But why now??? It started after the first lockdown, always in the same place and always the same pod. In the beginning there where adult orcas with theittle ones and obviously they showed them what to do. If it would be everywhere, I would say Yes they hate us and have very good reason's for it. But something must had happened there. I whish somebody would come out and speak before something really bad happens and humans get hurt.
Is any group doing a serious study, collecting all information from those yachts, bottom color and type anti fouling, cat or mono, under sail or power, etc ? With sufficient data, we may see a correlation.
@@FtLMale1 It appears that the scientists are not publicly discussing the killing and harassing of orcas by tuna fishermen, but then no fishermen are confessing to killing and harassing orcas. They must be cautious, because the wrong measure could result in adult orcas ramming and sinking the hulls of plastic sailing yachts. Orcas can easily do this to many. family cruising yachts.
@@cimota72 protecting sailors from what? How many injuries or deaths have these particular Orcas caused? Zero? Cry me river. If you sail in the ocean you will get wet. Harden up soft touch.
Keep seal bombs on board and when they start hitting the boat drop one or two in, it will scare them away without hurting them, it's about the best option and could save your boat or even your life.
@@drm6089 So if we use your logic, Orcas will never change their behavior for any reason which I find unlikely for any intelligent being. Case in point, if they have never made it a habit of attacking sail boats in the past, then obviously they won't start attacking sailboats now. Hmmm so it must not be happening. Living beings do in fact change their behavior. Also, if they sink a boat or run it into the rocks, the people could in fact die from drowning or sharks. The best option is to quit ignoring the issue and find a safe deterrent to stop the behavior from being taught and passed down to the newer generation of Orcas.
1.)You can always get very loud firecrackers ( fireworks suppliers ).... that would do the job. 2.)How about electric cattle fence - give them a good rattle - I guarantee you they'll swim away faster than they came...... 3.) Harpoon or mount knife on the longest pole on the boat - after few get stabbed - they will go away.... Doing nothing is the most stupid thing you can do.
From the Orca viewpoint, boats come out regularly to be dismantled. Why else would the boat travel out, then shut off engines and drift? Then wait patiently for the dismantle? The only way this will stop is if the dismantle of boats is discouraged.
Such odd behaviour. They look like a team with a job of work to do. "Come on, lads. You push here, and I'll rip off this section. Got to get the job done." They're really intense, concentrating hard on doing a thorough job. I guess they've had a lot of practice by now. It's the guy swimming off triumphantly with a big bit of rudder in his bake that got me. I'd love to know what they think they're achieving.
My impression was that the two older ones were supervising the two younger ones in their work. And when it looked like we were getting away, the older ones would ram the boat to keep us "stunned". We must have looked like large prey.
@@cimota72 it’s scary, the raw power of these creatures. I’m used to horses, and if a horse decides to be a git it can do some serious damage but luckily they rarely do. To see creatures an order of magnitude more powerful than a horse throwing their weight around is terrifying. And this is their medium, not ours.
@@SkibereenWhistler We still don't know what are they doing and what for. But all until the time. If these orcas become too brazen, humans will find some way to deal with it.
@@cimota72 Go ahead, try it. :) If We dont hear from You ,, not our problem. That was only a message my friend, hope U are not stupid enough to kill the mesanger. If they wanted U gone :) You will be gone. Best.Val
That was not aggressive behavior... If the Orca were angry, trust me, you'd know about it... They are extremely powerful, and a ruder nudge, or nibble is not aggressive. These Orca are playing with the bendy thing that makes a noise when you bump it... I am not trying to say, that the experience for us mere humans, isn't scary and even frightening, however the Orca are just having fun in an otherwise boring desolate ocean...
"Avoiding this coast" is not an option for me, as I have my boat based here. So, we have to live with it it seems. I heard that a crew let the engine run but gowing backwards (slowly) which kind of helped them, as it would not allow the animals going at the rudder.
Also another boat here distracted them with their dinghy off the back. I was thinking maybe a couple of brightly coloured fenders on tethers might distract them.
@@cimota72 I tried the fender trick. It didn't really work. Neither did the boat hook. All they want is the rudder. I believe the coast guards recommend to pour 1 l of diesel from the transom, that seems to repel them. The worrying thing here is that the troublemaker teens seem to teach their ways to the younger.
Bloody Rubbish! Orcas are curious and friendly especially when they are young. You people just don’t understand This mammal or it’s character. They have NEVER harmed a human being. We swim with them in New Zealand and they are fully grown adults. They were playing with your boat. Silly people!!!!!
No adults. Since we don't see this behavior in full pods, I wonder where the adults are. Are these kids just out on their own by choice and go home when they are ready to? Have they been kicked out? Did the adults meet a catastrophe? I know elephant bulls at a certain age must leave their mother's herd. They form small groups which can start doing odd things in an Africa with too few bull elephants of mature age. It is the older bulls that look out for the younger bulls, until they adapt and go off on their own. Now I know the full orca pod has both bulls and cows but is there a similar behavior where the lack of adults leaves young orcas to figure things out for themselves?
@@cimota72 That is sad. But if they have no adults, this is a serious problem. If they continue this behavior as they grow, smaller vessels will be in even more trouble.
@@cimota72 What they did to save a region that had lost all its adult bulls, was they captured something like 10 bulls and introduced them. I don't think that has much chance with orcas, but if it could work it would be worth the effort. The adult bulls put a stop to the youngster's misbehavior and reinstalled peace to the region. They had been bullying the rhinos and hippos!
@@julieenslow5915 I heard about that , young teenager elephants killing and raping rhinos and Hippos, without an adult putting a stop to their behavior
A yacht sunk recently from an Orca encounter. I presume the rudder stock got damaged badly enough to swamp the boat. I havesailed from Biscay to the med a couple of times, fortunately no Orca sightings. At seventy now I doubt I will be down that way again, just as well I was in a Contessa 26.
That’s the second yacht sunk. I think they’re getting more aggressive. And never say never. If you’re going to survive the seas, there’s no better than a Contessa 26.
Reinforce and stiffen up the hulls. I also believe there is a certain frequency that drives them off too. We could look into that tech for boats and surfers. Just a small transmitter that pushes off sharks and orca.
My concern is for both the Orca and the humans ! If you had a captain that wasn't worth his salt yet he may panicked and ended up in the water with them ? Then what ?
There has to be an actual reason that they randomly started attacking boats. They don't hurt humans in the wild, I think they are starving and telling us to leave their food alone
Lmao you really don’t have a clue. If you beat and abuse an animal , they will change their behavior. Your just playing word games. We are also talking about one of the smartest living creatures on this Earth outside of Humans. Something might be happening that is changing the behavior of the animal in that part of the world.
I know thats seems weired but nobody knows why that happens for two years now. Idea: could it be that some orcas were trained to attack small vessels? (See "the swarm" by Frank Schätzing) Maybe to get rid of boats some people didn't want to reach the northern part of the med-sea? The priming or something else went wrong and now they attack sailboats??
Actually a diver who had been diving with this specific pod for 7 years offered his thoughts about what's going on. He noticed when he dove with them many scars, and somebody had harpooned one of the orcas with the spear still sticking out of him. He believes what the orcas are doing is a protest. They are not hunting, they are not interested in harming humans, but they want to sink the boats and have already sunk boats this pod.
Here we go. 200+ attacks on that coast. More than 50 disabled boats. Episodes lasting up to 3 hours And you don’t think it looked like an attack. Experts say they’re showing hunting pattern behaviour but you don’t think so.
There is a reason for this behavior. We humans just don’t know what it is yet. Perhaps their pod lost their matriarch and thus they weren’t taught the right skills and behaviors.
Or just a group of juveniles creating havoc (like in other mammal species 😉). They seem to be fearless because they have not been threatened or scared by any of these humans. Young males leave the pod and may group for some time with other pods. Females tend to stay with the matriarch's pod, but there are reports of females separating from their pods and going solo or join other pods.These youngsters may have been 'flipped' out by their matriarchs for their abnormal behaviour.
