The question with all these is when I break something can I get that broken part. As good as some of these can be it's getting parts that matters the most.
It depends where you are because these aren't stocked in your local hobby shop, so you'll probably have to order the parts offline. Some of them you can get parts off of Amazon. Some of them you got to wait for them to come from China. I've had great luck with a lot of like the WL toy stuff, but if you crash a lot or break a certain piece a lot, you definitely want it to have spares. That is one big advantage to like Traxxas say what you want about them, but you can walk into a just about any hobby shop anywhere and get a control arm for a stampede
@@masjuggaloI have the wl toys 124019 and i love it. Mostly front axle breaks and I just keep some around. Only $3 e and easy to change. They only break when u wreck hard or bash/jump the hell outta it.
You can now buy this as a kit for your WLToys 144001 / 144010. You get the bumper, body, wing and tyres. I got mine all in delivered for about £11 to the UK from China.
Whats funny is a set of 4 cheap offbrand oil filled shocks are 10 to 20 bucks. No way they cant get cheaper in bulk, so ya charge me 115 dollars instead of 100...... Lol
It’s these cheaper cars that can damage the hobby the most, I’ve seen it in multiple towns where a shop will set up and sell the junk that filters out into the population and essentially ruining the impression of the hobby. The low quality and poor support often turns people away from the hobby, yeah a quality kit costs big but over time? It’s actually cheaper to own a higher quality product over time
I doubt it, because it would be reflected in the price, and thus their expectations. If theres only $200+ rtrs and no ones seen a video of a hobby grade rc, then much less ppl buy. I dont think someone who dors a blind impulse buy at some rundown shop, and also not look it up online about it. What ultimately gets bulk amount of ppl in hobby is friends getting into it, being at the park and onlookers noticing, youtube and viral vids, online shops like amazon, and low price but highest quality at each price point (i.e. udirc and hbx make GREAT rcs for $50 plus and yet below $100), arrma and mjx make good mini bashers under $150, and etc. And when theyre mini and plastic and light (and slow brushed, if one wants that), thats why theyre known to be indestructible (and can get parts support online) even comparatively to the maxx and ta mt10
Don't get me wrong, I'm new to RC and nitro is gonna be my first. But look and see if they have repair kits or upgrades first, that way we know we can repair it. Wltoy upgrade kits fit a ton of RCs but ppl don't check first
I put oil shock on 4 of my pine cone UDi 1/16ths and wow it makes them better. Companies will sell more if they got the clue we want OIL FILLED SHOCKS……. And extra tires would be nice as well.
This platform is used in quite a few brands from what I've seen. That center shaft with the spur gear is about £10 to replace and no matter what grease you use or how you pack it in there, the pinion always ends up chewing up the spur gear eventually. Shame because other than that it's good for the price but spending ten quid every time it does this is a game breaker.
I think I've been conditioned to expect disaster, when you're hauling to the end of that little cul de sac. Dramatic tension, some lovely slo-mo, and upgrades too? Sir, you spoil us!
Hey tomley, i got a hbx ravage, but something screwed up so we refunded it, in case they give me back my money, do you know something good under 130€? It can be little bit bigger like 1:14 or 1:12 ( maybe even 1:10)
I think it's a nice little basher... I'm always weary of buying chinese knock off rc..., to be fair on the shock absorbers, it did say Metal Spring Shock Absorbers and the ''spring'' is metal. they are very clever on how they word the description. & yes, I agree, in 2023 these should come with oil filled dampers, my Tamiya MKII Escort badly needed oil dampers which I upgraded before I even put a battery in it.
Arrma would take over easily or maybe they should buy smaller popular budget companies like hyper go, wltoys, or hbx and employ them to handle the smaller line of arrma cars but let them have their own designs to go with it that can later be copied to larger 8 and 5th scale cars in the future
@@TomleyRC Keeps the price down and if you want to spend the upgrade money you can. I’ve a TT02 that I’ve upgraded and it’s such a fun car to drive. Bang for your buck! Loving the channel Phil. Been watching for a couple of years now.
i tried changing the oil out of my mjx 14209 rear shocks and stock oil was super thick, like diff oil. i put 80wt oil in them and it was like water. do you know what they have in them stock? (14209 rear shocks).
The "MJX 16208 16209 HYPER GO 1/16 Brushless High Speed RC Car Vechile Models 45km/h - Blue 2" you recommended in the description looks tempting to get. Does that have oil shocks?
I thought you were going to put oil filled shox on it? I was wondering... I have a brushed wltoys 14401 the engine calved and I haven't switched it to brushless yet. So I have a nice set of small oil filled just sitting around. Do you think they would fit? If so I may get this little ripper. But I still never checked the one that you said was even better. I just like the fact the the esc is good enough to recognize 3s.
