut down. If the generator is right on the verge of having low oil, you can get what you’re explaining. If that isn’t it, you have a fuel issue not getting enough fuel to the carburetor or your carburetor has problems.
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Same generator. Has sat for a while. I was starting it every other week and letting it run but haven’t been lately…going to order battery first and see if that with a new spark plug gets it running…if still not running I’ll get a new carburetor. Thanks for explaining how to replace both.
You may just have a bit of bad gas in the carburetor bowl. I would suggest draining the carburetor bowl (side screw on the carburetor to drain it easily) and flush the fuel through from the tank to get good gas into the carburetor. Then try and start it. If the engine is spinning when you turn the key to the crank position? the battery is fine. If it does not crank over when turning the key to crank, then charge it before replacing it. The battery may or may not take a charge pending on how old it is and condition of it.
What a gem of a tutorial! thank you, sir.
I’m glad it was helpful and thank you for the kind comment!
I have that exact generator. Your video tutorial is first rate. The reason that I am watching is that my generator is hunting (continuous, light flickers, etc.) and backfiring (occasionally) while idling and under load. I estimate that it has only 200 hours or less on that unit. Until recently, I was using 10% ethanol and using StaBil when storing it. I went to non ethanol about 2 years ago, but it doesn't get used often. I took the air filter off and didn't see much gumming in the carb, and I sprayed a lot of Gumout Carb cleaner, and I looked at the fuel switch and the "bell" and funnel and it is OK, the air filter was breaking up when I took it out and I replaced it.... SO... it is still doing it. Is it worth just replacing the carb? it will cost less than taking it to the dealer. Once again, your video was A++++. (Oh, the fuel is brand new)
The engine is running lean do to gas going bad inside the carburetor. It’s not the gas in the tank that you need to worry about, it’s the gas sitting in the carburetor that goes bad quickly from sitting without use. Replace the carburetor and it will run correctly. You need to run your machine once a month for twenty minutes at a time to make sure your carburetor from having issues.
@@JohnsonsSmallEngines Thanx again. No problems at all with the new carb installation. However it is now running worse, it won't run at all with the choke is off, when the choke is on and with auto throttle is off, it runs high rpm (no hunting), with the auto throttle is on (choke on), it is now hunting (badly) and backfires occasionally. I just looked at it, and the gasket is not put back correctly!! SORRY!! I will let you know how it is running after I have corrected it.
Incredibly precise video. Thank you!
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WOW i was about to give up and trow it on the garbage thank you sir you help me alot.
I’m glad you did not throw away!! It is a very good machine and things happen!! I hope you are able to get it going again.
Excellent tutorial..Thank you
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Great tutorial!
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Learned so much from this video alone! Thanks. So while attempting to check the carburetor 6:11 this specific bolt is he only one not coming out, it just spins, ive attempted to try pitting a screw driver in it, no luck, ive pulled on the plastic while spinning to try to get some force but nothing. Any tips?
You need to do what is needed to get it apart. If you must ruin the housing, it is what it is. Get all the other bolts out then pull the stuck bolt. It sounds like the nut spun in the plastic. Not much I can help with but you gotta do what you gotta do.
@@JohnsonsSmallEngines thats what i was thinking. Snapping it off and ordering the part/replacing it. But before i got rough with it had to make sure there wasnt anything else i can do, Thanks.
Great Video..
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I'm glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the great video. I also have a EM6500SX with an annoying surging problem. I’m a small engine mechanic so I did all the usual troubleshooting. I’m actually fairly certain the problem is located in the electromechanical controls as my carb is spotless and only tan on ethanol-free. Have you encountered more failures of this type? Thanks!!
I have not come across any issues with the electronics. Even if it’s the electronics. You still get the carburetor when you purchase it. My opinion, the surging is from lack of fuel. It’s the carburetor.
@@JohnsonsSmallEngines Thanks and that was my assessment as well. The surging is eliminated with a touch of choke. I cleaned cleaned and recleaned the carb with no luck. There's no air adjustments from what I can see and the main jet is set, so I just bit the bullet for the whole carb. Thanks again for the video. Bob
Follow up incase anyone needs it, my surging was caused by the thermostat of sorts on the carb, it's the heater that trims the choke. I took a few measurements to verify the difference. It's a nice carb and surprisingly affordable from Honda. Just around $170 shipped.
@@BobWilson84Did you change the carburetor? I have the same problem. Is it fixed now? I’m planning to change the carburetor so please let me know
I just noticed that this question was for the other gentleman, but it does look like he did replace the carburetor. I would suggest definitely replacing it then you should definitely make sure that you have fresh gas in the fuel tank and flush the fuel lines before allowing fuel to flow into the new carburetor. You just want to make sure you have fresh gas going to the new carburetor. You will need to get on a program of running your generator every 45 to 60 days for 20 to 30 minutes at a time to make sure that you never have this problem again, when fuel sits in the carburetor for a long time, it goes bad quickly in small quantities and will ruin the carburetor.
Nice video. Are you going to try and rebuild that carb for another use? Thanks
Thank you! It’s really bad inside. With generators, if they surge at all (if the carburetor doesn’t rebuild) you have a chance of potentially hurting electric appliances etc. I will keep it for parts.
Thank you!. :)
I'm glad it was helpful!
Very helpful video. I have the same generator and need to replace the carburetor. Do you have that part number?
amzn.to/3Oqo3aY. Part# Honda 16100-Z1C-D24
Holy crap the customer elected to replace the carb rather than clean it??! Thats over a $240 USD carb! Granted the stepper motor assembly cannot be separated from the carb itself, but unless that stepper assembly was burned/shorted, I would have tried cleaning the carb first before dropping mad money on it. Great repair though!
Thanks for watching and commenting! If generators surge just a little bit, you can have issues with all your electronics so rebuilding that carburetor was a no brainer. The inside was horrible and no amount of rebuilding it would have worked. Carburetor cost was $120.00
@@JohnsonsSmallEngines wow they came down in price. The last I checked that entire assembly was nearly $300 with shipping and tax. Sucks that Honda did not sell just the carburetor and the stepper motor assembly separately.
Thanks man
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I don't know if you're going to respond to this I have one I'm working on it starts for about 40 seconds and every other considerate start after that it's less and less
I thought it was the coil wasn't and it wasn't the spark plug
Check to make sure you’re running the machine on level ground and the oil level is correct. if the oil level is low most generators have a low oil shut down. If the generator is right on the verge of having low oil, you can get what you’re explaining. If that isn’t it, you have a fuel issue not getting enough fuel to the carburetor or your carburetor has problems.
nice job
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