24:20 It's also been pointed out that the super villains in this game are doomed, they didn't just commit crimes tonight, they committed treason by aiding in a massive terrorist attack, they sank all their money into the attack and Bruce sabotaged their efforts to regain their money, and even if, by some miracle they still manage to find a way to get back on the streets... they're now protected by Red Hood, who is a lot less tolerant of them.
@@Xanarchist7777 True but Robin plays by Bruce's rules, Tim's no different to Bruce, except the Thugs are less scared of him, Jason is a killer who killed his way through at least one gang post Halloween.
I really don't like the sin about Bruce's parents going into a place called crime alley because, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't it given the name "crime alley" because of the Wayne murders? And beyond that, I hate the "one simple apology makes Jason forgive" ideology. Barbara tries to explain what happened to Jason (in the audio tapes) and it makes him think about the reality of the situation. Bruce does the same when Jason reveals who he is. Then, we know that at the end Jason is tracking batman. I would assume that Jason sees how much batman is sacrificing to save Tim and its only then that he truly understands batman never forgot him. If Bruce is willing to lose himself for Tim, he would've done it for Jason and THAT made jason forgive.
8:19 Not to mention the Joker infection has been making him hallucinate drastic changes in the city’s statue’s & billboards. To think that it couldn’t hallucinate a gun being farther than it is would be completely disregarding the even-more intense, insane hallucinations that its already done.
But we're supposed to believe later in the game that batman gets injected THREE TIMES with full fear toxin doses and can just shut Joker out? Yet he can't figure out barbs death wasn't real? it was dumb as shit and you know it lmfao
the batmobile actually wasnt implemented in the previous games cuz of technical limitations same goes for gadgets while gliding which was supposed to be in arkham city and was shown in the trailer but yea the limiting environment plays a factor also in origins it wasnt built yet
@@nikin.7170 ua-cam.com/video/muCtJsy-d9w/v-deo.html timestamped he uses the batclaw while gliding and that was a planned feature the animation also looks very similar to the one in arkham knight
@@ConradRT That's a pre-rendered cutscene, it's not in the game engine. Altough to be honest, I could've done without Gadgets while Gliding the whole series. They don't really make much difference, I barely use them and I've played Knight more than 10 times.
@@highlightermarca-texto3281 yea i could never figure out how to use more than one or two at a time even though i got the four - five upgrade just stopped gliding when i tried more than one
I didn't even notice Joker slide her the gun the first time I played the game, even my second run through I didn't notice it, it wasn't until I played through on a higher difficulty I took the time and saw it happen. Point stands this scene is impactful as fuck and it's not always easy to notice such a small detail your first few times through.
I've always seen it as a small tell that this is a complete hallucination. The keen eyed viewer might get suspicions on what is real and suspect Barbara is still alive
@@joshuab.tweedie9688I was completely surprised, but I've seen reactors pickup on their initial playthroughs. Hell, Arkham Asylum fooled me with Gordon's death.
The gut shot thing I think is actually genius. Jason knows the weaknesses but isn't allowed to kill him. Based on Jason's gun he's shooting a 9mm probably a hollow point and with the gun pressed onto the armor it has less time to pick up speed and I'm pretty sure the suit has some flexible kevlar type material (I faintly remember something about flexible titanium something or other) All of this would fuck bats up without risking death and Jason knows this and that's why he sends thugs right after that scene
@@jthablaidd who said it fixed it? It could have been a compound to clot the wound, he's also not shown to be bleeding from there so it's entirely possible that whilst it went through the toughest part of the suit it still was slowed enough by the tri weave kevlar or whatever it was to not enter so deeply. But yes I agree it would have been cool to have a moment where he is shown removing the bullet etc. He basically had a bullet in him this entire game which doesn't seem healthy 😂
@@MrHenhen5 granted it could’ve plugged up the hole. But then wouldn’t the juice just fall out with all the fighting, rough riding, falling, and gliding?
The moment with christine belle is actually an intresting one in my opinion. It shows that joker is so violently obsessed with batman, he's convinced they are soulmates when they aren't. The creepy way it comes across is pretty cool.
I love how Dartigan says the Waynes chose to walk through a street called crime alley when it was only called crime alley after their deaths and is actually called Park Row
oh in his marvels spider man video spider man got hit by a crane at maybe 15MPR and he said spider man survives this and counted it as a sin it was so dumb and made me so made
Good thing I never bothered watching Dartigan's content, most if not all of his points seem entirely based on him not paying attention to the game he's playing. Plus what the hell is with all the Robin hate, what did Robin ever do to him?
51:42 also another point is that Jason saw what Bruce sacrifice in order to save Tim, he even left his most important equipment, his utility belt and give himself to scarecrow just to save the new robin, this probably make Jason realize that Bruce would do anything to save him if he'd know he was alive..
14:30 Not to mention pictures of Batman with Tim literally proved that it happened before the tapes were sent. Obviously Bruce just thought that having a new Robin to help out and possibly find Jason isn’t malicious in anyway, but Jason doesn’t see it that way, especially after having his will and psyche pretty much broken by The Joker.
43:43 It’s also worth mentioning that if they did try to shoot Batman, they run the risk of shooting the Penguin, which means they won’t get their cut. They can’t beat Batman up as well unless they attack as a unit, which still won’t help when Batman has their hands on their boss and will most likely threaten to hurt him if they start to act up.
It’s also worth mentioning that the only gun isn’t pointed at Batman with penguin in his view there 4 directions 2 of which is blocked by Batman with penguin and the other two blocked by some thugs that’s lazy
@@Shadowkiller-dq2ju Valid, but everyone would fight over it then. Not unless they decide to make an agreement to make a fair deal, which is unlikely. I do imagine some people getting some of it during the fight and leaving, but I don’t think that actually happened, and they also need a way to get out too, which is possible, but I’m not sure if that’s likely.
It's because they attempt to justify the stupidest shit possible for all the pretentious losers on Reddit who genuinely believe they can do better with $5 and a string.
