MASTER Heel And Toe Downshifting Technique in 5 Minutes!

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  • @BrianMakse
    @BrianMakse  4 роки тому +21

    How is your heel and toe? Let me know! Leave me any questions here.

    • @peterg2345
      @peterg2345 10 місяців тому +3

      I've been heel toeing, double declutching since 1973. My first car was 3 on the tree and only had synchro in 3rd. I had to learn how to change gears properly if I wanted anything other than top gear. I still do it in my BRZ, and if I get it right I can get into the lower gear quicker than the synchros. Assuming double declutching.

    • @thirdiezaraspe1889
      @thirdiezaraspe1889 9 місяців тому

      is heel and toe can be use to pickup truck?

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  9 місяців тому +1

      @@thirdiezaraspe1889 anything with pedals

    • @honeyrn21
      @honeyrn21 8 місяців тому +1

      H civic si for 5 yrs, I was never able to do a heel-toe coz my foot is too narrow and small but I will practice again, what I always do is Brake-clutch-(foot off the brake) blip almost the same time with shift...is that bad?

    • @thazecomp7923
      @thazecomp7923 8 місяців тому

      @@honeyrn21 Good question. It's not the same thing when you take your foot off the brake. Go with as wide a shoe as possible and if that doesn't work consider some pedal covers that widen the brake and throttle pedal.

  • @nicklarson1951
    @nicklarson1951 Рік тому +91

    Well I'll be first attempting it with my 370z on my way home from work today, been driving manuals my whole 18 year driving career and this is the first video I've seen that made me feel like I could hone this skill easily enough. Great video, thanks for the breakdown! Hopefully it'll come as natural as the rest of driving has for me.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Рік тому +8

      Cheers, thanks! Keep practicing!

    • @briangaming1975
      @briangaming1975 Місяць тому

      How's your progress so far?

    • @PaulB-q3d
      @PaulB-q3d 18 днів тому

      Doesn’t the 370z do it for you 😂

    • @nicklarson1951
      @nicklarson1951 18 днів тому

      @@PaulB-q3d only sports and nismos have SynchroRev match, which can be turned off as well, but mine is a regular touring 370z.

    • @nicklarson1951
      @nicklarson1951 18 днів тому

      @@briangaming1975 took a bit to feel comfortable but I've gotten pretty good at it, it's even helped with my sim racing lol

  • @waynejohnson3214
    @waynejohnson3214 2 роки тому +45

    Outstanding tutorial. The concept that heel toe shifting is a braking technique is worth the price of admission.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  2 роки тому +2

      I'm glad you appreciate the correct message here!

  • @insid3493
    @insid3493 8 місяців тому +16

    I'm 17, heel and toe downshifting is one the best and most useful techniques I've learned in a manual. I started around last year after seeing keiichi tsuchiya doing it in a gunsai video. I then just tried it and after a few times, I was smooth with it and loved it.

    • @CakesAndCandlesj59
      @CakesAndCandlesj59 4 місяці тому

      Me too I’m 17 and learned it a few days ago I’m pretty smooth now

  • @ericostling7410
    @ericostling7410 13 днів тому +1

    Best presentation of this I have ever seen Brian. That said, it's simply a natural extension of all the tricks I learned watching my dad driving stick from the passenger seat growing up, including double-clutch and also cold starts without the ignition. He wasn't a racer, I'm not either, but when you're really in touch with your vehicle you know your throttle and clutch, what the engine wants for each gear and how it feels and sounds for the speed you're at.
    It's quite intuitive really with a little practice, whether you prefer to rotate the ball of the foot over the throttle or move the heel out from from under like I do for more security. I even tried this out on a bank left I know very well the other day, surprising the driver behind me trying to keep up. Kudos to whoever can take it to the next level, that's the art of it, separating someone like Andretti or Senna from a wannabe.

  • @junlee7763
    @junlee7763 2 роки тому +19

    Mr. Makse! Thank you for 6 steps you shared, it really helped me to improve how I drive.
    Somehow I always did not "clutct out" until I finish my braking or applying two steps of "brake off" and "clutch out" simultaneously. It didn't not only hindered my clutch engaging/release timing, but also lose the point of heel and toe; staying in power band. Next day after watching your lesson, it made a night and day difference, I don't upset my drivetrain as often as I used to, but stay in healthy RPM range :)

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  2 роки тому +3

      Brilliant! Thanks for the feedback and I'm glad it worked for you!

  • @zoomnpa9905
    @zoomnpa9905 Місяць тому +3

    Your suggested hack was a game-changer for me! I always thought it sounded too complicated or not worth learning when other videos talk about heel to toe, but I finally have the desire to learn and practice this technique because you taught us WHY and HOW. Thanks for making driving more fun, Brian!

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Місяць тому

      That's great to hear! Glad I could help and it means a lot!

  • @anonymous-qi5il
    @anonymous-qi5il 3 місяці тому +8

    Im 17 and just started driving like 6 months ago, I started trying this a month ago and everytime I do heel-and-toe downshifting and succeed, it makes me grin cuz it's just so fun and I feel cool 😂😂😂

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  3 місяці тому

      Nice work! Keep it up!
      (I didn’t perfect it until I was in my 20s)

    • @au1317
      @au1317 Місяць тому +1

      I'm 28 years old and after 12 years of driving manual it still puts a smile on my face when I get it "just right"

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Місяць тому

      @@au1317 Isn't that the best?

  • @leefranklin3054
    @leefranklin3054 Рік тому +4

    Oh crap, you do it like I do it! I roll my foot over, have for decade, and it was called "Rev Matching" when I was instructed. When I got into racing (well autoX) everyone was all about "Heel and Toe" and I tried doing it that way... but it felt dangerous in my Miata, so I abandoned the idea... but kept doing rev matching how I was taught as a kid, sometimes rolling my ankle, and when I am not in a hurry I tap brake and then tap throttle as I let out the clutch. So nice to know I wasn't doing it completely wrong all this time! Thank you!