@@cimota72 lets hope not. They are a protected species in the area. The advise to small sailling boats is to stop all movement and not interact with them. They will get bored and move along. I have not seen any papers that id this or these groups or their ages, males or females... From the videos we see that they are young. The Wikipedia page says that 3 females have been identified by the tone of their darker skin but that does not seem too reliable. In one recent video in Gibraltar we see a big fin, possibly a male, also young. This is a new behaviour from a creative young orca that is being taught to other young orcas.
@@cimota72 Orcas have only once attacked a person. And that person was bitten and released. This was a case of mistaken identity when in among seals after surfing. Other than that 1 bite, there are no attacks on man outside of captivity.
I would suggest tagging them and following their movements and behaviour, alerting ships and boats of their position. There seems to be a leader or two in this "orcagang". They have not faced any violent response to their shenanigans, hence boats and humans pose no threat, and that is why they carry on. The tagging action may also help keep them away from boats as it can be a stressful event.
I don't know. Untill now they did not fully attack. You know they are able to sink the boat's if they want. I would not provecate them. It's their invirement and they know it.
Well it's something to do with tuna fisherman and it's only located to the orcas in this area. Maybe a tuna fisherman speared one for taking fish from there nets which orcas have always done it's there taxing of the sea only fair considering it's there ocean. Orcas can easily sink these boats if they wanted but it's suggesting that they have had a bad experience with these types of boats we have done something to annoy them and they have a great memory. Tagging them may make them lash out and start sinking boats or even attacking anyone in the ocean and we need orcas In the oceans they are top of the food chain along with sharks.
Yes that's a very good idea with tagging them. Maybe somebody could found out what happened to them and gain their trust again. If they would really be aggressive they would sink the vessel's. I think the orcas just want to make a point, but we don't understand them. Maybe that would help us know which pod, where they are and so on. 👍👍
There have been a couple of motor board interactions but none disabled. Even then the interaction ratio is 50:1. And motorboats are much more likely to be fishermen.
An opportunity for someone to make loud speakers and orca-repellent audio. I bet there is some noise they don't like that is not too harmful, compared to a firecracker or a cattle prod.
The prevailing theory is that they're a young pod, having lost an adult, is trying to cope. And targeting things that look "fun" as hunting practice toys. Sailing yachts under 50' are slow enough, light enough, easily damaged to make this a toy. And then like a cat being bored of a ball of wool, they let it go after they've played.
@@cimota72 4hrs of playing? Woah... I dont know anything about boating but you all must of been horrified and shocked? Was this the first incident you know of? Im scared of the ocean- I know that there is some animals in the ocean that we all arent aware of- But ive always said that if i saw orcas in the water i would get in- I just know that they would protect me and I feel a strong bond with them energetically.
@@Msenlightened1 they only bothered us for 30 minutes and then came back for another 10. I know folks who got 2.5 hours of this They’ve damaged more than 50 boats. Check out orcaiberica.org We were the last boat hit in October. But there have been more in November.
Spooky, definitely an experience to remember, a very costly memory. Is it just one pod that is responsible for the attacks? I've kayaked with the residents here in the Salish sea of Washington, they are so use to boats they could really care less it seems, but I still have a healthy respect for what they could do to me if they wanted. I wouldn't feel too comfy in the water with that group though. For people who think they have never attacked a human in the wild, ask Hans Kretschmer about being sown back together and relearning to walk after being attacked surfing. Thankfully it realized he wasn't a seal before finishing the job.
Well Orcas here surf with us here in Australia and New Zealand we and Orcas get along just fine. It must be a northern hemisphere thing Orcas can sense fear in a human and calmness. We have plenty of calm DOWNUNDER towards Gods beautiful Orcas and they reciprocate
@@aussiedownunder4186 aussie surfers aren't exactly known around the world for their calm demeaner. piss off kook, with your passive agressive bullshit. Way to victim shame by the way. Is that how you get your rocks off son?
It's really spooky that it is one pod. I know a few accidents happened, but that one pod always on the same place is attacking one boat after another since the first lockdown is almost unbelievable, but sadly it's true. I hope making noise will keep them away, but they are not called killer whales for no reason. Something must have happened to that pod and I whish the people would come out with the information so that other people can be save. They are not doing this without a reason (the orca's)
2:10 you can see the orca swimming sideways and upside down. It means they were playing, perhaps a bit too rough. You did say the orcas were young. You'd know if it was an attack from all the water leaking through the hull. There's another video of a sail boat where the occupants claimed orcas were attacking. it got massively down voted because the orcas were all swimming sideways and upside-down.
They were definitely play-hunting. The older ones helping the young ones. I have my own theories but when a fox tears apart a henhouse, the chickens feel attacked. Plus they sunk a sailboat a couple of weeks back. I don't begrudge them their hunting behaviours. I do know that the outcome of this is likely to be their destruction.
Something is Not Right???? I've been in the water unintentionally many times + sometimes because I wanted to I've never been threatened or personally afraid by them & they could've taken me anytime also with big males aka bulls nothing but gentle curiousty & yes a couple of times looking them in the eye or more direct eye to eye one I had the pleasure of running my hand along her side
I can understand orcas getting angry about the racket big oil tankers and large military ships make, but you're a sailboat -- they don't get much quieter than a sailboat!I wonder if this was a gang of teenage troublemakers out of West Side Story?
Personally I think you hit the nail on the head. They’re teenagers who found a breakable toy. They’re displaying hunting and trophy behaviour. They attack a boat until it goes “dead” and then they move on for another target.
@@cimota72 I thought I saw them passing around a six-pack they boosted from a convenience store... and didn't that big one have a pack of Marlboro Reds tucked under his left front fin? Not going to be easy lighting up when they're under water, though.
@@cimota72 what is wrong with you why do you have such a hate for orcas. You know it's there ocean not ours. Just because they attacked your boat you should be thanking them they didn't take the boat out completely then eat you they would have no issues doing so. We have killed hundreds and hundreds of orcas and it's likely something we have done to help trigger this behaviour. Because otherwise it would of happened at some point before a couple years ago. You sound like an asshole anyway so I'm glad you had your boat damaged. It's a shame your boat was sitting in my Cornish county for so long. With your sort of attitude saying we will hurt them if they carry on. No only idiots will do that we have hurt enough of them in the past I'm glad they are getting some revenge on dicks like you KARMA.
Orcas routinely murder anything they come in contact with, for fun -- they don't need something "really bad" to motivate them. The only reason they historically never attack humans is because we are even better at killing whales than they are, and they know better than to mess with us.
I thought I had seen one that was belly up sticking halfway under and halfway straight out the back of the boat and you could see it flipping its tail up and down in the water while it pushed the yatch
Tagging individuals, and attempting to take samples, might have become a breeding haven in area, or slightly further out, youngs seem to regular in videos, I wonder how close to shore they are willing to go?
Seems to be the same three that got us in the bay of Cadiz back in June when on a trip from the UK to the Mediterranean . Two large one small. If it is the same group and given the number of Orcas in the area during the Tuna season which do not seem to be interested in eating rudders, does it not make sense to try and catch them and relocate them?
@@williambell3893 was thinking exactly the same and tbh… just because it’s not in our convenience we should relocate them? It’s their natural habitat not ours so why should we relocate them? We could just avoid that area and let them be…
@@sc29607 yep. however I would find it very amusing to watch a video of someone "relocating " an orca just for them to get back to where they started from and have the orca already there waiting on them.
@@williambell3893 so true lol and what people sometimes forget is that you mostly only see a third or quarter of the pod, so relocating 12-16 orcas would be not an easy thing though…
@@sc29607 And they are living in the ocean since Mill of years, WE are the newbies. I hate that human arrogance. We have no right to do anything to them, it's their home and as I said before I would not provecate them. If they want they could sink these boats and they know it. They are as smart as humans if not smarter, they only think different.
My idea would be to have a way to fully pull up (or in, like up in the belly) the rudder and propellers the moment the first attack comes. And also maybe let out a harmless scent, or "ink", to repel or disorient them briefly.
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I still don’t get the point why people still sail out there. The fact of the “attacks” is known since almost two years now. The authorities gave warnings out that boats smaller then 35 ft should completely avoid the Gulf of Biscaya / Strait of Gibraltar and I still see these videos coming up. Even if my boat would be based there I would find a way to transfer it to another area and there are ways to do so without compromising the pod of orcas, the way might be longer (is longer) but maybe more safe and even cheaper (if I take the repairs and maybe rescues in account).
