everyone talking about the hughie scenes as bad writing, but actually the worst offence of this episode is having homelander 3 rooms over not hearing a whole gunshot
Oh trust me, him not being able to hear that along with doing nothing in response to seeing that Sister Sage got SHOT IN THE HEAD and instead deciding to wing a speech ignoring the fact that the people he’s giving a speech to could be in potential danger is its own separate problem.
@@KinoFlexReviews yeah tbh I think both takes on the hughie thing are valid (I fall somewhere in the middle myself where i don't think it was played for laughs but I do think the scenes were a bit too gratuitous) but homelander was downright ooc in parts this episode and i also feel like they regressed all his development in this one, and I don't see many people talking about this in regards to why the episode is bad
@@wywrd_mtntI mean I would make the argument that this episode has all of the writing problems of The Boys in one episode. It really is a bad episode, but the tone deaf treatment of Hughie’s abuse was the final straw.
@@KinoFlexReviews yeah...and the thing is I actually really liked everything else, from butcher's scenes (even tho i think we all guessed what his deal was) to a-train's, kimiko's and victoria's whole existence this episode, but outside of that i cant say I enjoyed myself watching it at all! it does feel like they know it's the weakest season and they're padding it with some shocking stuff between this ep and episode 2 with the clones guy
Yea seriously the Homelander thing is insane to me. They totally killed any tension that still existed in the show when he saw the bullet hole in sages head and just did fuck all. Ultimately I think Kripke hates the fact Homelander is many people favorite character and so the rest of the show is going to be a long and drawn out humiliation ritual. They don’t want him to appear intimidating or formidable anymore.
I'm pretty sure he was only saying that in the moment to assure some mercy yk. Maybe he was his favorite supe but I don't think you can take that statement at face value
@@no8978many times in the show hughie mentions that tek knight was his favorite hero. Even in the last episode it’s the memory of hughie’s dad going to buy him a tek knight figure that brought his dad back
@@beircheartaghaistin2332 I'm not disagreeing. I think they used Hughies trauma for shock value, but that is a very different problem from playing it for laughs.
Quote from showrunner Eric Kripke regarding Hughie being SA'd by his childhood hero: "Well, that’s a dark way to look at it! We view it as hilarious. The idea of Spider-Man going down to be kink tickled in the Batcave is just too good to pass up. I’m sorry, I just couldn’t leave that on the table." It's meant to be funny. Please forget that the first and only good season had more respect and thought put into similar actions as commentary of #MeToo, SA is now supposed to be grounds for a cheap laugh.
Fun thing about Webb Weaver is that he only appeared in a cover of the comic book. And he appears in one panel hanging upside down pretty much showing he’s dead. Atleast he gets a character in the show for the screen time he has.
My only problem with episode 6 was the SA going on a bit too long but that didn’t make the whole episode bad lmao. People are genuinely trying to say the whole season is bad because of a section from a show that has been edgy from the start.
Let’s not act like the season has been the best, especially with some of these plot lines. Episode 4 Kinda seems like the breaking point for some people
imo it was long because it the first time teknight does something in the main series, people who didnt watch gen v dont know who he is and how much of a degenerate he is
I do find it weird how the first thing Eric says is "That's a dark way to look at it." Obviously that would be addressed towards the "SAed after dad's death" prtion of the question. You wouldn't say that to a question like "Where did the idea for the sex dungeon come from?" So it seems he's implying the reporter is taking Hughie's SA more seriously than he is. Then in the second paragraph of Eric's answer, when he talks about why he added the scene, he comes off as being eager to do it. Listing reasons like wanting to monkey paw Jack's request. *"That was a story that Jack had always asked us to do. So part of it is, always be careful what you ask the writers for."* or just really wanting to see spiderman get tickled in the batcave. *"and the idea of Spider-Man going down to be kink tickled in the Batcave is just too good to pass up. I’m sorry, I just couldn’t leave that on the table."* Thoughout Eric's entire DIRECT response to the question of why they added hughie's SA scene, he talks about doing it for his own satisfaction. Yes he goes into a more serious, heartfelt response about how the SA is gonna play a role into his character development, but he does it way later in a different question. Such a response could've been the first thing he said when he addresses the addition of the SA scene.
Weird cuz i didn't see this energy from him with starlight and deep who all be it was bad but nowhere near as bad as hughie, erik is known to just do shit fr his own dumb reasons even tek knight who really was a hero with unfortunate brain damage in the comics turned him into some racist evil rapist becuz erik thinks batman is a fascist
It’s very interesting how you guys are just all over the Huey thing, but Homelander has sexually abused more than one person Especially in season four he sexually abused two people why aren’t you guys on that and why do you guys keep looking at Homelander as the best character ever much hypocrisy
@@Christian_Ada1Being a good person doesn't equal being a good character, I havent watched the boys but even I know that Homelander is meant to be seen has a piece of shit.
@@malikpierre-louis3343 Unfortunately not everyone understands that. There are people out there that legitimately think that Homelander is honest to god hero.
I feel like a lot of ppl are missing the point of tasteful SA scenes. There is never a need to show intense rape scenes, they could have done it much better and especially with a character we are attached to and have been built up with. SA is not the same as murder, SA is experienced by way more people than murder is. SA victims shouldn’t be forced to watch an SA scene get played up for laughs and then have people tell them it’s for the plot, cuz it’s not you can write literally anything else other then SA and still get the point across or do like they did with starlight and just not show it or like in little reindeer where they showed it but didn’t glorify it
If you haven’t experience SA it’s hard to understand but scenes like that just encourage and downplay it. They make people think that rape is funny and can be laughed at. This can alienate viewers that were abused and can also make other viewers that may be perpetrators feel justified in their act. Another good example is homelander forcing the scientist to jack off. They didn’t show anything, they didn’t show his dick or even the hand movements just focused on his face. The scene was uncomfortable and supposed to make you uncomfortable, homelander laughing was a clear indicator that this was bad. But it also felt justified as homelander was sh’d as a child by that very man in a way. Hughie’s never done that to anyone and was already dealing with a lot of emotional turmoil that got focus, a rape scene was not needed at all to be the catalyst he could have reached that point solely on his own. Like the mission could have just been rough and he felt bad and then realised his grief, rape is never needed to drive the plot.
