i owned a 2007 si sedan, whats funny is that this generation was hated on when it first came out. now people are hating on the 9th generation. only goes to show that the engineers are one step ahead of the enthusiast.Me personally, i love all of them..
As a former owner of an 08 and a current owner of a 13, the added torque in the k24 is a blessing to so many Honda owners plagued by a lack of torque. While nothing ground breaking, the k24 is so much easier to drive daily. You can't and shouldn't be redlining your motor all the time. It's nice to know I can just shift at 4k and still make moderate power.
Angel S I agree, the average owner who drives around legally really appreciated the added torque. I am also a fan of the technology in the newer gen and I feel it will turn out to be just as bulletproof
Dude, just picked up an 8th gen... So many people talk shit to me because it's not a wrx, st, or something else turbo, but honestly, like you, I've been wanting one for awhile. I can say that, this car pulls pretty hard for a n/a, and is mad fun on windy roads. I plan on getting bolt ons and a tune eventually, but for now, it's my weekend cruiser. Think I'm going to keep this car for a long time! And nice vid bro.
I don't understand all the arguing between 8th and 9th gens. I own a 9th, never driven an 8th but the 8th is what got me to want an si. Both these cars are awesome for the money and these cars are brothers anyways. We should respect them both especially if were are honda enthusiast's.
Nice video. I just recently purchased a white 2011 Civic Si, and I am happy I chose the 8th gen over the 9th. On paper, the 9th gen should be so much more superior to the 8th. Bigger engine, higher torque, and more HP. But in reality its not. Honda made the 9th gen Si to cater more towards the casual market. Therefore, the suspension is softer, it revs lower, and even though it has lots of torque, its max HP production is actually lower than the 8th gen. Another thing that turned me off on the 9th is the fact that it only has VTEC on the intake cam, and not on the exhaust cam. Why Honda did this, I have no clue. Especially since the K24A, that came with the TSX, had VTEC on both cams like it should. All in all, I think the 8th is more true to the Si badging. It does stand for sports injected after all. And with the new direct injected turbocharged Honda engines coming out, I think the 8th gen Si may very well be the last true, high revving NA Honda engine to ever be produced.
I'm pretty sure all civic si have vtec only on the inlet valves. That's why they call it i-vtec. And the 9th gen has 3 more horsepower stock to stock. The 2014 has 7 more horses over the 8th gen.
***** only the 9th gen with the 2.4 have vtec on the intake. The 8th gen 2.0 liter had vtec on both cams. The i in the ivtec just means the ecm adjust cam angles when it needs it
Manny 82pr a while back I watched a UA-cam video which showed mechanically how vtec works. It showed the actual moving parts and how vtec is engaged. In that video they said the i in i-vtec stands for intake. Also I don't know if the 2015 or 2014 model is the one with the new front end but that one has 205 hp because of a new intake system.
I like both the K20Z3 (8th gen) and K24Z7 (9th gen) engines. Although these engines are in the same family they are completely different. The K20 replaced the B series and the K24 replaced the H22 and F20B DOHC VTEC motors. The 8th Gen Civic has that feel just like the old 2000 Civic Si EM1 Coupe and the 9th Gen Si reminds me of a 4th and 5th Gen Prelude if that makes sense.
I have a 2012 9th gen. They weigh less and look different than the 14-15 models. A lot less technology too, feels more old school except for the helical limited slip differential. I really don't understand why people prefer high revs over torque beyond sound. They're both sick cars if you re-flash.
All it need is a nice HFP lip kit, diffuser and it looks dope. People like family cars (sedans) now. I think civics should be coupe only like the 2000 em1. Even the rsx-s was a coupe/hatchback. I’m not a fan of the oversized sedans clearly. I guess it’s base on taste.
@@Pharaoh_The_Great I just got an hfp lip I just need the side skirts and a new stock wing because it's broken lol. I'm not a fan of sedans because their so damn big now a days but I get it if it's in the name of safety but it kinda sucks that we won't see many cars that weigh 2500 or less anymore
Had the 8th gen and did full bolt ons and sold it for a stock 9th gen SI and I couldn’t be happier 🤟🏼 love the useable torque of the 9th gen for everyday driving and the creature comforts the 9th gen has is awesome
The 8th Gen is more of a street car while the 9th is more of a daily driver with that extra torque the K20z3 is a much better platform than the K24z7. In the end the K20z3 has more potential not to say that the K24z7 doesn't. Just my friendly opinion.
Both really nice cars! You should see what's achieved with tunes on the 9th gen civic too! Any SI from any year could be fun... One of my favorites is the blue 2000 civic si
Honestly the only reason i chose an fa5 over the fb6 is because the fd2 looks better than the fb6, and the closest thing i can get to an fd2 is to convert my fa5. The 9th gen comes with awesome tech, and is faster than the 8th gen when you compare stock to stock, but i honestly just don't really like how the 9th gen civics look.
8th vs 9th is really a drivers race. And most reports claim the 9th will pull about half a car in the 8th mile, but the 8th will pull half a car on the freeway 60mph-120mph. So its really a toss up.
2006-2011 fg2 fa5 had a bluetooth integration option. honda navi during that gen was actually quite nice. make sure you try something before u dock it bro
Hey Sean!! Thank you for watching my videos on my channel! I wanted to say that you are absolutely right. I was explaining that it didn't come standard on the car. The Civic Si that I was driving didn't have the Navigation option. As far as the quality of the Navi goes... It really wasn't that great the image quality was definitely dated because I had the same Navigation system in my 2010 Honda Accord V6. The new Navi system is 100 times better check it out. Thanks again for watching. I hope that in the future, you will continue to watch my videos as they come out!!! Happy New Year!!!