If you lived and sailed on the mid Portuguese coast, you're basically saying move your boat to North Brittany, the Canaries, or the Med. Thats not really practical and probably totally unaffordable for the majority of boat owners. So to meet your suggestion, there are two options, keep your boat and no longer sail at a cost of approx 3 k a year in moorings, or sell your boat. If 90% of every 10-15 m sailboat between the North Spanish coast and Gib came on the market, they clearly would not all sell due to market saturation, and the ones that did would then be in exactly the same position to meet your suggestion. Thats why.
@@cimota72 Yes. Would their behavior change if they learnt that it is dangerous and painful attacking boats? At the moment that's fun for them. A lot of fun without any risk. Any animal learns immediately to stay away where it is dangerous. They are not stupid.
Quite Odd, wondering if their fish supply has been seriously diminished and their letting us know, to stop overfishing or the new 5G and added chemical pollution has affected them in their habitat.
Matt Johnson, you keep saying that they can't reason because they are animals, so what are humans? Fishermen harmed them in some way, the number of tuna is reduced & so the Fishermen can't afford to lose any, but the Orcas are habituated to eating tuna & the easy way to get it is from the nets. Btw the tuna wouldn't be so reduced if it weren't for overfishing, if you think that the culture & language of the Orcas couldn't have conveyed that, over the centuries, that's your blindness. A pod without an adult, who may have been killed in front of the youngsters, just trying to hurt us. Pay back.
@@dawndriskill9588 then they’re dumber than you think. If they’re affected by fishermen why aren’t the attacking fishing boats? They’re attacking sailing boats. Massive difference in shape.
@@cimota72 Haha, no. They are smarter. Who's doing all the talking? Who posted the video, for everyone to see? The fishermen are dangerous & they know it, but they are angry, scared & frustrated & they have no adult supervision. I know that you agree with the "no adult supervision" part & why you can't/won't make the next step is beyond all intelligent reason, or that's what the fish say. Hahahaha! You are foolish.
i saw a doco on a french guy that films orcas. Apparently, orcas dont attack people even while feeding. I also watched a tiktok vid by a couple of russian kayakers who bump into a pod of orcas that get close to the kayakers and then get their heads out of the water to see the humans. if those orcas had "pushed" the kayaks like the orcas in this video, the would had tipped them both or even break them.
in captivity is totally predictable and i'd say acceptable since i'm against forcible captivity for commercial exploit. That guy Hans Kretschmer case was in 1972 and no other case has been reported. But personally, i'd dare to jump into the water. Would be a great memory and a great way to leave this planet.
they are intelligent animals(closely related to dogs, yes, they once had four legs). next time give them something else to play with.. bring a beach ball or an old boogey board, tied to the end of the boat, keep them busy with that instead of the rudder. next time bring a fake rudder and trail that behind the actual rudder.
Killer whales are not closely related to dogs. Zebras and pangolins are more closely related to dogs than whales are. The whale's closest living relative is actually the hippo. Although that's still a pretty distant relation.
Mount a steel spiked roller on the trailing edge of your rudder attached with a streamlined plate at the top and bottom edge of the rudder. Make the mount simple so that two large class 8 bolts hold the roller in place and are easy to remove when not sailing in this pod's territory. If the mounting plates on the top and bottom edge of your rudder are streamlined enough, there will be very little drag produced when the spiked roller is not mounted.
And people on the internet are stupidly naive saying "orcas don't never attack humans in the wild " 🤣😂🤣 that's like saying hey let's walk up on that silver back gorilla with really sharp fangs and pet him....
Orca's are generally respectful of humans in the ocean, in boats or otherwise. If they act aggressively, well humans gave them a reason to be so, maybe not this boat in particular but maybe retaliation for an incident with another boat. Humans are land mammals, Orcas are marine mammals...just an FYI.
Orcas are opportunistic hunters and it’s plain this pod (and maybe others) are in a confused state. Don’t assign them human motivations like “respect”. If they’re hungry, they’ll eat you. And really? Thank goodness you informed me they are marine mammals. Seems my biology degree was wasted.
Well good, I ll wait for your video of an Orca eating/attacking a human in the WILD because while I'm sure it's happened, I ve never seen a video of an Orca eating/attacking a human in the WILD, ever. At Sea World after years of human abuse towards Orcas, yes. Never seem an Orca attack on humans in the wild. Very nice you have a degree in biology, working where? Did you do your thesis on Orcas? I'd love to see it. I guess you didn't get a degree in sarcasm because my statement was made for people acting so stupidly appalled at the dangers of the oceans. Like if people don't like it...stay on LAND with the other LAND mammals. If you have your degree in biology than you must know that humans are the ocean"s worst enemy. But hey, I'm preaching to the Choir, right?
@@tis400 There’s sworn testimony. It’s well documented. Look it up, dickwad. It’s mentioned in the comments on this video. Just to make it easy. Now fuck off to your armchair and find something else to be outraged about.
Here we go, another armchair expert who doesn’t think that being thrown around for 30 minutes like a rag doll by 4 wild animals who outweigh you 100 times over is an attack.
I would probably try and source some M-80s. They are waterproof, not terribly destructive, but will dip below the service and cause a shockwave that will definitely deter. The Orca is my favorite animal, but I’m not going to be disabled and targeted at-sea.
@@cimota72 By the very definition, absolutely. The Orca is a far superior predator in its element. I assume you prefer the route of being helpless and hoping someone will come to your aid if it gets bad enough. Makes perfect sense really. Sheep.
@@cimota72 I have spent 21yrs working in underwater acoustics, including applying marine mammal mitigation. An M80 will produce approximately 165dB of energy into the air. In a denser medium such as water and at such close proximity, the experience would be more than irritating to a marine mammal. Next time one is gnawing on your rudder, put a couple in and see if they just sigh and look at you.
@@bfishlike8307 of course you have. And you’d just piss them off. People who mess with explosives and guns should stay out of civilised waters. I’d rather have orcas.
Just get your signal pistol and shoot them instead of watching them destroying your boat. There is another video out there where they sink a yacht (14 m ?). What's wrong with you? Yes, they are protected, but obeying the law over your and your family's life?
@@cimota72 I do not know. But a shot with signal ammunition within short range directly to the target is a very heavy and extremely brutal blow. It enters the body and then burns a huge hole inside. What are the options? Doing nothing like the rabbit facing the snake? I would definitely do it. And I bet, there are some folks who did it already. They will not publish it here - of course not.
Are you kidding 3/4 of the world is a ocean, they are being destructive brats, they do that to my boat and they will get a Seal Bomb dropped on their heads.
@@tree4408 I know that's bad, but I'm 99% sure they aren't 'fighting for space' because they believe humans are taking everything. They may be intelligent creatures, but I assure you, they aren't that intelligent. Even 99% of humans don't even know what's going on with that and we're 'supposed' to be the most intelligent creature in existence, why would you even think for even a second that Orcas would know?
@@MasterSethern My dear Master Sethern, for the same reason Orcas know were to find food and follow seasonal currents. Animals are the occupants on Earth not destroying their own habitat for money.
@@MrGOOGREEN orcaIberico calls it an “interaction”. Everyone else calls it an attack. You weren’t there. You didn’t experience it. Or the aftermath. So piss off.
@@cimota72 yes it was interaktion. And who is " everyone"? Just relax. Its over. You are save. Go to sleep. No i wasnt there, but i have in my life some experience with orcas. So dont be stupid and silly. Just block me if you dont like my comments. No problem. I am just try to tell you something but stupid and scared people never learn. So...be save🙃🙃🙃( anger management)
@@MrGOOGREEN Why do I need to block you? Why don’t you just go away? The maritime police say attack. The insurance company says attack. The fishing boats and sailors say attack. But you, who have no idea what you’re talking about, says it’s not an attack. Shove off.
Or, as was implied, humans in the water. Not necessarily in a boat, at all. As i think they are smarter than some humans Matt. My info came direct from a sailor friend, living in Gib, and other`s sailing from Langstone harbour. !!!
