Joseph: Mama! Napoleon won’t share his empire! Letitzia: Napoleon! Share your empire with your brothers and sisters. Napoleon: But MAMA!! Letitizia: Now Napoleon! Or you’ll be grounded in Elba again!
How common was it to be the only child back in those old days, considering that 5-6 kids seems to be the average? Maybe Lindsay could make a video on this topic? 😂
True, I don't get a sense that he spent much time with them since he was sent to school in France at only 9. So he may have had gotten 'only child' personality even though he technically wasn't an only child.
Joseph is such an interesting case to me. He seems like he just wanted a comfortable, luxurious life of...whatever, and was content to let his younger brother take the helm as head of the family, even as it dragged him to some pretty wild places. Not a lot of 19th century men would be so chill.
I'm currently reading Adam Zamoyski's book on Napoleon and he kind of agrees with this in the early part of the book (still reading so I don't know if it will be the same later). One example he gives is after the "whiff of grapeshot" incident and Josephs marriage, Napoleon got into trading economics and would request his brother to buy with his new dowry certain materials to try and make a massive profit, since he knew from government documents where each resource's would be selling well. Joseph however ignored all of Napoleons requests which went on for a few months, mostly because he just didn't give a shit and was living a happy peaceful life with his new bride.
I guess he was always aware that his younger brother had the more exceptional talent that took him far in his career. Politics isn’t a game for the weak.
Napoleon's siblings are quite interesting. I can't believe I missed this video! Seems like the Bonapartes are one of those families who are ambitious and destined for greatness!
It was a good idea to include the bit about Bernadotte. The turbulent relationship between Napoleon and Bernadotte often put Joseph into a precarious position not only because Joseph was brother-in-law to Bernadotte, but because they had been friends even prior to the marriage of Desiree to Jean Baptiste. What is not often covered in histories is the intense correspondence between Napoleon, Joseph and Carl Johan in the last year of Napoleon's first reign. The air was thick with intrigues as Napoleon tried to win back Bernadotte's favor and he went through Joseph quite often. What is often left out of modern histories since WWI is the relationship Bernadotte had with Napoleon's siblings and mother. In short, they all adored him, probably because he was the one man who stood up to Napoleon, and often times when Napoleon and Bernadotte were on the outs, the Bonaparte sibling and Madame Mere would take Bernadotte's side, infuriating the Emperor. Add to all this volatility, that until 1808, Napoleon quietly considered Bernadotte his heir in the event of an early death prior to the birth of a son. The reason was twofold: 1) Napoleon believed only Bernadotte had the military and political skill to maintain the Empire. Whereas he had marshals who were talented generals, none had the political skills and experience as Bernadotte. 2) Because of Bernadotte's relationship as in-law to Joseph, and his friendships with other Bonaparte siblings, Napoleon felt he was the only marshal, other than Murat, who would protect his family no matter what. Finally, as an extra tidbit: Napoleon considered Bernadotte for King of Spain. However, Bernadotte said he had no desire to be a king unless chosen openly by the nation in question, and declined. Napoleon felt that Murat was not up to the task, so in the end it came down to Joseph, who, as mentioned, who was not pleased to trade kingdoms.
This is so interesting. I went to high school with a Bonaparte. Mario Bonaparte was a cool kid; the last time I saw him, he worked at a convincence store in 1994.
Maria Anna passes away 2nd Maria Anna passes away the same day she was born 3rd Maria Anna passes away four months later 4th Maria Anna (nervous laughter)
And again another great video! Reminds me of the year 2009, when I discovered the book "The Golden Bees" by Daniel Henderson and read it within one afternoon, bc it was utterly captivating. It's a family biography about the Bonapartes in chronological order and I wouldn't be surprised if it served as a source for this video.