@@Ash-Winchester Hughie was raped he was tricked into sleeping with someone who he thought was his gf hell literally irl it's a crime to tell a girl your a director and shit when your not to trick them into sleeping with you
@@Ash-Winchester he was SA'd by the shifter considering in real life it's a crime to lie about who you are to sleep with someone I can't go up to a girl and say I'm a Hollywood producer if you sleep with me you can be a star cause that's SA Hughie was convince that he slept with his girlfriend but instead it was someone else so he was SA'd and they made starlight get mad at Hughie for being SA'd and even convinced to marry the shifter
While I don’t personally agree, I find the argument of “you didn’t need to show it” completely understandable. You never have to personally show anything, but I think if they included an SA warning beforehand, I think that would have been warranted to do so
You kind of know what you signed up for… like how you should expect to watch sex scenes in “Challengers” but if you mean to say to drop a hotline due to a possible trigger warning, I mean the absurdity lies in the situation he’s in, I think it’d be really hard for someone to fully relate to what he’s going through.
@@Iwatoda_Dorm Exactly and most people would find the trigger warning (in a film/series) as something potentially annoying cause they feel they already know, by seeing the age restriction and what the series talks about, what they will eventually watch
Its not that they showed the drawn out scene its that they didnt handle SA with the care and seriousness it needs to be handled with because there is already a big problem with downplaying male sexual assault. In the moment they were caring but then everything after its never brought Hughie almost acts like he forgot about it. All of that alone i wouldnt really have a problem with but this show has shown how to handle SA and chose to make Hughies less serious
My only problem with the chapter was that I feel like Tek Knight was wasted, I genuinely think the comic did a better job with it. I mean, Tek Knight was mentioned several times since season 1, his f/cking name is Tek Knight and the closest we get to seeing his suit is a picture of the fighting video game that Ryan plays. At the very least they could have made him wear it to show off or something, I don't know, I was disappointed that he was just a fet*shistic Sherlock Holmes.
I liked the take that Homelander found him to be irrelevant (unlike how Superman and Batman are like best buds). As well as talking about the prison-industrial complex. But saying Batman is a fascist undertones (which is oversatured opinion but can still be handled well, but at the very least all Superheros would be up for that then) for hunting down poor people is an awful take. I understand if it was a parody of a Batman if he was placed in the corporatism of The Boys’ world, but to say that was the 1:1 relation is silly. Though Tek Knight being into BDSM was also a good parody idea, have you seen Catwoman. I also think how he handles fascist elements and how it is driven by hate and anger with Stormfront in S2 was good and is generally good though
@@immortalpickle3104 Looking at the characterization I think it's fine, one complaint I have is that they were not very subtle and it felt more like a character from the comic than from the series. My complaint revolves around the fact that more could have been done with the character, since season 1 Tek Knight has been mentioned to us, several small mentions, I would like to highlight that there is a woman who says "Tek Knight broke my back", I really feel It was somewhat disappointing how little we saw of him since, beyond the prisons, he did not contribute much to the plot and could easily be replaced. Even so, I hope that perhaps Laddio will have a role in the future, perhaps as a new Tek Knight grabbing the previous one's armor and helping The Boys, I don't know, I genuinely wanted to see that suit, even if it was in an image with an 4ss looking CW costume.
@@Coleymoleyart I was content with him walking around in the suit at the convention or appearing in newspapers, I don't know, even Ryan playing with him in that Mortal Kombat parody would have been enough for me.
As a male who’s actually been thru SA, it was treated right, it’s not something people wanna talk about and it wasn’t played for laughs we could tell that hughie was horrified the whole time these people that keep arguing about it don’t have the perspective of going through it, so they rly dk what they are talking about, When hughie opens up to starlight that’s when she jumps to comfort him, she understood that it’s not something that you just bring up it’s something the person themselves had to bring up, I thought personally this was done great especially with the extra compartmentalization that hughie is going through with the death of his father
Omg I’m so glad there’s this comment I’ve also been SA’d as a male and I find it kind of weird how people are like “oh you can’t depict it this way”. I’ve yet to see people that have actually been SA’d complain about this.
10:44 I think the reason the scene played out as long as it did was to showcase the urgency at which the rest of the gang was needing to get to him The whole episode was about them bugging the party to find stuff out and then one of their guys on the inside goes dark and they have to pull him out. The tension building up to Kimeko saving Hughie was so palpable I was fucking relieved as fuck see that door open and her kicking the shit out of that asshole The whole time I wasn’t laughing or even hardly chuckling at Huggies predicament. I was thinking “bro GET THIS MAN OUTTA THIS WIERD SHIT WTF” It was uncomfortable with a dirty edge of humor that was only played at the parts that made sense, i.e. Hughie guessing the safe words and getting more nervous at the stunts became more and more depraved. And even then, I’d hardly call it humorous, more or less uncomfortable as fuck. The only thing hilarious in the episode was them giving tech-knights millions away and Sister Sage actin a fool after getting shot. Other than that….it was a very intense, stressful and emotional episode. But most are harping on Hughies abuse and this article. I will say the wording of the creator in the article, if true, doesn’t spin it in a good light at all.
The Hughe assault dragged on for too long. Tho something that dissapointed me was that Tek Knight was wasted in this episode and immediately killed off in it. When I first saw him in Gen V, I was HYPED to see him in the Boys. But instead of being a cool recurring villain throughout the season, he SAs Hughe for nearly 40 mins in cringeworthy and disgusting scenes. On top of that, we didn't even get to see his suit, like if we saw it as a prop in the Tek Cave (Which I was hoping for), it would've been ok. Man, he was much better in Gen V than in the main show!
Oh get a grip What SA are you talking about? The tickling of his feet? Him sitting on a cake remember, he went into that mansion under his own decision. No one forced him to go as a matter fact, they were telling him not to go to work, but he went in anyway. They didn’t kidnap him to have their way with him. They thought it was the actual web Weaver. Why you guys making a narrative out of nothing? Is there an agenda here? Why are men crying lately in 2024 like a bunch of snowflakes
usually agree with your points and i like the boys but honestly everytime they do somthing that is sexually violating it just comes off as poor taste and shock value. I think S3 Episode 1 with Termite was too much and i think the marty scene was too much, the dick explosion scene in Gen V is too much and this 40min mission where Hughie is basically Violated as a Bplot was too much and it just seems like they get away with it because its Sexual Assult against men and majority of it is played for laughs. This shit wouldnt slide if it were a woman and it shouldnt. These types of scenes are vile and bring my hype down a little. 1 few second scene where Hughie tells Annie doesnt justify the back half of the episode maybe if it was a quick scene but not a whole ass Bplot. To further my point most reactions to those scenes on youtube are seen as a joke and Hughie comfronting annie about it majority of reactors found it funny until they see Hughie start to cry and realize it wasnt. That speaks volumes of how media dictates how we see male sexual assult
Thats because the writers are untalented hacks who coasted of the first season being good then heavily relied on mindless gore and sex for shock value instead of making it coherent. Add a dash of ramping up the political angle to an absurd degree and recycling plot lines constantly, and we have ourselves a bonafide stinker on our hand that Colin and his meat riders assure us is mana from heaven.