The mamas are much bigger than any of the four Orcas that were present. These are juveniles. Two older ones supervising the hunting practice of the two very small ones (the smaller ones were around the same size as dolphins). Theory remains that these are coping with the loss of a mama.
Why are people shaking their heads in disbelief that an apex predator has attacked a yacht ? Has no one ever seen them attack a chunk of floating ice because there was a seal resting on it ?. End of the day, it’s a very large wild animal that does not have respect for humans at all.
No different than walking in the woods, respect their world. Some humans think we are superior, but nature will remind those who make the choice to venture into their world.
I think it is just playing of this beautiful animals. I guess if sailors not scared this animals from this behavior in 10 years no sailing boat is save every where orcas are living. Orca's do migrate so do this problem.
They’ve been damaging boats now for 2 years. Their migratory pattern just means a wider geography of interactions. Luckily it’s a small number of animals and animals in other regions are not doing this.
Maybe try restocking their food .. if blue fin tuna were released in numbers to replenish the area .. the Orcas might be busy eating and leave rutters alone.
You'd think these super smart marine mammals would attack fishing boats and then not sailing boats. But you're right, I'll throw overboard the half million Bluefin tuna I'd been saving for a rainy day.
Ну где они напали? Так, "зубы точили" об руль. В конце концов рабочее решение - ткнуть шестом в бок - кожа у них сверхчувствительная, действует отлично. Или гидрофон с каким-то невыносимым звуком (песни Киркорова 😅).
Что касается меня, двое держали нас в неуравновешенном состоянии, а еще двое теряли руль направления. теперь сообщает, что их 8. Думать, что вы можете разумно атаковать этих существ с лодки, неразумно.
@@cimota72 ну длинный шест как раз используют дрессировщики в океанариуме. Так что способ проверенный. Во вторых - шест деревянный, без острия. Цель - отбить желание хулиганить, а не ранить кита. Как выпороть ребёнка ремнём.
@@cimota72 too slippery and no rudders in light colors to have fun, as in total destruction, with😉. I think they will grow out of this behaviour as they mature and find pods to follow. But the two larger ones do require vigilance.
Payback for SeaWorld...
And I’d say fair enough.
Probably right ..
Yes!!!
But why now??? It started after the first lockdown, always in the same place and always the same pod. In the beginning there where adult orcas with theittle ones and obviously they showed them what to do. If it would be everywhere, I would say Yes they hate us and have very good reason's for it. But something must had happened there. I whish somebody would come out and speak before something really bad happens and humans get hurt.
@@horse-lover68 No, I don't think they hate us. I think they see (yachts) as a toy. As soon as we go dead in the water, they piss off.
I cannot help but be in awe of their sheer strength. I mean, that orca was pushing your boat along at s pretty good clip, as if it was simply a toy!!
And these are juveniles.
@@cimota72 Good point!
Hunting practice only hope you guys are safe...did you see the push by the younger one wow..thanks for sharing
Clearly you owe these orca money! Moral of the story is, don't borrow money from orca you don't know and trust!
Is any group doing a serious study, collecting all information from those yachts, bottom color and type anti fouling, cat or mono, under sail or power, etc ? With sufficient data, we may see a correlation.
Yes. Orcaiberica are collecting data. But honestly it’s not about protecting sailors.
@@cimota72 Hopefully it's about protecting both.
@@FtLMale1 It appears that the scientists are not publicly discussing the killing and harassing of orcas by tuna fishermen, but then no fishermen are confessing to killing and harassing orcas. They must be cautious, because the wrong measure could result in adult orcas ramming and sinking the hulls of plastic sailing yachts. Orcas can easily do this to many. family cruising yachts.
Japanese whalers could collect a few hundred for scientific study in those waters
@@cimota72 protecting sailors from what? How many injuries or deaths have these particular Orcas caused? Zero? Cry me river. If you sail in the ocean you will get wet. Harden up soft touch.
Keep seal bombs on board and when they start hitting the boat drop one or two in, it will scare them away without hurting them, it's about the best option and could save your boat or even your life.
Where do you get these 'bombs' in the UK
you need a firearms licence to buy them
Your life theirs no record of orca attacking & killing a human in the wild you plum they were just playing
@@drm6089 So if we use your logic, Orcas will never change their behavior for any reason which I find unlikely for any intelligent being. Case in point, if they have never made it a habit of attacking sail boats in the past, then obviously they won't start attacking sailboats now. Hmmm so it must not be happening. Living beings do in fact change their behavior. Also, if they sink a boat or run it into the rocks, the people could in fact die from drowning or sharks. The best option is to quit ignoring the issue and find a safe deterrent to stop the behavior from being taught and passed down to the newer generation of Orcas.
1.)You can always get very loud firecrackers ( fireworks suppliers ).... that would do the job.
2.)How about electric cattle fence - give them a good rattle - I guarantee you they'll swim away faster than they came......
3.) Harpoon or mount knife on the longest pole on the boat - after few get stabbed - they will go away....
Doing nothing is the most stupid thing you can do.
How often do orcas attack on sailing ships?
Over 200 interactions in the last couple of years. In the repair place we are in, there are 3 damaged boats. The last place. 4
This is new behavior.
Too
From the Orca viewpoint, boats come out regularly to be dismantled. Why else would the boat travel out, then shut off engines and drift? Then wait patiently for the dismantle? The only way this will stop is if the dismantle of boats is discouraged.
Such odd behaviour. They look like a team with a job of work to do. "Come on, lads. You push here, and I'll rip off this section. Got to get the job done." They're really intense, concentrating hard on doing a thorough job. I guess they've had a lot of practice by now. It's the guy swimming off triumphantly with a big bit of rudder in his bake that got me.
I'd love to know what they think they're achieving.
My impression was that the two older ones were supervising the two younger ones in their work. And when it looked like we were getting away, the older ones would ram the boat to keep us "stunned". We must have looked like large prey.
@@cimota72 it’s scary, the raw power of these creatures. I’m used to horses, and if a horse decides to be a git it can do some serious damage but luckily they rarely do. To see creatures an order of magnitude more powerful than a horse throwing their weight around is terrifying. And this is their medium, not ours.
Survival of the fittest...is what they are thinking.
@@SkibereenWhistler We still don't know what are they doing and what for.
But all until the time. If these orcas become too brazen, humans will find some way to deal with it.
@Mike Jones “very intelligent” means little. Collies are very intelligent. Squid are very intelligent.
Your example is a Pavlovian response.
It doesn't matter. You are in their domain. Continue to venture there at your own risk.
They’ll get shot. Not my problem.
@@cimota72 Go ahead, try it. :) If We dont hear from You ,, not our problem. That was only a message my friend, hope U are not stupid enough to kill the mesanger. If they wanted U gone :) You will be gone. Best.Val
Wonderful video, please what's name this photography camera in this video??
One word: Bangstick. It will not take many to reorganize hierarchy.
Orcas dont like human flesh lmao
Plenty of evidence to suggest the contrary.
It's there ocean we are the visitors we always think we are in control.
ultimately we are. we allow them to live.
Oh please
"their"
That was not aggressive behavior... If the Orca were angry, trust me, you'd know about it... They are extremely powerful, and a ruder nudge, or nibble is not aggressive. These Orca are playing with the bendy thing that makes a noise when you bump it... I am not trying to say, that the experience for us mere humans, isn't scary and even frightening, however the Orca are just having fun in an otherwise boring desolate ocean...
Yeah, like a fox tearing chickens apart. Or a cat toying with a mouse. Not aggressive. Just playing.
"Avoiding this coast" is not an option for me, as I have my boat based here. So, we have to live with it it seems.
I heard that a crew let the engine run but gowing backwards (slowly) which kind of helped them, as it would not allow the animals going at the rudder.
Also another boat here distracted them with their dinghy off the back. I was thinking maybe a couple of brightly coloured fenders on tethers might distract them.
@@cimota72 I tried the fender trick. It didn't really work. Neither did the boat hook. All they want is the rudder.
I believe the coast guards recommend to pour 1 l of diesel from the transom, that seems to repel them.
The worrying thing here is that the troublemaker teens seem to teach their ways to the younger.
@@philsmith9807 that’s the impression I got. The two older were supervising.