Because unlike the ones copying them most of time they are just jokes not actually a critique videos, most of the other channels forget that and try to make it an actual critique videos
7:50 Ever notice how when you have a dream and there's something really weird happening in the dream that defies all logic (like someone being alive who died years ago, discovering that you can fly a little bit by just flapping your arms, or having flying towel for a pet), and it makes perfect sense to you WHILE you're in the dream, but not after you wake up? Yeah. That's pretty much what hallucinations are: dreams, except you're still awake. 35:07 How the hell could Batman be expected to know what players would already have deduced based on knowledge of the franchise? Batman isn't Deadpool, so he can't break the fourth wall. At this point he doesn't know that Jason is still alive, and the only "Red Hood" anyone in the continuity of the games knew about had fallen into a vat of chemicals, and never seen again.
to add at 11:30 : the joker Christina bell represents is the obsession with Batman, hence why she seems creepy due to her love with him. to list the others, Albert king (the Goliath) is jokers brutal side, Johnny charisma is the humorous side of joker, and Henry adams is the smart and deceiving side of the joker.
All five jokers show one key aspect of his personality. Christina Bell shows Joker’s obsessive romanticism and fixation on Batman. Albert King represents Joker’s surprising strength, brutality, and resilience (which is why he’s the only actual fight). Johnny Charisma shows Joker’s elaborate, hilarious, and sometimes suicidal showmanship. Henry Adams exudes Joker’s capacity to manipulate, his lethal cunning and intelligence. And finally, Batman himself shows Joker’s pure murderous instinct and ability to kill, which he constantly tries to repress over the entire story
I feel like I am the only person that loves Arkham Knight unconditionally (and as such, the Arkham Knights arc, Scarecrow's role in the story alongside Fear Toxin Joker)
I personally think it would’ve made a lot more sense if the combination of bat and human DNA was supposed to be for blind people to give them the ability to use bat echolocation
43:30 to add to the point here, just like the Joker makes a point of in either Asylum or City, I can't remember exactly which, you never know when Bats plans to start killing. Especially considering the 50 ton elephant in the room, for all that Militia thug knows, Batman could be about to crush his head like a grape under the tires when he has the information he needs
10:02 I think for that sin it is kinda valid. Even though Henry has access to the bar computer, most if not all things that allow you to change the password require you to input your previous password to confirm it’s you. I’m sure a voice recognition software being used as a password system would require the same thing.
There’s a lot of valid sins to be fair, clown comes off very whiny I get he likes the game but acting like all the games are sinless is just weird and delusional
@@brokenknight4938 Most of the criticisms I nitpicked in this video were not valid to me, and I provide exactly why when going over the sin. Knight has a LOT of problems that I, and many others, acknowledge. Charriii5 and Dartigan both point out some of these criticisms in their original videos. I did not cover them because they weren’t wrong with the video. By the way, yeah I’m gonna be weird and delusional in my videos, because I’m a rabid fanboy, stuck playing the same four games all the time, trying to make a point about them. I don’t think these games are sinless, but the sins videos covering them are just wrong half the time. And as the token delusional fanboy in the UA-cam space, I feel it’s my obligation to call them out!
@@ClownPuncher139 fair enough I’m just as obsessed with the games lol I’ve just recently got all the original achievements for Knight, Origins and Asylum and I’m 94% of the way there in city. I did find you nitpicking jokes to be a bit cringey at times and when the argument the person makes isn’t very clearly stated in game it’s fair to sin it in my opinion like I get you wanna plug ur content but not everyone is gonna play these games and watch ur theory which again is a theory and can’t really be stated as fact. Btw I’d also like to introduce a theory of mine to you. It’s on yt but it’s about where Tyger security came from you can link it back to Shiva and Brandon from Origins and all the way to the militia commander and Arkham knight forces especially the ones with detective mode proof camouflage and stuff like that it’s a really fun idea IMO.
it’s satisfying to see how many of these “sins” are so easily debunked with simple logic. goes to show how the majority of them are so lazily thought up.
8:20 with the Barbra fear toxin scene, yeah, first play through, I saw the world through Batman’s eyes, and I was in tears because all I saw was Barbra kill herself. It took a full play through, a video going over minor details, and watching this scene a dozen times before I could see it rationally, and guess what, IT STILL MAKES ME CRY because this is how you write a story. God I feel sad.
You make a lot of good points defending the game against game sin vids. Also a challenge idea asylum without upgrades. Got the idea I while ago when I beat asylum for the fourth time, because I think asylum is the hardest game in the saga, I would say city is the most balanced out of all plus origins but city is higher because of the bazzare glitches and I don’t know any thing about knight because I don’t have Xbox one /series , ps4 /ps5.
41:53 the joke there is that out of everything on the floor in the room, Gordon just so happens to step on the one thing that reminded him of Barbara and Gordon being happy, causing his anger to rise even more.
Man, I really appreciate this video. People keep hating on Arkham Knight's story, and you mentioned almost every defensive point about it. I hope many people watch this video and realise it wasn't nearly as bad as they thought.
I liked pretty much everything about Arkham Knight including the car and yes i know i will get a ton of hate for liking the Batmobile but it isn't Rocksteady's fault for including it into every part of the game including combat its the fact that players of the franchise begged for it to be a gameplay mechanic since Asylum don't get me wrong i wanted to be able to use the car in gameplay too but not to the point where Rocksteady would feel forced to put it into every part of the game
Say what you want about Arkham Knight, but this is one of the most detailed games I have ever played. I'm on probably my 5th play through, and I'm still finding new stuff.
Then I'll make Everything wrong with williamcalhoun883's Everything with Clownpuncher139's 'Everything wrong with every EWW Arkham Knight Video' Video"
Honestly, people ranting about the Batmobile in Knight is funny to me considering those people are the same people asking for the Batmobile and they got so mad over it being in the game a lot
34:10 This is even more perfect for me because this is exactly what I said at the exact same time in sync with Peter (and I didn't even know that was coming so you basically expressed my exact thought in a meme and I love you for that)
On top of the thing about him not thinking clearly enough to realize that Barb's death wasn't real, He probably just flat out didn't even notice Joker sliding the gun at all, Most players didn't.
I have to say I disagree with one point: Bruce buying Arkham wouldn’t automatically be suspicious in my opinion. All he has to do is make the case that “we have this vigilante who captures dangerous criminals who endanger our city time and time again. And they always get sent to the same place where nothing ever happens except they come back more dangerous. Surely I’m not the only one sick of this happening. If we can’t do anything about this bat vigilante maybe we can do something to fix part of this broken equation and make Arkham Asylum somewhere more than just a place to heal broken bones from the bat before escaping and starting the cycle all over again!”
31:09 Also, he made it perfectly clear that he doesn't give a sh*t who his gas infects specifically; thugs, criminals, fellow rogues, everyone's a test subject to him. His introduction scene in Arkham Asylum shows that. 45:27 Thank you.
