Why I Changed My Mind About Phase

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  • Опубліковано 18 лис 2024

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  • @itsamedjmario
    @itsamedjmario 3 роки тому +9

    My phase was literally just delivered on my doorstep, 3min ago 🤣🤣. Thanks for doing this 👊

    • @PDot
      @PDot  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for watching!

  • @Bobbybangers
    @Bobbybangers 3 роки тому +2

    Love how concise you are! Thanks for this review! subbed

  • @vincentdickens6864
    @vincentdickens6864 3 роки тому +2

    Something told me to wait until they get the kinks out or the price drops! Lately I been seeing good reviews as far as making or keeping DJ performance routine on point ...Thanks for that look on the Phase my man ...My next DJ tool for sure!

  • @djAXCESSmusic
    @djAXCESSmusic 3 роки тому +1

    I havent touched my phase since they first came out. I went the Rane 12 route. glad they finally worked out all the kinks. This at least inspires me to update the firmware and try them out again.

  • @auralxtc
    @auralxtc 3 роки тому +2

    I'm really interested in Phase, and I thought the the "Ultimate" bundle is what I needed since it comes with more than 2 remotes, but they are just backups.... I wish they would come out with a 3 or 4 channel option for those who use more than 2 decks.

  • @OgDj2024
    @OgDj2024 7 місяців тому

    Everything you mentioned is the reason why I was hesitant about upgrading to Phase, along with the price. But, if all those improvements are legit, now I’m reconsidering Phase…🤔

  • @joedone7003
    @joedone7003 3 роки тому +2

    Backspinning with phase. Should it even be attempted? I’m assuming most Dj’s back spin a record at the exact spot where the phase is located? Thoughts anyone?

    • @1djhelix
      @1djhelix 3 роки тому

      If you can beatjuggle with phase you can definitely backspin

  • @DJDwon
    @DJDwon 3 роки тому +1

    I just got my phase last week along with my djm S7! Loving them!

    • @PDot
      @PDot  3 роки тому +1

      That sounds like an AWESOME combination!

    • @TheDiolulaLife
      @TheDiolulaLife 3 роки тому

      I Might have to pick up the phase. I have same set-up.

  • @mariotinnocent6673
    @mariotinnocent6673 10 місяців тому

    I just got phase instead of the rane twelves combined with the rane 72 all the upgrades makes it a lot better

  • @Ziggy_v2
    @Ziggy_v2 3 роки тому

    Glad to know you're finally using Phase. I think it's a great product- in my opinion it's just a matter of time before most traditional turntable DJs will be on Phase.

    • @PDot
      @PDot  3 роки тому

      I agree that there is a good chance we'll see many turntable DJs make the jump.

    • @detroittrickster3327
      @detroittrickster3327 3 роки тому

      @@PDot great review. mine didnt recognize remote a and when the charge died i put the wrong one in cuz i cant tell them apart now i have 2 remote bs nothing charges on a never did can u here help me with that ? Advice ?

  • @rmsamonte
    @rmsamonte 3 роки тому

    My phase were delivered last week. Set up was easy but I noticed some calibration issues. However, I learned yesterday that if I update the firmware, I can double tap the phase to calibrate them. I've yet to try that but will probably do so this weekend. One thing I didn't think about was how the transmitters would get in the way. I usually use the record label area to manipulate the speed to fine tune the timing during a mix. With the transmitter taking much of that area, I had to adjust where I did that. I need to play around with it more to get a better feel for them.

    • @PDot
      @PDot  3 роки тому

      Yes that is a big deal if you are used to using the spindle to pitch bend. Luckily I've always been the type of DJ to slow down the platter with my thumb instead of using the spindle.

  • @DJZensei
    @DJZensei 3 роки тому +1

    I didn't want to buy it as well because of the drift. But I saved lots of $$$ on control vinyl and carts. However, even with the new intergration my phase still suffers from drift especially when I do whip tears or prisms.

  • @ruffnutts
    @ruffnutts 3 роки тому

    lol I was on the fence un till the update came out, had it about 3ish weeks now, awesome stuff :)

  • @kirkstate
    @kirkstate 3 роки тому

    I might look into now, I thought it was a gimmick and wasn't interested for the simple fact I had no use for it. But now since it's not easy to get replacement cartridges for my 1200s I will look into investing in Phase

    • @PDot
      @PDot  3 роки тому

      I agree. I'm finally on my last pair of replacement stylii for my M447s. Phase is cheaper than replacing them 3 more times, its wild!