Maybe in a future video you can expound on Bernadotte's story. His life story is actually very interesting. He actually had a brief stint as France's Minister of War and his becoming Crown Prince of Sweden was an attractive option because aside from his military reputation and the fact that Sweden wanted to be in good terms with Napoleon, he treated kindly the Swedish Prisoners of War at Lubeck. Also, fun fact, his wife actually refused to live with him in Sweden because she found Sweden to be cold and refused to convert to Lutheranism. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_XIV_John
Desiree was a first-class kook! She'd visit the opera after the performance was finished, drive her carriage through the streets in the middle of the night, and invite street urchins into the palace to give them candy. I wonder if Princess Kate identifies with her? (Another case of a girl from a "new money" family marrying into royalty...)
As coronation is approaching closer , why don't you make a videos on "The Grand Delhi Darbar" . The only time when a British monarch was crowned outside Europe!!!!
The Indian audience will not appreciate this attempt to glorify British imperialism. The Indians are still salty over Britain's refusal to hand back the Koh-i-noor & blocking India's bid for permanent UNSC seat. Victoria & Edward VII never set foot in India & were crowned by proxy through their Governor-Generals. George V attended the Durbar after being duly coronated as British monarch, so your notion that the British monarch was crowned from India is completely baseless. By the time George VI came, the onset of WW2, financial constraints & growing struggle for independence made the Indian masses reluctant to satisfy the ego of the British monarch. Besides there was nothing unique in the coronation ceremonies of the Delhi Durbar. It was a plain imitation of the British coronation ceremony, the only exception was that the British king would receive homage from the Indian princes on this occasion, issued medals for outstanding public works & bestow knighthoods into the Order of the Indian Empire & Order of Star of India upon 'loyal' Indians. Both the orders were junior in terms of precedence & no Indian was ever incorporated into senior orders like that of the Garter or of the Thistle.
It is true that perhaps most Indians might not like it but at the the it was a one of the most spectacular ceremony world has ever seen . They even had a new Imperial crown of India made .....
@@anubratabit3027 I’d actually say perhaps making a video on the 1911 Delhi Durbar be an opportunity for Lindsay to discuss the results and the effects of British colonialism and how the event was used as a symbol of western colonial rule. Doing a video of such an event could go both ways. It can be discussed in a delicate diplomatic way or used to condemn western oppression.
What I'd like to know is why did Napoleon take his brother from the Nalpes when he was doing so well over there? It's not like he didn't have other family members or subordinates that could do the job in Spain for him.
Great video! The tension between Napoleon and his siblings seems like great material for a "Horrible Histories" sketch. However, the only one I found with the family in it, made them seem very chummy.ua-cam.com/video/o_fzz9RvkS8/v-deo.html
I wouldn't call Joseph an enlightened despot he sounded great for Italy and I'd say his brother was more despotic than him..and actually Napoleon wasn't short..he was actually pretty tall for a male back then Napoleon was actually about 5 ft 9 or 10 back then..and according to the history show mysteries at the museum which actually does research like you too..the actual theory is Napoleon died of hemorrhoids but did have stomach issues on top of that and he died of that and possible sepsis as well
Idk where u got 5 foot 9 or 10 from but after converting his actual height in french units almost all sources say 5'6.5 aka 1.69m. Bout the average for the time.
It has been unlisted for awhile, and some people myself included found it on a random playlist of Lindsey's. She started receiving comments on the video and unpublished it when she realized.
Jean Baptiste Bernadotte - not Jean Bernadotte. And more interesting would see any take care what happen to Napoleons siblings children One ended up in Sweden for ex.
I'm distant related to Caroline's first husband, Joachim Murat... distantly. Essentially almost irrelevantly related. It's more a "party trick" useless factoid than anything but kind of interesting to me. LOL.....
Joseph: Mama! Napoleon won’t share his empire!
Letitzia: Napoleon! Share your empire with your brothers and sisters.
Napoleon: But MAMA!!
Letitizia: Now Napoleon! Or you’ll be grounded in Elba again!
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This is hilarious ngl
Napoleon gives only child vibes for me so im surprised to learn that he has siblings
How common was it to be the only child back in those old days, considering that 5-6 kids seems to be the average? Maybe Lindsay could make a video on this topic? 😂
@@est9949 it was pretty rare
No like as an only child I'm shocked
True, I don't get a sense that he spent much time with them since he was sent to school in France at only 9. So he may have had gotten 'only child' personality even though he technically wasn't an only child.