The Oil filled shocks are not much better! I have a HSP buggy and I resin printed some shock pistons with better bore tolerance and 5 small holes and now I can actually call them dampers instead of oil filled bicycle pumps 😂
Phill did you actually expect the sharks that came on it see if they could be filled with oil I mean why go through the trouble of making an aluminum body friction shock. Maybe they just needed to be filled that you actually take the shocks apart and inspect them see if they were oil shocks I mean made such a big deal over it
My mjx arrived yesterday, its a beast. havent tried 3s yet but anything that you know I should order before something breaks? Got it off Aliexpress for $65 on summer sale!! As always, great vid phil!
I got a like a 62000kv inrunner 380 diameter motor from a EDF that I crashed... I'm really good at crashing planes and helicopters and quadcopters anything that flies
There is something odd about the look, the body really doesn't fit the chassis does it? Anyway thank you for another great video. I watch your channel quite often and appreciate you very much.
@@phorphucksake it cant be a knockoff because Arrma dont make an Outcast that small, plus he calls it an "Arrma" outcast in the tittle not an outcast knockoff, he is basically saying he bought an outcast made by Arrma from wish in the CLICKBAIT tittle. how do you not see this?
I bet you get about 2 mins run time with that battery they sent. Another cobbled together parts bin job by the manufacturer . People will keep buying this sort of stuff thinking they’re getting something new though so who’s the fools
For the price that doesn't seem like a bad little truck mate. The difference the Oil shocks make is insane.
The question with all these is when I break something can I get that broken part. As good as some of these can be it's getting parts that matters the most.
It depends where you are because these aren't stocked in your local hobby shop, so you'll probably have to order the parts offline. Some of them you can get parts off of Amazon. Some of them you got to wait for them to come from China. I've had great luck with a lot of like the WL toy stuff, but if you crash a lot or break a certain piece a lot, you definitely want it to have spares. That is one big advantage to like Traxxas say what you want about them, but you can walk into a just about any hobby shop anywhere and get a control arm for a stampede
Generally for these cheap ones you’ll be Hank g to order online
You order 3 at a time...that's what I do lol never need to order parts
@@masjuggalo *online
@@masjuggaloI have the wl toys 124019 and i love it. Mostly front axle breaks and I just keep some around. Only $3 e and easy to change. They only break when u wreck hard or bash/jump the hell outta it.
You can now buy this as a kit for your WLToys 144001 / 144010. You get the bumper, body, wing and tyres. I got mine all in delivered for about £11 to the UK from China.
Oh… nice!
I’ve got the same kit and was really impressed so got another kit for one of my highly upgraded 144001. It completely changed the vehicle.
Whats funny is a set of 4 cheap offbrand oil filled shocks are 10 to 20 bucks. No way they cant get cheaper in bulk, so ya charge me 115 dollars instead of 100...... Lol
Yeah, it would hardly cost them anymore 🤷🏼♂️
Lock, stock and 2 smoking barrels, one of my favorites
😎🤘
1 of the 2 classics....that and snatch.....can't watch them too many times......
It’s these cheaper cars that can damage the hobby the most, I’ve seen it in multiple towns where a shop will set up and sell the junk that filters out into the population and essentially ruining the impression of the hobby. The low quality and poor support often turns people away from the hobby, yeah a quality kit costs big but over time? It’s actually cheaper to own a higher quality product over time
I doubt it, because it would be reflected in the price, and thus their expectations. If theres only $200+ rtrs and no ones seen a video of a hobby grade rc, then much less ppl buy. I dont think someone who dors a blind impulse buy at some rundown shop, and also not look it up online about it.
What ultimately gets bulk amount of ppl in hobby is friends getting into it, being at the park and onlookers noticing, youtube and viral vids, online shops like amazon, and low price but highest quality at each price point (i.e. udirc and hbx make GREAT rcs for $50 plus and yet below $100), arrma and mjx make good mini bashers under $150, and etc. And when theyre mini and plastic and light (and slow brushed, if one wants that), thats why theyre known to be indestructible (and can get parts support online) even comparatively to the maxx and ta mt10
Blinking Heck! Cracking mini Outcast replica and what a difference with the stickers in place.
Don't get me wrong, I'm new to RC and nitro is gonna be my first. But look and see if they have repair kits or upgrades first, that way we know we can repair it. Wltoy upgrade kits fit a ton of RCs but ppl don't check first
Oh, pretty nice little truck, Phil! 😃
Not bad at all!!!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
It’s crazy how well your video production has come. From the cuts to the funny’s. You need to troll Kev more to add some of Kevs subscribers.
You haven't notice recent videos with both Phil an Kev in them?
I put oil shock on 4 of my pine cone UDi 1/16ths and wow it makes them better. Companies will sell more if they got the clue we want OIL FILLED SHOCKS……. And extra tires would be nice as well.