Especially when its a show like the boys where people have sorta just decided they dont like it anymore, after S3 alotta cracks showed, and people complained, and ive noticed a bunch of brain dead people are taking those issues, and applying them to S4, they really lack the ability to form their own opinion, they just think what they're told, of course there's also the crowd that just hates it cuz politics, but for example people have said "its just repeating character arcs" yet this season has finally moved on from what S2-3 did which was absolutely recycling character arcs
Nah, this problem is completely in context. Kripke put a ton of work into making sure the SA of his main female character was handled in a sensitive way. But with his main male character he didn’t give a shit how it was portrayed and played it for laughs.
@@fobo3361 It’s objectively true that S4 IS recycling character arcs for certain characters. Frenchie is once again feeling guilty over his past as a hit man, MM is once again dealing with drama regarding his ex wife and daughter, and Hughie is once again taking his father for granted. It’s all stuff we’ve seen before. Only Butcher and Homelander actually have unique and fresh character arcs. Once again, those two are carrying the show
It’s obviously in context if people are talking about the very thing that’s there and unfolding, it seems wrong for ANYONE going through SA to be portrayed as a joke. They took starlight through a more serious approach but yeh we’ll completely ignore what’s happening to hug his like it’s no problem
I think the problem is The Boys tries to be nuanced unlike the comics but this episode handles SA relative to Hughie so poorly that it feels like edginess for the sake of edginess like the comics did.
I think both this and Gen V have been kind of gratuitous about every SA scene. Annie's scenes were meant to shock too and there is always this sense of them having their cake and eating it too, no pun intended. Hughie's scenes were handled with even less sensitivity though. I kind of roll my eyes at Eric Kripke constantly trying to outdo the shock factor of previous series.
I really don’t know what reality you guys are in, but the show has always done violence for the sake of doing violence to try to be edgy. There were things I shouldn’t have been done because it didn’t actually propel the story that’s been happening since season one, but you guys are crying about it now because of Hughie You guys are funny as hell because you guys because you haven’t mentioned anything about Homelander sexually attacking the three people in season 4 itself, you guys are just in about Hughie So Homelander sexually attacking people doesn’t bother you guys right? Oh, because you think Homelander is cool and when the best written characters ever
@@Christian_Ada1 No, because Hughie is someone I’ve seen develop on screen and grown to actually care for as a character. Get over yourself dawg. Violence and sexual violence are two very different things.
@@Christian_Ada1name me one mf who said they were ok with homelander SAing people that’s literally why he is unredeemable stop putting words in our Mouths dumbass, and did Kripke say “Oh it was hilarious to us” when he was talking about Beccas SA no he wasn’t he took it very seriously along with starlight’s but with Hughies who is a male gets SA it is played off as a joke as said by Kripke THATS THE DIFFERENCE and why everyone is “crying” about it if it was kimiko in that suit Kripke would have never said “oh we found it hilarious” fuck you for trying to downplay SA to men bet you would have a different take if you had a Son
I hate how soft some are like yeah don’t show it if it’s too bad but if it plays to a bigger role (ex. Revenge arc, or something) showing it could justify ruthlessness and bitterness along the way twords some other characters he or she might encounter. Like if you are easily triggered the show tells you to turn it off 🙄
The point isn’t even if it’s too gruesome to be shown on screen, the point is that you’re undermining your show if you portray it in a sloppy way, which is the takeaway. People (including myself) loved how the Netflix show Baby Reindeer covered SA topics because they treated those topics with the maturity needed, thus it didn’t undermine its point like The Boys did.
literally nothing happens either like what? no penis was shown, no genitalia, all that was seen was hughies feet getting tickled and him sitting on a cake, im sorry but those are literally the safest things they could show, can’t believe this is the marker of someone undermining sa but ok, feel like people are just finding any excuse to hate on the show and writer like who is actually bothered by that scene and i assume it’s a bunch of puritanical christian ppl who believe sex is a sin, also crazy how a scene like this is taken to serious and not all the other scenes of death and sa like jesus christ way to pick the dumbest moment to fight about
@@richardbolas You sound like an actual person that would commit sexual assault without even realizing it. He is being made to do demeaning things for the sexual pleasure of other people against his will. The fact that it’s played for laughs when the showrunner wants us to pat him on the back for his depiction of sexual assault in season 1 is incredibly gross.
@@KinoFlexReviews i already wrote like 3 other comments about this topic, also no, tek knight was literally under the impression it was web weaver under the costume? in tek knights mind it was a consensual thing till he then realized it was hughie, everything after that is completely fucked up, also that’s a crazy thing to say like what, i literally wrote about how other scenes could be considered sa liek the one with sage when she’s in a disoriented state of mind and the deep sleeping with her also the deep forcing his partner into sleeping with an octopus, or the deep putting his dick in annie’s face, or the women in russia with kimiko, i know what sa is im not stupid, i just dont think this scene is the best representation of sa being under minded that’s all
@@KinoFlexReviews also when did he say he wants a pat on the back he is literally just answering questions that were asked to him, and also the way he portrayed annie’s sexual assault was very well done, genuinely a great scene and example of the way women are sa’ed especially by those in positions of power
The show is suffering from lazy ass writing and double standards . Which is really disappointing, especially after watching gen v which was miles better then season 3.
I think the biggest arguments against are 1. The experience Hughie had, though not rape, feels like being raped. It's sex you have no control over. If he knew the job meant getting Ashley's arm up his ass, he wouldn't have taken it. 2. People who've experienced sa or know someone who experienced sa are fully in their right to want a warning. 3.The people who don't think sex scenes are necessary in other media will not give up that belief just bc The Boys is The Boys. 4.There was a warning on Herogasm, but not this one. 5.Kripke's response "thats a dark way of seeing it, we thought it was funny" only applies to the sa, bc the confrontation comes in only when they bring up something that was intended as a joke, but not seen as one by the interviewer.
12:30 I think people forget that both ashley and teck knight were under the impression the hughie was web weaver. Who is most certainly into all of that stuff, it's weird to think they just added a scene where he gets assaulted.
How come nobody mentioned Homelander's SA of the guy (Marty?) in the basement lab? There was a different tone present in that scene. That shit was was not funny and nobody thought otherwise, or if they did, they were a very quiet minority. Not funny. At all. It was all horrific, without any real levity. Tonally different. The Tek-Knight dungeon stuff was played for laughs while it was happening. It really was.