    • @fernando420
      @fernando420 3 роки тому

      @@PDot but what about all the vinyl in your collection? How are you going to listen to that vinyl if you move forward with phase. Any alternatives and suggestions to the m447’s would be much appreciated.

    • @konmoe121
      @konmoe121 3 роки тому

      @@fernando420 Ortofon VNL, they are great 👌

  • @dj8ball1993nms
    @dj8ball1993nms 3 роки тому

    I opted for the Rane Twelves (Mk1) because I wanted to take advantage of the +16% and +50% pitch. But I am reconsidering.

    • @PDot
      @PDot  3 роки тому

      I TOTALLY understand! I picked up a pair of Pioneer PLX-1000 turntables because I wanted +/- 16% pitch.

    • @mrkdude3943
      @mrkdude3943 3 роки тому

      I got a pair of rane 12s but because of the scratch algorithms and drift issues (rane 12s dont drift but the scratch algorithm is funky IMO) Im abandoning the 12s and just copped the reloops. I personally dont have a problem with traditional DVS and its kinda preferred.

  • @tylerkepple640
    @tylerkepple640 3 роки тому +3

    The 400 dollar question is tho, to me personally, is the phase DVS response between software and timecode actually any better than DVS timecode vinyl? Seems like physics makes this impossible. Because with a controller that just has spinning platters, then you have the software talking directly to the motor controllers to report speed and position as well as subtle variances that could either be the dj pitch bending, or the pitch control changing. Whereas any solution running DVS, even something like this, you will always have to wait for the device to register the rotation change, the rotation change relays to the software, the software registers the change and adjusts bpm on your laptop. Seems like it would be no different using a timecode vinyl vs using phase. Does the USB integration actually help to overcome this inherent delay in any dvs setup? Has anyone used phase with rekordbox? I was using traktor, decided to jump ship and try out some Pio gear, and now I am playing with Serato and Rekordbox as I also purchased some gear that can do both, and I was thinking about picking up phase. Just wondering if it is actually so much better than DVS, that it is worth 400 bucks vs 30 bucks for two control vinyls.

    • @PDot
      @PDot  3 роки тому +3

      The improvement in responsiveness is definitely noticeable compared to Phase sending the timecode via the RCA cables. Feels more consistent and on par with using DVS vinyl.
      You made a point to compare the $400 for Phase compared to $30 for a pair of DVS vinyl, which I don't think is a fair comparison. Phase not only replaces the control vinyl, but also the need for turntable cartridge/stylus. So say you go through 2 pairs of control vinyl a year, that's $60, then add in replacement stylus, for quality cartridges like Shure or Ortofon that can be anywhere between $150-300 for a pair, you're already breaking about even. Within 2 years Phase has already paid for itself.
      Although this is my opinion taking into account how much I DJ/play gigs, and how often a DJ like myself would need to run through these items.

    • @tylerkepple640
      @tylerkepple640 3 роки тому +1

      @@PDot so I decided to jump on it found good price on the ultimate package. Just got it today, need to charge up first but I am stoked to check it out. At this point I have enough controller hardware to run Serato, Rekordbox, and Traktor 3 so I am stoked to get to try it out on all 3 and especially interested in the Serato USB integration. Curious to see if it can work almost as good as like a Ran One or Rane 12 setup where the platter motors are somehow directly mapped in the software. I may finally have to warm up to serato if it works well. I'm also curious if the usb integration will allow me to cheat and use the ddj-sr with t-tables even tho it has no inputs for dvs like the sr2 and rr have. So yah as always, good times experimenting, should be hours of fun :D

    • @pamplemoussemk2
      @pamplemoussemk2 3 роки тому +1

      @@tylerkepple640 hi, I don’t think that the motors of the Rane One are directly used to compute the position of the track, because the motor still runs when you held the record with your hand. I think that there is a sensor in the circular black holder on the record.