Tbh the only one I enjoy out of the two is chariii5, he's pretty funny in his other videos and even tho i disagreed with him on arkham knight he is still funny at certain points in my personal opinion. The other guy on the other hand? Seems more nitpicky then other sins channels and he ignores obvious things in the game Again this is my personal opinion so please don't come at me
I’m the same. Charriii5 at least tried to make valid sins most of the time, and his jokes are pretty funny. Dartigan just keeps sinning the most mundane details about the game that didn’t even matter. He probably had 10 sins that were either valid, or were attempted to be valid. All the rest of the time, he was sinning Bat-phones and the fact that the diner had a 50’s theme. Hence why I sinned at least 75% of his video.
The bit when he says that Oooh Batman shouldn't blame himself for Joker's death. It's completely in his character to feel this way, hell he blamed himself for Jason's and Barbara's "death" he is a man who intentionally puts himself in harm's Way to save people even when It's debatable if a person he saves is good or bad. So It's dumb for counting this, and pretty much everything he brings up as a game sin.
Did you know that you can actually counter the doctor with the lead pipe in city? The timing is a little tight, and it's especially annoying in New Game +, but it's possible.
I love the Freeze being irrational angle because in City he destroys one of the cures because Nora was taken even though he could've just asked Batman to go find her nicely and he would've returned in like 10 minutes. Also I'm sorry but I have to sin you right now. Batfleck is a terrible Batman because he FUCKING KILLS PEOPLE! As a supposed massive Batman fan you should know ehy Batfleck is bad.
Lets not forget that the reason Jason was left in that abandoned wing in arkham is due to the fact that Jason went after Joker after the incident with the kindergarten and Jason, seeing the parents piece their children together, deove him to go after the joker himself. Turning off not only the tracker within his suit, but also the comms unit he had on him, he went to Arkham to confront the Joker and judging by the timeline was sometime shortly before Jokers escape from Arkham Before events prior to Asylum. Jason got captured and due to the people Joker had on their payroll at the Asylum it would be easy to hide him. You can read the story on it in the game, but that was why Jason was abandoned after Joker sent the footage to Batman.
@Bluewolf442 also they butchered Jason Todd’s character, and completely changed his entire motivations for the worse, in Under the Red Hood, Red Hood definitely makes some great points about Batman’s morality, in Arkham Knight, not so much, as Joker was already dead
To be fair, there have been a few times Batman's bought or been heavily involved in Arkham management. Batman of Arkham and the time Wayne Manor had to be Arkham for a while.
im gonna be completely honest; ive played through arkham knight a solid 5 or 6 times and never even though about the whole joker sliding the gun to barbara part, thats nuts
Let's also not forget the fact about how Bruce locked Tim up because he cares, it's tough love. Bruce didn't lock Tim up for spotlight but he did it because he knew what Jason went through and didn't want tim getting in the way of a legitimate war zone out there like the mistake he made with the legitimate female who stood beside bruce.
@@scotthall2415 Bruce is selfic yes, but he was clearly more concerne that Tim would be reckless and get himself killed after fiding out about Barbasa's "death." THAT is why he locked him up, he doesn't want to lose someone else. He told Dick because he knew he would be more rational about it than Tim.
These guys make some of the worst points ever, it's basically like someone watching this video, saying "youtube video", and disliking it with no other explanation
15:24 even tho I agree with you that Crane doesn't speak to Bat but to Gordon. Charriii5 pointed out thing I was wondering about. How did crane knew what Bruce saw in this hideout? And how did he set it up
Bruce Wayne buying Arkham isn’t giving himself away. He can use the excuse of helping the criminally insane and provide them the help they need. So really it’s not giving himself away.
Dartigan is saying that even when going with a helicopter and explosions Scarecrow is still running away aka fleeing not that he literaly is running. For someone who complains about others not paying attention its pretty ironic that you missed this point.
I think this was more a joke than a true point, scarecrow himself was saying he wasn't running which was what clown was referring to. Your point is valid scarecrow is fleeing aka running but I think clown was taking a cheap jab at dartigans point kinda like dartigans jabs at the TV screens and beats, not necessarily meant to be taken too serious but still there, but I could totally be wrong
I just found this channel rather recently but it’s one of my new favorites. I love the introspection you take to these games. I’d love to see you do some actual sins of the rest of the games like you did with Arkham City. As someone who’s been too depressed to do much else lately, your videos have been a fun reprieve from that so thank you. Keep up the great work.
29:59 So you say that the people we see in this scene are the 6.3 million people that live in Gotham , and did you forget that there are 3 islands in this city ?
Fair point, but if that many people are looking at a single Jumbotron then do you really think there are a lot of those screens. Plus they are all basically in the middle of a street that goes far back. Thousands of people could stand looking at that one Jumbotron. And based on those building placements, then even more people could see the Jumbotron from their windows or rooftops.
Making the I am Batman part a sin!? The that guy never in his live has watch the animated series and the most memorable moment of them all, infinite sins
You did not fight the Grundy inmates, you got spotted in the first 5 seconds, you knocked out the Riddler goon, and you got spotted by the last enemy, that be 4 sins
3:26 i think Robin gave up too easily there 4:33 only way he could get Jim in is by forcing him which could damage their relationship 6:29 Hell Henry Cavill tested that out RIGHT NEXT TO A SUPERMAN BILLBOARD. Most failed 8:27 I damn sure didn't notice it. Sure I had partial doubts, but only partial 11:52 IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. THAT'S WHY IT'S STILL FUN TO HAVE IT THERE 17:02 Doctors have been doing this for centuries. Hell Penicillin came by accident 18:38 I mean let's be honest, we all thought about leaving him 19:44 I mean they should have shown more anyway. A crazy guy with good combat skills and a decent sense of morale is all that's shown. Is he good at stealth? No killing? Crimes in the past? I expected more 22:06 Anyone else wish we got that suit in Arkham Knight as a skin? 25:17 Already addressed this. People don't notice the obvious as easily as you think. Even Batman didn't in City
I feel that sinning Poison Ivy for being overly sexy is fair. Dartigan just doesn't sin the problem itself, and sins something she does, which doesn't make sense.
Well at that point, it’s just criticizing the character herself, not the game of Arkham Knight. And, again, being overly-sexualized is an integral part of her character.
@@ClownPuncher139 their entire gimmick is doing what CinemaSins does 2 movies but applying it to video games and so there's sometimes doing a bunch of bulshit to pad the sin count
42:18 I'll say something about this since in literally every medium, Robin is seen as a surrogate SON for Batman, no matter who's behind the mask. Granted, Tim had a family outside of Bruce for a while after becoming Robin, but we don't know if that's the case in this universe, so for all we know, Tim could be orphaned already and living with Bruce as his ward. Basically what I'm saying is this joke isn't funny and it's the equivalent of making said joke about a father and son.