@@est9949 She should do one for our only child community
Joseph is such an interesting case to me. He seems like he just wanted a comfortable, luxurious life of...whatever, and was content to let his younger brother take the helm as head of the family, even as it dragged him to some pretty wild places. Not a lot of 19th century men would be so chill.
I'm currently reading Adam Zamoyski's book on Napoleon and he kind of agrees with this in the early part of the book (still reading so I don't know if it will be the same later). One example he gives is after the "whiff of grapeshot" incident and Josephs marriage, Napoleon got into trading economics and would request his brother to buy with his new dowry certain materials to try and make a massive profit, since he knew from government documents where each resource's would be selling well. Joseph however ignored all of Napoleons requests which went on for a few months, mostly because he just didn't give a shit and was living a happy peaceful life with his new bride.
I guess he was always aware that his younger brother had the more exceptional talent that took him far in his career. Politics isn’t a game for the weak.
@@bm9727really? Pretty much a game of the stupid & the sociopathic from what I see.
@@Thomas.3698 haha!
Napoleon's siblings are quite interesting. I can't believe I missed this video! Seems like the Bonapartes are one of those families who are ambitious and destined for greatness!
Wait, 5 months ago?
@@misspupperton prolly exclusive acces somehow ? patreon??
@@misspupperton or actually idk, it doesnt seem like that when i read the comments further.... maybe it was hidden somehow
@@sweet__cherryshe had it on unlisted in her royal history playlists- I was scrolling through it when I found this treasure! It is actually 1y old!
I love how relatable Napoleon and Lucian’s sibling relationship is 😹
It was a good idea to include the bit about Bernadotte. The turbulent relationship between Napoleon and Bernadotte often put Joseph into a precarious position not only because Joseph was brother-in-law to Bernadotte, but because they had been friends even prior to the marriage of Desiree to Jean Baptiste. What is not often covered in histories is the intense correspondence between Napoleon, Joseph and Carl Johan in the last year of Napoleon's first reign. The air was thick with intrigues as Napoleon tried to win back Bernadotte's favor and he went through Joseph quite often. What is often left out of modern histories since WWI is the relationship Bernadotte had with Napoleon's siblings and mother. In short, they all adored him, probably because he was the one man who stood up to Napoleon, and often times when Napoleon and Bernadotte were on the outs, the Bonaparte sibling and Madame Mere would take Bernadotte's side, infuriating the Emperor. Add to all this volatility, that until 1808, Napoleon quietly considered Bernadotte his heir in the event of an early death prior to the birth of a son. The reason was twofold: 1) Napoleon believed only Bernadotte had the military and political skill to maintain the Empire. Whereas he had marshals who were talented generals, none had the political skills and experience as Bernadotte. 2) Because of Bernadotte's relationship as in-law to Joseph, and his friendships with other Bonaparte siblings, Napoleon felt he was the only marshal, other than Murat, who would protect his family no matter what. Finally, as an extra tidbit: Napoleon considered Bernadotte for King of Spain. However, Bernadotte said he had no desire to be a king unless chosen openly by the nation in question, and declined. Napoleon felt that Murat was not up to the task, so in the end it came down to Joseph, who, as mentioned, who was not pleased to trade kingdoms.
Carl Johan and Desiree's son later married Josephine's granddaughter.
Yes! The Bonaparte siblings have their spot to shine!
Would be nice to see a video on the parents of the Bonaparte children
@@HORSEYANIME2024 maybe even the children of all the bonapartes
Every time I hear about Napoleon being exiled all I can this is
"🎶 But he came back🎶".
Idk why, but if part 2 was gonna be called “Younger and Dumber” I would honestly laugh lowkey 😭
😂😂😂😂
It’s called Baby Bonapartes 😭😭😭
thank you for doing this! Even some of his siblings were against his plans, Napoleon still cared for them
Fun fact: Actor Rene Auberjonis who planed Odo in Star Trek is a descent of Caroline.