    • @tylerkepple640
      @tylerkepple640 3 роки тому +1

      @@pamplemoussemk2 well i bought a set of phase remotes, unfortunately between work, moving, and health issues that had me in the hospital a couple of times (and thankfully are resolved now) I haven't really had a chance to play with them properly. And in that time I had to have one remote replaced due to a bad battery, and also the v6 firmware and Serato 2.5 went from beta to official release. So it seems like it's just minor setback after setback, but they seem pretty solid, other than using them with Rekordbox I am having issues for some reason. Traktor and Serato seems to be no problem, but I can't figure out why Rekordbox works fine with DVS vinyl but phase has this weird issue where if I just hit play on my t-tables, the track starts playing as if the record was barely moving, and I have the rock the record back and forth to get it moving normally, and it happens everytime you go from a dead stop to playing. So I am going to have take time to make a video for their Support team to look at and see what they say. So it seems like a really great device, I just have yet to be able to use mine without some minor issue. Not to mention my own personal life issues. But yah overall they are pretty great I just gotta iron out the final kinks.

    • @ValonHonor
      @ValonHonor 2 роки тому

      @@tylerkepple640 hey I was wondering if you took your Phase for a spin yet. You was really detailed on your prospective and want to know your experience. I also came from traktor and currently using virtual dj because it’s fun. I have Serato pro but never used it. I don’t like change much but will use Serato if it will make my Phase work properly. My problem I’m having is fluctuating bpms. I love mixing and blending but phase makes it so hard when you have runaway bpm. Analyze bpm is never the same and when you cue another song that’s the same bpm it fluctuates as well. Just my experience but I seen this comment at least twice people saying the same thing. Idk

  • @jasonlengson7230
    @jasonlengson7230 3 роки тому

    This video made me buy Phase

  • @dreaccount2027
    @dreaccount2027 2 роки тому +1

    Can Phase be used with just two turntables and Serato DJ Pro without a mixer?

  • @Silverhilt
    @Silverhilt 3 роки тому

    My gripe with initial phase were that it had to be connected to line in and my mixer doesnt have a separate input but instead a switch between that and phono when I listen to vinyl.

    • @PDot
      @PDot  3 роки тому

      Looks like this new Official Serato Accessory support solves that issue!

  • @D-One
    @D-One 2 роки тому

    2:13 Humm.... What does that mean? You're only talking about Mixers with integrated DVS interfaces right? (S9, S7, S11, Elite, Etc....) An "analog" / regular mixer will still need an Audio Interface.... right?

  • @djsupermanslaughter
    @djsupermanslaughter 3 роки тому

    After all the latest updates my phases still tend to drift and I have to re-calibrate over and over to correct. Should I do a full reset?

  • @jayrelldog
    @jayrelldog 2 роки тому

    How do you mark the beginning of the Q-point. Does it work like sticker lock?

  • @gigwebsspecialists8661
    @gigwebsspecialists8661 3 роки тому +1

    Does it mean it’s not equally as tightly integrated with Rekordbox? - I mean seeing that it’s now officially a Serato accessory will it perform equally good with Rekordbox?

    • @PDot
      @PDot  3 роки тому +1

      Unfortunately at the moment this advanced integration is specifically for Serato.

  • @TheDJMENACENL
    @TheDJMENACENL 3 роки тому

    @PDotTV do you have TWITCH? I want to follow you. GREAT CONTENT!!

  • @sandy737
    @sandy737 3 роки тому +2

    My issue with Phase when I used it a few months back is that it's too intrusive to the sticker on the Vinyl. When doing pitch bends to match beats I use the sticker and platter to adjust speeds. The Phase just got in the way. If you don't use the middle sticker for mixing like I do this shouldn't be an issue. Just thought I'd put it in why I dind't like it. If they made the remotes smaller I would be a buyer.

    • @akaiuwu
      @akaiuwu 3 роки тому

      i never use the label when nudging anyways lol, i always did around the inner grooves cause i played tons of eps and singles - never much an issue for me
      only had issues with connections fucking up, latency and nothing else lol

    • @TheDiolulaLife
      @TheDiolulaLife 3 роки тому

      I know what you mean. I speed up lightly from the sticker and use the Grooves to slow down. It’s a good point. I’m gonna see how much it affects it will be my deciding factor.

  • @ys521wow
    @ys521wow 3 роки тому

    Does phase need serato dvs to be active?

  • @ronm8298
    @ronm8298 2 роки тому

    Great review! For some reason, I am still not convinced and I don’t know why. When they first released, I didn’t jump on it for the same reasons. Now, I see many deejays using them like one of the best, DJ Jazzy Jeff, DJ Puffy, DJ Craze & many more. I’m still debating on Phase or Rane Twelve MKII. I already have a pair of 1210M5Gs hence why I’m think Phase. Any advice?