52:07 Oh man. Calling out a new trilogy-baiting that never happened and ending on that was just *chef's kiss* icing on the cake. I laughed, I cringed, I can't believe these dumb sins videos exist. But the best part is when they say something so unbelievably stupid to make you angry. I couldn't contain myself after the third joke about nobody wanting Robin in the game when one of my biggest issues with Knight was that I wished we had the opportunity to freely switch between the Bat-family like in City with Catwoman and Batman.
An idea! Can you beat the Arkham games without countering? (I know you have to counter at some points like for Ra’s or Deathstroke but make a counter counter kinda like for the no grapnel challenge.) Also I tried to do this and failed miserably lol.
You can definitely beat Arkham Knight without countering. I got a combo of 121 by just punching, special combo moving, and vaulting. The same can not be said for Arkham Origins though. Those enemies do not telegraph their punches at all so you can kiss beating their punches with yours goodbye. I learned to counter in Origins the hard way
I have to heavily disagree with your assessment that Bruce Wayne buying and reforming Arkham Asylum would out his identity as Batman. I bet every citizen of Gotham who isn’t a criminal would want Arkham to be reformed into an actually effective institution, and Bruce has spent tons of money in the past on projects that benefit the public. I know for a fact that if I lived in Gotham and Wayne started fixing Arkham my first thought would be “About time, good going Bruce!” and not “Wait a minute, the only person in this city who would want the supervillains to stop being supervillains is Batman!”
24:20 It's also been pointed out that the super villains in this game are doomed, they didn't just commit crimes tonight, they committed treason by aiding in a massive terrorist attack, they sank all their money into the attack and Bruce sabotaged their efforts to regain their money, and even if, by some miracle they still manage to find a way to get back on the streets... they're now protected by Red Hood, who is a lot less tolerant of them.
Plus Robin too I think
@@Xanarchist7777 True but Robin plays by Bruce's rules, Tim's no different to Bruce, except the Thugs are less scared of him, Jason is a killer who killed his way through at least one gang post Halloween.
@@medafan53 true-er
You're right
@@medafan53 and will probably be taken down by robin
bruh?? jason should be the one incarcelated he planted a dozen of bombs
I really don't like the sin about Bruce's parents going into a place called crime alley because, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't it given the name "crime alley" because of the Wayne murders?
And beyond that, I hate the "one simple apology makes Jason forgive" ideology. Barbara tries to explain what happened to Jason (in the audio tapes) and it makes him think about the reality of the situation. Bruce does the same when Jason reveals who he is. Then, we know that at the end Jason is tracking batman. I would assume that Jason sees how much batman is sacrificing to save Tim and its only then that he truly understands batman never forgot him. If Bruce is willing to lose himself for Tim, he would've done it for Jason and THAT made jason forgive.
Yeah. It was originally a normal alleyway and dubbed the name "Crime Alley" after their murders.
That was the second worst sin in that video IMO, only topped by the dude sinning the “I am Vengeance” scene
@@Jonathan-A.C. The second worst sin for me was sinning Arkham Knight Joker.
@@tobyjack1238
Bro ye.
So many bad sins in this video
Park Row
8:19 Not to mention the Joker infection has been making him hallucinate drastic changes in the city’s statue’s & billboards. To think that it couldn’t hallucinate a gun being farther than it is would be completely disregarding the even-more intense, insane hallucinations that its already done.
But we're supposed to believe later in the game that batman gets injected THREE TIMES with full fear toxin doses and can just shut Joker out? Yet he can't figure out barbs death wasn't real? it was dumb as shit and you know it lmfao
Im still wondering if that’s the same wheelchair she normally sits in😂😂
@@treshonlawrence7130 lmfaooooo
That's exactly what I always say!
@@scotthall2415 Hey buddy. It's a funny little thing called...panic.
the batmobile actually wasnt implemented in the previous games cuz of technical limitations same goes for gadgets while gliding which was supposed to be in arkham city and was shown in the trailer but yea the limiting environment plays a factor also in origins it wasnt built yet
I heard that just the Batmobile controls in Arkham Knight take up enough data that of an Xbox 360 Game
Which trailer was weapons while gliding in? I can't find it and would love to see it
@@nikin.7170 ua-cam.com/video/muCtJsy-d9w/v-deo.html timestamped
he uses the batclaw while gliding and that was a planned feature
the animation also looks very similar to the one in arkham knight
@@ConradRT That's a pre-rendered cutscene, it's not in the game engine. Altough to be honest, I could've done without Gadgets while Gliding the whole series. They don't really make much difference, I barely use them and I've played Knight more than 10 times.
@@highlightermarca-texto3281 yea i could never figure out how to use more than one or two at a time even though i got the four - five upgrade just stopped gliding when i tried more than one
I didn't even notice Joker slide her the gun the first time I played the game, even my second run through I didn't notice it, it wasn't until I played through on a higher difficulty I took the time and saw it happen. Point stands this scene is impactful as fuck and it's not always easy to notice such a small detail your first few times through.
I had never seen that until pointed out in this video.
Helps immerse us into how Batman is feeling during all of this much better as well.
I've always seen it as a small tell that this is a complete hallucination. The keen eyed viewer might get suspicions on what is real and suspect Barbara is still alive
@@joshuab.tweedie9688I was completely surprised, but I've seen reactors pickup on their initial playthroughs. Hell, Arkham Asylum fooled me with Gordon's death.
I have been through that cutscene at least 6 times. I didn't notice it either.
The gut shot thing I think is actually genius.
Jason knows the weaknesses but isn't allowed to kill him.
Based on Jason's gun he's shooting a 9mm probably a hollow point and with the gun pressed onto the armor it has less time to pick up speed and I'm pretty sure the suit has some flexible kevlar type material (I faintly remember something about flexible titanium something or other)
All of this would fuck bats up without risking death and Jason knows this and that's why he sends thugs right after that scene
bullets don't pick up speed, the fastest they are when they leave the gun so your point makes a less sense now
I still don’t know why people think the “stim shot from mw2019” will magically fix the hole in his side
@@jthablaidd who said it fixed it? It could have been a compound to clot the wound, he's also not shown to be bleeding from there so it's entirely possible that whilst it went through the toughest part of the suit it still was slowed enough by the tri weave kevlar or whatever it was to not enter so deeply.