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Рік тому +1

      This is the right way to do it, Lee! Take some of these tips and refine your technique!

    • @leefranklin3054
      @leefranklin3054 Рік тому +1

      @@BrianMakse Thank you, and I will review that video a bunch, favorited so I can find it easily. I appreciate it a bunch. Darn, I will need to do some back road driving for 'no reason at all' in order to work on this.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Рік тому

      Excellent excuse for a drive!

  • @markjennings9115
    @markjennings9115 29 днів тому +4

    You need to include a double clutch, heck of a lot smoother than just stabbing a lower gear with only a throttle blip. The key is matching engine speed with transmission output shaft speed…..basically spooling up the cluster gear to engage without depending on the synchro clutches.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  28 днів тому

      I’ll leave that to you. It’s slower and further complicates an already complex technique.

    • @thedon9670
      @thedon9670 16 днів тому +1

      Double clutching is only for 1950s trucks lol.

    • @markjennings9115
      @markjennings9115 15 днів тому

      @@thedon9670 I have a 2000’s Porsche and I 1960s truck and both shift smoother double clutching……

  • @awgie
    @awgie 7 місяців тому +7

    I've recently obtained a manual FRS, this is my first manual daily ever. I've been getting alot more comfortable behind the wheel and rev match downshifting is becoming much easier. I've tried doing heel toe downshifts and I've always press too hard on the brake thus almost sending myself thru the windshield. I'll get it at some point. I'm just going to focus on getting the basics down to a science, It's only been 3 or so months

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  7 місяців тому +2

      Practice makes perfect. Some of the tips and tricks will help. Practice safely!

    • @Indacouch-li8jp
      @Indacouch-li8jp 7 місяців тому

      @@BrianMaksewhen i first tried to learn, it didn’t go well because i choose all the wrong situations and speeds to try it, best to learn on long off ramps and long hills coming to a stop light or stop sign, been doing it for 2 years and now can heel toe with muscle memory approach ez pass tolls after just speeding and breaking every traffic violations imaginable, don’t drive like that no more since i got it out of my system but when learning, safety should be number 1 priority, don’t want to leave your loved ones behind trying to be speed racer. i don’t drag race, never have never will, my dream is to be weekend warrior auto cross but my wallet doesn’t facilitate it 😂

  • @JSG1901
    @JSG1901 Місяць тому +3

    Hey Brian, nice to see this. I sent it on to a few friends. What you didn’t specifically mention that might be worth saying is, when you do this right the clutch is released very quickly. There’s no eeeeeasing the clutch out, it’s really just a blip-release movement, where the throttle blip and the clutch release are technically sequential but feel like all at the same time.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  29 днів тому

      Clutch release speed depends on a number of factors, but generally, yes, it should be done quickly.

  • @aldo90731
    @aldo90731 2 роки тому +3

    Excellent tutorial!
    I own a 2018 Fiat 124 Spider Abarth with manual transmission. Your video helped me to finally understand how to heel and toe. Love the sound of that Abarth exhaust every time I blip the throttle...!

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  2 роки тому +2

      Hope you put all of this to work!

    • @aldo90731
      @aldo90731 2 роки тому +3

      @@BrianMakse Yes. I've been practicing my heel and toe!

  • @CraigMartin-zq5uu
    @CraigMartin-zq5uu 4 місяці тому +14

    At 64 years and having never raced or taken a school... I've spent the last 45 years reading books and magazine articles, trying to figure out heel and toe... You just taught me the sequence in 12 minutes!!! THANKS! I just bought a GT-40 replica for track days... You have an open invitation to take her out at Barber when I get her ready

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  4 місяці тому +1

      This is exactly why I produced this episode, Craig. Practice makes perfect! Barber is a lovely circuit, driven it a couple of times. Would be nice if IMSA brought us back there.

  • @jakebisket
    @jakebisket 10 місяців тому +1

    I’ve always been told how important it is to learn the heel and toe technique but never knew where to start, excited to try it out. Thanks!

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  10 місяців тому

      I don’t know how important it is, but it sure is fun when you master it!

  • @mikeydude750
    @mikeydude750 10 місяців тому +10

    Just bought a GR Corolla last month after driving a bunch of older, far less powerful cars. Been driving manuals for most of the 18 years I've been driving because I do like rowing through the gears but I wouldn't call myself an expert by any means and heel-toe is something I've always struggled with. My new car also has the auto-blip feature and I do love how it shifts compared to my previous manuals but I'm definitely gonna practice some of these tips next time I'm out on some fun roads!

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  10 місяців тому +1

      The rev matching feature is a great way to help you get the feel for it before you start working on the throttle blip on your own. Great car. Enjoy.

    • @hatchirolla
      @hatchirolla 8 місяців тому

      Same here except this is my first manual lol, driving it is no problem and regular downshifting with a throttle blip isnt a problem for me but when it comes to heel toe i struggle, i either blip to little or to much

  • @marcasswellbmd6922
    @marcasswellbmd6922 Рік тому +13

    This was one of the best heel toe vid's I have seen in a while..

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Рік тому

      Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed the video and found it helpful. Keep practicing and you'll master the heel toe technique in no time!

  • @mystoller
    @mystoller 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for this, explained things much better than I have heard before!

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  9 місяців тому

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @markgentile6547
    @markgentile6547 5 місяців тому +2

    Hi Brian. Great explanation. Shoe selection was a good tip. The only thing I’m now struggling with is timing. My engine revs and falls so fast, I either miss the blip or get a surge (i.e. let out the clutch too early or too late). Any suggestions?

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  5 місяців тому +1

      Practice, practice, practice! It's definitely all in the timing. Make sure you have the fundamentals down and practice that kick of the throttle so you get that 2k bump in engine speed consistently first. After that, then move on to practicing the timing of clutch release. In a safe location of course!