The last 5 minutes where the guy is trying to argue that they don't like Batman. He'd have to agree that they did this with every superhero in the show, and that's like basically all of the shows premise, so why is he watching it
Honestly this was the worst episode of the boys it was just such a badly done poorly written episode, the writing is clunky and I don’t get how they can just waste a whole episode this close to the end, it feels like the characters aren’t moving or getting anywhere. Especially during the SA scene the writing gets super clunky and it seems like the writers don’t know if they want to make it a joke or emotional, it really looks like the point was for that shocking crazy scene, I like season 4 for the most part but it’s episodes like these that get me worried for the future
I don’t know… was it bad because they portrayed it so strongly? Because by the end of it was hard to watch for sure, and it feels like the distaste for most people is only based on how much they felt uncomfortable, which I think was its goal… right? And I get the need for the funny, it made it digestible at first honestly- but it honestly drove the point home even harder. I think people are simply getting twisted by focusing on the shock value humor as the main target, but not understanding that it helped drive the tension to the point it boiled to.
This^^^^ it literally became harder and harder to watch as well as the fact that Hughie got found out by the end of it all The whole time I was like “yo plz get this man out of here omfg” The relief when Kimeko kicked that asshole was so nice And I’m glad we got the ending we did with Hughie acknowledging that not only was the shit that happened to him not okay, but that HE is not okay. Especially after the death of his dad Feels like everyone is going thru some shit right now and it’s all so that we can have season 5 be fully focused on one thing….kill homelander Not that it wasn’t the goal already, but y’know, final season and all 🤷🏾♂️
@@chandlerbursedefinitely set him back when I don’t think it was necessary. Though not sure if it would’ve made a difference if they replaced anyone else in the role Maybe had they gone about getting the info a different way it could’ve worked??? But I can’t really think of another way to get the info they got from Nueman
There was zero need to include ashley sa hughie in such detail. the feet liking, arousal wiping, ect. could have easily implied it but instead they went too far here. This had nothing to do with the plot and went too far all for a lame spiderman joke.
We dont need a sa scene to realize what hughies going through, and we dont need a sa scene for tension to build with tek knight. There are a thousand other ways this could have been written. Dont settle just because you wanna like the show.
Objectively, sa isn't crossing the line, but the way the writers handled it was poor when compared to how they handled other sensitive topics in the past.
There is development i these scene. As Ashley is assaulting him Hughie echoes the lines "im fine, im totally fine" the juxtaposition does work for the episode.
I find it to be quite the false equivalence of why we don't see Starlight's sexual assault, and we see Hughie's. Let me set the IRL society issue here. We tend to keep reporting this whenever a woman gets Sexual assault or abused, but that gets less reported when it happens to a man. You can say both are disgusting, but do you have a frame of reference on how bad it is? That's one point. Another thing is, Hughie needs to not get caught and it'll feel like Hughie is a failure if it's presented that he got caught quickly since we weren't there to see it and how long it lasted. As for Starlight, the point there is to prove is that she was vulnerable new girl against what she assumes is a higher rank member of the group she works for. There's no more nuance to bring, because we seen or heard of these reports quite often. In comparison to Hughie trying to sneak in, only to be caught off guard by it being a sex dungeon where he needs to play along. That's too specific for anyone to get an idea how that'll go. That's another point Lastly, and another realistic point, we know these characters more than enough so for us to gravitate more for them is by showing how bad it is for him even though he's bottling it up given what happened to him recently. Again, feeling uncomfortable is part of the point of The Boys if there's a point on the matter at hand. Just like MM having a inconvenient panic attack while trying to save him. It's always trying to keep you guessing how bad can it go. Only to receive some relief when A-train comes in and gives a quick hand so they'll live for another day.
So why do people excuse Homelander SA to characters on the show when he was trying to have the deep blow a train? Or when Homelander had that guy play with himself in front of everyone isn’t that sexual abuse how come no one was talking about that? Yeah, people still love Homelander like some kind of Hero
i don't know what world you live in but who tf loves homelander like some kind of a hero wtf are you talking about that makes for about 1% of the show's audience?
I honestly personally think tech knight is worse. Obviously they’re both awful, but the deep does terrible things because he thinks of himself as a freak. He hurts other people to distract from his own pain Tech knight tries to hurt hugie just for his own disgusting satisfaction Obviously I’m not trying to justify the horrible things the deep does, but I do think it makes him a little more understandable compared to tech knight.
@@chgjake2230understandable does not equal less evil, the deep knew what he was doing, he was blackmailing starlight, say what you will about tek knight but for most of the dungeon scene he was under the impression web weaver was under the mask, also tek knight explained he would have to kill hughie or turn him into homelander that’s why he goes full crazy sex maniac once he realizes it’s hughie, so the sa wasn’t even gonna be the worst part, he was literally gonna get killed right after like huh?
@@richardbolas I understand where you're coming from, but I disagree on a fundamental level. I think someone who is pushed to the point of doing evil things is inherently less evil than someone who does evil things for their own pleasure. I honestly think they're both irredeemable, but I still think tech knight is (was) more evil than the deep, even if the difference is relatively insignificant in the grand scheme of morality. edit: nvm, the deep is pretty explicitly enjoying doing terrible shit this season, so I think they're about the same.
Then you’re being a hypocrite because the show has always been very odd and also homoerotic And also extremely very, very very woke It goes to show that you guys are very very hypocritical and that’s not good in today’s society to be a hypocrite
Idk man..the tone was just... weird. I just gender-swap it in my head and.. yeah. Idk, don't want to go all MRA or anything, I'm no fan of that idiot Uncritical Drinker, don't get me wrong. This is just my own personal take, and the tone of that...Grand Guignol of Violation was just...off. I'm aware i haven't dissected the episode with devastating media literacy and Socratic acumen, but it's all I got right now. I *suppose* it could be justified as a psychodrama following the death of his Dad, but i don't believe that was the intention and It's weak as an interpretation. So i come back to: tone. I'm basically doing a vibe-check. The vibe was *waaaaay* off. I'm with your man who invoked Ari Aster. Damn, i finished typing this comment just as Ari Aster started talking. Great minds think alike i guess. Cheers guys. Good faith discussions are always welcome in these times of hot-takes and thoughtless "critique".
People are taking it to seriously, it's like stop babying people, you don't need a warning in front of everything to save people from getting triggered or something, it wasn't that great of a scene but people need to relax
@@Mr.Murasakino can't go through life expecting a trigger warning before every bit of content, you either work towards overcoming or you let it cripple you.
@@burtonthegrape9217 I am all for overcoming trauma but it won't come fast. It's a slow process and adding heavy stuff without a warning hardly if ever helps someone overcome it.
kripkes response keeps being taken out of context because he was answering multiple questions in one and it’s altering everyones opinions on the scene. what was supposed to be funny was the the concept of knock off batman with a sex cave. he doesn’t say the actual assault of hughie is played for laughs rather the fact that the real knock off spider-man was going to go get kinky with batman.