2014 Si has so many more damn features compared to any Si before it, it's almost unfair from a tech standpoint if you bought a 2012 or 2013 Si and missed out on the 2014. With the added HP, interior, and handling it's the best Si yet.
The 2014 has disgusting wheels and interior. The 3 more hp is lost by the added weight of the so called tech and simple mods can make a 2012-2013 out handle the 2014 with ease. There isn't much of a difference between the 13 and 14, but a huge difference between the 12 and 13.
Well I drove both and at ended up buying a 2012 sedan, I notice that the 2012 is almost 80 lbs lighter than the 13,14 and 15, is obvious why is lighter doesn’t have what the new ones have but, still lither than the 8th gen and even has more power! And that’s why I decided to buy the 9th gen... so far so good! Only thing that come to my mind is that best of both worlds would be a 99,00’s si with a k24 and 8000 rpm would be awesome 😎
Both gens are nice as hell. The 9th gen's interior absolutely shits all over the 8th gen's interior. In terms of over all looks the 9th gen coupe is nicer than the 8th gen coupe, as far as the sedans go it's definitely a toss up because the 8th gen's have the Mugen Si and you can also convert them into an FD2 (civic type r). It's all preference, I'd go with whatever you can find the best deal on you can't go wrong with either one to be honest. 🇯🇵
if you seat in them stock the *th is way higher quality plastics, cloth, headliner, etc. For tech the 9th gen of course is king. For tach speedometer layout I prefer the eighth gen, it looks like a heads up display at night with the tech taking center stage,
For the 9th gen , When the k24z7 blows out , just swap in the 06-08 k24a2 🤷🏻♂️ problem solved , then you’ll get true vtec and good tq, in the end you get the tech , and performance, and if you want more performance there’s a supercharger or turbo ,
I honestly feel like Mugen wasted their time on the 2014 though. If you're going to buy a Mugen Si, stick to the 2008 FA5. Any Honda enthusiast will tell you that!
I’m planning to get a type R this summer/fall, but I’d honestly drop money into getting an 8th gen si in the future as well. Something about them just screams to me.
As a Owner of a Original 2006 Si Coupe I would say its the Best Civic I ever drove the 8 gen is the best Civic on Streets remember when the 8 gen came out it won Sports Car of the years beating even The BMW M3 ? So the 9 gen with its tsx motor sorry to say never had a chance to really Shine like the k20 I'm finally going to change the computer put Honda flash pro 9500 RPM = Smile
Just traded a 2011 fa5 for a 15 fb6 the 9th gen is a better car imo the torque the features and technology and looks don’t get me wrong the fa5 looks fantastic but that modern look did it for me I do miss the 8k redline and that crossover but I can live with the fact that I got way more torque and just overall a better more comfortable car
This video is purely subjective I'm sure if you compared the 8th generation to the 6th generation civic si you would prefer the 6th generation cause its revs higher and is more fun take everything in too account as a package not just the engine
+ABC Garage yea if I had a choice between the 8th gen Si Sedan it the Coupe I would have gotten the sedan. That’s what I was going to get when i was in high school a 2007 Honda Civic Si in dyno blue
I owned a 2010 si and although the 8000 rpm red line was fun and the vtec was very noticeable the car was very slow. I got bored of it in just a few months. 2 years later I bought the 9th gen and I don't miss the the high revving k20. Torque is what makes the wheels turn and the k24 has plenty of it.
Wow I never heard the 8th gen being called slow, most that have tested both have both within a tenth of each other 0-60, quarter mile lap, etc. car and driver motor trend, automobile, honda websites, etc. You do have to rev it higher, but it revs super fast and thats part of the fun, but its fast and moves great even under 6000 rpms, under 3500 is a different story though
Sadly the 2014 have rims that were 29lbs each… it really holds it back if you get rims that are 16-17lbs it changes the whole vehicle and is the best things you can do.
2013 civic si sedan curb weight: 2,967 lbs. 2014 civic si coupe curb weight: 3,002 lbs. 8th gen curb weights: 2,877 lb (1,305 kg) (2006 coupe) 2,886 lb (1,309 kg) (2007-08 coupe) 2,899 lb (1,315 kg) (2009 coupe) 2,895 lb (1,313 kg) (2010-11 coupe) 2,945 lb (1,336 kg) (2007-08 sedan) 2,954 lb (1,340 kg) (2009-11 sedan) So yes, the 2014's and 2015's are the heaviest civic si's made to date.
I've driven both back to back. I'm a little bias because I own a 2014 but in all honesty I wouldn't think twice to choose it all over again. 7500rpm redline vs 8200 isn't anything crazy. 35 more pounds of torque makes up for the weight difference. My car vs the other car with the tune and intake was dead even while mine was stock. It's apples to oranges in terms of comfort, 2014 is much softer so that's a downside. Looks are subjective. Shifter on 2014 is better. Reviewer is biased, as am I, but I choose the 9th
i love my 8th gen civic si never had shiting problems just got it turboed,by PRL motorsports got 432 whp at 12 p.s.i. skunk2 exhaust, hondata, stage 4 clutch
Good review, having worked at Honda before, I originally had my heart set on an 8th gen as well, that was till I drove a 9th, a noticed the rpm was lower and it did bug me, frankly I think it bugs all of us, however, I gave up that extra 1000 rpm for torque, nevertheless both these machines are amazing. Buddy of mine has an 8th gen and I roll in the 9th gen, fun lining up next to him lol.