  • @jimst3r1
    @jimst3r1 9 місяців тому +2

    Nice car pal, i drive an i20N and this was an awesome video i shared to a bunch of newbies who wanna heel toe.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  9 місяців тому

      Glad you enjoyed it! I’ve never seen an i20N road car, but I definitely know what it is. Great car. Thanks for sharing!

  • @ignatdinkov1990
    @ignatdinkov1990 Рік тому +3

    Hi. I am usually using heel and tho daily and it is really handy in my 90s Nissan NX 100. My question is does heel and tho wear my car down and is it bad for the car if you do it daily.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Рік тому +1

      Great question! It doesn’t cause any extra wear at all, assuming you’re doing it properly.

  • @youngbuck4044
    @youngbuck4044 7 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for this! I just found your channel after accidentally clutchless downshifting successfully 😂 didn’t know that was possible. This is a huge help if you have clogged cats too because they make the rpms drop too fast as you let off the gas.
    Techniques like this make an old 2001 GM nv3500 much more drivable from my experience. Aside from an actual race the 4.3 V6 with a manual can get down

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  7 місяців тому

      I’m here to serve. Glad you enjoyed it and hopefully learned something new!

  • @kurtmehrmann
    @kurtmehrmann 2 місяці тому +2

    Perfect explanations. I've driven manuals most of my life. 16 to almost 50. But, my brain is stuck with quickly removing my foot from the brake to blip, then back on the brake. I generally time my braking for this and make it smooth enough, however I'm desperate to do this properly. I currently drive a simple 2022 Kia Rio manual. The dang pedals are too far apart. I suppose, like you do, I should find wide Van's shoes! 😢

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  2 місяці тому +1

      You’ve got this, just keep practicing!

  • @bridgettehurst2958
    @bridgettehurst2958 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks so much - first car was a Manuel but never learned this technique - hope to use it soon with a Miata I plan to purchase -

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  11 місяців тому

      Keep me posted! Happy to help!

  • @irizaribikes
    @irizaribikes 4 роки тому +5

    Thank you for this. You, sir, are a natural at teaching/coaching, and enjoyable to watch your excellent video presentations. And picking the nice colored Vans for this helps viewers follow your feet much easier.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  4 роки тому

      Thanks, Alex. I’ve been teaching this stuff since the 90s. And I do love my Vans!

  • @acanuck1679
    @acanuck1679 7 місяців тому +1

    Excellent stuff. Thank you very much. I think this might help me get over my fear that my big feet (in my 2008 MX-5) will lead me to screw things up. Big thumbs up.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  7 місяців тому

      Cheers! If you enjoyed this, please give it a share!

  • @zigmoto360
    @zigmoto360 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the great video! I need to learn this! Your video also made me miss my Veloster N. Man, that was a great car...

  • @alastairwatson3201
    @alastairwatson3201 Місяць тому +1

    A great video that was well-structured, logical and comprehensive. Two things, though: 1/. I drive older cars - Fiats, in particular - one of which has dodgy synchromesh and thus needs to be double-de-clutched. I heel / toe and double-de-clutch necessity but it’d be handy for some people to have that process explained. 2. Could you do a video on left-foot braking, please? Thanks.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Місяць тому

      Agreed on the old stuff! Glad you enjoyed this. We’re about to produce a remake on the topic.
      Left foot braking is my kryptonite! I can do it quite well, but even I’m not 100% confident in that environment. As a long time instructor and coach, I have to say that’s a track-only technique and not for public roads for a bunch of reasons, which I’d definitely discuss in an episode on the subject.

  • @synaptik111
    @synaptik111 10 місяців тому +1

    Great tutorial, thank you! I've been driving manuals for quite a while, but I'm having a really hard time keeping consistent brake pressure while attempting to blip the throttle. I always seem to increase the pressure which forces my car to dive. Any suggestions on how to get that right would be greatly appreciated. I'm currently practicing in my 2006 G35 6MT coupe prepping for upcoming HPDEs.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  10 місяців тому

      I think I expanded on just that concept in my old Hagerty column. Check it out and give it a try.
      www.hagerty.com/media/opinion/the-elsinore-files/recovering-the-lost-art-of-heel-and-toe/

  • @ScottFentonfullbe6
    @ScottFentonfullbe6 11 місяців тому +1

    Great video, thank you! It’s difficult to tell from the footage, when you kick the gas pedal is your heel coming off the floor, or does it stay planted? Would you say that your knee is pointed more into the steering column, or away from it? Cheers!

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  11 місяців тому +1

      Great questions! Whether my heel is off the floor or not depends on the car and how high off the floor the brake pedal is. In general and more often than not, my heel is off the floor. About the right knee, that depends on a few more factors, but in general it's slightly to the right of the steering column. Make sure your seating position is dialled in first, then work from there.

    • @ScottFentonfullbe6
      @ScottFentonfullbe6 11 місяців тому

      @@BrianMakse Hey, super cool to get a reply! Thank you! I look forward to working on this some more and getting the hang of it. My knee question came from a tip from another racer who suggested pivoting the right knee towards midline when braking, as that naturally moves the heel towards the gas pedal. I was curious as to whether you did the same. Regardless, at this point, I need to practice and figure out what works for me. Thanks again for a great video, Brian!

  • @KingZuluKing
    @KingZuluKing 5 місяців тому +1

    this seems like a proper instructions layed down in logical way, thanks al ot

  • @Jorge_Magallon
    @Jorge_Magallon 4 роки тому +1

    Like that you chose a car with an interesting exhaust note. Just like driving a manual, learning to drive one better is easier and more rewarding with satisfying and loud reactions from the exhaust. Great video.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks, Jorge. At the time I started the project, there weren’t many cars to choose from due to the pandemic, save for my personal cars, and Hyundai Canada has been excellent to work with. More importantly, the Veloster N is way too much fun. What a great car.