Nah it wasnt needed to show because with the logic he said of we need to see hughie break down or whatever then we should see starlight go through the deeps abuse to set the tone of how bad it was
I find it strange that a lot of people have a problem with the writer taking hughie scene as comedy. I mean it's a dark humorous show so and the scene was very clearly written to be uncomfortable but have comdey aspects. I didn't laugh at every part but some of it got me chuckling
I was okay with those scenes, it didnt made me laugh at all but I understand that it was for the shock value and maybe it just wasnt my type of humour. The only problem for me was Hughie crying at the end of the episode, it took away all the fun that those scenes could possibly have, I mean, bro was traumatized, it aint funny.
People have a problem because they know that if Hughie had been replaced with a female character, the scene would not be comedic at all. Starlight’s SA in season 1 was taken very seriously and there was nothing comedic about it. But with Hughie they didn’t take it seriously at all.
@@chandlerburse i mean. you can tell by the tone of voice and weridness that it's comdey. Some people are simply way to uncomfortable to laugh i was the same for some of the scenes
@@jameslough6329thats not necessarily true if the comics had it switched around then it probably play differently the difference is. Starlight situation was for character development, hughie wasn't so his was a joke more then serious but even then Starlight had jokes during her scene
I mean batman was a fascist in multiple media like in kingdom come, the justice lords, Christian Bale Batman. Dude legit had constant surveillance on everyone and the movie was trying to show him as in the right because the city could not protect it self. Also batman has psychological issues himself with his own trauma and how he deals with it creating rules for himself and codes dressing up as a bat, and even lets villains kill themselves sometimes as a loop hole for his kill rule. I am saying this to show that batman maybe smart, but he is not right all the time when it comes to decision making he makes mistakes and get people killed though his inaction and action. Like can't ignore Joker killing off one of his teenage sidekicks on his watch no less.
So you don’t know what a fascist is. A fascist is someone who supports or promotes fascism-a system of government led by a dictator who typically rules by forcefully and often violently suppressing opposition and criticism, controlling all industry and commerce, and promoting ethno-nationalism and often racism. This has nothing to do with Batman. Even if you want to try and argue that Batman is using force to keep the peace, he is responding to force with force.
I love how the guy that colin is disagreeing with makes points like " well you dont have to show that " when you can say that about almost anything that shows something bad like SA or murder its like yeah but also for the boys case its not just shock value it tells the story of what happened ALSO if you can handle something like these scenes then why are you watching the boys?? people get killed it terrible ways there are too many sex scenes to count and yet your complaining about this? again why watch something you wouldnt like from season 1 and then watch the whole damn show
Show don’t tell is the most basic and common form of criticism in visual storytelling. And the problem isn’t the subject matter being depicted, it’s that the subject matter isn’t handled well.
They didnt just blow it off like nothing if thats what your so upset about it made hue ie break down at the end it was not some shock value cutaway if you watched the video then he brought up why it was handled fine idk what your on about
@@NighttimezzGoofyahh By playing off Hughie’s abuse as funny. It doesn’t matter how Hughie himself feels in the scene, it is still portrayed as if it is a joke.
I dont really get this, they have always done this, why is it only a problem now that they show it. The impact would obviously not be as big if they just said that it happened, its a part of the plot, and it shows ashleys personality. And regardless they didnt even do that much, its not like hughie was getting his inside rumbled around. Its just feels like complaining to complain
Because this is a traumatic scene played for laughs, when a similar traumatic scene was done for Starlight it was played straight with no jokes. It’s not the having SA in the show that’s the issue, it’s their presentation of it.
@@KinoFlexReviews how is it played for laughs. I for sure werent laughing watching that scene. If you were maybe blame it on yourself instead of the show, it never had any haha funny moments besides the cake scene. Everything else felt uncomfortable and weird and tbh the cake scene also felt uncomfortable, but atleast it had some humor in it. But if you watched those scenes and genuinely thought they were only there for laughs you are fucked in the head ngl
@@Yakonsupremacy The framing of the scene is no different from how other comedic scenes are portrayed in the show. The dialogue is also blatantly meant to be comedic and get laughs. Oh and also, the showrunner literally says that it was supposed to be funny!
@@KinoFlexReviews yes the scene was also showing how the characters in the scene would typically act, what did you want them to do? I for one did not sit and laugh and thought it was funny, and i didnt find it amusing, it was more so disgusting. It was an uncomfortable sit through, i dont think anyone was putting on a big ol smile when hughie was crying and begging for mercy, and i dont think it was intended. If they had downplayed the situation, or hughie himself had downplayed it and laughed about it afterwards or whatever yes i would agree, but they didnt treat it that way, the butler even killed tec knight saying that he was a fucked up person, they didnt potrait it as being a goofy situation at all. How you got that from that scene is actually insane, watching someone getting sa’d and thinking it was put for laughs is insane. And how can you see hughie breaking down over it at the end and think it was just for shit and giggles.
Tbh have these people seen the previous seasons of the boys. It's obvious the show is doing to do uncomfortable shit. Like thh i think episode 1 with hughie's gf getting killed was way worse and more traumatic then this stuff
Yeah, except they usually play traumatic scenes straight and take the effects those scenes have on the characters seriously which is how they should be portrayed. They didn’t do either of those things with Hughie’s SA and if Kripke’s comments are anything to go by, he never even thought about how traumatic the Tek Knight stuff would realistically before Hughie during filming (probably because he doesn’t take male SA seriously like a lot of people).
@@demetriusean He breaks down for like a minute and most of it is centred around his grief over his dad rather than what happened in the dungeon. He only has ONE line to Starlight about his experience in the dungeon and it is again played in an unserious way. If Hughie was a female character, half the episode would be her dealing with the trauma of what happened in the dungeon and absolutely none of what happened would in any way be comedic in nature
Who SA Hughie? I’m so confused of the outrage One she was just messing around with his feet and people forget that he went undercover on his own volition to enter the mansion. He wasn’t actually kidnapped and had things done to him, and they didn’t even know it was Huey because he was wearing a full costume. People keep going about what the writers wrote in an interview. The show itself did not make fun of Huey, especially starlight. She was very affectionate and try to be there for him. I still don’t understand The ones who love making fun of those type of situations are never women. It’s usually men who make fun when another man gets. SA Because I had an issue that happened to me in 1994 my uncle saw, and he laughed when it actually bothered me to no end It’s not women laughing it’s other men laughing at other men going through SA
I think the things that happend are kind of funny, the cake, the tickles, hughie trying to guess the key word, it's funny because things haven't got really that bad, as viewers we're just hoping for the boys to get there on time before they do something really fucked up to him, Having some notion of what happends to him in the comic I terrified, still, not being able to do anything to escape a situation that you know will get worse is traumatizing, they were able to show it cause it didn't get that explicit and they knew the boys were going to be there on time.