This platform is used in quite a few brands from what I've seen. That center shaft with the spur gear is about £10 to replace and no matter what grease you use or how you pack it in there, the pinion always ends up chewing up the spur gear eventually. Shame because other than that it's good for the price but spending ten quid every time it does this is a game breaker.
I think I've been conditioned to expect disaster, when you're hauling to the end of that little cul de sac.
Dramatic tension, some lovely slo-mo, and upgrades too? Sir, you spoil us!
haha, anything over 50 mph and it's a close call.
Hey tomley, i got a hbx ravage, but something screwed up so we refunded it, in case they give me back my money, do you know something good under 130€? It can be little bit bigger like 1:14 or 1:12 ( maybe even 1:10)
I think it's a nice little basher... I'm always weary of buying chinese knock off rc..., to be fair on the shock absorbers, it did say Metal Spring Shock Absorbers and the ''spring'' is metal. they are very clever on how they word the description. & yes, I agree, in 2023 these should come with oil filled dampers, my Tamiya MKII Escort badly needed oil dampers which I upgraded before I even put a battery in it.
Oil dampers make such a difference
Looks like you've had better weather than what we've had back home 😂 that's a little ripper!
Yes haha… true story!
I am thinking of buying the Associated reflex 14MT do you recommend this or is there better I am looking for a small basher
That bouncy bouncy super suspension. EPIC
lock stock and two smoking barrels I LOVE THAT MOVIE
Love the slo mo jump 👌 cool truck 👍👍😎
I think Arrma should build/brand their own smaller scale trucks. Obviously there's a market for them. They're getting "copied" already.
Arrma would take over easily or maybe they should buy smaller popular budget companies like hyper go, wltoys, or hbx and employ them to handle the smaller line of arrma cars but let them have their own designs to go with it that can later be copied to larger 8 and 5th scale cars in the future
@@fiercetatsu6782 yes. Exactly.
The base design was like that of a Xmaxx or that line? I like Gmade shocks.
How could they be your tracks? Doesn't it rain like 364 days out of a year? I mean, obviously you get 1 good day.
I appreciate the reviews I'd budget RCs!
Couldn't quite tell-combined ESC/receiver, or separate?
Good question… I think it was a combined one
Don't think I ever seen aluminum friction shocks before , I'm shocked 😂
Friction dampers🙈.
Great video‼️👍👍🦾🦾🤘🤘
Yeah.. grrrrr
Too cool!!!!!!! Will you be giving Rlaarlo's new goodies a whirl? I hear whispers of some news coming on September 15th!
How does this compare to the 144010 with the outcast conversion kit?
I like it were did you get the first set of wheels and tires you shown I think when I order mine I’m gonna get the same wheels pretty cool.
I feel let down by prices in only $ and not £ as well. Especially for a UK channel
$ is the most common currency world wide, and only 15% of my audience are from the UK.
Just go to the drop down at the top, click more. Then all links will be in UK £ sterling. Job done
Hello can you tell me if the steering and throtle are responsive? Unlike some wltoys and mjx.
Such a great looking plane truck
We’ve been asking Tamiya for oil shocks since the 80’s. 2023, mostly no.
Yeah, Tamiya have 'Grandfather Rights'.... hence they still give us plastic bushings haha
@@TomleyRC Keeps the price down and if you want to spend the upgrade money you can. I’ve a TT02 that I’ve upgraded and it’s such a fun car to drive. Bang for your buck! Loving the channel Phil. Been watching for a couple of years now.
@@phookit2 cheers dude, thanks for sticking around
i tried changing the oil out of my mjx 14209 rear shocks and stock oil was super thick, like diff oil. i put 80wt oil in them and it was like water. do you know what they have in them stock? (14209 rear shocks).
The "MJX 16208 16209 HYPER GO 1/16 Brushless High Speed RC Car Vechile Models 45km/h - Blue 2" you recommended in the description looks tempting to get. Does that have oil shocks?
Yes, I have 2 or 3 videos on them
I thought you were going to put oil filled shox on it? I was wondering... I have a brushed wltoys 14401 the engine calved and I haven't switched it to brushless yet. So I have a nice set of small oil filled just sitting around. Do you think they would fit? If so I may get this little ripper. But I still never checked the one that you said was even better. I just like the fact the the esc is good enough to recognize 3s.
I did… maybe you skipped the end of the video 😅
What are your thoughts about the scy 16101pro? Looks similar.
The Oil filled shocks are not much better! I have a HSP buggy and I resin printed some shock pistons with better bore tolerance and 5 small holes and now I can actually call them dampers instead of oil filled bicycle pumps 😂
Did you even think to see if they got seals n just gotta fill the shocks😊
Did you say brushless ESC?
