Eric Dickerson describing first meeting with David Stanley, the primary informant on the booster payoff scandal at SMU from the late 70's to the mid 80's
David Stanley turned out to be a total failure in life and dropped dead of a drug abuse problem at 41 while Eric “not that big” Dickerson went on to the HoF and is a legend
Passed away in his sleep, it’s never been verified it’s from drug abuse, although it’s very likely. I did research on it for a video I made on my channel, couldn’t find anything that said it was a direct result of drug use but I’d say it’s probably likely.
Eric Dickerson was right on target about David Stanley. Even one of his former teammates said he did not do much to help the team and was always injured.
What an idiot Stanley was. You’re on a recruiting trip, you meet the best player to ever play at that school, and you repeatedly insult the guy and try to demean him. I wish ED would have laid him out. SMU should have listened to Eric.
When you are drugged up and unstable, you probably don't care what an Eric Dickerson says. And when you have a illegal culture like at SMU that becomes paranoid, you more than likely are looking to cover your behind and dump the dirt.....!
David Stanley and his mother tried to come off like poor, unsuspecting victims when they were in on the take, too--which makes them just as dirty. If they were concerned about 'doing the right thing' then the first thing they should have done was come up with the dirty money they took, give it back, and THEN go to the NCAA. Taking the goods and then snitching smacks of payback. If SMU got the hit, David Stanley and his family should have gotten hit, too. The snitching was a punk move.
True but SMU should have let him finish college and his degree rather than toss him out. SMU didn't believe they owed Stanley anything so why would he feel he owed SMU his silence
It doesn't matter. As was stated in the documentary, when a dirty school pays off a player, the player actually owns them, not the other way around. Just like what was stated about A&M getting ED a gold Trans-Am but not commiting to them. "Hey, we bribed that kid, and he's not honoring the bribe!". Who exactly can the school complain to without incriminating themselves? These matters weren't about righteousness. They're about leverage.
I'm a Longhorn fan, but I like Eric Dickerson. He's got class, and brains - he's not just a dumb jock. Too bad that our POS booster turned Eric off to UT.
@@ddave7026 As a side note, I grew up in Dallas and I've eaten in Campisi's a few times. It's a Dallas landmark. One of their children Denise Campisi was in my high school class, but I didn't know her.
@uponthisrock32 I never liked Eric Dickerson but he earned the right to talk like that. He's in the HOF now as well so double bragging rights and double respect.
He knows he broke the rules. He knew he wouldn't play football again, but he still wanted to at least get his college degree. They wouldn't even let him do that. And since they didn't, he decided to take them down, even if it meant going down with them.
One more thing, I don't blame Eric Dickeron one bit for getting David Stanley's face. I can't see an NFL player taking crap from a high school player. Dickerson straight-up owned Stanley that night.
Yes, you expect him to shut up and do nothing. He broke the rules also and accepted the money. After that you just disappear.You don't accept the money then rat out the people who gave it to you.
Yeah Stanley was a snitch and snake but SMU should have just let him finish his degree. He would have been out of their hair but they had to be stupid and stubborn.
At 1:06 minutes into the 30 for 30 documentary, there is a newspaper clipping that says David Stanley is 6-3 not 6-0 as ED states. So they were both the same size as DS implied, but why DS thinks 6-3 is not "big" I don't understand.
@clipobserver Dickerson said, do not recruit this guy!!!. Why? He was no good. Meaning, he won't play along with our rules. This statement by Dickerson, while not conclusive, shows that there was a culture of cheating going on at SMU. WTF is Dickerson around in 83/84 recruiting on behalf of SMU. No one seems to ask that question. He and James are dirty. If David Stanley got 25k to sign, what did Dickerson and James get??? Million dollar question!!!
If SMU had just let David Stanley come back to school to finish up school so he could get his degree, none of this would have happened. This kid is getting paid money, and you expect him not to do anything after the school shunned him after his stint in rehab. Not letting him come back was the worst thing SMU could do, and it came back to bite them in their ass.
I think this (Stanley trying to return to SMU) is the biggest bunch of BS in the entire story. I don't believe Stanley EVER even ATTEMPTED to complete his education at any time. As far as I know, he never graduated from anywhere. He died in 2005 from a drug overdose and its far more likely that the last 20 years of his life was a lot like the year and a half that he spent at SMU: in a drug induced stupor. He would have spilled the beans at some point. Even if he hadn't, the story would have come out sooner or later. There were too many with their hands in the pot. Stanley played ONE year for SMU, he was terrible, and he couldn't stay clean or sober. They had no reason to continue to pay for his schooling, and even if they had, he wouldn't have graduated anyway.