But what happened to him is sexual abuse and it is just as bad as the sexual abuse Starlight suffered. The fact that you took enjoyment out of Hughie’s suffering really highlights why people had a problem with Kripke’s comments on his heartless indifference to the suffering he went through.
It's kinda ridiculous that they're calling it "male sexual assault" as if he was being forced to do something by tek knight. He was undercover, he had to do it because his cover would've been blown, funningly enough when tek knight threatened legitimate sexual assault, they stopped him and didn't show it
A woman masturbated using his feet to get off while he is strapped to a chair. She then proceeded to wipe the afterproduct on his face. He was in too deep to tell tek knight no or to run away by the time he discovered how freaky he really was. The fact that hughie was sexually assaulted is not debatable dawg.
also ridiculous how some people think it's "worse" than what starlight went through? Since when was getting your feet tickled worse than getting mouth r*ped
I have a request for Collin. You have a couple of videos where you react and talk about UA-camrs video where they did dumb discussions about a game or a type of media. Can you please do this again to the UA-camr known as “SHOHEI KONDO”. He recently posted a video going over Assassins Creed Shadows and his opinions on it. In my opinion it was one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. For a phew moments I thought I was listening to a 15 year old who can’t roast. I just feel that something needs to be said ,and can the people in the comments help like this comment so it goes to Collin.
You talk about someone’s inability to roast yet said absolutely nothing of substance other than saying a UA-camr made you cry over a take on a video game and how you need someone else to make a video on him because you’re either too lazy or mentally incompetent to do so.
I literally dont get the hate about episode 6 the episode is good and its not that disturbing like Ashley just tickled his feet and farted on a cake and i get hugie just lost his dad but he WAS about to get sa but thanks to kimko he was saved this is no different than then other seasons
am i the only one that finds it disingenuous to compare the sa on starlight and the dungeon scenes with hughie? i feel like starlights is like a wayyyyy to common thing most women go through at some point in their lives, many times for a lot of them, and the dungeon scene was a lot more played up for drama, and like yeah obviously ppl do get kidnapped and put in dungeons in real life but it’s also a lot more out there than a woman being sa’ed by a man in a position of power, also the sa was definitely treated adequately it’s not like mm and frenchie went up to him and teased him about it, kimiko and starlight comforted him and helped him like what
@@Escanor4473 It's really hilarious too. People were ok with the episode, until Eric came out & said it was played for laughs in an interview, while talking about the Starlight scene as some sort of landmine trekking moment.
I'm as liberal as they come, but I'm still pissed off with the SA scene. They did not write it with the weight it should have had, and it had to be intentional because they have handled SA in better ways with characters like Starlight. I've been defending the show from all the crybaby conservatives complaining about politics that was always there and going "oh its so woke", but this feels like a step too far with the way it was handled and shown.
everyone talking about the hughie scenes as bad writing, but actually the worst offence of this episode is having homelander 3 rooms over not hearing a whole gunshot
Oh trust me, him not being able to hear that along with doing nothing in response to seeing that Sister Sage got SHOT IN THE HEAD and instead deciding to wing a speech ignoring the fact that the people he’s giving a speech to could be in potential danger is its own separate problem.
@@KinoFlexReviews yeah tbh I think both takes on the hughie thing are valid (I fall somewhere in the middle myself where i don't think it was played for laughs but I do think the scenes were a bit too gratuitous) but homelander was downright ooc in parts this episode and i also feel like they regressed all his development in this one, and I don't see many people talking about this in regards to why the episode is bad
@@wywrd_mtntI mean I would make the argument that this episode has all of the writing problems of The Boys in one episode. It really is a bad episode, but the tone deaf treatment of Hughie’s abuse was the final straw.
@@KinoFlexReviews yeah...and the thing is I actually really liked everything else, from butcher's scenes (even tho i think we all guessed what his deal was) to a-train's, kimiko's and victoria's whole existence this episode, but outside of that i cant say I enjoyed myself watching it at all! it does feel like they know it's the weakest season and they're padding it with some shocking stuff between this ep and episode 2 with the clones guy
Yea seriously the Homelander thing is insane to me. They totally killed any tension that still existed in the show when he saw the bullet hole in sages head and just did fuck all. Ultimately I think Kripke hates the fact Homelander is many people favorite character and so the rest of the show is going to be a long and drawn out humiliation ritual. They don’t want him to appear intimidating or formidable anymore.
one thing about the drama for episode 6 is that Hughie was a fan of tech knight and didn't know what he was going be like when he met him
I'm pretty sure he was only saying that in the moment to assure some mercy yk. Maybe he was his favorite supe but I don't think you can take that statement at face value
@@no8978many times in the show hughie mentions that tek knight was his favorite hero. Even in the last episode it’s the memory of hughie’s dad going to buy him a tek knight figure that brought his dad back
@@mosthatedty9585 ah ok I must've missed those details
@no8978 in the previous episode even his father said that 11 year old hughie wanted a tek knight doll/action figure.
Yeah although after all the shit they been through I doubt he expected Tek to be a cool dude
Then the Starlight clone incident happens and Hughie is once again played as a joke and not a victim. Fuck this show.
Didn't really play him as a joke there
Ok, thank you I thought I was going insane. The scene doesn’t strike me as something meant to be funny.
I mean it was played as a joke
@Gamfluent I dunno why people are trying to excuse it when this kind of thing was done way more tastefully with Starlight in season 1
@@beircheartaghaistin2332because Starlight was done for a completely different reason then hughie
@@beircheartaghaistin2332 I'm not disagreeing. I think they used Hughies trauma for shock value, but that is a very different problem from playing it for laughs.
Quote from showrunner Eric Kripke regarding Hughie being SA'd by his childhood hero: "Well, that’s a dark way to look at it! We view it as hilarious. The idea of Spider-Man going down to be kink tickled in the Batcave is just too good to pass up. I’m sorry, I just couldn’t leave that on the table."
It's meant to be funny. Please forget that the first and only good season had more respect and thought put into similar actions as commentary of #MeToo, SA is now supposed to be grounds for a cheap laugh.
Tek knight is the diddy of the boys verse
Aint no party like a Tek knight party
Fun thing about Webb Weaver is that he only appeared in a cover of the comic book. And he appears in one panel hanging upside down pretty much showing he’s dead. Atleast he gets a character in the show for the screen time he has.