  • @robertferagotti4119
    @robertferagotti4119 9 місяців тому +1

    This was an excellent video! Im going to start practicing this tonight! ❤

  • @blueshark3098
    @blueshark3098 Рік тому +2

    Hi Brian, thanks for the great tutorial on heel and toe downshifting. Not a technique I can really do, because of an ankle fracture years ago, that severely limits rotation in my ankle. But my other point is that, most auto journalists and youtubers think that rev matching to do downshifts necessarily requires using the heel and toe technique. It doesn't. There is a simpler, more straightforward way to do your own rev matching, without incorporating the simultaneous braking of heel-and-toeing. Yes, heel and toeing is better on a race track, but it's not something you have to know how to do, in order to rev match downshifts, in a non-racetrack context. I think it's unfortunate that most Americans now seem to think that you have to know how to heel and toe to rev match downshifts, but, you really don't. Yeah, if you're gonna be racing or autocrossing, obviously it's best to know the technique. But most people can get along fine doing rev matching, without knowing how to do heel and toeing. Just my two cents worth.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Рік тому +2

      Glad you enjoyed it. Yes, you can match revs in different ways, but don't forget that you only have control of the brake pedal when using heel and toe.
      P. S. I'm a championship-winning racing driver first before being a UA-camr, decidedly not a journalist, and definitely not American.

  • @garethwynn01
    @garethwynn01 4 місяці тому +2

    What about double clutching?

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  4 місяці тому

      It’s a waste of time with a synchromesh gearbox and, as such, a marginal use case.

  • @chrisej5987
    @chrisej5987 4 роки тому +2

    I've never had a manual car I could practice heel toeing but its so nice and easy and satisfying to do it with your hands, on a motorcycle 😅

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  4 роки тому

      Exactly the same principle!

  • @RobertSherwood-e2y
    @RobertSherwood-e2y Місяць тому +1

    Do you ever skip a gear in a heel toe if for instance you have to go from 4th to 2nd?

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Місяць тому

      For now, don’t skip gears. When you get truly proficient you can think about improvising.

  • @marcasswellbmd6922
    @marcasswellbmd6922 Рік тому +1

    Great Vid I need to get used to my Brakes more than anything else.. I have a Manual Mustang GT and the Brakes are so sensitive..

  • @B16WGZ
    @B16WGZ 3 роки тому +4

    Very nice video, very nicely and clearly explained.
    My problem is, I can't for the life of me maintain a steady pressure on the brake pedal while blipping the throttle. Depending on traffic, and on my current speed, I apply just the right amount of brake pressure to get a nice and smooth deceleration. I look ahead and estimate what the final point of the deceleration will be, and then adjust the braking force so that the deceleration rate from here to there is as constant as possible. Sometimes I even start braking a bit earlier than strictly necessary, in order to get away with a lower deceleration rate. This provides a smooth experience for the passengers (which is my ultimate goal, and something I take pride in).
    But as soon as I rotate my foot to blip the throttle, that pressure changes. So, while the whole point of applying the heel & toe technique is to avoid jerking my passengers during a downshift, I actually end up jerking them while blipping the throttle. Which is not only annoying, but embarassing as well.
    It may be just a matter of training. I'll keep trying. But any tips or tricks that you think might help with this would be highly appreciated.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  3 роки тому +2

      Glad you enjoyed this, Vlad. I dropped a few more tips in my subsequent column at Hagerty. Have a read, apply those techniques, and let me know how it goes!
      www.hagerty.com/media/opinion/the-elsinore-files/recovering-the-lost-art-of-heel-and-toe/

    • @B16WGZ
      @B16WGZ 3 роки тому +3

      Thank you. The way you suggest to practice it in neutral and to gradualy increase the brake pedal pressure sounds like a great idea. I'll try that.
      Actually, your video has already helped me. The second time I watched it I realized I was doing it wrong. My car has an automatic rev match feature (which I've now disabled because I want to do it myself). I was trying to emulate the ARM's way of working, namely to stab the throttle quickly and sharply. And of course, once I did that, the brake pedal pressure also changed. I guess that was my mistake. You, on the other hand, seem to do it in one smooth and gradual move (albeit quite fast), rather than a sharp jab. I think that's the secret. I thought the revs had to jump suddenly by 2000 rpm or so, because that's how I had seen the ARM work, but actually it's also fine if they increase a bit more gradually. This way I might be able to maintain a steadier pressure on the brake pedal.
      I will keep practising.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  3 роки тому +1

      @@B16WGZ I'm glad this is working for you. What you're seeing with my downshifts is the result of thirty years of practice...it doesn't happen overnight! Keep up the good work and practice!

  • @BionicBuddhaX
    @BionicBuddhaX 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you Brian for this video! I thought I was going crazy. When I learned to heel and toe on my MR2 Turbo about 25 years ago, I had to get those dressy pedal covers in order to get the brake and gas pedals close enough together to heel and toe this way. Every car I've driven since, the pedals are too far apart for this method of heel and toe. Most videos show the driver using their toes on the brake pedal and their heel on the throttle. Although this solves the pedal distance issue, I find it very unwieldy. Having to move my whole leg to stab the throttle upsets the braking, I could never get the hang of it. I began to wonder whether the way I originally learned what's wrong, and if I was just too uncoordinated to heel and toe the proper way.
    Your video confirms that IDID learn the right way of heel and toe driving, and all that's missing is a really wide pair of skate shoes! Thanks!

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  6 місяців тому +1

      Awesome! That's great to hear! Glad this helped!
      Pedal spacing has changed primarily for safety (Lotus excepted) and wide shoes along with good pedal covers can help.

    • @IceNFire09
      @IceNFire09 5 місяців тому +1

      I've always been in a similar situation. Pedals too far apart to use this method. When I recently got my Miata, I was determined to get it right since virtually every review I've seen has said that it is perfectly set up for heel toe. I have been able to do it well enough to start commiting to muscle memory, but I still find I have to put the left side of my foot uncomfortably close to the edge of the brake pedal to reach the throttle with the right side, even with a size 11 Wide foot. So I ordered a pedal extender and installed it today, so we'll see how it works out tomorrow!

    • @BionicBuddhaX
      @BionicBuddhaX 5 місяців тому

      @@IceNFire09 Excellent, good luck and enjoy!