@@philsmith9807 Jesus, I know it’s not a lot but pouring diesel into the ocean sounds awful
@@archangel6666 it's that or risk stranding or sinking
How far was you from the shore. And where was the ground?
Bloody Rubbish! Orcas are curious and friendly especially when they are young. You people just don’t understand This mammal or it’s character. They have NEVER harmed a human being. We swim with them in New Zealand and they are fully grown adults. They were playing with your boat. Silly people!!!!!
Yeah, they’ve damaged 50 boats.
I have seen plenty of orca attacking people, so don't talk crap, 5 second of youtube searching proves you are way out on you lies.
@@ntal5859 Shows what you know. Scientists studying them agree with me.
cringe
You are 100% correct, most if these ppl have no idea what they are talking about.
Is the east coast of Portugal still ok?
Check OrcaIberico
No adults. Since we don't see this behavior in full pods, I wonder where the adults are. Are these kids just out on their own by choice and go home when they are ready to? Have they been kicked out? Did the adults meet a catastrophe? I know elephant bulls at a certain age must leave their mother's herd. They form small groups which can start doing odd things in an Africa with too few bull elephants of mature age. It is the older bulls that look out for the younger bulls, until they adapt and go off on their own. Now I know the full orca pod has both bulls and cows but is there a similar behavior where the lack of adults leaves young orcas to figure things out for themselves?
One theory is that this pod lost it's guiding adults.
@@cimota72
That is sad. But if they have no adults, this is a serious problem. If they continue this behavior as they grow, smaller vessels will be in even more trouble.
@@cimota72
What they did to save a region that had lost all its adult bulls, was they captured something like 10 bulls and introduced them. I don't think that has much chance with orcas, but if it could work it would be worth the effort. The adult bulls put a stop to the youngster's misbehavior and reinstalled peace to the region. They had been bullying the rhinos and hippos!
Bull elephants, did I say that?
@@julieenslow5915
I heard about that , young teenager elephants killing and raping rhinos and Hippos, without an adult putting a stop to their behavior
A yacht sunk recently from an Orca encounter. I presume the rudder stock got damaged badly enough to swamp the boat. I havesailed from Biscay to the med a couple of times, fortunately no Orca sightings. At seventy now I doubt I will be down that way again, just as well I was in a Contessa 26.
That’s the second yacht sunk. I think they’re getting more aggressive.
And never say never. If you’re going to survive the seas, there’s no better than a Contessa 26.
@@cimota72 A Halberg Rassy 57 would do it. It would need a lottery win though.
@@ianscott3180 I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you.
I doubt I’ll sail those waters again. I’m getting used to good weather.
Will be interesting to see how this area orca yacht relationships develop. I hope science and love and respect of the Orca and it’s habitat prevail.
Either they grow out of it or they’ll be killed.
Reinforce and stiffen up the hulls. I also believe there is a certain frequency that drives them off too. We could look into that tech for boats and surfers. Just a small transmitter that pushes off sharks and orca.
Unfortunately Orcas that attack boats have to be destroyed like a dog that bites humans on purpose!
@@thepeacefulsavageshow777 Shark Shield type technology should work
My concern is for both the Orca and the humans ! If you had a captain that wasn't worth his salt yet he may panicked and ended up in the water with them ? Then what ?
I wonder if buckshot would make them go away?
There has to be an actual reason that they randomly started attacking boats. They don't hurt humans in the wild, I think they are starving and telling us to leave their food alone
Reasons are for reasoning creatures. They’re animals.
Lmao you really don’t have a clue. If you beat and abuse an animal , they will change their behavior. Your just playing word games. We are also talking about one of the smartest living creatures on this Earth outside of Humans. Something might be happening that is changing the behavior of the animal in that part of the world.
@@sococomfort22s34 who beat and abused it? These are from the wild. No human interaction other than that they seek out. Idiot.
@@sococomfort22s34 Dito -cant be a coincidence that these kind of attacks just happens there!
@@cimota72 perfect response LMAO
Were they under sail with the motor off or were they motoring?
I know thats seems weired but nobody knows why that happens for two years now. Idea: could it be that some orcas were trained to attack small vessels? (See "the swarm" by Frank Schätzing) Maybe to get rid of boats some people didn't want to reach the northern part of the med-sea? The priming or something else went wrong and now they attack sailboats??
Actually a diver who had been diving with this specific pod for 7 years offered his thoughts about what's going on. He noticed when he dove with them many scars, and somebody had harpooned one of the orcas with the spear still sticking out of him. He believes what the orcas are doing is a protest. They are not hunting, they are not interested in harming humans, but they want to sink the boats and have already sunk boats this pod.
This is the first thing that came to my mind. maybe they had couple of bad experiences and now are alert on boats
The movie with Richard Harris, was an absolute great learning process,
Didn't kook much like an attack?
Here we go. 200+ attacks on that coast. More than 50 disabled boats. Episodes lasting up to 3 hours And you don’t think it looked like an attack.
Experts say they’re showing hunting pattern behaviour but you don’t think so.
You literally see the whale biting off the rudder of the boat. What did it look like to you?
What about Portugal's east coast? Any sign of trouble there?
The only "East Coast" it has is the Guadiana River. While the river may be safe, the Algarve outside of the river itself is prime hunting ground.
There is a reason for this behavior. We humans just don’t know what it is yet. Perhaps their pod lost their matriarch and thus they weren’t taught the right skills and behaviors.
Or just a group of juveniles creating havoc (like in other mammal species 😉). They seem to be fearless because they have not been threatened or scared by any of these humans. Young males leave the pod and may group for some time with other pods. Females tend to stay with the matriarch's pod, but there are reports of females separating from their pods and going solo or join other pods.These youngsters may have been 'flipped' out by their matriarchs for their abnormal behaviour.
I think it’s them trying to learn. But they’re gonna get themselves killed.
@@cimota72 lets hope not. They are a protected species in the area. The advise to small sailling boats is to stop all movement and not interact with them. They will get bored and move along. I have not seen any papers that id this or these groups or their ages, males or females...
From the videos we see that they are young. The Wikipedia page says that 3 females have been identified by the tone of their darker skin but that does not seem too reliable. In one recent video in Gibraltar we see a big fin, possibly a male, also young. This is a new behaviour from a creative young orca that is being taught to other young orcas.
@@sternamc919sterna3 stopping movement still means damage, insurance claims and risk to life.
@@cimota72 Orcas have only once attacked a person. And that person was bitten and released. This was a case of mistaken identity when in among seals after surfing. Other than that 1 bite, there are no attacks on man outside of captivity.
Bro, these are not “attacks”. It’s juvenile orca practicing hunting. it’s probably annoying as. But don’t make it out to be something it’s not.
“Bro”,
If I come over to your house and fuck up $20000 of stuff with you unable to stop me, it’s just me practicing hunting ok?
Ass
@@cimota72 you do realize it their house to begin with don’t you? One can always sail around the area.
@@TheLonguich it’s my home too.
Go on then, explain how you “sail around” the North West Atlantic.
@@cimota72 no it’s not. You’re visiting.
@@TheLonguich Er, fuck off. I live on the sea. But send me your address and I’ll come over and fuck up some shit as you suggest for “practice”.
I would suggest tagging them and following their movements and behaviour, alerting ships and boats of their position. There seems to be a leader or two in this "orcagang". They have not faced any violent response to their shenanigans, hence boats and humans pose no threat, and that is why they carry on. The tagging action may also help keep them away from boats as it can be a stressful event.
I don't know. Untill now they did not fully attack. You know they are able to sink the boat's if they want. I would not provecate them. It's their invirement and they know it.
Well it's something to do with tuna fisherman and it's only located to the orcas in this area. Maybe a tuna fisherman speared one for taking fish from there nets which orcas have always done it's there taxing of the sea only fair considering it's there ocean. Orcas can easily sink these boats if they wanted but it's suggesting that they have had a bad experience with these types of boats we have done something to annoy them and they have a great memory. Tagging them may make them lash out and start sinking boats or even attacking anyone in the ocean and we need orcas In the oceans they are top of the food chain along with sharks.