My only problem with episode 6 was the SA going on a bit too long but that didn’t make the whole episode bad lmao.
People are genuinely trying to say the whole season is bad because of a section from a show that has been edgy from the start.
Let’s not act like the season has been the best, especially with some of these plot lines. Episode 4 Kinda seems like the breaking point for some people
Yqll gotta stop meatriding this filler ahh season
@@mishaaskar if it wasn’t soldier boy last season was basically filler too. And they just put that mf in I’ve again
But It wasn't that people liked it for not being as tasteless and edgy as the comics???
imo it was long because it the first time teknight does something in the main series, people who didnt watch gen v dont know who he is and how much of a degenerate he is
I do find it weird how the first thing Eric says is "That's a dark way to look at it." Obviously that would be addressed towards the "SAed after dad's death" prtion of the question. You wouldn't say that to a question like "Where did the idea for the sex dungeon come from?" So it seems he's implying the reporter is taking Hughie's SA more seriously than he is.
Then in the second paragraph of Eric's answer, when he talks about why he added the scene, he comes off as being eager to do it. Listing reasons like wanting to monkey paw Jack's request. *"That was a story that Jack had always asked us to do. So part of it is, always be careful what you ask the writers for."* or just really wanting to see spiderman get tickled in the batcave. *"and the idea of Spider-Man going down to be kink tickled in the Batcave is just too good to pass up. I’m sorry, I just couldn’t leave that on the table."*
Thoughout Eric's entire DIRECT response to the question of why they added hughie's SA scene, he talks about doing it for his own satisfaction. Yes he goes into a more serious, heartfelt response about how the SA is gonna play a role into his character development, but he does it way later in a different question. Such a response could've been the first thing he said when he addresses the addition of the SA scene.
Weird cuz i didn't see this energy from him with starlight and deep who all be it was bad but nowhere near as bad as hughie, erik is known to just do shit fr his own dumb reasons even tek knight who really was a hero with unfortunate brain damage in the comics turned him into some racist evil rapist becuz erik thinks batman is a fascist
It’s very interesting how you guys are just all over the Huey thing, but Homelander has sexually abused more than one person
Especially in season four he sexually abused two people why aren’t you guys on that and why do you guys keep looking at Homelander as the best character ever much hypocrisy
@@Christian_Ada1you're either a child or have room temperature level iq or you're just rage baiting
@@Christian_Ada1Being a good person doesn't equal being a good character, I havent watched the boys but even I know that Homelander is meant to be seen has a piece of shit.
@@malikpierre-louis3343 Unfortunately not everyone understands that. There are people out there that legitimately think that Homelander is honest to god hero.
The off brand Spider-Man is so sus bro lol
Cool
“Off brand spiderman” is crazy
Webweaver is a real Spider-Man bro
@@taigaseji who?
@@thegreatacolyt1277you ain’t watch?
I feel like a lot of ppl are missing the point of tasteful SA scenes. There is never a need to show intense rape scenes, they could have done it much better and especially with a character we are attached to and have been built up with. SA is not the same as murder, SA is experienced by way more people than murder is. SA victims shouldn’t be forced to watch an SA scene get played up for laughs and then have people tell them it’s for the plot, cuz it’s not you can write literally anything else other then SA and still get the point across or do like they did with starlight and just not show it or like in little reindeer where they showed it but didn’t glorify it
If you haven’t experience SA it’s hard to understand but scenes like that just encourage and downplay it. They make people think that rape is funny and can be laughed at. This can alienate viewers that were abused and can also make other viewers that may be perpetrators feel justified in their act. Another good example is homelander forcing the scientist to jack off. They didn’t show anything, they didn’t show his dick or even the hand movements just focused on his face. The scene was uncomfortable and supposed to make you uncomfortable, homelander laughing was a clear indicator that this was bad. But it also felt justified as homelander was sh’d as a child by that very man in a way. Hughie’s never done that to anyone and was already dealing with a lot of emotional turmoil that got focus, a rape scene was not needed at all to be the catalyst he could have reached that point solely on his own. Like the mission could have just been rough and he felt bad and then realised his grief, rape is never needed to drive the plot.
I think the shapeshifter incident confirms more than anything that Kripke doesn’t give a fuck about Hughie or male victims of sexual assault.
What are you talking about?
@@Ash-Winchester In the episode starlight gets pissed at Hughie for sleeping and marrying the clone Instead of feeling bad for hughie
@@DonaldJTrump224 I know that. Colorlover's comment makes it sound like Hughie was SA'd by the shapeshifter when he wasn't.
@@Ash-Winchester Hughie was raped he was tricked into sleeping with someone who he thought was his gf hell literally irl it's a crime to tell a girl your a director and shit when your not to trick them into sleeping with you
@@Ash-Winchester he was SA'd by the shifter considering in real life it's a crime to lie about who you are to sleep with someone I can't go up to a girl and say I'm a Hollywood producer if you sleep with me you can be a star cause that's SA Hughie was convince that he slept with his girlfriend but instead it was someone else so he was SA'd and they made starlight get mad at Hughie for being SA'd and even convinced to marry the shifter
While I don’t personally agree, I find the argument of “you didn’t need to show it” completely understandable. You never have to personally show anything, but I think if they included an SA warning beforehand, I think that would have been warranted to do so
You kind of know what you signed up for… like how you should expect to watch sex scenes in “Challengers” but if you mean to say to drop a hotline due to a possible trigger warning, I mean the absurdity lies in the situation he’s in, I think it’d be really hard for someone to fully relate to what he’s going through.
@@Iwatoda_Dorm Exactly and most people would find the trigger warning (in a film/series) as something potentially annoying cause they feel they already know, by seeing the age restriction and what the series talks about, what they will eventually watch
I mean at this point, why would you expect a warning after everything that was shown in the Boys?
@@blacksmoke6292they did it in herogasm which wasn’t even close in terms of discomfort
Nahhh herogasm was worst, this.... This is just gross and kinky. Tek Knight Cave is two girls one cup, Herogasm is Hugh Hefner's house@@Coleymoleyart
Its not that they showed the drawn out scene its that they didnt handle SA with the care and seriousness it needs to be handled with because there is already a big problem with downplaying male sexual assault. In the moment they were caring but then everything after its never brought Hughie almost acts like he forgot about it. All of that alone i wouldnt really have a problem with but this show has shown how to handle SA and chose to make Hughies less serious
I have no problem with the Hughie SA at all. I don't think they treated the whole thing wrong, I just think they wasted too much time on it.
My only problem with the chapter was that I feel like Tek Knight was wasted, I genuinely think the comic did a better job with it.
I mean, Tek Knight was mentioned several times since season 1, his f/cking name is Tek Knight and the closest we get to seeing his suit is a picture of the fighting video game that Ryan plays.