Phill did you actually expect the sharks that came on it see if they could be filled with oil I mean why go through the trouble of making an aluminum body friction shock. Maybe they just needed to be filled that you actually take the shocks apart and inspect them see if they were oil shocks I mean made such a big deal over it
They have a screw through the top holding the cap on, that's usually a sign that they will not hold oil
I've gotta get one of those Cheapos!! Just trying to wait for the right one.
MJX linked in the description is a solid choice
Man that's a cool watch. I remember my history teacher having the same one.
Looks like a good little ripper for a newbie or young lad just starting out....
Was that sally B she’s just been over to France I think , definitely a b-17
Don't get me wrong, love the videos, you keep them good for new and older
Wl toys have the body set for the 140010
Mini outcast, not too bad for the money
Yes 👌
The hyper go for like $20 has all the bits this thing needs
That's a decent skatepark with grass landings 👍🏼
Yeah, it’s not a big one, but the landings are a bit softer 😅
When will they learn, oil shocks for the win !
Looks fun.
It was 😀
Also a question which one would you buy? The hyper go or wltoys 144010?
Hyper Go
My mjx arrived yesterday, its a beast. havent tried 3s yet but anything that you know I should order before something breaks? Got it off Aliexpress for $65 on summer sale!! As always, great vid phil!
All right, son; roll them guns up, count the money, and put your seat belt on.
haha
LET'S GO 🔥
😎🤘
I got a like a 62000kv inrunner 380 diameter motor from a EDF that I crashed... I'm really good at crashing planes and helicopters and quadcopters anything that flies
Me too 😅
decent truck for the Money!
Yeah not bad, MJX is a better choice though
Looks well good
Looks decent for the money 👌🏻
Yeah, although I’d get an MJX… same price I think
@@TomleyRC yeah fair point. Slightly out of context but, 1/24 scale beginner Crawler, tight budget, what gets your money? Axial AX24?
FMS FCX24 or an Axial SCX24....
Can't believe no oil shocks.
There is something odd about the look, the body really doesn't fit the chassis does it? Anyway thank you for another great video. I watch your channel quite often and appreciate you very much.
I think the Velcro lifts it off a little
when are you going to hang out with Kev again?
Not sure... he's a couple of hrs away.. and we are both pretty busy :)
The 'wing' is called a spoiler
hey dude........😄............NICE VIDEO 👍😉
Cheers dude
well done
looks like an arrma has the bottom of a maxx/xmaxx
And the body comes off each crash like the Maxx bros.
Looks like they blew the budget putting a half decent little brushless motor in.. Shame cos it does look like a cool little truck.
LANCASTER!
Yes… the Battle of Britain Sqn operate close by
I just bought something similar that looks like a kraton from Temu just for shits and giggles 🤣
haha.. might be good!
I’d rather buy this over any other small rc that thing took almost all of it and doesn’t wobble like the erevo
TY Phil , after a my shit day youv turned it to bleach 😂 im seriose you make my day ty
No probs dude...... glad you enjoyed it
Is that a Nissan pulsar gtr in the pic
Don’t think so
@@TomleyRC or a mk1 civic
So......for the future...when no oil shocks are present,make sure you include oil and no oil performance...eh!
skate park section of the video is with oil shocks....
What you expect for cheap money and from Wish?
it looks more like notorious
Outcast
My 8 year old rc has oil shocks lol
that tittle tho, just because the body looks like an Outcast we get a clickbait tittle, keep it real tomley or you will lose respect
How is it clickbait? It has WISH in the title so you should know it's a knock-off.
@@phorphucksake it cant be a knockoff because Arrma dont make an Outcast that small, plus he calls it an "Arrma" outcast in the tittle not an outcast knockoff, he is basically saying he bought an outcast made by Arrma from wish in the CLICKBAIT tittle. how do you not see this?
Looks like an Arrma and crashes like a traxxas. Those who have one know.
helo
Hello
WL 144010 kills these
W toys 124019 is badass too
I bet you get about 2 mins run time with that battery they sent. Another cobbled together parts bin job by the manufacturer . People will keep buying this sort of stuff thinking they’re getting something new though so who’s the fools
Got about 15 mins run time on the stock battery, a little more on the lipo
@@TomleyRC 15mins is acceptable I guess I’ll let them off 😂
Its 3x the price its worth. Its a no from me dawg.
233th
😅
Tarvii vähän paremmat renkaat
Lol that's not arrma or a outkast
I‘m the first one 🎉😂
Na
no one cares sod off
🥉
Chinese junk 😂
First
no one cares sod off
🥇
Why is my he box rainbow looking....? Maybe the toy companies are LGBQ++1+1= HE SHE GROUP friendly
first
no one cares sod off
5th 😅