@@mattsavage9960 👍👍💜💜
we're destroying their home, I'd be a little bit crabby too
Yes that's a very good idea with tagging them. Maybe somebody could found out what happened to them and gain their trust again. If they would really be aggressive they would sink the vessel's. I think the orcas just want to make a point, but we don't understand them. Maybe that would help us know which pod, where they are and so on. 👍👍
Is it just sail boats that are being attacked or have they attacked motor boats too?
There have been a couple of motor board interactions but none disabled. Even then the interaction ratio is 50:1. And motorboats are much more likely to be fishermen.
An opportunity for someone to make loud speakers and orca-repellent audio. I bet there is some noise they don't like that is not too harmful, compared to a firecracker or a cattle prod.
Just don't play "baby shark" - that might attract them
@@nate6692 maybe they dislike nickelback
Why do you think this happened?
The prevailing theory is that they're a young pod, having lost an adult, is trying to cope. And targeting things that look "fun" as hunting practice toys. Sailing yachts under 50' are slow enough, light enough, easily damaged to make this a toy. And then like a cat being bored of a ball of wool, they let it go after they've played.
@@cimota72 4hrs of playing? Woah... I dont know anything about boating but you all must of been horrified and shocked? Was this the first incident you know of? Im scared of the ocean- I know that there is some animals in the ocean that we all arent aware of- But ive always said that if i saw orcas in the water i would get in- I just know that they would protect me and I feel a strong bond with them energetically.
@@Msenlightened1 they only bothered us for 30 minutes and then came back for another 10. I know folks who got 2.5 hours of this
They’ve damaged more than 50 boats.
Check out orcaiberica.org
We were the last boat hit in October. But there have been more in November.
@@cimota72Woah..thanks i will check them out!
Spooky, definitely an experience to remember, a very costly memory. Is it just one pod that is responsible for the attacks? I've kayaked with the residents here in the Salish sea of Washington, they are so use to boats they could really care less it seems, but I still have a healthy respect for what they could do to me if they wanted. I wouldn't feel too comfy in the water with that group though. For people who think they have never attacked a human in the wild, ask Hans Kretschmer about being sown back together and relearning to walk after being attacked surfing. Thankfully it realized he wasn't a seal before finishing the job.
Well Orcas here surf with us here in Australia and New Zealand we and Orcas get along just fine. It must be a northern hemisphere thing Orcas can sense fear in a human and calmness. We have plenty of calm DOWNUNDER towards Gods beautiful Orcas and they reciprocate
@@aussiedownunder4186 veiled insult? common man don't need for that that kinda nonsense
@@aussiedownunder4186 aussie surfers aren't exactly known around the world for their calm demeaner. piss off kook, with your passive agressive bullshit. Way to victim shame by the way. Is that how you get your rocks off son?
It's really spooky that it is one pod. I know a few accidents happened, but that one pod always on the same place is attacking one boat after another since the first lockdown is almost unbelievable, but sadly it's true. I hope making noise will keep them away, but they are not called killer whales for no reason. Something must have happened to that pod and I whish the people would come out with the information so that other people can be save. They are not doing this without a reason (the orca's)
@@horse-lover68 Yeah definitely, very strange behavior, must be a reason. Hopefully a working solution is found. Dangerous situation.
Cape Finesterre -Portugal its interesting that there these attacks happend more and more in this area and the young ones learning to do so well......
2:10 you can see the orca swimming sideways and upside down. It means they were playing, perhaps a bit too rough. You did say the orcas were young. You'd know if it was an attack from all the water leaking through the hull. There's another video of a sail boat where the occupants claimed orcas were attacking. it got massively down voted because the orcas were all swimming sideways and upside-down.
They were definitely play-hunting. The older ones helping the young ones. I have my own theories but when a fox tears apart a henhouse, the chickens feel attacked. Plus they sunk a sailboat a couple of weeks back. I don't begrudge them their hunting behaviours. I do know that the outcome of this is likely to be their destruction.
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That's the day I became a permanent landlubber !
Something is Not Right???? I've been in the water unintentionally many times + sometimes because I wanted to I've never been threatened or personally afraid by them & they could've taken me anytime also with big males aka bulls nothing but gentle curiousty & yes a couple of times looking them in the eye or more direct eye to eye one I had the pleasure of running my hand along her side
Cool footage. Thanks for sharing.
I can understand orcas getting angry about the racket big oil tankers and large military ships make, but you're a sailboat -- they don't get much quieter than a sailboat!I wonder if this was a gang of teenage troublemakers out of West Side Story?
Personally I think you hit the nail on the head. They’re teenagers who found a breakable toy. They’re displaying hunting and trophy behaviour. They attack a boat until it goes “dead” and then they move on for another target.
@@cimota72 I thought I saw them passing around a six-pack they boosted from a convenience store... and didn't that big one have a pack of Marlboro Reds tucked under his left front fin? Not going to be easy lighting up when they're under water, though.
@@krisaaron5771 Kids today...
@@cimota72 what is wrong with you why do you have such a hate for orcas. You know it's there ocean not ours. Just because they attacked your boat you should be thanking them they didn't take the boat out completely then eat you they would have no issues doing so. We have killed hundreds and hundreds of orcas and it's likely something we have done to help trigger this behaviour. Because otherwise it would of happened at some point before a couple years ago. You sound like an asshole anyway so I'm glad you had your boat damaged. It's a shame your boat was sitting in my Cornish county for so long. With your sort of attitude saying we will hurt them if they carry on. No only idiots will do that we have hurt enough of them in the past I'm glad they are getting some revenge on dicks like you KARMA.
@@mattsavage9960
That time of the month huh?
They must be blaming /targeting boats for less fish ,, thinking boats are computation
I think that's giving them too much credit for intelligence.
Someone must have done something really bad to them in that area, they keep attacking boats there.
Probably fed up with the sewer pipes dumping 24/7 into their back yard
@@Cola64 That dumping might be Cat Nip to the Killer Whales
Marine experts are saying that it might be play rather than attack.
Learned behavior.
Orcas routinely murder anything they come in contact with, for fun -- they don't need something "really bad" to motivate them. The only reason they historically never attack humans is because we are even better at killing whales than they are, and they know better than to mess with us.
Mit Orcas ist nicht zu spaßen! Die sind super intelligent und super gefährlich!
They’re dumb animals. Get over it.
@@cimota72 They got more brain & more humanity than the most humans!
@@strandgirl1000
Well, that’s plainly not true. But thanks for playing.
@@cimota72 Well, that´s plainly true.
Wow ! None of those Orcas flipped over and showed off their bellies 😳
Your point being?
I’ve heard Orcas show their underside as a show of trust.
@@sococomfort22s34 I'm pro seaworld in the blackfish debate, but I'm pretty sure that is absolute horseshit lol
@@novoavern it’s true look it up
I thought I had seen one that was belly up sticking halfway under and halfway straight out the back of the boat and you could see it flipping its tail up and down in the water while it pushed the yatch
Tagging individuals, and attempting to take samples, might have become a breeding haven in area, or slightly further out, youngs seem to regular in videos, I wonder how close to shore they are willing to go?
I was less than 2miles from shore. Way behind the area advised. They're definitely targeting boats along a huge area
Carry depth charges
Well, when I was a kid I played with boats in the bathtub. I guess the ocean is their bathtub. ⛵️🛀
Start your engine! Forward and reverse.
Seems to be the same three that got us in the bay of Cadiz back in June when on a trip from the UK to the Mediterranean . Two large one small. If it is the same group and given the number of Orcas in the area during the Tuna season which do not seem to be interested in eating rudders, does it not make sense to try and catch them and relocate them?
considering they can circumnavigate the world...I doubt you could relocate an orca. best to just stay out of their way..
@@williambell3893 was thinking exactly the same and tbh… just because it’s not in our convenience we should relocate them? It’s their natural habitat not ours so why should we relocate them? We could just avoid that area and let them be…
@@sc29607 yep. however I would find it very amusing to watch a video of someone "relocating " an orca just for them to get back to where they started from and have the orca already there waiting on them.
@@williambell3893 so true lol and what people sometimes forget is that you mostly only see a third or quarter of the pod, so relocating 12-16 orcas would be not an easy thing though…
@@sc29607 And they are living in the ocean since Mill of years, WE are the newbies. I hate that human arrogance. We have no right to do anything to them, it's their home and as I said before I would not provecate them. If they want they could sink these boats and they know it. They are as smart as humans if not smarter, they only think different.