At 7:00 mark explains why I jus sold my g35 coupe and picked up an 08 si. And it's paid off! This car is going to save me so much money! Totally missed my 2010, so I am glad to be back in one!
the k20z3 has a redline of 8400. it's fly by wire and has electric steering. Also the stereo and speakers are really good. a headphone jack sounds way better than bluetooth. also the k24 is not a totally different motor but it has been around in that form in the US for longer and has way more aftermarket support than the western only 20kz3
@@aaronp9835 no its not, there are many more factors, weight, transmission, real vtec, and when it kicks in, it is better at least at that moment, but not down low, and the turbo would probably be best in the mid range, each has pluses and minuses, depending on rev and speed, and what you are doing at the time, and then there is the sound, and full vtec rush, turbo rush, or large displacement smoothness, again they are different ways of reaching pretty much the same performance goals, and none are better all the time. My perfect engine would be the 2.4 liter, with the 2.0 litter full vtec, and the 1.5 liters turbo added, for the best of all three worlds, low large displacement smooth power, mid range turbo boost, and high end rev happy full vtec boost. That would be insane!. If you look at the data, the cars are neck and neck even with one with less displacements, both are great, even the newer turbo civics, are about the same or slightly slower. neither is always better, small 1.5 turbo, 2.0 liter full vtec high revving, larger 2,4 half vtec all are equally good at getting 0-60 in around 6 and a half seconds and similar quarter miles, of course the latest has a handling advantage with its stronger chassis, but after market can take care of that. I would say they are different not always better, as there are times that vtec is better times the turbo is better times the larger displacement is better depending on a lot of other factors. IMHO.
nice review man! you talk about the pros and cons of both cars, I myself own a 2008 Si and I wouldn't trade for the new one because of the revs!!! It's awesome! good work man!
I’ve had both cars and don’t get me wrong the 8th Gen Si is a fun car to drive and crack vtec but due to the weak bottom blocks I stayed away from buying another one. I prefer the 9th Gen just because it’s more torquer and it just feels better in my opinion. P.S I use to beat on my 8th Gen everyday and I crack a cylinder wall.. my 9th Gen I beat on it everyday and it’s still pulling strong
I had a 2005 TSX (auto) I sold a few years ago and wanted to get back to the small car, honda 4 cylinders again.. The k24 motor is proven, provides usable power/torque in everyday driving (without revving 6k+ every gear) and it a bit more refine. Also like the styling better. Don't like 10th gen SI's and will always prefer NA to turbo.
Good review bro..im in the market for an 8th gen civic si sedan..i preffer the 8th gen over the 9th gen..i must say tho,the interior on the 9th gen looks way better,more technology in it,versus the 8th gen,the exterior i like both gens,engine wise i like the 8th gen since it has VTEC on both cams,intake and exhaust not just vtec on the intake side like the 9th gens have,u can't hear the vtec turn on the 9th gen but i do love the torque of the 9th gen.buteven with all of that,I'm still looking for an 8th gen Si.
Both great cars I had 9 gen si first it was great for daily lots of torque it’s quick from dig and mod end but top end the 8 gen shines but the 8 gen lacks torque so u gotta rev it to at least 4k to feel excitement but I love both fuck the haters
I’ve owned a 2013 si and currently have a 2007 si. I don’t think one is necessarily better than the other it’s more about what you’re looking for in a car the 2013 or so offers a bit more comfort with more technology while the eighth GEN offers more off a raw feel while still maintaining some comfort. The seats on the eighth generation are much better. The sounds from a K 20 is much better in my opinion.
I got a 8th gen Civic LX coupe even though it's not the SI trim still a fun car to drive the simplicity of the car to me is what makes the 8th gen great it still feels Honda while the new civics feel like there's too much technology crammed into them when you buy Honda you want simplicity and reliablity
Haters will hate on us 9th gen drivers... The 8th gens are amazing.. But I love my 2014 SI coupe.. More power.. Power fun to drive.. I do love the 8thgens front seats though.. Super comfy.. But most 8thgen owners are douche bags TALKIN down on us 9thgen owners.. SMDH
It's all good, 8th genes just wanted honda to keep full vtec, 8000 rpm, and use better quality plastics,clothe, headliners etc. while adding the good things the 9th gen bring torque smoother shifting, etc.
Only thing I don't like about the 8th gen and so on Civic Si's is the Rev Hang 😒, coming from an 03' rsx type-s to the electronic throttle was a huge adjustment.
I have the experience to own a 9th that I love and back in 09 I use to drive my buddies 8th gen every saturday night for 2 hours while he was shitfaced and sleeping in the passenger seat. Loved ripping that thing on the autobahn while stationed in germany. Love hondas and they both have many pros. Only car I loved more was my 09 MS3 with full bolt ons and a tune that thing was quick(to me).
I like both and tbh the 9th gen is newer so it will take time before really good parts and tunes are made for it. 8k redline is great but I'd rather have 174lbs torque over 139 and with tuning you could get higher numbers. the 8th has been around longer so people have figure out amazing tunes for it. Wait till people really start cracking into the 9th gen.
8th gen civic si and rsx 's are unique sporty Honda cars with a unique engine k20. Not to mock a 9th gen but it has a k24 from the tsx, accord, oddessy etc making none unique but still faster than the 8th gen. Now the 10th gen type r will be unique in the sense of having a 2.3 turbo n will deff beat both these gens.