But yes I agree it would have been cool to have a moment where he is shown removing the bullet etc. He basically had a bullet in him this entire game which doesn't seem healthy 😂
@@MrHenhen5 granted it could’ve plugged up the hole. But then wouldn’t the juice just fall out with all the fighting, rough riding, falling, and gliding?
Pretty sure that the flexible titanium is for the neck but it's been a while since I've played the game so
The Peter griffin clip of him saying “Oh My God Who The Hell Caresss” made me laugh so hard
Yeah because it's how everyone feels about life and most importantly these dumb jokes called Sin Channels
The moment with christine belle is actually an intresting one in my opinion. It shows that joker is so violently obsessed with batman, he's convinced they are soulmates when they aren't. The creepy way it comes across is pretty cool.
I love how Dartigan says the Waynes chose to walk through a street called crime alley when it was only called crime alley after their deaths and is actually called Park Row
8:23 I've played this game 4 times over and this is the first time I've noticed that
I am very sure it's a Scarecrow goon passing it, but Batman sees it as Joker
Nice profile pic
@@devinsethna1287 ikr thanks bud
@@darektrankiewicz880 It's not. Any scarecrow goon would have been gassed in that chamber.
Some of dartigans points are just… questionable to say the least, “they look like beats headphones or a dc knock off”. Is THAT a sin. Sure buddy
Im surprised there wasn't a sin for batman wearing the batsuit, his points were so ignorant
Im also surprised there wasnt a sin for the thug cars in the game being “dc rip offs”.
I'm also suprised that datigan didn't sin everythng in the game for being based on real life
Isn't it obvious, Dartigan is an idiot who's trying to be both funny and complete ignorant.
oh in his marvels spider man video spider man got hit by a crane at maybe 15MPR and he said spider man survives this and counted it as a sin it was so dumb and made me so made
Good thing I never bothered watching Dartigan's content, most if not all of his points seem entirely based on him not paying attention to the game he's playing. Plus what the hell is with all the Robin hate, what did Robin ever do to him?
Your name is hilarious 🤣
His name is Robert
@@christopherbucher7017 a good memory this one has but yet they didn’t mention the 16 dollars that bruce owes clark
Hey maybe Jeremy from CinemaSins should hire him
maybe because he's mostly satire but who knows
51:42 also another point is that Jason saw what Bruce sacrifice in order to save Tim, he even left his most important equipment, his utility belt and give himself to scarecrow just to save the new robin, this probably make Jason realize that Bruce would do anything to save him if he'd know he was alive..
14:30 Not to mention pictures of Batman with Tim literally proved that it happened before the tapes were sent. Obviously Bruce just thought that having a new Robin to help out and possibly find Jason isn’t malicious in anyway, but Jason doesn’t see it that way, especially after having his will and psyche pretty much broken by The Joker.
43:43 It’s also worth mentioning that if they did try to shoot Batman, they run the risk of shooting the Penguin, which means they won’t get their cut. They can’t beat Batman up as well unless they attack as a unit, which still won’t help when Batman has their hands on their boss and will most likely threaten to hurt him if they start to act up.
It’s also worth mentioning that the only gun isn’t pointed at Batman with penguin in his view there 4 directions 2 of which is blocked by Batman with penguin and the other two blocked by some thugs that’s lazy
And attacking Batman while he has one hand on your bosses neck even tho the boss is in no danger will hurt him?😂 lazy again
I guess but isn’t there a large stack of money in that vault
@@Shadowkiller-dq2ju Valid, but everyone would fight over it then. Not unless they decide to make an agreement to make a fair deal, which is unlikely. I do imagine some people getting some of it during the fight and leaving, but I don’t think that actually happened, and they also need a way to get out too, which is possible, but I’m not sure if that’s likely.
I've literally never liked Cinema Sins. They've always been annoying as all hell to me, and I've never understood why they're so popular.
Thank you.
It's because they attempt to justify the stupidest shit possible for all the pretentious losers on Reddit who genuinely believe they can do better with $5 and a string.
Because unlike the ones copying them most of time they are just jokes not actually a critique videos, most of the other channels forget that and try to make it an actual critique videos
Because it’s easier for someone to complain than it is to compliment
@@spaghettisquirrelYT No it's not. That makes no sense.
7:50 Ever notice how when you have a dream and there's something really weird happening in the dream that defies all logic (like someone being alive who died years ago, discovering that you can fly a little bit by just flapping your arms, or having flying towel for a pet), and it makes perfect sense to you WHILE you're in the dream, but not after you wake up? Yeah. That's pretty much what hallucinations are: dreams, except you're still awake.
35:07 How the hell could Batman be expected to know what players would already have deduced based on knowledge of the franchise? Batman isn't Deadpool, so he can't break the fourth wall. At this point he doesn't know that Jason is still alive, and the only "Red Hood" anyone in the continuity of the games knew about had fallen into a vat of chemicals, and never seen again.
Thank you.
good stuff clownpuncher...i will watch this...
to add at 11:30 : the joker Christina bell represents is the obsession with Batman, hence why she seems creepy due to her love with him. to list the others, Albert king (the Goliath) is jokers brutal side, Johnny charisma is the humorous side of joker, and Henry adams is the smart and deceiving side of the joker.
All five jokers show one key aspect of his personality. Christina Bell shows Joker’s obsessive romanticism and fixation on Batman. Albert King represents Joker’s surprising strength, brutality, and resilience (which is why he’s the only actual fight). Johnny Charisma shows Joker’s elaborate, hilarious, and sometimes suicidal showmanship. Henry Adams exudes Joker’s capacity to manipulate, his lethal cunning and intelligence. And finally, Batman himself shows Joker’s pure murderous instinct and ability to kill, which he constantly tries to repress over the entire story
I feel like I am the only person that loves Arkham Knight unconditionally (and as such, the Arkham Knights arc, Scarecrow's role in the story alongside Fear Toxin Joker)
No so do I, I don't really have rhyme or reason, I just do. I know its not better than it's predecessors but I love it more.
I'm right here with you, fam! People get way too harsh on it, kinda like with Origins but not as overly negative as people are towards that one.
I’m here with you guys. I love this game so much. The only thing I don’t like is the deathstroke fight.
Ditto. It’s literally my favorite Batman story of all time.