  • @matthewreed7471
    @matthewreed7471 28 днів тому +1

    Cool tips Brian, thanks! I'm curious about the 2k stab, is that range pretty true for all cars and shifts, i.e. 5-4 and 3-2?

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  28 днів тому +1

      In general, yes, but the point is all about learning the movement required to blip the throttle reliably and consistently. Once you get that down, you’ll naturally refine your technique to suit your gearbox in any given situation.

  • @brandondascoli1916
    @brandondascoli1916 Місяць тому +1

    Dude where did you get the SAVETHEMANUAL shirt? I need that

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Місяць тому

      That’s our own line of merch! Enjoy some shopping at brianmakse.myspreadshop.com/savethemanuals/all?collection=vbbYxsOhWG

  • @kallo182
    @kallo182 2 місяці тому

    Brian, what is this welded Tube behind your foot at 9:50 ?
    It is pure Metal and not painted, so it dont look like it would be Stock.
    Is this the Steering Column?

  • @benjaminwiner6220
    @benjaminwiner6220 26 днів тому

    Middle of right foot on right edge of brake pedal?

  • @amospizzey1
    @amospizzey1 29 днів тому

    Are there variable foot positions e.g I break with ball of foot and blip with heal ( I’m 57 so old school version)

  • @SolidMGSnake
    @SolidMGSnake 5 місяців тому +1

    6:41 This is key. I would always have my foot in the middle of the pedal because that's how you would normally brake. Good tip

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  5 місяців тому

      I’m here to serve. Keep practicing!

  • @marcwentzel7141
    @marcwentzel7141 5 місяців тому

    Great video. I just enjoy using the technique, it's just fun. When you nail the downshift it just feels 👍

  • @MrJacobThrall
    @MrJacobThrall 18 днів тому +2

    I taught myself to do this in a long-wheelbase 1991 VW T4 Transporter ("Eurovan", I believe it was known as over there) camper conversion.
    Why the hell did I do that? Fair question.
    Well, maintaining speed through the corners and being ready, in the right gear, to exit them, is actually very useful when you're manhandling a big heavy bastard round twisty roads in hill country.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  18 днів тому

      I love that there are other uses for this technique other than the race track! Totally understand why you needed it in that VW!

  • @komoru
    @komoru 3 місяці тому +7

    The only thing you forgot to mention in this otherwise great tutorial, is that the throttle pedal height and the gap (from left to right) between the brake pedal and the throttle pedal is not optimal on all cars, and on some cars you'll need a pedal and/or spacer kit.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  3 місяці тому +1

      Precisely. Troubleshooting is exactly what this comments section is for. There’s far too much variation in pedal box layouts to begin to address that without leading to confusion, which is the opposite of what we’re trying to do here.

  • @flyfishaholic
    @flyfishaholic 3 місяці тому +1

    I can rev match ok, but I can only do it as a separate process before a brake point. My issue is brake modulation while doing heel toe, in other words my braking pulses as I roll my foot to blip the throttle. Does heel toe only work well during heavy braking (for example during racing where you’re hard on the brakes anyhow) and less modulation is required or are you able to lightly brake while heel-toeing without pulsing the brake pedal while blipping the throttle.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  3 місяці тому +1

      I learned it quicker at racing school due to the heavier brake pedal pressure required on track. Now I use the technique every day. Practice the trick I discuss in this episode where you’re stopped and refine the movement to get that 2k rpm bump. You’ll get it.

    • @flyfishaholic
      @flyfishaholic 3 місяці тому

      @@BrianMakse will do, thanks! I do want to get good at it

  • @alexitoe30
    @alexitoe30 5 місяців тому +1

    I own an elantra gt n line. My pedal is not that responsive i think is due to that turbo lag . Which i dont know how you do it with the veloster N

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  5 місяців тому

      An N and an N Line are two very different things. N is engineered for heel and toe specifically. Still, it’s going to take some practice. My guess is that your N line doesn’t like brake and throttle applications at the same time.

  • @NoelDanlog-jz3gm
    @NoelDanlog-jz3gm 3 дні тому +1

    The blip, before or after shift?

  • @The_Drive_Inside
    @The_Drive_Inside 3 роки тому +2

    Awesome video!!! Which is easier to execute a proper heel toe... a gas pedal that hinges at the bottom or the top?!?! Or does it even matter?

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  3 роки тому +1

      Great question, get it all the time. Pedal type doesn’t matter...even the brake pedal.

    • @The_Drive_Inside
      @The_Drive_Inside 3 роки тому

      @@BrianMakse so can I pick your brain as to why some pedals are like that. My 19 camaro SS 1LE has it but my buddies 17 scat pack doesn’t. There’s got to be a reason why

  • @protectork9831
    @protectork9831 7 місяців тому +2

    Been driving manual for 25 years , never had to use heel toe or double clutch . Third world none of us use these techniques , you guys make it more complicated for god knows what reason

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  7 місяців тому +1

      Performance driving requires it.

    • @gumbilicious1
      @gumbilicious1 Місяць тому

      I learn for fun. I never used any advanced manual gearbox techniques for the first 10 years of driving manuals because i didn’t know what they really were. I have learned a number of them now because I got a fun sporty manual and I think it’s fun as hell.
      If I start taking my vehicle to a track then I am definitely gonna want to know this stuff. But right now it just makes driving more engaging and fun

    • @memes_gbc674
      @memes_gbc674 19 днів тому

      it's more fun and it makes your clutch last longer

  • @RonnieMorgan-fw8qj
    @RonnieMorgan-fw8qj 8 місяців тому

    In my Type R. I keep it easy, & smooth. I keep the rev match on. My TSX, I’m gonna start practicing. But usually I just blip the throttle.

  • @seanjermy2692
    @seanjermy2692 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks! Great session.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  9 місяців тому

      Cheers! Keep practicing!

