Everything about that scene, was done to a level we just are not seeing in shows anymore. Every second of that, the acting, framing, isolation of it was cutting. Even if you were not a star trek fan, knowing all the references? You got what this scene was about.
The acting was good, execution,... not so sure. First off, the battle of Wolf 359 happened decades ago by this point, and given what kind of councillors and equipment Starfleet has, for Shaw to so strongly still cling to that moment (however tragic) is a tad obscene. Plus, Shaw also incorrectly described Picard as if he willingly gave all the information he had to the Borg... while the reality was that Picard was mentally and physically abused and invaded to the point where everything he was was taken by the Borg without his consent. There was another character who blamed Picard in the same manner if I'm not mistaken... and all I have to say is: it was a tragedy, Picard can't be blamed for the atrocities committed by the Borg... also, it was reiterated MANY times that people who sign up for Starfleet service know that it comes with the possibility of being killed in the line of duty. And no, I'm not trying to marginalize what happened... I lived through a war myself as a kid... but the way some writers seemingly want to inject ridiculously unstable characters into the show is preposterous. For crying out loud, Picard needed some time to get over what was done to him... and while yes the experience stayed with him, he still pretty much came back from that.
It is cutting that the Borg did become more of a threat when Locutus was created, all those access codes, secrets, used against the organisation that Picard swore to protect and Shaw in this scene makes that point, which I didn't realise until now, giving him a name, instead of just a designation did do that
When I watched this, I always wondered how such a seemingly unstable individual was able to get his own ship. Picard was able to recover far quicker than Shaw, and he was actually assimilated. At this point, I can't seem to shake the feeling that writers are trying to portray these overly dramatized characters to give some more impact to certain scenes, just for the sake of it. And there are more than a few people who get over PTSD successfully... the UFP with its advancements, medical knowledge and councillors would be able to help people like Shaw. Heck, the crew of VOyager went through some serious ordeal during their 7 years in the DQ being cut off from the Alpha Quadrant as a whole.... and they (pretty much all) turned out fine... WITHOUT having a councillor aboard.
@@deksroning125I appreciate the fact that this Star Trek actually addressed PTSD issues and mental health issues which is important to this very day. Yes, Star Trek supposed to be in the future where things are supposed to be better, but one of the things that even in 1960s original series did was use iconic characters to help ongoing problems of our time. Mental health and PTSD and trauma are still a big problem, so I'm glad that Star Trek continues to do things that are dealing with us 💯☑️✅
@@justiceriser8970to some degree you would be right, Not everybody's a fan of Voyager, but there was an episode. They gave a small brief history about the Borg however, it really did not go into detail of how they grew into such a powerful empire so fast. Quantum leap words just cannot describe the Borg advancements 🤔💯☑️
Which is also really weird because the battle of Wolf 359 happened decades ago. Given the councillors Starfleet has at its disposal, etc. one would think Shaw would have gotten over that tragic incident by this time. PIC S3 did a lot of stuff ok, but it also missed the mark a bit, and while Shaw as a whole is not a bad character, kinda detest the premise that Picard and Janeway seemed like only captains that seemingly uphold the actual principles and ideals of the Federation... while others are.... eh, borderline.
Everything about that scene, was done to a level we just are not seeing in shows anymore.
Every second of that, the acting, framing, isolation of it was cutting. Even if you were not a star trek fan, knowing all the references? You got what this scene was about.
The acting was good, execution,... not so sure.
First off, the battle of Wolf 359 happened decades ago by this point, and given what kind of councillors and equipment Starfleet has, for Shaw to so strongly still cling to that moment (however tragic) is a tad obscene.
Plus, Shaw also incorrectly described Picard as if he willingly gave all the information he had to the Borg... while the reality was that Picard was mentally and physically abused and invaded to the point where everything he was was taken by the Borg without his consent.
There was another character who blamed Picard in the same manner if I'm not mistaken... and all I have to say is: it was a tragedy, Picard can't be blamed for the atrocities committed by the Borg... also, it was reiterated MANY times that people who sign up for Starfleet service know that it comes with the possibility of being killed in the line of duty.
And no, I'm not trying to marginalize what happened... I lived through a war myself as a kid... but the way some writers seemingly want to inject ridiculously unstable characters into the show is preposterous.
For crying out loud, Picard needed some time to get over what was done to him... and while yes the experience stayed with him, he still pretty much came back from that.
It is cutting that the Borg did become more of a threat when Locutus was created, all those access codes, secrets, used against the organisation that Picard swore to protect and Shaw in this scene makes that point, which I didn't realise until now, giving him a name, instead of just a designation did do that
I dont know much about ptsd but ive read that some with it are praising shaws acting in this scene, i can feel his pain, it gives me chills.
When I watched this, I always wondered how such a seemingly unstable individual was able to get his own ship.
Picard was able to recover far quicker than Shaw, and he was actually assimilated.
At this point, I can't seem to shake the feeling that writers are trying to portray these overly dramatized characters to give some more impact to certain scenes, just for the sake of it.
And there are more than a few people who get over PTSD successfully... the UFP with its advancements, medical knowledge and councillors would be able to help people like Shaw.
Heck, the crew of VOyager went through some serious ordeal during their 7 years in the DQ being cut off from the Alpha Quadrant as a whole.... and they (pretty much all) turned out fine... WITHOUT having a councillor aboard.
@@deksroning125I appreciate the fact that this Star Trek actually addressed PTSD issues and mental health issues which is important to this very day.
Yes, Star Trek supposed to be in the future where things are supposed to be better, but one of the things that even in 1960s original series did was use iconic characters to help ongoing problems of our time. Mental health and PTSD and trauma are still a big problem, so I'm glad that Star Trek continues to do things that are dealing with us 💯☑️✅
Captain Shaw spoke for every being in the Galaxy devastated by the Borg.
And we still have no idea who the borg were
@@justiceriser8970to some degree you would be right, Not everybody's a fan of Voyager, but there was an episode. They gave a small brief history about the Borg however, it really did not go into detail of how they grew into such a powerful empire so fast. Quantum leap words just cannot describe the Borg advancements 🤔💯☑️
Can we say post-traumatic stress disorder?
Which is also really weird because the battle of Wolf 359 happened decades ago.
Given the councillors Starfleet has at its disposal, etc. one would think Shaw would have gotten over that tragic incident by this time.
PIC S3 did a lot of stuff ok, but it also missed the mark a bit, and while Shaw as a whole is not a bad character, kinda detest the premise that Picard and Janeway seemed like only captains that seemingly uphold the actual principles and ideals of the Federation... while others are.... eh, borderline.