Attack🤣😂😭 What Joke!!! Buddy you will know when they attack for real…
Oh here we go. You weren’t there but you know better. Of course.
The most powerful, beautiful animal in the World
yep that's why you endangered it the minute you could get some profit out of it ... F O r3t4rd
My idea would be to have a way to fully pull up (or in, like up in the belly) the rudder and propellers the moment the first attack comes.
And also maybe let out a harmless scent, or "ink", to repel or disorient them briefly.
Great idea. But based on that expense there are other ideas
@@cimota72 not to mention it is risky in anything but calm seas
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I still don’t get the point why people still sail out there. The fact of the “attacks” is known since almost two years now. The authorities gave warnings out that boats smaller then 35 ft should completely avoid the Gulf of Biscaya / Strait of Gibraltar and I still see these videos coming up.
Even if my boat would be based there I would find a way to transfer it to another area and there are ways to do so without compromising the pod of orcas, the way might be longer (is longer) but maybe more safe and even cheaper (if I take the repairs and maybe rescues in account).
There’s no other way round.
If you lived and sailed on the mid Portuguese coast, you're basically saying move your boat to North Brittany, the Canaries, or the Med. Thats not really practical and probably totally unaffordable for the majority of boat owners. So to meet your suggestion, there are two options, keep your boat and no longer sail at a cost of approx 3 k a year in moorings, or sell your boat. If 90% of every 10-15 m sailboat between the North Spanish coast and Gib came on the market, they clearly would not all sell due to market saturation, and the ones that did would then be in exactly the same position to meet your suggestion. Thats why.
Wow stay safe 💙 I come from a family of seafarers and fishers. That's horrifying!
They're the wolves of the sea for sure
Dunno if you saw but they just sank another boat off the coast of Portugal.
I am living in the the West Indies. We have them on a daily base and we stay away from them.
In the meantime it is reported there are daily two attacks there on an average.
@@ralfsxm851 When I was in the region the police said they had 2-3 call-outs a day.
@@cimota72 Yes. Would their behavior change if they learnt that it is dangerous and painful attacking boats? At the moment that's fun for them. A lot of fun without any risk. Any animal learns immediately to stay away where it is dangerous. They are not stupid.
Quite Odd, wondering if their fish supply has been seriously diminished and their letting us know, to stop overfishing or the new 5G and added chemical pollution has affected them in their habitat.
New 5G. You're funny.
Don't be absurd. They're dumb animals. They're not making cave paintings or deriving Pi. Their intelligence is closer to a Chihuahua than a humans.
Matt Johnson, you keep saying that they can't reason because they are animals, so what are humans? Fishermen harmed them in some way, the number of tuna is reduced & so the Fishermen can't afford to lose any, but the Orcas are habituated to eating tuna & the easy way to get it is from the nets. Btw the tuna wouldn't be so reduced if it weren't for overfishing, if you think that the culture & language of the Orcas couldn't have conveyed that, over the centuries, that's your blindness. A pod without an adult, who may have been killed in front of the youngsters, just trying to hurt us. Pay back.
@@dawndriskill9588 then they’re dumber than you think. If they’re affected by fishermen why aren’t the attacking fishing boats? They’re attacking sailing boats. Massive difference in shape.
@@cimota72 Haha, no. They are smarter. Who's doing all the talking? Who posted the video, for everyone to see? The fishermen are dangerous & they know it, but they are angry, scared & frustrated & they have no adult supervision. I know that you agree with the "no adult supervision" part & why you can't/won't make the next step is beyond all intelligent reason, or that's what the fish say. Hahahaha! You are foolish.
would the orcas attack had the sailors jumped to the water?
Neither of the sailors aboard this boat wanted to test that theory.
i saw a doco on a french guy that films orcas. Apparently, orcas dont attack people even while feeding. I also watched a tiktok vid by a couple of russian kayakers who bump into a pod of orcas that get close to the kayakers and then get their heads out of the water to see the humans. if those orcas had "pushed" the kayaks like the orcas in this video, the would had tipped them both or even break them.
@@adrianclv8494 They have attacked humans in the wild. And they have killed humans in captivity. Hans Kretschmer needed over 100 stitches.
in captivity is totally predictable and i'd say acceptable since i'm against forcible captivity for commercial exploit. That guy Hans Kretschmer case was in 1972 and no other case has been reported. But personally, i'd dare to jump into the water. Would be a great memory and a great way to leave this planet.
@@adrianclv8494 Hans survived. We don’t know if other lone swimmers and surfers have keen killed.
they are intelligent animals(closely related to dogs, yes, they once had four legs). next time give them something else to play with.. bring a beach ball or an old boogey board, tied to the end of the boat, keep them busy with that instead of the rudder. next time bring a fake rudder and trail that behind the actual rudder.
One of the other commenters said that the ball trick doesn’t work.
Orcas are one of the few animals on earth that will torture other animals for fun before eating them.
Killer whales are not closely related to dogs. Zebras and pangolins are more closely related to dogs than whales are.
The whale's closest living relative is actually the hippo. Although that's still a pretty distant relation.
They never had legs. Evolution is an unscientific scam.
@@tonysmario817 You on of those.
Wheres the 30/06, few shots in the water mabye?
Mount a steel spiked roller on the trailing edge of your rudder attached with a streamlined plate at the top and bottom edge of the rudder. Make the mount simple so that two large class 8 bolts hold the roller in place and are easy to remove when not sailing in this pod's territory. If the mounting plates on the top and bottom edge of your rudder are streamlined enough, there will be very little drag produced when the spiked roller is not mounted.
What an assinine thing to say.
And people on the internet are stupidly naive saying "orcas don't never attack humans in the wild " 🤣😂🤣 that's like saying hey let's walk up on that silver back gorilla with really sharp fangs and pet him....
Orca's are generally respectful of humans in the ocean, in boats or otherwise. If they act aggressively, well humans gave them a reason to be so, maybe not this boat in particular but maybe retaliation for an incident with another boat. Humans are land mammals, Orcas are marine mammals...just an FYI.
Orcas are opportunistic hunters and it’s plain this pod (and maybe others) are in a confused state. Don’t assign them human motivations like “respect”. If they’re hungry, they’ll eat you.
And really? Thank goodness you informed me they are marine mammals. Seems my biology degree was wasted.
Well good, I ll wait for your video of an Orca eating/attacking a human in the WILD because while I'm sure it's happened, I ve never seen a video of an Orca eating/attacking a human in the WILD, ever. At Sea World after years of human abuse towards Orcas, yes. Never seem an Orca attack on humans in the wild.
Very nice you have a degree in biology, working where? Did you do your thesis on Orcas? I'd love to see it. I guess you didn't get a degree in sarcasm because my statement was made for people acting so stupidly appalled at the dangers of the oceans. Like if people don't like it...stay on LAND with the other LAND mammals. If you have your degree in biology than you must know that humans are the ocean"s worst enemy. But hey, I'm preaching to the Choir, right?
@@tis400 it has happened. No one has been killed (that we know of) but swimmers have been seriously injured.
False. Orcas have no respect for humans.
@@tis400 There’s sworn testimony. It’s well documented. Look it up, dickwad.
It’s mentioned in the comments on this video. Just to make it easy.
Now fuck off to your armchair and find something else to be outraged about.
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Never heel to when being attacked by an ocean creature ! Spin around and head back to shore they could sunk you boat ??? Grow a brain next time !
Attack ?
Here we go, another armchair expert who doesn’t think that being thrown around for 30 minutes like a rag doll by 4 wild animals who outweigh you 100 times over is an attack.
we are guests in the oceans, not orcas
What nonsense this is.
We are the dominate species and God has granted us dominance over all the beasts of the world. 12 gauge and slugs would work just fine.
@@Jayellbee God gave us nothing and we don’t need to kill them. Goodness knows we are killing everything.
@@Jayellbee What a load of bollocks! It’s a man made story, to keep the children from misbehaving! Do you believe in Santa too?
I would probably try and source some M-80s. They are waterproof, not terribly destructive, but will dip below the service and cause a shockwave that will definitely deter.