  • @msbrownbeast
    @msbrownbeast 8 місяців тому

    When I did my first driving school event with the local car club, we were instructed to clutch in, downshift (but pausing for a split second when the shifter is at the neutral position, then blip the gas, then complete the downshift to the desired lower gear, then let out the clutch. This is for a car with a synchromesh gear box. Is there any advantage to this method of heel and toe?

  • @imadeyoureadthis1500
    @imadeyoureadthis1500 Місяць тому +1

    What if your accelerator is floor mounted and not in line with the other pedals? I can’t do normal heel toe as my foot can’t turn enough so I have my heel on the brake and toe on the accelerator

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Місяць тому

      Please don’t do that.

    • @imadeyoureadthis1500
      @imadeyoureadthis1500 Місяць тому

      @@BrianMakse why not

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Місяць тому

      @@imadeyoureadthis1500massively less control braking with your heel. Definitely don’t do that.

  • @boots_n_coots
    @boots_n_coots 4 роки тому +1

    Great video! Personal note: I’m only 5’ 4”, and in my C7 ‘Vette, with the seat in proper position I found I could not reach the clutch pedal without a big left leg stretch. Very awkward. However I purchased a purpose-built mod that adds about 1 1/2 in (40mm) to the pedal height. What a difference. So much better. (The guy makes these in three flavors: Corvette, Camaro and Mustang).

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  4 роки тому

      Sometimes that's what it takes. Glad you enjoyed the video, T!

  • @george1982ok
    @george1982ok Рік тому

    Do you find old 90’s Italian cars make it easier to heel and toe with their pedal arrangement? I have owned a couple and I find it easier to heel and toe in them.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Рік тому

      It all depends on the pedal layout. I’ve driven many Ferraris of that era and the pedals are always arranged properly, but I can’t speak to other marques.

  • @eckomob6898
    @eckomob6898 2 місяці тому

    Auto Rev match on the Veloster N is pretty good. I have a 22 VN and my friend has a 19 VN PP. Both cars are 6 speed and his Rev match is incredibly slow. The 2019 cars had a sea of issues, as can be expected with a new car model. High pressure fuel pumps are now on recall, thankfully. 750$ for a part alone. Everything else seems to be worked out on the last year made VNs. Just need the Elantra N turbo and Kona hot pipe.

  • @kurtnebiker8319
    @kurtnebiker8319 Місяць тому

    Brilliant advice, Brian. THANKS!

  • @dankmemer2774
    @dankmemer2774 27 днів тому +1

    It also depends a lot on throttle response and pedal placement. I have been in cars that is perfect for heel toe and cars make it impossible.
    If a car has sluggish throttle response, you will need to hold your foot on the gas rather than just a quick blip to bring the revs up which makes it difficult to heel toe.
    If the gas is too far from the brakes, you'll have trouble reaching both with 1 foot. Too close, and you may accidentally strike the gas when you don't mean to. If the gas sits too low from the brakes, you'll have to depress the brakes a lot before you can strike the gas with 1 foot. Too high and you will hit the side of the gas pedal instead of the surface.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  27 днів тому

      A lot of it depends. If you want the best heel and toe tutorial that works for the broadest range of drivers and cars that you can enjoy for free on youtube, this is it. Alternatively, I’m available for personalized performance driver training and you don’t want to know what that costs.

    • @dankmemer2774
      @dankmemer2774 26 днів тому

      @BrianMakse no this video is great. I'm just putting this out there for new drivers because sometimes, no matter how hard you try, the car may just not be up for the task of heel toe downshifts. Yes eventually with practice you can still do it with even a car with poorly set up pedals, but the experience is still not as fun as in a car with pedals designed with that kind of driving in mind. I thought I just sucked at heel toes in my first manual car because I could only get it sometimes even after practicing for a while. When I got a new car, I was able to nail the heel toe downshift perfectly every time and effortlessly, too.

  • @hmackprotection1
    @hmackprotection1 4 роки тому +5

    Yes!! This video is what is needed! Thank you 💯🙏🏾

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks T! Glad you enjoyed.

  • @honeyrn21
    @honeyrn21 8 місяців тому

    H civic si for 5 yrs, I was never able to do a heel-toe coz my foot is too narrow and small but I will practice again what I always do is Brake-clutch-(foot off the brake) blip almost the same time with shift...

  • @Econo.rocket
    @Econo.rocket Місяць тому

    I was pretty good at heal toe in my mazdaspeed Protege, but I can't seem to make it smooth in my mk7 gti. The gass pedal is just so much lower than the brake pedal 😢

  • @bull419
    @bull419 10 місяців тому

    Excellent explanation on the technique !!

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  10 місяців тому

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @tw2210
    @tw2210 4 роки тому +1

    Best wishes to you Brian from UK 🇬🇧.
    Great videos; as always.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  4 роки тому

      Thanks, Tim! This one was a lot of work.

  • @mansur_ali
    @mansur_ali 8 місяців тому

    i dont have a car yet but when i do ill probly get the timing wrong. it seems too complicated to push the clutch in, shift down and bip the throttle at the same time. maybe i should get a sim rig to practice

  • @brainsurgsa
    @brainsurgsa 4 роки тому +1

    thank you Brian always rethorically the best of all driving videos, but driving a Porsche with an incredible fast PDK your suggestion want work, best from Germany

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you! PDK definitely removes the need for heel and toe!

  • @wanirayees6311
    @wanirayees6311 7 місяців тому

    Is it same for both the uphill and downhill???

  • @Mister2_
    @Mister2_ 4 роки тому +1

    Great video!
    I used to downshift with half my foot like you do but I noticed when your foot is deep on the brake I actually use my heel and toe
    It feels weird to be fully on the brakes with half of my foot

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  4 роки тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed! Like I said, racing forces you to learn the technique. It was sink or swim for me!

  • @cdcaterham
    @cdcaterham 4 місяці тому +1

    Absolute beginner here.. so the purpose of heel and toe is to : slow down but keep revs higher than a normal downshift so that the car has to do "less work" leaving the bend to accellerate out of the corner. Is that roughly it?