I feel like lmao'ing everytime you have to look down to find 3rd gear lol. Reminds me of the first day I got my Matrix XRS and was SUPER paranoid about shifting into reverse instead of 1st gear haha.
So much misinformation. The 8th gen never came with Bluetooth? Hondata makes kpro, what is Honda control, civic si doesn't have climate control, not lane departure warning... It's lane watch... Get your info right
People who talk shit on Civic Si’s just don’t understand. Like I could’ve gotten a gti, I could’ve even tried getting a high mileage ST. But fuck that, who’s car is gonna run longer? Who’s car is cheaper to fix? And at the end of the day we both get smoked by a V8 🤷♂️
Lol after watching this I had the biggest smirk on my face, Everytime I get on double lane and line up with an 8th gen Si they never wanna go at it, especially when I see them revving the shit out of their engine before I even get close to them but as soon as I get next to them they just drive normal. My fb6 9th is stock so idk lol.
8th gen is better. 2012 is when Honda started 'penny pinching' and lost their touch... They haven't been the same since. Styling sucks since 2012. Older video commenting in 2023 ;) Funny how you SHRUNK when you transferred from 8th to 9th Gen LMAO
I had a 2007 SI and it was totaled on 12/29/17. Had that car for 10 year and loved it everyday I drove it. It was always so much fun. Girl pulled out in front of me. I'm going to be 60 this year and still want the same year. Concerned of how it might have been taken care of.
i owned a 2007 si sedan, whats funny is that this generation was hated on when it first came out. now people are hating on the 9th generation. only goes to show that the engineers are one step ahead of the enthusiast.Me personally, i love all of them..
I love Si's for the simple fact that its a speedy daily driver that only comes in MANUAL. love it. that's the way sport/sporty cars should be driven.
Amen !!!!!!!!!!!!! My 05 Accord coupe is a 6 speed
As a former owner of an 08 and a current owner of a 13, the added torque in the k24 is a blessing to so many Honda owners plagued by a lack of torque. While nothing ground breaking, the k24 is so much easier to drive daily. You can't and shouldn't be redlining your motor all the time. It's nice to know I can just shift at 4k and still make moderate power.
Angel S agreed. No need to be reving that high for no reason. its not a drag car anyway its more suited for a road course.
yea you get more torque but it's same trade off with the f20 and f22 you lose 1000 rpm
Angel S i rev my motor high all the time,five years straight with zero issues.
preludeF20Bking, me too, for 3 years on my humble EP3 and for 2 years in my 2015 Si. And will still in both...
Angel S I agree, the average owner who drives around legally really appreciated the added torque. I am also a fan of the technology in the newer gen and I feel it will turn out to be just as bulletproof
The 8th gen civic si didnt have all that technology because it was for pure that driving experience, just like the s2000.
Facts 💯💯
Dude, just picked up an 8th gen... So many people talk shit to me because it's not a wrx, st, or something else turbo, but honestly, like you, I've been wanting one for awhile. I can say that, this car pulls pretty hard for a n/a, and is mad fun on windy roads. I plan on getting bolt ons and a tune eventually, but for now, it's my weekend cruiser. Think I'm going to keep this car for a long time! And nice vid bro.
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Civics get the most hate
I can honestly say, coming from a wrx I wish I would’ve just gotten into a 9th gen. Honda’s have unbeatable reliability
oh shoot that's crazy I love your channel
@@adamwg6559 much appreciated 🙏🏼
I don't understand all the arguing between 8th and 9th gens. I own a 9th, never driven an 8th but the 8th is what got me to want an si. Both these cars are awesome for the money and these cars are brothers anyways. We should respect them both especially if were are honda enthusiast's.
8th Gen or you aren't truly into cars
@@leewilliams8836 I like the 8th gen better but shut up pussy
@@leewilliams8836 shut up dickhead
Lee Williams too broke to afford a 9th gen that’s why
9th generation Scandal like s*** compared to eight
I own a 2012 Si as a 3rd "beater daily car". and have driven the 8th gen.
It's subjective but it's the 9th gen all day for me.
Yep same for me, so much so that I bought a 2013 :D I wanna drive it all the time
I love all the si’s but I love my 2013 pre refresh exterior 9th gen coupe the interior is my favorite out of all the si its way better then the 12 was
9th gen SI is like a PRELUDE in weight and engine. 8th gen SI is closer to an INTEGRA.
Nice video. I just recently purchased a white 2011 Civic Si, and I am happy I chose the 8th gen over the 9th. On paper, the 9th gen should be so much more superior to the 8th. Bigger engine, higher torque, and more HP. But in reality its not.
Honda made the 9th gen Si to cater more towards the casual market. Therefore, the suspension is softer, it revs lower, and even though it has lots of torque, its max HP production is actually lower than the 8th gen.
Another thing that turned me off on the 9th is the fact that it only has VTEC on the intake cam, and not on the exhaust cam. Why Honda did this, I have no clue. Especially since the K24A, that came with the TSX, had VTEC on both cams like it should.
All in all, I think the 8th is more true to the Si badging. It does stand for sports injected after all. And with the new direct injected turbocharged Honda engines coming out, I think the 8th gen Si may very well be the last true, high revving NA Honda engine to ever be produced.
I'm pretty sure all civic si have vtec only on the inlet valves. That's why they call it i-vtec. And the 9th gen has 3 more horsepower stock to stock. The 2014 has 7 more horses over the 8th gen.