I personally think it would’ve made a lot more sense if the combination of bat and human DNA was supposed to be for blind people to give them the ability to use bat echolocation
43:30 to add to the point here, just like the Joker makes a point of in either Asylum or City, I can't remember exactly which, you never know when Bats plans to start killing. Especially considering the 50 ton elephant in the room, for all that Militia thug knows, Batman could be about to crush his head like a grape under the tires when he has the information he needs
10:02 I think for that sin it is kinda valid. Even though Henry has access to the bar computer, most if not all things that allow you to change the password require you to input your previous password to confirm it’s you. I’m sure a voice recognition software being used as a password system would require the same thing.
There’s a lot of valid sins to be fair, clown comes off very whiny I get he likes the game but acting like all the games are sinless is just weird and delusional
@@brokenknight4938 he doesn't think Arkham games are sinless, he doesn't critique a lot of the sins in both videos, wich implie he agrees with those
@@Luigi-hn1hu yeah but there are a lot he disagrees with that are reasonable Criticism
@@brokenknight4938 Most of the criticisms I nitpicked in this video were not valid to me, and I provide exactly why when going over the sin. Knight has a LOT of problems that I, and many others, acknowledge. Charriii5 and Dartigan both point out some of these criticisms in their original videos. I did not cover them because they weren’t wrong with the video.
By the way, yeah I’m gonna be weird and delusional in my videos, because I’m a rabid fanboy, stuck playing the same four games all the time, trying to make a point about them. I don’t think these games are sinless, but the sins videos covering them are just wrong half the time. And as the token delusional fanboy in the UA-cam space, I feel it’s my obligation to call them out!
@@ClownPuncher139 fair enough I’m just as obsessed with the games lol I’ve just recently got all the original achievements for Knight, Origins and Asylum and I’m 94% of the way there in city. I did find you nitpicking jokes to be a bit cringey at times and when the argument the person makes isn’t very clearly stated in game it’s fair to sin it in my opinion like I get you wanna plug ur content but not everyone is gonna play these games and watch ur theory which again is a theory and can’t really be stated as fact. Btw I’d also like to introduce a theory of mine to you. It’s on yt but it’s about where Tyger security came from you can link it back to Shiva and Brandon from Origins and all the way to the militia commander and Arkham knight forces especially the ones with detective mode proof camouflage and stuff like that it’s a really fun idea IMO.
it’s satisfying to see how many of these “sins” are so easily debunked with simple logic. goes to show how the majority of them are so lazily thought up.
And some of these are them just talking and making it sins
It’s impressive that dartigan manages to be obnoxious and normal at the same time lol
*ACTUAL SIN* If matter of family takes place before Arkham Asylum, why the hell does Tim have his Arkham Knight suit and not city’s???
True. Plus, his city suit with the hood looks way cooler than this one
8:20 with the Barbra fear toxin scene, yeah, first play through, I saw the world through Batman’s eyes, and I was in tears because all I saw was Barbra kill herself. It took a full play through, a video going over minor details, and watching this scene a dozen times before I could see it rationally, and guess what, IT STILL MAKES ME CRY because this is how you write a story. God I feel sad.
You make a lot of good points defending the game against game sin vids. Also a challenge idea asylum without upgrades. Got the idea I while ago when I beat asylum for the fourth time, because I think asylum is the hardest game in the saga, I would say city is the most balanced out of all plus origins but city is higher because of the bazzare glitches and I don’t know any thing about knight because I don’t have Xbox one /series , ps4 /ps5.
I honestly didn't even see Joker sliding the gun to Barbara on my first playthrough. I was too scared for her, and only looking directly at her
19:10 bro the lighting in the background as Batman grabs a sword looks badass
41:53 the joke there is that out of everything on the floor in the room, Gordon just so happens to step on the one thing that reminded him of Barbara and Gordon being happy, causing his anger to rise even more.
That's just writing, man. Accept symbolism.
Man, I really appreciate this video. People keep hating on Arkham Knight's story, and you mentioned almost every defensive point about it. I hope many people watch this video and realise it wasn't nearly as bad as they thought.
I liked pretty much everything about Arkham Knight including the car and yes i know i will get a ton of hate for liking the Batmobile but it isn't Rocksteady's fault for including it into every part of the game including combat its the fact that players of the franchise begged for it to be a gameplay mechanic since Asylum don't get me wrong i wanted to be able to use the car in gameplay too but not to the point where Rocksteady would feel forced to put it into every part of the game
Every game has flaws they simply point it out flaws are meant to be pointed out and fixed
Batman did find Nora in Arkham City , it is a side mission
Say what you want about Arkham Knight, but this is one of the most detailed games I have ever played. I'm on probably my 5th play through, and I'm still finding new stuff.
Just wait until I make my "Everything wrong with Clownpuncher139's 'Everything Wrong With Every EWW Arkham Knight Video' Video"
Then I'll make
Everything wrong with williamcalhoun883's Everything with Clownpuncher139's 'Everything wrong with every EWW Arkham Knight Video' Video"
Honestly, people ranting about the Batmobile in Knight is funny to me considering those people are the same people asking for the Batmobile and they got so mad over it being in the game a lot
Fr tho, like did you want the car or not ya babies lmao
34:10 This is even more perfect for me because this is exactly what I said at the exact same time in sync with Peter (and I didn't even know that was coming so you basically expressed my exact thought in a meme and I love you for that)
On top of the thing about him not thinking clearly enough to realize that Barb's death wasn't real, He probably just flat out didn't even notice Joker sliding the gun at all, Most players didn't.
44:13 - This just brings up a whole another question in my mind. How is the BatClaw catching his clothes?? The claw doesn't even close to grasp them!
I have to say I disagree with one point: Bruce buying Arkham wouldn’t automatically be suspicious in my opinion. All he has to do is make the case that “we have this vigilante who captures dangerous criminals who endanger our city time and time again. And they always get sent to the same place where nothing ever happens except they come back more dangerous. Surely I’m not the only one sick of this happening. If we can’t do anything about this bat vigilante maybe we can do something to fix part of this broken equation and make Arkham Asylum somewhere more than just a place to heal broken bones from the bat before escaping and starting the cycle all over again!”
i’m pretty sure in asylum there’s a plaque that even says he bought it so it’s a null point from both sides anyways
31:09 Also, he made it perfectly clear that he doesn't give a sh*t who his gas infects specifically; thugs, criminals, fellow rogues, everyone's a test subject to him. His introduction scene in Arkham Asylum shows that.
45:27 Thank you.
also i think there's a conversation between thugs that the gas masks they were / are wearing don't protect them at all.