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  4 місяці тому

      The purpose is to complete a downshift (or, sometimes, more than one) while braking without upsetting the balance of the car.

    • @ervinsz
      @ervinsz 4 місяці тому

      Yes, with breaking and without heel toe techniq wheels on drive axle will spin at different speed which results in sliding , and losing speed at the corner.
      Sometimes you need that little slide, but for speed it must be as ideal as possible without any slide

  • @alanf5351
    @alanf5351 2 місяці тому +1

    Was thinking maybe the “L” in Save the Manuals logo can be a manual shifter with a boot. The shifter can be the vertical part of the “L” and the boot the horizontal part of the “L”

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  2 місяці тому

      I don't think we're going to change our design. It's been silly popular and we even sell it trackside at IMSA races.

  • @MrsKuusumu
    @MrsKuusumu 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for your tutoria!

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  11 місяців тому

      My pleasure. Practice and let me know if you have any questions!

  • @EugenioPicado
    @EugenioPicado 4 роки тому

    Great guide for drivers to learn. I’ve found that blipping the gas in the middle of the shift works best for me (matched revs as I’m about to enter the gear). Less wear in synchros when available, and much better in dog gear engagement transmission.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks, Eugenio!

    • @craigyirush3492
      @craigyirush3492 Рік тому

      I do it like this too. If there weren’t synchros you’d have to double declutch and heel and toe!

  • @Quazacolt
    @Quazacolt Місяць тому

    some pointers: if you have weird or long gear ratios, or you have the need to go even lower gears such as gear 2 or even 1 with higher vehicle speeds, you'll need a lot more than 2k RPM and as such you'll need to stab (and hold) the accel pedal even longer.

  • @actuallyfeng334
    @actuallyfeng334 Рік тому

    why your gas and brake pedals are closer?The stock set up is quite far away between this two pedals.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Рік тому

      That’s a bone stock Veloster N.

    • @actuallyfeng334
      @actuallyfeng334 Рік тому

      @@BrianMakse I can't reach the gas pedal on my N...

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Рік тому

      @@actuallyfeng334 have you tried sitting a little closer?

    • @actuallyfeng334
      @actuallyfeng334 Рік тому

      @@BrianMakse Close enough.I mean I can't reach the gas pedal while braking.I have to roll my ankle over to heel toe.

  • @Stephincyber
    @Stephincyber 22 дні тому +1

    I want to heal & toe...1 problem...I have a tran tibial amputation left leg below the knee..My goal is to drive a manual again..I wont give up.. Its learning how to properly use my prosthetic heel & toe by feel when i can only feel from my calf muscle..

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  22 дні тому

      I love it! You're a true inspiration. If I had some experience and knew how to help you, I'd be there in a hot minute.

  • @troysong33
    @troysong33 2 роки тому +1

    Hey Brian thanks for the tutorial, the practice you mentioned is really helping me to get a feel for the throttle response etc. have one question though for you, I have a nd2 Miata and the brake pedal and the gas pedal seems really far apart and I have a hard time using the rolling method you mentioned, rather I use kind of heel and toe diagonally to connect both pedals. I saw your other videos about Miata’s and it seem really easy for you. Is it just me not knowing the right footing positions or it is really the case nd Miata pedals are far from each other? Thanks!

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  2 роки тому +1

      Hey Troy! Try a wider shoe and if that doesn’t work, try quality wide pedal covers. The motion should be just like I depicted in this episode.

    • @troysong33
      @troysong33 2 роки тому

      @@BrianMakse thanks for the tip! Will try those out

  • @fishbert17
    @fishbert17 Рік тому +2

    I thought heel and toe was for rev matching the gearbox to the lower gear about to be selected, reducing wear and tear on synchromesh.
    I’m guessing that isn’t the case?

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Рік тому

      It is not the case.

    • @fishbert17
      @fishbert17 Рік тому

      @@BrianMakse thanks for letting me know. Can I ask what the purpose of heel and toe is? Sorry if I’m being thick 🙂

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Рік тому

      @@fishbert17 it's all covered in the episode, I'm not being imperious, but I have to run to my radio show now

  • @bodyelev8
    @bodyelev8 Місяць тому

    I have a ‘24 Miata and sometimes when I try to practice heel and toe, while trying to blip the gas my shoe gets in between the brake and the actual accelerator pedal so I guess I gotta wear wider shoes lol

  • @Audfile
    @Audfile 8 місяців тому

    What about all this and double clutching?

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  8 місяців тому

      Why on earth would anyone double clutch a modern sports car? Or any modern car for that matter?

    • @Audfile
      @Audfile 8 місяців тому +1

      @BrianMakse you're the expert, you tell me? All the vids say I need to. 06 XRS with that lotus transmission. I got a brand new transmission this year and added LSD. It likes going into 3rd better when cold when I double it, so seems to benefit... ? Thanks for your advice.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  8 місяців тому

      ​@@Audfile I'm happy to take that mantle of expert on this subject. Double clutching is romanticized by non-drivers because it's only relevant to dog boxes aka manuals with straight cut gears aka manuals without synchronizers.
      In 2024, the double clutch technique irrelevant to 99.9999999% of the cars that will enter the conversation and it's certainly not what we're talking about here.
      For those in the 0.0000001% who actually drive a many many decades old road car or many decades old racing car that actually has a dog box, then sure, double clutch to your heart's content.
      If you don't drive one of those things, ignore anyone who uses the term 'double clutch'. They're misleading you with nonsense. In context of shifting modern gearboxes, aka those with synchronizers, it's an absolute waste of time, energy, and movement.
      For what it's worth, this video addresses performance driving, not the idiosyncrasies of unique, cold gearboxes.

    • @Audfile
      @Audfile 8 місяців тому

      @@BrianMakse so Vin Diesel was full of shit?

  • @scototleysr.3434
    @scototleysr.3434 4 роки тому +2

    Great explanation! Thank you sir

  • @BETTER.ART.
    @BETTER.ART. 5 місяців тому

    what if you have a really heavy stock flywheel?