***** only the 9th gen with the 2.4 have vtec on the intake. The 8th gen 2.0 liter had vtec on both cams. The i in the ivtec just means the ecm adjust cam angles when it needs it
mrspencer72 i stands for intelligent
Miguel where did you get your info from? the 2014 Si still has 201hp. Even if it made more hp that pathetic
Manny 82pr a while back I watched a UA-cam video which showed mechanically how vtec works. It showed the actual moving parts and how vtec is engaged. In that video they said the i in i-vtec stands for intake. Also I don't know if the 2015 or 2014 model is the one with the new front end but that one has 205 hp because of a new intake system.
I like both the K20Z3 (8th gen) and K24Z7 (9th gen) engines. Although these engines are in the same family they are completely different. The K20 replaced the B series and the K24 replaced the H22 and F20B DOHC VTEC motors. The 8th Gen Civic has that feel just like the old 2000 Civic Si EM1 Coupe and the 9th Gen Si reminds me of a 4th and 5th Gen Prelude if that makes sense.
8th gens are the best looking civic si.
@william terry someone bitch ass is mad 😂
@Luis Rodriguez it doesnt matter what I am, people who dont respect other peoples taste dont have my respect, I like both, but I dont own either
Great video! Great breaking down the differences in the generations. I like how you showed both mentalities of owning one over the others. Props
I have a 2012 9th gen. They weigh less and look different than the 14-15 models. A lot less technology too, feels more old school except for the helical limited slip differential. I really don't understand why people prefer high revs over torque beyond sound. They're both sick cars if you re-flash.
I have the same color🥰8th Gen just picked it up four days ago! I love it
I’m excited, picking up this weekend!
I have the 8th gen coupe don't care for the rear end body style but it's grown on me. Absolutely love the car tho and it's high revs
Yea for the coupe I’m not a huge fan of but it’s mainly the sedan that I truly enjoy
All it need is a nice HFP lip kit, diffuser and it looks dope. People like family cars (sedans) now. I think civics should be coupe only like the 2000 em1. Even the rsx-s was a coupe/hatchback. I’m not a fan of the oversized sedans clearly. I guess it’s base on taste.
@@Pharaoh_The_Great I just got an hfp lip I just need the side skirts and a new stock wing because it's broken lol. I'm not a fan of sedans because their so damn big now a days but I get it if it's in the name of safety but it kinda sucks that we won't see many cars that weigh 2500 or less anymore
I've owned an 08 Si coupe and now the 2014 Si coupe. I love them both.
Had the 8th gen and did full bolt ons and sold it for a stock 9th gen SI and I couldn’t be happier 🤟🏼 love the useable torque of the 9th gen for everyday driving and the creature comforts the 9th gen has is awesome
The 8th Gen is more of a street car while the 9th is more of a daily driver with that extra torque the K20z3 is a much better platform than the K24z7. In the end the K20z3 has more potential not to say that the K24z7 doesn't. Just my friendly opinion.
Had both. And I prefer the 9th gen. Looks better. A little more power and over 30 lbs of torque added.
Interior is better than the 8th gen.
Both really nice cars! You should see what's achieved with tunes on the 9th gen civic too! Any SI from any year could be fun... One of my favorites is the blue 2000 civic si
Brad Nay That blue is my favorite. Even if slow. Lol
Honestly the only reason i chose an fa5 over the fb6 is because the fd2 looks better than the fb6, and the closest thing i can get to an fd2 is to convert my fa5. The 9th gen comes with awesome tech, and is faster than the 8th gen when you compare stock to stock, but i honestly just don't really like how the 9th gen civics look.
8th vs 9th is really a drivers race. And most reports claim the 9th will pull about half a car in the 8th mile, but the 8th will pull half a car on the freeway 60mph-120mph. So its really a toss up.
tj omoso The FD2 the eyes are look different, and there have FD1.
8th gen for me all day. Love the K20! Would be awsome to have the 9th gen with a K20A2 head/cam swap.
2006-2011 fg2 fa5 had a bluetooth integration option. honda navi during that gen was actually quite nice. make sure you try something before u dock it bro
Hey Sean!! Thank you for watching my videos on my channel! I wanted to say that you are absolutely right. I was explaining that it didn't come standard on the car. The Civic Si that I was driving didn't have the Navigation option. As far as the quality of the Navi goes... It really wasn't that great the image quality was definitely dated because I had the same Navigation system in my 2010 Honda Accord V6. The new Navi system is 100 times better check it out. Thanks again for watching. I hope that in the future, you will continue to watch my videos as they come out!!! Happy New Year!!!
2014 Si has so many more damn features compared to any Si before it, it's almost unfair from a tech standpoint if you bought a 2012 or 2013 Si and missed out on the 2014. With the added HP, interior, and handling it's the best Si yet.
The 2014 has disgusting wheels and interior. The 3 more hp is lost by the added weight of the so called tech and simple mods can make a 2012-2013 out handle the 2014 with ease. There isn't much of a difference between the 13 and 14, but a huge difference between the 12 and 13.
+thefives7ar the 2012 civic si weirdly enough outruns all newer gens. Although I could have gotten a freak of nature in the batch.
+Cannon Kidd Does the 2012 SI have the K20 or K24?