I dont get what these channels have against women, but I have a feeling it correlates with them all being Cinema Sin knockoff
"Those headphones look like Beats"
You see unlike the batphone, this statement had no point
Tbh the only one I enjoy out of the two is chariii5, he's pretty funny in his other videos and even tho i disagreed with him on arkham knight he is still funny at certain points in my personal opinion. The other guy on the other hand? Seems more nitpicky then other sins channels and he ignores obvious things in the game
Again this is my personal opinion so please don't come at me
I’m the same. Charriii5 at least tried to make valid sins most of the time, and his jokes are pretty funny. Dartigan just keeps sinning the most mundane details about the game that didn’t even matter. He probably had 10 sins that were either valid, or were attempted to be valid. All the rest of the time, he was sinning Bat-phones and the fact that the diner had a 50’s theme. Hence why I sinned at least 75% of his video.
"Sinning "I AM BATMAN"?! That is worth... infinity sins!!"
That line made me spit my water all over my computer screen xD
I don’t know why you’re so good at these “everything wrong with” videos
Slay sum for the other arkham games when??? this series and that one are some of mt faves on the channel
just saying, i never realised joker gave the gun to barbara until my sixth time seeing that cutscene
The bit when he says that Oooh Batman shouldn't blame himself for Joker's death. It's completely in his character to feel this way, hell he blamed himself for Jason's and Barbara's "death" he is a man who intentionally puts himself in harm's Way to save people even when It's debatable if a person he saves is good or bad. So It's dumb for counting this, and pretty much everything he brings up as a game sin.
Did you know that you can actually counter the doctor with the lead pipe in city? The timing is a little tight, and it's especially annoying in New Game +, but it's possible.
I love the Freeze being irrational angle because in City he destroys one of the cures because Nora was taken even though he could've just asked Batman to go find her nicely and he would've returned in like 10 minutes.
Also I'm sorry but I have to sin you right now. Batfleck is a terrible Batman because he FUCKING KILLS PEOPLE! As a supposed massive Batman fan you should know ehy Batfleck is bad.
ClownPuncher: Sinning Arkham Knight Joker is worth ten sins.
Me: INFINITY SINS
Lets not forget that the reason Jason was left in that abandoned wing in arkham is due to the fact that Jason went after Joker after the incident with the kindergarten and Jason, seeing the parents piece their children together, deove him to go after the joker himself. Turning off not only the tracker within his suit, but also the comms unit he had on him, he went to Arkham to confront the Joker and judging by the timeline was sometime shortly before Jokers escape from Arkham Before events prior to Asylum. Jason got captured and due to the people Joker had on their payroll at the Asylum it would be easy to hide him. You can read the story on it in the game, but that was why Jason was abandoned after Joker sent the footage to Batman.
You can see the clear difference between these two videos, one is done for fun and is jokingly poking holes into the plot and the other is just a job
Am I the only one genuinely upset that in the intro game play he didn't save the riddler goon for interrogation 😕
batman here stopping 30 supervillans, getting all of the riddler trophies, and getting his identity revealed all in one night
My only problem was with the batmobile and the riddler but everything else was fun and the graphics for this game was great
I just wish tank battles didn't exist, but I like the idea of the batmobile having it's own grappling hook
I didn’t like the ending
@Bluewolf442 I feel like the ending was very controversial, people either loved it or hated it, I just didn’t like it
@Bluewolf442 also they butchered Jason Todd’s character, and completely changed his entire motivations for the worse, in Under the Red Hood, Red Hood definitely makes some great points about Batman’s morality, in Arkham Knight, not so much, as Joker was already dead
Additionally batman doesn't want Robin to help because he's literally having hallucinations of Jason Todd.
30:37 scarecrow literally said the blast radius would reach to the whole entire east coast of america or something
You know I'm still asking how scarecrow knew what Batman could see cuz oracle's not actually in that room
Oracle got kidnapped, Batman goes to a safehouse to save her, It seems reasonable to assume he's afraid to lose her.
@@jajie-yl4hu the question is how does scarecrow know exactly what Batman is looking at that doesn't answer the question
@@loganboyd6609 The closest explanation I can come up with is that he probably assumed that batmans greatest fear was losing those close to him
@@marclaventure7913 THAT IS NOT A POINT HOW DOSE HE KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE CHAMBER.
@White-Viruz but it's a hallucination thus the fact that it's a live surveillance system is meaningless
New Dartigan Cliche: Dartigan lived before modern times.
i just realised that azreal's voice is the same as aqualad from young justice
Man bat nearly killed me once again 💀
The Arkham series is about villains taken over a part of a city and turning it into a criminal playground
In the tie in comics with the Arkham Verse Barbara actually retired batgirl before she got paralysed
@Dylan Sharp yeah I know but this is prolly canon
3:49 kinda agree, joker should’ve really ended in Arkham city. Giving more screen time for scarecrow
To be fair, there have been a few times Batman's bought or been heavily involved in Arkham management.
Batman of Arkham and the time Wayne Manor had to be Arkham for a while.
I got some news about rocksteady….
I GET KNOCKED DOWN! I GET UP AGAIN, YOU’RE NEVER GONNA BRING ME DOWN!
im gonna be completely honest; ive played through arkham knight a solid 5 or 6 times and never even though about the whole joker sliding the gun to barbara part, thats nuts
Let's also not forget the fact about how Bruce locked Tim up because he cares, it's tough love. Bruce didn't lock Tim up for spotlight but he did it because he knew what Jason went through and didn't want tim getting in the way of a legitimate war zone out there like the mistake he made with the legitimate female who stood beside bruce.
Bruce is selfish. He knew Tim would get in his way. That's why he leaves him locked up after he tells him Barbera is alive. And not nightwing...
@@scotthall2415 Bruce is selfic yes, but he was clearly more concerne that Tim would be reckless and get himself killed after fiding out about Barbasa's "death." THAT is why he locked him up, he doesn't want to lose someone else. He told Dick because he knew he would be more rational about it than Tim.
70% of the sins are just "you sinned this, thats worth a sin"
These guys make some of the worst points ever, it's basically like someone watching this video, saying "youtube video", and disliking it with no other explanation
Watching this video is what it's like to play Arkham knight as two face
Batman created in 1939 me: knowing that in 2039 Batman will be 100 years old. as of writing this it is 2023
15:24 even tho I agree with you that Crane doesn't speak to Bat but to Gordon. Charriii5 pointed out thing I was wondering about. How did crane knew what Bruce saw in this hideout? And how did he set it up
He didnt. He Just put scare gas to the place batman thought Oracle would be.