I'm lecturing on Napoleon today. Such a rollercoaster of a life he had! I even made a short lecture with my 4 year old about Napoleon
Its very respectable how Lucien stood up for himself
Seeing comments from five months ago now makes me appreciate Lindsay’s content more.
This is so interesting. I went to high school with a Bonaparte. Mario Bonaparte was a cool kid; the last time I saw him, he worked at a convincence store in 1994.
Wowed 😲 wondering if Mario Bonaparte got married and has kids?
@@HORSEYANIME2024 if like to know too. We weren't in the same class, so I didn't keep in touch.
I know very little of French history, this is so fascinating!
Maria Anna passes away
2nd Maria Anna passes away the same day she was born
3rd Maria Anna passes away four months later
4th Maria Anna (nervous laughter)
Never looked into the siblings of Napoleon. That's quite an interesting family!
Ditto.
Well done. Informative and entertaining.
Finally! Lindsay reposted this video, looking forward to it.
As a huge Napoleon fan, really loving this series 😊
Thank You Lindsay ❤
And again another great video! Reminds me of the year 2009, when I discovered the book "The Golden Bees" by Daniel Henderson and read it within one afternoon, bc it was utterly captivating. It's a family biography about the Bonapartes in chronological order and I wouldn't be surprised if it served as a source for this video.
This would make a good Masterpiece Theater miniseries.
Thank you, I have learned so much
I love all ur videos they are so informative and interesting I can't wait for part 2
Maybe in a future video you can expound on Bernadotte's story. His life story is actually very interesting. He actually had a brief stint as France's Minister of War and his becoming Crown Prince of Sweden was an attractive option because aside from his military reputation and the fact that Sweden wanted to be in good terms with Napoleon, he treated kindly the Swedish Prisoners of War at Lubeck. Also, fun fact, his wife actually refused to live with him in Sweden because she found Sweden to be cold and refused to convert to Lutheranism.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_XIV_John
Desiree was a first-class kook! She'd visit the opera after the performance was finished, drive her carriage through the streets in the middle of the night, and invite street urchins into the palace to give them candy.
I wonder if Princess Kate identifies with her? (Another case of a girl from a "new money" family marrying into royalty...)
Hi Lindsay! I think it would be super cool to make a video/series on the longest living members of the British royal family! Whose with me?
this is so cool, thank you.
As coronation is approaching closer , why don't you make a videos on "The Grand Delhi Darbar" . The only time when a British monarch was crowned outside Europe!!!!
The Indian audience will not appreciate this attempt to glorify British imperialism. The Indians are still salty over Britain's refusal to hand back the Koh-i-noor & blocking India's bid for permanent UNSC seat. Victoria & Edward VII never set foot in India & were crowned by proxy through their Governor-Generals. George V attended the Durbar after being duly coronated as British monarch, so your notion that the British monarch was crowned from India is completely baseless. By the time George VI came, the onset of WW2, financial constraints & growing struggle for independence made the Indian masses reluctant to satisfy the ego of the British monarch. Besides there was nothing unique in the coronation ceremonies of the Delhi Durbar. It was a plain imitation of the British coronation ceremony, the only exception was that the British king would receive homage from the Indian princes on this occasion, issued medals for outstanding public works & bestow knighthoods into the Order of the Indian Empire & Order of Star of India upon 'loyal' Indians. Both the orders were junior in terms of precedence & no Indian was ever incorporated into senior orders like that of the Garter or of the Thistle.
It is true that perhaps most Indians might not like it but at the the it was a one of the most spectacular ceremony world has ever seen . They even had a new Imperial crown of India made .....
@@anubratabit3027 I’d actually say perhaps making a video on the 1911 Delhi Durbar be an opportunity for Lindsay to discuss the results and the effects of British colonialism and how the event was used as a symbol of western colonial rule. Doing a video of such an event could go both ways. It can be discussed in a delicate diplomatic way or used to condemn western oppression.