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  5 місяців тому

      Sounds like an excuse to me.

    • @BETTER.ART.
      @BETTER.ART. 5 місяців тому

      @@BrianMakse I find it really hard to even just simply rev match sometimes. I have to "blip" it for a little longer to get the revs high.
      That's why I haven't tried to heel and toe yet.

  • @timtraver1
    @timtraver1 4 роки тому

    Hey Brian! Appreciate your work for the community. As I've followed you and your motorsport writing, I've always enjoyed your pieces in publications as well as on social media. I'm not sure if we have ever crossed paths on the actual track, but I know a racer when I hear one. :)
    The only comments I have are that you did not give much history as to how the technique came about, and how important it was for racing cars not equipped with synchros in their gearbox. If one did not learn how to properly downshift and blip to match the revs exactly, not only would you disrupt the cars balance, but you would ultimately end up destroying the gears.
    There also was a method of double clutch downshifting that helped with a synchro-less gearbox that added a few more steps to your 6 (brake, clutch in, shift to neutral, clutch out, blip, clutch in, shift to gear, clutch out, roll off brake = 9?). It is certainly not necessary to teach this to any recent enthusiasts that are not driving small race cars with no synchros anymore, but it is part of the historical development of these methods.
    Also, you never explained why it was called the heel and toe, as the more recent pedal boxes are close enough to not have to put your foot in a more sideways manner to get the proper blip (with your heel instead of the side of your foot by rolling).
    But overall, kudos to narrating a nice concise piece on the (current day) methods to teach yourself the lost art of downshifting. I really do think it is a shame that the youth of today aren't given more opportunity to buy manual gearbox cars to keep the thrill alive.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  4 роки тому

      Hey Tim! Thank for you note, love it.
      Everything you mentioned ended up cut from the script for a range of reasons. Depending on how this video performed, there’s room for a follow up guide.

  • @ChrisCram
    @ChrisCram 3 роки тому +1

    this is awesome Brian! Well done and thank you for this!

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  3 роки тому

      Glad you enjoyed it! If you’re practicing, let me know how it’s going!

  • @inthere2it
    @inthere2it 10 днів тому +1

    The hardest thing for me is driving a race car with a very stiff brake pedal and still doing this. I find it very hard to keep a consistent brake pressure when transitioning to stabbing the throttle.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  10 днів тому

      Agreed, that takes practice.

  • @craigyirush3492
    @craigyirush3492 Рік тому

    Can’t you blip the throttle as the gear lever is in neutral in between the higher and lose gear? As you would in double declutching.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Рік тому

      That's what big rig truck drivers do.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Рік тому

      Also, no. It's not the same thing.

    • @craigyirush3492
      @craigyirush3492 Рік тому

      @@BrianMakse what’s not the same thing?

  • @chrisbradley1192
    @chrisbradley1192 7 днів тому

    9:43 I think you meant to say "So the right side of your foot stabs the accelerator pedal."

  • @Audfile
    @Audfile 8 місяців тому +1

    Got a 6 speed Lotus with LSD in my XRS. She's a backroad beast. Especially in the wet.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  8 місяців тому

      Which Lotus?

    • @Audfile
      @Audfile 8 місяців тому

      @@BrianMakse came this way, 2ZZGE engine and 6 speed lotus transmission. "Corolla Si Type R" basically.

    • @Audfile
      @Audfile 8 місяців тому

      @@BrianMakse although I put in the LSD this year. Tons of upgrades already.

  • @tylerbishop9981
    @tylerbishop9981 3 роки тому

    I had a ranger were the synchronizer was going out. I had to hit the gas before I could downshift to 3rd gear.

  • @paulpellico3797
    @paulpellico3797 4 роки тому +1

    i guess, and don't laugh, is why?
    i mean, i have been driving sticks since a young kid and never learned this, but although the occasional straight-90 degree up stop sign with an idiot stopped at my bumper stress and panics, i never feel i needed this.
    is this simply for really pushing corners?
    i thought i drove the standard trans well.
    i always thought heel n toe was simply the ability to roll from the break to the gas seamlessly in the hill-stop situation.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  4 роки тому

      I hope this helped! Give it a try (safely)!

  • @Docinaplane
    @Docinaplane Місяць тому +1

    I have a Lotus Evora GT. The pedals are so close together that occasionally when I brake, I accidently hit the throttle, lol

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Місяць тому +1

      I know…drove one a couple of years ago. You definitely need narrow shoes for that pedal box.

  • @manuelaguirre1062
    @manuelaguirre1062 28 днів тому +3

    Arent u supposed to put it in neutral first and then blip throttle, this speeds up internal gears then u press clutch and when u put it in gear there is no resistance. Its called double de clutching.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  15 днів тому

      Unless your car has a dog box, no.

  • @PiroFyre
    @PiroFyre 3 роки тому

    Current Veloster N owner but previous car was a 13 Civic Si. IMO, Civic Si was more fun to heel-toe on track because you're doing it while still in VTEC and you keep that motor screaming. None of the current turbo cars, including the Type-R, can replicate that all motor feeling.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  3 роки тому

      Every car is different. Some Porsches are pretty mega this way, as was the Viper ACR-X that I raced.

  • @ralphkuhn2291
    @ralphkuhn2291 Рік тому +1

    Thank you cut the explanation!

  • @tristanwest4329
    @tristanwest4329 6 днів тому

    can we talk abt just how good that veloster actually sounds

  • @nathanacuna
    @nathanacuna 11 місяців тому

    Thank you!

  • @SuperWeehoo
    @SuperWeehoo 23 дні тому +1

    I don’t even use my brake unless I need to, I can only imagine how upset others think, thinking I don’t have brake lights.. 🤷‍♂️ I drive an 04 WRX Wagon that has a Stage 1+ Tune. The purpose of this method is to alert others on the track that you are “slowing down”, which is not always necessary.