All it woulda done was delay the inevitable...even if Stanley never went to SMU, or if he had never snitched...with as much money as had been changing hands inside SMU football during that time, there was BOUND to be someone who at any given time received the short end of the stick somehow, and was marginalized/malcontented enough to snitch.
Tell me about it. Stupid move by SMU. I guarantee you if they had let him get his degree, more likely than not, they wouldn't have gotten the death penalty.
@@johngonzalez6690 Maybe so, for that time, but you can’t guarantee that with every player that comes through the program. Someone is bound to open their mouth. It would have happened eventually.
@gochr1s I agree Mr.Eric Dickerson may have been an running back but I have seen many Running Backs make names for themselves by knocking down giant linebackers with their speed and power. Eric would have made anyone who pissed him off sorry that they did. I love that comeback of you're in high school boy I play in the NFL. You have to be a bad ass in the NFL and with that line Mr.Eric Dickerson was bad ass
Hell no , who cares in what circumstances you grow up in, you don't pull that shit - he was obviously a "bad dude" doesn't matter where you grow up. He was just pissed his football career didn't pan out
@uponthisrock32 David Stanley got 25k to sign. Dickerson and James got zero! RIGHT!!!!! Dickerson say in the same clip, those guys at SMU know how to hide it all. They are really good at hiding it. Texas A & M, not so much with the new car. This is sickening.
Problem here is Dickerson never revealed what he got from SMU and states "it's a dead subject", but he's got no problem discussing what A&M or Oklahoma or UT offered.
Dickerson is 6'3" and Stanley was 6'0". How come they didn't listen to their biggest name in the program (well one of them at least)? Also Dickerson said he wasn't going to talk about what he got. Meaning he got some gifts.
@losangelescardinals still you don't pay players and Stanley was more like a scorned lover. So when SMU screwed him in his mind then he basically thought if I'm going down I'm taking you with me. What SMU did was illegal and it eventually someone was going to rat him out.
@schuhbdoo In 1984 Dickerson was easily the biggest star in the NFL and from a recruiting standpoint that's a HUGE selling point for any high school player. Imagine if Tom Brady came to your door to sell you on his alma mater. And in retrospect, he was right, Stanley WAS bad news for SMU and their culture at that time.
BULLSHIT! Walter Payton was well-established as the premier NFL running back by 1984. Dickerson was in his second season. Payton was in his 10th. Dickerson had great years, but would end with 3,000 fewer rushing yards than Payton. In 1984, Payton also had 368 receiving yards, and TWO passing TDs. Dickerson was certainly a great one, but he was NOT the "biggest star" in the NFL in 1984.
@@jumperguy9867 Dickerson was coming off his rookie season where he broke records and was both player of the year and rookie of the year. He also set the single season rushing record in his second year, which hasn’t been broken since.
@@5r248 well...la di da! Dickerson was ROY? He broke records? WHAT records? Rookie records? Having the best season for a running back doesn't make him the "biggest star" in the NFL. There have been lots of players who out-rushed a guy like Walter Payton in a season, but that didn't make them the "biggest star".
It wasn't that he sucked. He was hurt all the time and he got involved with drugs. The school kicked him out and that's when he decided to rip the cover off of the program.
every TIME i see this on ESPN, I gain infinitely more respect for Eric...best comeback lines ever.
David Stanley turned out to be a total failure in life and dropped dead of a drug abuse problem at 41 while Eric “not that big” Dickerson went on to the HoF and is a legend
Passed away in his sleep, it’s never been verified it’s from drug abuse, although it’s very likely. I did research on it for a video I made on my channel, couldn’t find anything that said it was a direct result of drug use but I’d say it’s probably likely.
They should've listened to him, and I could listen to ED read a phone book for an hour.
Same. My favorite player. One guy I’d love to meet.
Dickerson ran hard. One of the greatest
Eric Dickerson was right on target about David Stanley. Even one of his former teammates said he did not do much to help the team and was always injured.