@@nonamedguy2923 That makes sense when I think about it. Thanks
Bruce Wayne buying Arkham isn’t giving himself away. He can use the excuse of helping the criminally insane and provide them the help they need. So really it’s not giving himself away.
Dartigan is saying that even when going with a helicopter and explosions Scarecrow is still running away aka fleeing not that he literaly is running. For someone who complains about others not paying attention its pretty ironic that you missed this point.
I think this was more a joke than a true point, scarecrow himself was saying he wasn't running which was what clown was referring to. Your point is valid scarecrow is fleeing aka running but I think clown was taking a cheap jab at dartigans point kinda like dartigans jabs at the TV screens and beats, not necessarily meant to be taken too serious but still there, but I could totally be wrong
When they sinned Jason Todds cutscenes. Istg it made so mad, and I can't tell if it's because I'm biased, or if it's genuinely just a good cutscene
6:48 I'm sure thats not the only thing he doesn't understand
Imagine making fun of another person's intelligence when you used bad grammar and forgot an entire word in your simple sentence.
I just found this channel rather recently but it’s one of my new favorites. I love the introspection you take to these games. I’d love to see you do some actual sins of the rest of the games like you did with Arkham City. As someone who’s been too depressed to do much else lately, your videos have been a fun reprieve from that so thank you. Keep up the great work.
One of my favorite Batman Arkham games 🎮
I really u like your version more then the others can't wait to see you do the other two Arkham games keep up the great content definitely subscribing
29:59 So you say that the people we see in this scene are the 6.3 million people that live in Gotham , and did you forget that there are 3 islands in this city ?
Fair point, but if that many people are looking at a single Jumbotron then do you really think there are a lot of those screens. Plus they are all basically in the middle of a street that goes far back. Thousands of people could stand looking at that one Jumbotron. And based on those building placements, then even more people could see the Jumbotron from their windows or rooftops.
Seeing you defend my personal favorite installment of the series makes me so happy, now I know what to say in response to criticisms!
Making the I am Batman part a sin!?
The that guy never in his live has watch the animated series and the most memorable moment of them all, infinite sins
Arkham Origins multiplayer's Robin was Dick Grayson NOT Jason Todd.
That’s what I thought too
You did not fight the Grundy inmates, you got spotted in the first 5 seconds, you knocked out the Riddler goon, and you got spotted by the last enemy, that be 4 sins
3:26 i think Robin gave up too easily there
4:33 only way he could get Jim in is by forcing him which could damage their relationship
6:29 Hell Henry Cavill tested that out RIGHT NEXT TO A SUPERMAN BILLBOARD. Most failed
8:27 I damn sure didn't notice it. Sure I had partial doubts, but only partial
11:52 IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. THAT'S WHY IT'S STILL FUN TO HAVE IT THERE
17:02 Doctors have been doing this for centuries. Hell Penicillin came by accident
18:38 I mean let's be honest, we all thought about leaving him
19:44 I mean they should have shown more anyway. A crazy guy with good combat skills and a decent sense of morale is all that's shown. Is he good at stealth? No killing? Crimes in the past? I expected more
22:06 Anyone else wish we got that suit in Arkham Knight as a skin?
25:17 Already addressed this. People don't notice the obvious as easily as you think. Even Batman didn't in City
Can’t wait for asylum and origins version.blow my mind
I feel that sinning Poison Ivy for being overly sexy is fair. Dartigan just doesn't sin the problem itself, and sins something she does, which doesn't make sense.
Well at that point, it’s just criticizing the character herself, not the game of Arkham Knight. And, again, being overly-sexualized is an integral part of her character.
@@ClownPuncher139 Good point. I still do think that Arkham Knight didn't portray female characters as well as City did.
@@ClownPuncher139 their entire gimmick is doing what CinemaSins does 2 movies but applying it to video games and so there's sometimes doing a bunch of bulshit to pad the sin count
@@adamnielson42 the big dump truck Harley packs had to be a secret implementation I know it
Ah yes, but Asylum Harley is perfectly OK
42:18 I'll say something about this since in literally every medium, Robin is seen as a surrogate SON for Batman, no matter who's behind the mask. Granted, Tim had a family outside of Bruce for a while after becoming Robin, but we don't know if that's the case in this universe, so for all we know, Tim could be orphaned already and living with Bruce as his ward. Basically what I'm saying is this joke isn't funny and it's the equivalent of making said joke about a father and son.
51:08 Bro did not let that slide 💀💀💀💀💀
52:07 Oh man. Calling out a new trilogy-baiting that never happened and ending on that was just *chef's kiss* icing on the cake. I laughed, I cringed, I can't believe these dumb sins videos exist. But the best part is when they say something so unbelievably stupid to make you angry. I couldn't contain myself after the third joke about nobody wanting Robin in the game when one of my biggest issues with Knight was that I wished we had the opportunity to freely switch between the Bat-family like in City with Catwoman and Batman.
The way you say some things I can definitely tell were inspired by Birdman
Correctness is you.
51:02 - LMAO, when Batman was about to say "I'm Batman!" my headphones suddenly spoke up and said _"Battery-Low"_ .
I'm new to this channel but videos like this are pure catharsis ;)
Ok now I’m going to debunk one of your points
The robin that was in Arkham origins multiplayer was actually dick Grayson not Jason Todd
i mean we'll never know, cuz the arkham origin robin suit kinda looks like jason but HEY we'll never know.
holy shitt imagine watching a movie with this sin guy
An idea! Can you beat the Arkham games without countering? (I know you have to counter at some points like for Ra’s or Deathstroke but make a counter counter kinda like for the no grapnel challenge.) Also I tried to do this and failed miserably lol.
You can definitely beat Arkham Knight without countering. I got a combo of 121 by just punching, special combo moving, and vaulting. The same can not be said for Arkham Origins though. Those enemies do not telegraph their punches at all so you can kiss beating their punches with yours goodbye. I learned to counter in Origins the hard way
I have to heavily disagree with your assessment that Bruce Wayne buying and reforming Arkham Asylum would out his identity as Batman. I bet every citizen of Gotham who isn’t a criminal would want Arkham to be reformed into an actually effective institution, and Bruce has spent tons of money in the past on projects that benefit the public. I know for a fact that if I lived in Gotham and Wayne started fixing Arkham my first thought would be “About time, good going Bruce!” and not “Wait a minute, the only person in this city who would want the supervillains to stop being supervillains is Batman!”