    • @PDot
      @PDot  2 роки тому +1

      Honestly if you still play vinyl and not just DVS… I think Phase is a better option than buying another pair of decks (Rane twelves)

    • @ronm8298
      @ronm8298 2 роки тому

      @@PDot Thanks for your input, appreciate it!

  • @detroittrickster3327
    @detroittrickster3327 3 роки тому

    mine dint recognize remote a and when the charge died i put the wrong one in cuz i cant tell them apart now i have 2 remote bs nothing charges on a never did can ne one here help me with that ?

    • @tylerkepple640
      @tylerkepple640 3 роки тому +1

      You might need a firmware update, you might have a bad unit tho, I would contact their support, they are very helpful if you will take the time to provide video evidence of your issue. I bought the kit with 4 remotes, out of the 4, only 3 would charge and one would turn on only when on the base receiver and would turn off as soon as you pulled it so I knew I had a bad remote. I filmed this for them, shared it to them via a free Dropbox account of a video I took on my phone, and they had me return one remote and sent me a replacement now they all work fine. So I would contact MWM support and start there.

    • @detroittrickster3327
      @detroittrickster3327 3 роки тому

      @@tylerkepple640 thx i dont whether to wait or just say fuck it and get the rane 12

    • @tylerkepple640
      @tylerkepple640 3 роки тому

      @@detroittrickster3327 yah for sure, I have been lusting after some new Rane platter gear, but I already have a set of t-tables, they are nothing fancy but they are direct drive and work ok, and I like the idea that phase gives you some options if you were playing out somewhere and gear options were limited. Personally I would love to own some Rane 12's and a pio s7 or s11 mixer, but controllers are kind of my crutch to mix with so I haven't gone all in on higher end gear. I like to dabble with different gear and setups, so for now phase is great for the gear combo I have but yah I hear ya, the mk2 Rane 12's are sweet since they will put out dvs signal for other software that don't use USB platter integration IE anything other than Serato.

  • @homeoftutorials2549
    @homeoftutorials2549 3 роки тому

    I recieved my phase yesterday and used 5V charger recommended unfortunately it exploded with amagic smoke 😫 is there anyways of repairing ?

    • @PDot
      @PDot  3 роки тому +2

      Oh man, sorry to hear that! If you just got them, I'd try to have either MWM or the store you got them from to replace them.

  • @MNToThat
    @MNToThat 2 роки тому

    Does it work well with Traktor Pro 2?

  • @djhightopfade4940
    @djhightopfade4940 3 роки тому

    Which version of Serato allows you to run Phase in HID mode? Thanks.

    • @PDot
      @PDot  3 роки тому +1

      Currently the Serato DJ Pro 2.5 beta which you can find on the Serato website in the forums. It should be out of beta in an official release soon!

  • @fernando420
    @fernando420 3 роки тому

    What has everyone been doing when they need to replace their m447’s? Any suggestions on a stylus that is comparable would be greatly appreciated.

    • @RefugeetheDJ
      @RefugeetheDJ 3 роки тому +2

      Get ortofon concords

    • @PDot
      @PDot  3 роки тому +3

      Jico makes a great quality 447 replacement stylus!

    • @fernando420
      @fernando420 3 роки тому

      @@RefugeetheDJ thanks

    • @fernando420
      @fernando420 3 роки тому

      @@PDot thanks.

    • @pamplemoussemk2
      @pamplemoussemk2 3 роки тому

      Yes, try the new Ortofon VNL

  • @djtrickset
    @djtrickset 3 роки тому

    Can you use Phase with 2 DJs/Laptops? Or does each DJ/Laptop need their own Phase?

  • @DV91
    @DV91 3 роки тому

    What about Traktor pro? Was the drift fixed for traktor?

    • @PDot
      @PDot  3 роки тому

      Although I haven't used Phase with Traktor Pro, this particular update does not work with it.

    • @JayKayNg
      @JayKayNg 3 роки тому

      @@PDot Im on Traktor Pro and this was key for me if it also was sorted. With all the money spent on Traktor hardware to add the money for Serato Pro licence or Hardware that will unlock Serato will make my change very expensive

  • @youaintseenmeok
    @youaintseenmeok 3 роки тому

    Is it any good with traktor

    • @PDot
      @PDot  3 роки тому +1

      Phase does work with Traktor but you will still need to use it with RCA cables, this update is not compatible.