What an idiot Stanley was. You’re on a recruiting trip, you meet the best player to ever play at that school, and you repeatedly insult the guy and try to demean him. I wish ED would have laid him out. SMU should have listened to Eric.
When you are drugged up and unstable, you probably don't care what an Eric Dickerson says. And when you have a illegal culture like at SMU that becomes paranoid, you more than likely are looking to cover your behind and dump the dirt.....!
Eric Dickerson was 6-3 220, how much bigger should he be?
Exactly
And had track speed.
David Stanley and his mother tried to come off like poor, unsuspecting victims when they were in on the take, too--which makes them just as dirty. If they were concerned about 'doing the right thing' then the first thing they should have done was come up with the dirty money they took, give it back, and THEN go to the NCAA. Taking the goods and then snitching smacks of payback. If SMU got the hit, David Stanley and his family should have gotten hit, too. The snitching was a punk move.
Straight B move…
True but SMU should have let him finish college and his degree rather than toss him out. SMU didn't believe they owed Stanley anything so why would he feel he owed SMU his silence
It doesn't matter. As was stated in the documentary, when a dirty school pays off a player, the player actually owns them, not the other way around.
Just like what was stated about A&M getting ED a gold Trans-Am but not commiting to them. "Hey, we bribed that kid, and he's not honoring the bribe!". Who exactly can the school complain to without incriminating themselves? These matters weren't about righteousness. They're about leverage.
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Man, I'll bust you up. You in high school. I play in the NFL. Classic. Muhahahahaha
I'm a Longhorn fan, but I like Eric Dickerson. He's got class, and brains - he's not just a dumb jock. Too bad that our POS booster turned Eric off to UT.
Same. What kinda thing is that to say to a kid? Talk about a lack of Salesmanship.
@@ddave7026 As a side note, I grew up in Dallas and I've eaten in Campisi's a few times. It's a Dallas landmark. One of their children Denise Campisi was in my high school class, but I didn't know her.
@uponthisrock32 I never liked Eric Dickerson but he earned the right to talk like that. He's in the HOF now as well so double bragging rights and double respect.
He knows he broke the rules. He knew he wouldn't play football again, but he still wanted to at least get his college degree. They wouldn't even let him do that. And since they didn't, he decided to take them down, even if it meant going down with them.
Dissing Big E! That's not a very good idea for anyone to do.
One more thing, I don't blame Eric Dickeron one bit for getting David Stanley's face. I can't see an NFL player taking crap from a high school player. Dickerson straight-up owned Stanley that night.
@uponthisrock32 Correction Dickerson's not just an NFLer, he's a MF HOFer!!!
Yes, you expect him to shut up and do nothing. He broke the rules also and accepted the money. After that you just disappear.You don't accept the money then rat out the people who gave it to you.
Yeah Stanley was a snitch and snake but SMU should have just let him finish his degree. He would have been out of their hair but they had to be stupid and stubborn.
At 1:06 minutes into the 30 for 30 documentary, there is a newspaper clipping that says David Stanley is 6-3 not 6-0 as ED states. So they were both the same size as DS implied, but why DS thinks 6-3 is not "big" I don't understand.
@clipobserver Dickerson said, do not recruit this guy!!!. Why? He was no good. Meaning, he won't play along with our rules. This statement by Dickerson, while not conclusive, shows that there was a culture of cheating going on at SMU. WTF is Dickerson around in 83/84 recruiting on behalf of SMU. No one seems to ask that question. He and James are dirty. If David Stanley got 25k to sign, what did Dickerson and James get???
Million dollar question!!!
If SMU had just let David Stanley come back to school to finish up school so he could get his degree, none of this would have happened. This kid is getting paid money, and you expect him not to do anything after the school shunned him after his stint in rehab. Not letting him come back was the worst thing SMU could do, and it came back to bite them in their ass.
I think this (Stanley trying to return to SMU) is the biggest bunch of BS in the entire story. I don't believe Stanley EVER even ATTEMPTED to complete his education at any time. As far as I know, he never graduated from anywhere. He died in 2005 from a drug overdose and its far more likely that the last 20 years of his life was a lot like the year and a half that he spent at SMU: in a drug induced stupor. He would have spilled the beans at some point. Even if he hadn't, the story would have come out sooner or later. There were too many with their hands in the pot. Stanley played ONE year for SMU, he was terrible, and he couldn't stay clean or sober. They had no reason to continue to pay for his schooling, and even if they had, he wouldn't have graduated anyway.