Joseph McAuley what does k20 or k24 mean... don’t roast me lol
@@27BILLY99 k20 is the 2.0 and the k24 is the 2.4
Well I drove both and at ended up buying a 2012 sedan, I notice that the 2012 is almost 80 lbs lighter than the 13,14 and 15, is obvious why is lighter doesn’t have what the new ones have but, still lither than the 8th gen and even has more power! And that’s why I decided to buy the 9th gen... so far so good! Only thing that come to my mind is that best of both worlds would be a 99,00’s si with a k24 and 8000 rpm would be awesome 😎
Both gens are nice as hell. The 9th gen's interior absolutely shits all over the 8th gen's interior. In terms of over all looks the 9th gen coupe is nicer than the 8th gen coupe, as far as the sedans go it's definitely a toss up because the 8th gen's have the Mugen Si and you can also convert them into an FD2 (civic type r). It's all preference, I'd go with whatever you can find the best deal on you can't go wrong with either one to be honest. 🇯🇵
if you seat in them stock the *th is way higher quality plastics, cloth, headliner, etc.
For tech the 9th gen of course is king.
For tach speedometer layout I prefer the eighth gen, it looks like a heads up display at night with the tech taking center stage,
Look up Gene kim.......
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For the 9th gen , When the k24z7 blows out , just swap in the 06-08 k24a2 🤷🏻♂️ problem solved , then you’ll get true vtec and good tq, in the end you get the tech , and performance, and if you want more performance there’s a supercharger or turbo ,
The shifter on the dash was the best, it was so close to the steering wheel like w race car
I honestly feel like Mugen wasted their time on the 2014 though. If you're going to buy a Mugen Si, stick to the 2008 FA5. Any Honda enthusiast will tell you that!
I agree. 2.0 L 8000 RPM is the way to go! Sorry to the 9th gen Si owners but it's just not better compare to K20z3
+Mark the opinions stated are shallow sorry
I’m planning to get a type R this summer/fall, but I’d honestly drop money into getting an 8th gen si in the future as well. Something about them just screams to me.
Thats awesome!!!! The new FK8 Type R is an absolute amazing platform for sure!!! And it's most likely the VTEC that's screams to you hahahaha!
Do these two gens share the same suspension? Say for instance running 8th gen lowering springs on 9th gen
As a Owner of a Original 2006 Si Coupe I would say its the Best Civic I ever drove the 8 gen is the best Civic on Streets remember when the 8 gen came out it won Sports Car of the years beating even The BMW M3 ? So the 9 gen with its tsx motor sorry to say never had a chance to really Shine like the k20 I'm finally going to change the computer put Honda flash pro 9500 RPM = Smile
I own a 2000 and a 07 si and 00 si still the best si ever created.
Go with 9th gen. Much better electronic steering and suspension technology then 8th gen. And you can slap the k20 head on it & your solid
id take an 8th gen only if its a coupe, now for the 9th gen, sedan baby‼️🔥
Same
Mugen RR 8th gen si 👀
I bought a blue tooth for my SI 70$ not the fanciest but definitely the nicest and the quality is amazing
Oh yea I definitely bought a double din for my daily driver and it also has been great! That video will be coming up soon
Just traded a 2011 fa5 for a 15 fb6 the 9th gen is a better car imo the torque the features and technology and looks don’t get me wrong the fa5 looks fantastic but that modern look did it for me I do miss the 8k redline and that crossover but I can live with the fact that I got way more torque and just overall a better more comfortable car
This video is purely subjective I'm sure if you compared the 8th generation to the 6th generation civic si you would prefer the 6th generation cause its revs higher and is more fun take everything in too account as a package not just the engine
Good work! Cheers, a 9th gen R18 daily driver from NY.
Should of lined both cars up to show a side by side acceleration that would of been interesting lol
whitesiguy well the 9th gen would win because it has more torque and HP, 9th gen gets to 60 in 6.1 seconds, and I think 8th gen got 7 seconds flat
I have an 8th gen with K24-a2 bottom and a K20-a2 on the top and it hasn’t let down yet.
Honda's are definitely built to last
As a 8th gen owner, I'm heavily biased and I love the 8th gens over the 9th gens.
8th gen sedan si looks better than coupe
+ABC Garage yea if I had a choice between the 8th gen Si Sedan it the Coupe I would have gotten the sedan. That’s what I was going to get when i was in high school a 2007 Honda Civic Si in dyno blue
I owned a 2010 si and although the 8000 rpm red line was fun and the vtec was very noticeable the car was very slow. I got bored of it in just a few months. 2 years later I bought the 9th gen and I don't miss the the high revving k20. Torque is what makes the wheels turn and the k24 has plenty of it.
Wow I never heard the 8th gen being called slow, most that have tested both have both within a tenth of each other 0-60, quarter mile lap, etc. car and driver motor trend, automobile, honda websites, etc.
You do have to rev it higher, but it revs super fast and thats part of the fun, but its fast and moves great even under 6000 rpms, under 3500 is a different story though
Sadly the 2014 have rims that were 29lbs each… it really holds it back if you get rims that are 16-17lbs it changes the whole vehicle and is the best things you can do.
2013 civic si sedan curb weight: 2,967 lbs.
2014 civic si coupe curb weight: 3,002 lbs.
8th gen curb weights:
2,877 lb (1,305 kg) (2006 coupe)
2,886 lb (1,309 kg) (2007-08 coupe)
2,899 lb (1,315 kg) (2009 coupe)
2,895 lb (1,313 kg) (2010-11 coupe)
2,945 lb (1,336 kg) (2007-08 sedan)
2,954 lb (1,340 kg) (2009-11 sedan)
So yes, the 2014's and 2015's are the heaviest civic si's made to date.