Pls do a video on the descendants of napoleon’s older siblings
You should make a video abt the kings and queens of Sardinia and Italy, or queen consorts of Italy.
For what?!
Thanks for sharing
what a fascinating story!
Wow I never knew about Elisa Bonaparte, sounds like she was more competent than her brothers, with the exception of Napoleon of course.
"also if stomach cancer" I couldn't stop laughing sounded like "another one"
Cancer does tend to be genetic…
This made Napoleon and his family very relatable
Is it weird that I didn't know these videos existed
True
It doesn't even show up when you search it, I just found it in the playlist I was listening to
UA-cam's terrible algorithm strikes again
Great video.
Thank you very nice video
I applaud lucien
So interesting. I am team Lucien.
Lucien Bonaparte is such an interesting character
Never noticed Napoleon's siblings at all.
As well as his parents' background.
What I'd like to know is why did Napoleon take his brother from the Nalpes when he was doing so well over there? It's not like he didn't have other family members or subordinates that could do the job in Spain for him.
Well, I'm happy that Joseph and his mother lived a good life.
The 4th Maria Anna must have been sweating.
I'm looking forward to the information you have on Jerome's wealthy American wife Elizabeth Patterson.
I have lived in NJ for my entire life and now you're yelling me Joseph Buonaparte lived in BORDENTOWN at some point??? Bruh
Cqn you do isabeau of bavaria??
Can u do a video abt Genghis khan and other Mongolian kings, or abt Mongol Empire
Great video! The tension between Napoleon and his siblings seems like great material for a "Horrible Histories" sketch. However, the only one I found with the family in it, made them seem very chummy.ua-cam.com/video/o_fzz9RvkS8/v-deo.html
I wouldn't call Joseph an enlightened despot he sounded great for Italy and I'd say his brother was more despotic than him..and actually Napoleon wasn't short..he was actually pretty tall for a male back then Napoleon was actually about 5 ft 9 or 10 back then..and according to the history show mysteries at the museum which actually does research like you too..the actual theory is Napoleon died of hemorrhoids but did have stomach issues on top of that and he died of that and possible sepsis as well
Idk where u got 5 foot 9 or 10 from but after converting his actual height in french units almost all sources say 5'6.5 aka 1.69m. Bout the average for the time.
Nest pls do something about Skanderbeg
3:37 They went to boarding school to be taught by Mr. Bean
You should check out Eva Schubert.
Yes! She was an interesting woman!
@@rachaeltrujillo9960 Oh, so you have seen her videos.
Succession: Bonaparte edition 😂
Why are there old and new comments. I’m assuming this video is old but put out again.
It has been unlisted for awhile, and some people myself included found it on a random playlist of Lindsey's. She started receiving comments on the video and unpublished it when she realized.
@@nancyjohnson7147 oh ok 👍🏾
sdgdhhsbsk I was never interested in Napoleon so I never had any idea he was actually Italian
So he was a nepo baby
It's funny how Josephine resembles Napoleon's mother!
after this can you do Napoleons son, nephews, and nieces?
What about the brothers and sisters of George Washington
Sister of Napoleon
Napoleon 3rd
Jean Baptiste Bernadotte - not Jean Bernadotte. And more interesting would see any take care what happen to Napoleons siblings children One ended up in Sweden for ex.
Coup d'etat = "koo-day-tah"
I'm distant related to Caroline's first husband, Joachim Murat... distantly. Essentially almost irrelevantly related. It's more a "party trick" useless factoid than anything but kind of interesting to me. LOL.....
I could've sworn this mf was an only child until I watched the movie 😭🙏
i thought he only had 1 brother max
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Can you please change the music I feel I hear that instrumental on so many history videos it’s just so generic and overused 😢
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It’s a shame where Louisiana is today after the USA bought it so long ago.
Revolution ideas for "good part" born in Naples.. What illuminate ideas.. 😂😂
Donald Trump is acting like Napoleon Bonapart
Joseph was the Older Brother of Napoleon, please do some research 😊