Almost everything SMU got the Death Penalty for is now legal.
Until we meet again
All it woulda done was delay the inevitable...even if Stanley never went to SMU, or if he had never snitched...with as much money as had been changing hands inside SMU football during that time, there was BOUND to be someone who at any given time received the short end of the stick somehow, and was marginalized/malcontented enough to snitch.
And especially if the guy is unstable, just appease him by letting him get his degree, and then he'll be out of your hair permanently.
Tell me about it. Stupid move by SMU. I guarantee you if they had let him get his degree, more likely than not, they wouldn't have gotten the death penalty.
@@johngonzalez6690 Maybe so, for that time, but you can’t guarantee that with every player that comes through the program. Someone is bound to open their mouth. It would have happened eventually.
@gochr1s I agree Mr.Eric Dickerson may have been an running back but I have seen many Running Backs make names for themselves by knocking down giant linebackers with their speed and power. Eric would have made anyone who pissed him off sorry that they did. I love that comeback of you're in high school boy I play in the NFL. You have to be a bad ass in the NFL and with that line Mr.Eric Dickerson was bad ass
Man, character and respect does matter. SMU should have listened to E.D.
"You in high school boy, I play in the NFL" lol 'Nuff said.
@ccislander07 I know that David Stanley is dead now but Eric Dickerson was taking about the past.
Hell no , who cares in what circumstances you grow up in, you don't pull that shit - he was obviously a "bad dude" doesn't matter where you grow up. He was just pissed his football career didn't pan out
@redmustang03 He ratted out the program because they didn't play him, because he sucked
@uponthisrock32 David Stanley got 25k to sign. Dickerson and James got zero! RIGHT!!!!! Dickerson say in the same clip, those guys at SMU know how to hide it all. They are really good at hiding it. Texas A & M, not so much with the new car. This is sickening.
Problem here is Dickerson never revealed what he got from SMU and states "it's a dead subject", but he's got no problem discussing what A&M or Oklahoma or UT offered.
Whatever happened to David Stanley?
Dickerson is 6'3" and Stanley was 6'0". How come they didn't listen to their biggest name in the program (well one of them at least)? Also Dickerson said he wasn't going to talk about what he got. Meaning he got some gifts.
Allegedly lol
Love to see it 🤣
I agree with that one.
Well that's what drugs and alcohol ultimately do to you.
It's not like Dickerson was clean either.
Classic ED. To speak to an NFL great so disrespectfully shows Stanley's character when he was recruit.
Hes a badass
@losangelescardinals still you don't pay players and Stanley was more like a scorned lover. So when SMU screwed him in his mind then he basically thought if I'm going down I'm taking you with me. What SMU did was illegal and it eventually someone was going to rat him out.
@schuhbdoo In 1984 Dickerson was easily the biggest star in the NFL and from a recruiting standpoint that's a HUGE selling point for any high school player. Imagine if Tom Brady came to your door to sell you on his alma mater. And in retrospect, he was right, Stanley WAS bad news for SMU and their culture at that time.
BULLSHIT! Walter Payton was well-established as the premier NFL running back by 1984. Dickerson was in his second season. Payton was in his 10th. Dickerson had great years, but would end with 3,000 fewer rushing yards than Payton. In 1984, Payton also had 368 receiving yards, and TWO passing TDs. Dickerson was certainly a great one, but he was NOT the "biggest star" in the NFL in 1984.
@@jumperguy9867 Dickerson was coming off his rookie season where he broke records and was both player of the year and rookie of the year. He also set the single season rushing record in his second year, which hasn’t been broken since.
@@5r248 well...la di da! Dickerson was ROY? He broke records? WHAT records? Rookie records? Having the best season for a running back doesn't make him the "biggest star" in the NFL. There have been lots of players who out-rushed a guy like Walter Payton in a season, but that didn't make them the "biggest star".
Their culture. Lol
@SeanP7195 has nothin' to do w/ this video...they should have tried harder
It wasn't that he sucked. He was hurt all the time and he got involved with drugs. The school kicked him out and that's when he decided to rip the cover off of the program.
David was a good person, growing up in very difficult circumstances.. and he made bad choices. Who here doesn't? RIP David.
Did you know him personally
Awww the bad guy told on other bad guys. Awwww