I've driven both back to back. I'm a little bias because I own a 2014 but in all honesty I wouldn't think twice to choose it all over again. 7500rpm redline vs 8200 isn't anything crazy. 35 more pounds of torque makes up for the weight difference. My car vs the other car with the tune and intake was dead even while mine was stock. It's apples to oranges in terms of comfort, 2014 is much softer so that's a downside. Looks are subjective. Shifter on 2014 is better. Reviewer is biased, as am I, but I choose the 9th
Aye dude , awesome review, well needed on UA-cam
i love my 8th gen civic si never had shiting problems just got it turboed,by PRL motorsports got 432 whp at 12 p.s.i. skunk2 exhaust, hondata, stage 4 clutch
exactly what I'm planning!
Good review, having worked at Honda before, I originally had my heart set on an 8th gen as well, that was till I drove a 9th, a noticed the rpm was lower and it did bug me, frankly I think it bugs all of us, however, I gave up that extra 1000 rpm for torque, nevertheless both these machines are amazing. Buddy of mine has an 8th gen and I roll in the 9th gen, fun lining up next to him lol.
Awesome comparison video. Just picked up a 2013 Si today. Digging the K24 and newer technology of the 9th gen. Nice work JR14
At 7:00 mark explains why I jus sold my g35 coupe and picked up an 08 si. And it's paid off! This car is going to save me so much money! Totally missed my 2010, so I am glad to be back in one!
the k20z3 has a redline of 8400. it's fly by wire and has electric steering. Also the stereo and speakers are really good. a headphone jack sounds way better than bluetooth. also the k24 is not a totally different motor but it has been around in that form in the US for longer and has way more aftermarket support than the western only 20kz3
Stock redline on K20z3 is 8200 RPM.
Aftermarket Headunits are almost always better. I'm glad they kept it simple in the 8th gen, it was less for me to remove.
I like your videos dude keep it up
Awesome Comparison video man!
My 2009 si has bluetooth for phone only aux and usb and navigation. Love it. For 15,000 its a win.
I've driven both and own a 2014 si.The 8th gen you do have to rev it up more to make it work and 9th has more usable power all the time
not all the time.
Yes it does. More displacement is always better
@@aaronp9835 I agree
@@Tigerex966 as too?Be more specific
@@aaronp9835 no its not, there are many more factors, weight, transmission, real vtec, and when it kicks in, it is better at least at that moment, but not down low, and the turbo would probably be best in the mid range, each has pluses and minuses, depending on rev and speed, and what you are doing at the time, and then there is the sound, and full vtec rush, turbo rush, or large displacement smoothness, again they are different ways of reaching pretty much the same performance goals, and none are better all the time.
My perfect engine would be the 2.4 liter, with the 2.0 litter full vtec, and the 1.5 liters turbo added, for the best of all three worlds, low large displacement smooth power, mid range turbo boost, and high end rev happy full vtec boost.
That would be insane!.
If you look at the data, the cars are neck and neck even with one with less displacements, both are great, even the newer turbo civics, are about the same or slightly slower.
neither is always better, small 1.5 turbo, 2.0 liter full vtec high revving, larger 2,4 half vtec all are equally good at getting 0-60 in around 6 and a half seconds and similar quarter miles, of course the latest has a handling advantage with its stronger chassis, but after market can take care of that.
I would say they are different not always better, as there are times that vtec is better times the turbo is better times the larger displacement is better depending on a lot of other factors. IMHO.
nice review man! you talk about the pros and cons of both cars, I myself own a 2008 Si and I wouldn't trade for the new one because of the revs!!! It's awesome! good work man!
Had a fg2 si, great car.
I’ve had both cars and don’t get me wrong the 8th Gen Si is a fun car to drive and crack vtec but due to the weak bottom blocks I stayed away from buying another one. I prefer the 9th Gen just because it’s more torquer and it just feels better in my opinion. P.S I use to beat on my 8th Gen everyday and I crack a cylinder wall.. my 9th Gen I beat on it everyday and it’s still pulling strong
I had a 2005 TSX (auto) I sold a few years ago and wanted to get back to the small car, honda 4 cylinders again.. The k24 motor is proven, provides usable power/torque in everyday driving (without revving 6k+ every gear) and it a bit more refine. Also like the styling better. Don't like 10th gen SI's and will always prefer NA to turbo.
Wanted an 8th gen SI but got a stupid good deal on a blue 9th gen SI sedan. Overall I'm happy. Love the K24.
Both of these are solid cars!
Absolutely!!!!
U have to bleep the throttle before u down shift to rev match .... And please stop looking down every time u shift !!!!!!
Good review bro..im in the market for an 8th gen civic si sedan..i preffer the 8th gen over the 9th gen..i must say tho,the interior on the 9th gen looks way better,more technology in it,versus the 8th gen,the exterior i like both gens,engine wise i like the 8th gen since it has VTEC on both cams,intake and exhaust not just vtec on the intake side like the 9th gens have,u can't hear the vtec turn on the 9th gen but i do love the torque of the 9th gen.buteven with all of that,I'm still looking for an 8th gen Si.
Nice video, my 2011 Si is fully loaded, the only thing missing is the back up camera, even came with voice command navigation
Both great cars I had 9 gen si first it was great for daily lots of torque it’s quick from dig and mod end but top end the 8 gen shines but the 8 gen lacks torque so u gotta rev it to at least 4k to feel excitement but I love both fuck the haters
good vid bro keep it up! haha i just bought a black 2014 si should be getting it this week! thanks for the vid man
I’ve owned a 2013 si and currently have a 2007 si. I don’t think one is necessarily better than the other it’s more about what you’re looking for in a car the 2013 or so offers a bit more comfort with more technology while the eighth GEN offers more off a raw feel while still maintaining some comfort. The seats on the eighth generation are much better. The sounds from a K 20 is much better in my opinion.