  • @tlarocksdaoriginodjlouielo9004

    My only gripe is the battery compartment. Is the battery replacecable when the life of the battery dies out or would I need to purchase new Phase controllers because these are not cheap. I mentioned this on another post but the post was removed. Things that make you go hmm.

  • @i-am-mercurial
    @i-am-mercurial 3 роки тому

    But how does that work with an analogue mixer? I. E. How can I cut? Can I output a single channel from my laptop into a mixer channel?

    • @akaiuwu
      @akaiuwu 3 роки тому

      you'll need a DVS box if you wanna use non-DVS capable mixers

  • @d-man4937
    @d-man4937 3 роки тому

    Is it easily switched back to needles when the batteries die? Love the content, keep up the good work.

    • @PDot
      @PDot  3 роки тому +2

      With this new official Serato accessory mode it’s as easy as flipping back to relative or absolute mode in Serato DJ Pro!

  • @sunnypuri4933
    @sunnypuri4933 3 роки тому

    Rane 12?

    • @PDot
      @PDot  3 роки тому

      The Rane 12s are great, but I like to play real vinyl from time to time. So if I Got Rane 12s I'd have to swap them in and out with my actual turntables, which can be a hassle.

  • @sergi0sendel
    @sergi0sendel 3 роки тому +1

    Call me old school but im still using an SL3 with a TTM 56S mixer. Will i still at least need rca’s from my SL3 to my mixer? Or not even that now?

    • @mrkdude3943
      @mrkdude3943 3 роки тому +1

      i rock a 56s too. Goat turntablist mixer!

    • @PDot
      @PDot  3 роки тому

      The 56S + SL3 is still a GREAT combo! If you are using that setup with Phase you will still need RCAs from the SL3 to the mixer.

    • @StonedSoldado
      @StonedSoldado 3 роки тому +1

      Call me Old School - I still rock the TTM57SL redline version! And on my last pair of M447’s, damn...

  • @stevedub5006
    @stevedub5006 3 роки тому +1

    Still no use for these while I’m stuck at home and even when we are back to gigs if I want to turn my turntables into Rane twelves I’ll just buy a Rane one. These are only good for djs on really big stages on turntables IMO.

  • @milagroman75
    @milagroman75 3 роки тому +1

    Phase is aight. But why not just use needles....they’re super accurate and you don’t need to play these calibration games...is it to save money?

  • @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777
    @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 2 роки тому

    not good and either are the Rane 12s. When you take away the critical point of cartridge and needle.. it's no longer DJing . it takes away pretty much half the skill involved.

  • @oldstyleanalog6459
    @oldstyleanalog6459 2 роки тому

    No phase for me.i got my sure 44 7 with jico stylus.works just as good as original one.and I have ortofon vnl which is also great and ortofon scratch.the white unit which also works great.Have my tone arms calibrated.and that's all I need to keep it real.I have serato and I still play vynil.No need for phase junk.

    • @PDot
      @PDot  2 роки тому +3

      While I love playing with actual cartridges, there are some clubs that have the subs so close to (even sometimes right under) the DJ booth it makes getting a clean tracking signal possible. In those cases, I’m really thankful for phase!

    • @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777
      @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 2 роки тому

      @@PDot what do you do when the battery dies and the connection drops randomly when you have a full charge or interference due to the wireless nature.. many more random issues than just a frequency problem you can tame easily with a good limiter

    • @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777
      @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 2 роки тому

      phase is toy junk for sure.. landfill item . a DJ chachkie for those with some extra fluff in their pockets they feel bored to spend spend spend - using turntables with your flavor of Cartridge / stylus is what DJ is all about and makes you a unique sound overall. Notice how no one is talking about them. It's like a party trick.

  • @DanielleKingdjdinosaur
    @DanielleKingdjdinosaur Рік тому

    i use Rane 12s and it was the problem of lag that is always an issue with wireless gear. that kept me away from them though had i kept my Technics then this system would give me twoo players in one .Vinyl and digital.I am still not in the market as i have my Rane 12s and my records are in storage but if i get some new Technics and my records back then phase my be an option.Just not right now