The Orca is my favorite animal, but I’m not going to be disabled and targeted at-sea.
Always with the guns and explosives. Compensating?
@@cimota72 By the very definition, absolutely. The Orca is a far superior predator in its element.
I assume you prefer the route of being helpless and hoping someone will come to your aid if it gets bad enough. Makes perfect sense really. Sheep.
@@bfishlike8307 You’d just piss them off. They’re not cows. Ridiculous notion that you’d scare them away.
@@cimota72 I have spent 21yrs working in underwater acoustics, including applying marine mammal mitigation.
An M80 will produce approximately 165dB of energy into the air. In a denser medium such as water and at such close proximity, the experience would be more than irritating to a marine mammal.
Next time one is gnawing on your rudder, put a couple in and see if they just sigh and look at you.
@@bfishlike8307 of course you have.
And you’d just piss them off.
People who mess with explosives and guns should stay out of civilised waters. I’d rather have orcas.
Just get your signal pistol and shoot them instead of watching them destroying your boat. There is another video out there where they sink a yacht (14 m ?). What's wrong with you? Yes, they are protected, but obeying the law over your and your family's life?
You think that will dissuade them or enrage them? I mean, did you think about it?
@@cimota72 I do not know. But a shot with signal ammunition within short range directly to the target is a very heavy and extremely brutal blow. It enters the body and then burns a huge hole inside. What are the options? Doing nothing like the rabbit facing the snake? I would definitely do it. And I bet, there are some folks who did it already. They will not publish it here - of course not.
Fighting for their space.
Are you kidding 3/4 of the world is a ocean, they are being destructive brats, they do that to my boat and they will get a Seal Bomb dropped on their heads.
@@tonyhill5418 Scientific knowledge is lacking of what homosapiens have done to the quality of oceans, rivers and lakes on planet Earth.
@@tree4408 I know that's bad, but I'm 99% sure they aren't 'fighting for space' because they believe humans are taking everything. They may be intelligent creatures, but I assure you, they aren't that intelligent. Even 99% of humans don't even know what's going on with that and we're 'supposed' to be the most intelligent creature in existence, why would you even think for even a second that Orcas would know?
@@MasterSethern My dear Master Sethern, for the same reason Orcas know were to find food and follow seasonal currents. Animals are the occupants on Earth not destroying their own habitat for money.
@@MasterSethern we will ask the Master Creator one day🤠
Nice clear video
This was not attack.
With all due respect
1) you were not there
2) humans could have been seriously harmed or killed
3) F off.
@@cimota72 you do not understand. from the boat it really looked like an attack, but it’s not an attack. Educate you rude moron
@@MrGOOGREEN orcaIberico calls it an “interaction”. Everyone else calls it an attack.
You weren’t there. You didn’t experience it. Or the aftermath. So piss off.
@@cimota72 yes it was interaktion. And who is " everyone"? Just relax. Its over. You are save. Go to sleep. No i wasnt there, but i have in my life some experience with orcas. So dont be stupid and silly. Just block me if you dont like my comments. No problem. I am just try to tell you something but stupid and scared people never learn. So...be save🙃🙃🙃( anger management)
@@MrGOOGREEN Why do I need to block you? Why don’t you just go away?
The maritime police say attack. The insurance company says attack. The fishing boats and sailors say attack. But you, who have no idea what you’re talking about, says it’s not an attack. Shove off.
Just some bored teenagers having a bit of fun. You just happened to be in the wrong neighbourhood at the wrong time :)...
Yeah. They’re still assholes.
They were pissed about something good thing is there was an interested in the people in the boat, or they would’ve been killed.
Or, as was implied, humans in the water. Not necessarily in a boat, at all. As i think they are smarter than some humans Matt. My info came direct from a sailor friend, living in Gib, and other`s sailing from Langstone harbour. !!!
They’re just animals.
These guys are from a competitor insurance company
Wonder if it's because they're young, and likely male, that they're "practicing" their skills with boats, which can't fight back.
I’d agree.
12 gauge and slugs should take care of them. And no, it's not their ocean, it's our ocean. They are here at our pleasure.
A mama and her calf. What was there mission here?
The mamas are much bigger than any of the four Orcas that were present. These are juveniles. Two older ones supervising the hunting practice of the two very small ones (the smaller ones were around the same size as dolphins). Theory remains that these are coping with the loss of a mama.
Future strategy - put the engine in reverse. It will take long but they will follow from the bow.
Future strategy: don’t go in these waters (but yes I hear this works)
Orca tagging, to know if same group is responsible of sailboat attacks of the area.
Ah ouais... Mais au fait, tu la vois où l'attaque de orques???
Près du port de Sines, où ils ont coulé un autre bateau il y a quelques semaines.
@@cimota72 ah ah!! tu as filmé la scène pour me montrer ça ??!!
@@christophe2591 C'est très difficile pour les gens qui ne se mouillent pas les pieds de comprendre.
They were playing, not attacking.
Yeah. And a fox just plays with a chicken. A cat with a mouse. Harmless stuff.
@@cimota72 how did they know to go after the rudder if they are just simple animals with no language or culture? Yeah, hypothetical.
To the orca, the boat is the sea monster.
And everyone says that orcas are smart.
I guess they’re smart compared to a dog.
Why are people shaking their heads in disbelief that an apex predator has attacked a yacht ? Has no one ever seen them attack a chunk of floating ice because there was a seal resting on it ?. End of the day, it’s a very large wild animal that does not have respect for humans at all.
You know mankind sucks when orcas attack ya
Zero evidence it’s anything other than “super intelligent” orcas being assholes.
I agree with Matt J.!!!
Maybe you...
É uma interação
Masha Allah...masha Allah...👍🌼🏵️💗💗
No different than walking in the woods, respect their world. Some humans think we are superior, but nature will remind those who make the choice to venture into their world.
That's why I always carry depth charges when sailing...lol.
high powered rifle shot if seal bombs dont work
I wonder what would happen if you stuck a cattle prod in the water and activated it while they were biting the rudder?
Быстро отучаться грызть руль.
I think it is just playing of this beautiful animals. I guess if sailors not scared this animals from this behavior in 10 years no sailing boat is save every where orcas are living. Orca's do migrate so do this problem.
They’ve been damaging boats now for 2 years. Their migratory pattern just means a wider geography of interactions. Luckily it’s a small number of animals and animals in other regions are not doing this.
Maybe try restocking their food .. if blue fin tuna were released in numbers to replenish the area .. the Orcas might be busy eating and leave rutters alone.
You'd think these super smart marine mammals would attack fishing boats and then not sailing boats. But you're right, I'll throw overboard the half million Bluefin tuna I'd been saving for a rainy day.
@@cimota72 some fishing boats are sailboats .. there are reports that a sail boating person attacked a female with a oar.
@@rhondaserges5136 that must be it
Fifty boats disabled because orcas dumb.
Using the big wave technique trying to knock there prey off the floating object and into the water
No, they weren’t. But hey. Nice try.
Hey! Let’s go kayak fishing in Gibraltar!😳
Perhaps some small explosives to ward them off...can't have a fish tearing up your flotation device in the middle of nowhere.
More likely to blow a hole in your own boat
Ну где они напали? Так, "зубы точили" об руль. В конце концов рабочее решение - ткнуть шестом в бок - кожа у них сверхчувствительная, действует отлично. Или гидрофон с каким-то невыносимым звуком (песни Киркорова 😅).
Что касается меня, двое держали нас в неуравновешенном состоянии, а еще двое теряли руль направления. теперь сообщает, что их 8. Думать, что вы можете разумно атаковать этих существ с лодки, неразумно.
@@cimota72 ну длинный шест как раз используют дрессировщики в океанариуме. Так что способ проверенный. Во вторых - шест деревянный, без острия. Цель - отбить желание хулиганить, а не ранить кита. Как выпороть ребёнка ремнём.
called the police to get them arrested?
Actually I did call the police. They turned up in a RIB and drove them away and waited with us until the tow arrived. The Orcas don't like RIBs..
@@cimota72 too slippery and no rudders in light colors to have fun, as in total destruction, with😉. I think they will grow out of this behaviour as they mature and find pods to follow. But the two larger ones do require vigilance.