I got a 8th gen Civic LX coupe even though it's not the SI trim still a fun car to drive the simplicity of the car to me is what makes the 8th gen great it still feels Honda while the new civics feel like there's too much technology crammed into them when you buy Honda you want simplicity and reliablity
I would have an 8th gen sedan but the 8th gen coupe is butt ugly.
I 100% agree.
I 100% disagree.
Nick DiNunzio u dumb Asf
Good one
You're crazy.
this guy is an fortune teller for my brain...I am one of the guys who hated the EP3s body style and gear shift being on the dash..
i have the 8th gen coupe si, its cool.
+JR14 Hey JR14 Keep Up The Good Work... Haters Will Hate!!!!
I’ve had both and can tell you 9th is better for power without reving the shit out if it
Oh yea absolutely the K24 definitely does rip!
9th gen civic best civic so far ... If you mods it correctly looks great ...
better looking car, but the k24 engine is nowhere near as good to tune as k20
Nice video...i currently own a 8th and am loving it.....
Haters will hate on us 9th gen drivers... The 8th gens are amazing.. But I love my 2014 SI coupe.. More power.. Power fun to drive.. I do love the 8thgens front seats though.. Super comfy.. But most 8thgen owners are douche bags TALKIN down on us 9thgen owners.. SMDH
It's all good, 8th genes just wanted honda to keep full vtec, 8000 rpm, and use better quality plastics,clothe, headliners etc. while adding the good things the 9th gen bring torque smoother shifting, etc.
Great vid I am definitely subscribing
Only thing I don't like about the 8th gen and so on Civic Si's is the Rev Hang 😒, coming from an 03' rsx type-s to the electronic throttle was a huge adjustment.
I have the experience to own a 9th that I love and back in 09 I use to drive my buddies 8th gen every saturday night for 2 hours while he was shitfaced and sleeping in the passenger seat. Loved ripping that thing on the autobahn while stationed in germany. Love hondas and they both have many pros. Only car I loved more was my 09 MS3 with full bolt ons and a tune that thing was quick(to me).
Still love my White 2013 HFP Si :P
BloodDrunk just bought a black 2015 Si with an HFP kit 🤤
8th gen all the way. looks better !!!
+Brian Lee why do you disagree with what I prefer? : (
+Brian Lee fair enough : )
regardless, civic Si are nice
I like both and tbh the 9th gen is newer so it will take time before really good parts and tunes are made for it. 8k redline is great but I'd rather have 174lbs torque over 139 and with tuning you could get higher numbers. the 8th has been around longer so people have figure out amazing tunes for it. Wait till people really start cracking into the 9th gen.
8th gen civic si and rsx 's are unique sporty Honda cars with a unique engine k20. Not to mock a 9th gen but it has a k24 from the tsx, accord, oddessy etc making none unique but still faster than the 8th gen. Now the 10th gen type r will be unique in the sense of having a 2.3 turbo n will deff beat both these gens.
Great review. Definitely subbing.
It sounds like he was talking shit the whole time instead of showing the pros and cons.
I feel like lmao'ing everytime you have to look down to find 3rd gear lol. Reminds me of the first day I got my Matrix XRS and was SUPER paranoid about shifting into reverse instead of 1st gear haha.
So much misinformation. The 8th gen never came with Bluetooth? Hondata makes kpro, what is Honda control, civic si doesn't have climate control, not lane departure warning... It's lane watch... Get your info right
Honda made an optional part for that blu-tooth
I’ve seen a lot of 8th gens with climate control in Canada, also the csx type s has it as well
This guy isn't revving the nuts off these si's. Just hold it a little longer
People who talk shit on Civic Si’s just don’t understand. Like I could’ve gotten a gti, I could’ve even tried getting a high mileage ST. But fuck that, who’s car is gonna run longer? Who’s car is cheaper to fix? And at the end of the day we both get smoked by a V8 🤷♂️
Just so you know I own a 8th gen and couldn't help but mention that if you had purchased one with the navigation it comes with Bluetooth
LOL TECHNOLOGY WISE fix that problem with a touch screen with Bluetooth and rear camera for $480... trust me was worth it. 😀
Lol after watching this I had the biggest smirk on my face, Everytime I get on double lane and line up with an 8th gen Si they never wanna go at it, especially when I see them revving the shit out of their engine before I even get close to them but as soon as I get next to them they just drive normal. My fb6 9th is stock so idk lol.
+Forever_Pinoy lol yeah..... come next to me ;) 439whp 8th gen life!
Stfu fan boy, Noones scared of that 9th gen
i fuck with 9th gens all day long idc lmfao
Jordany Vargas nobody cares about boosted cars
"the 8th gen is just as fun, but this... is just as fun" lmao
8th gen is better.
2012 is when Honda started 'penny pinching' and lost their touch...
They haven't been the same since.
Styling sucks since 2012.
Older video commenting in 2023 ;)
Funny how you SHRUNK when you transferred from 8th to 9th Gen LMAO
Haha I totally agree with you and I didn’t even noticed that I got smaller when i got into the 9th gen lol
8th gen all day
Btw 9th gen gang here .
I had a 2007 SI and it was totaled on 12/29/17. Had that car for 10 year and loved it everyday I drove it. It was always so much fun. Girl pulled out in front of me. I'm going to be 60 this year and still want the same year. Concerned of how it might have been taken care of.
Actually the Rabbit GTI started the tuner sport compact class, sport compacts didnt begin with Fast&The Furious...
not for him, this is the japans apart tuning scene, he is talking about.