At the very least they could have made him wear it to show off or something, I don't know, I was disappointed that he was just a fet*shistic Sherlock Holmes.
Yeah I feel like budget shouldn’t have been too big of an issue for just showing a static suit in the background at least
I liked the take that Homelander found him to be irrelevant (unlike how Superman and Batman are like best buds). As well as talking about the prison-industrial complex. But saying Batman is a fascist undertones (which is oversatured opinion but can still be handled well, but at the very least all Superheros would be up for that then) for hunting down poor people is an awful take. I understand if it was a parody of a Batman if he was placed in the corporatism of The Boys’ world, but to say that was the 1:1 relation is silly. Though Tek Knight being into BDSM was also a good parody idea, have you seen Catwoman. I also think how he handles fascist elements and how it is driven by hate and anger with Stormfront in S2 was good and is generally good though
@@immortalpickle3104 Looking at the characterization I think it's fine, one complaint I have is that they were not very subtle and it felt more like a character from the comic than from the series.
My complaint revolves around the fact that more could have been done with the character, since season 1 Tek Knight has been mentioned to us, several small mentions, I would like to highlight that there is a woman who says "Tek Knight broke my back", I really feel It was somewhat disappointing how little we saw of him since, beyond the prisons, he did not contribute much to the plot and could easily be replaced.
Even so, I hope that perhaps Laddio will have a role in the future, perhaps as a new Tek Knight grabbing the previous one's armor and helping The Boys, I don't know, I genuinely wanted to see that suit, even if it was in an image with an 4ss looking CW costume.
@@Coleymoleyart I was content with him walking around in the suit at the convention or appearing in newspapers, I don't know, even Ryan playing with him in that Mortal Kombat parody would have been enough for me.
There aint no party like a Tek Knight party 🗣🔥🔥
"Gentlemen, if it's got a hole... I can fuck it!" 🔥🔥💯💯💯
As a male who’s actually been thru SA, it was treated right, it’s not something people wanna talk about and it wasn’t played for laughs we could tell that hughie was horrified the whole time these people that keep arguing about it don’t have the perspective of going through it, so they rly dk what they are talking about, When hughie opens up to starlight that’s when she jumps to comfort him, she understood that it’s not something that you just bring up it’s something the person themselves had to bring up, I thought personally this was done great especially with the extra compartmentalization that hughie is going through with the death of his father
I agree. What was all the outrage for
Because the showrynners comments.
Even though in the show you see hughie break down, the showrunner said it was "hilarious."
The director said it was meant to be still be hilarious
Omg I’m so glad there’s this comment I’ve also been SA’d as a male and I find it kind of weird how people are like “oh you can’t depict it this way”. I’ve yet to see people that have actually been SA’d complain about this.
@@willoesd2449 so a person has to disclose whether or not they have been SA'd to determine whether the scene is bad? Yikes.
Bro the deep assaulting starlight was an INSANELY important storyline moment for the show, wtf are you talking about its not really important??
i still love the show but goddamn half the episode was just weird as hell
Straight up freaky
@@warmice16writers barely disguised fetish
I'll never look at chocolate cake the same way again.
That Cade guy was just going in circles. Props to y’all for even engaging with people like this and keep your cool.
10:44 I think the reason the scene played out as long as it did was to showcase the urgency at which the rest of the gang was needing to get to him
The whole episode was about them bugging the party to find stuff out and then one of their guys on the inside goes dark and they have to pull him out. The tension building up to Kimeko saving Hughie was so palpable I was fucking relieved as fuck see that door open and her kicking the shit out of that asshole
The whole time I wasn’t laughing or even hardly chuckling at Huggies predicament. I was thinking “bro GET THIS MAN OUTTA THIS WIERD SHIT WTF”
It was uncomfortable with a dirty edge of humor that was only played at the parts that made sense, i.e. Hughie guessing the safe words and getting more nervous at the stunts became more and more depraved. And even then, I’d hardly call it humorous, more or less uncomfortable as fuck.
The only thing hilarious in the episode was them giving tech-knights millions away and Sister Sage actin a fool after getting shot. Other than that….it was a very intense, stressful and emotional episode.
But most are harping on Hughies abuse and this article.
I will say the wording of the creator in the article, if true, doesn’t spin it in a good light at all.
That's fair.
Every defense of this scene you gave could be applied to the scene from season 1
The Hughe assault dragged on for too long. Tho something that dissapointed me was that Tek Knight was wasted in this episode and immediately killed off in it.
When I first saw him in Gen V, I was HYPED to see him in the Boys.
But instead of being a cool recurring villain throughout the season, he SAs Hughe for nearly 40 mins in cringeworthy and disgusting scenes.
On top of that, we didn't even get to see his suit, like if we saw it as a prop in the Tek Cave (Which I was hoping for), it would've been ok.
Man, he was much better in Gen V than in the main show!
Oh get a grip
What SA are you talking about? The tickling of his feet?
Him sitting on a cake remember, he went into that mansion under his own decision. No one forced him to go as a matter fact, they were telling him not to go to work, but he went in anyway.
They didn’t kidnap him to have their way with him. They thought it was the actual web Weaver.
Why you guys making a narrative out of nothing? Is there an agenda here? Why are men crying lately in 2024 like a bunch of snowflakes
usually agree with your points and i like the boys but honestly everytime they do somthing that is sexually violating it just comes off as poor taste and shock value. I think S3 Episode 1 with Termite was too much and i think the marty scene was too much, the dick explosion scene in Gen V is too much and this 40min mission where Hughie is basically Violated as a Bplot was too much and it just seems like they get away with it because its Sexual Assult against men and majority of it is played for laughs. This shit wouldnt slide if it were a woman and it shouldnt. These types of scenes are vile and bring my hype down a little. 1 few second scene where Hughie tells Annie doesnt justify the back half of the episode maybe if it was a quick scene but not a whole ass Bplot. To further my point most reactions to those scenes on youtube are seen as a joke and Hughie comfronting annie about it majority of reactors found it funny until they see Hughie start to cry and realize it wasnt. That speaks volumes of how media dictates how we see male sexual assult
He is NOT gone hear this bro, it’s WAY to sensible and thought out, he can’t just mindlessly shit talk it so that’s a NO go🙏🏿😭
finally someone who isn't meatriding Colin or this show because its SuPposed To Be EdGy
Thats because the writers are untalented hacks who coasted of the first season being good then heavily relied on mindless gore and sex for shock value instead of making it coherent. Add a dash of ramping up the political angle to an absurd degree and recycling plot lines constantly, and we have ourselves a bonafide stinker on our hand that Colin and his meat riders assure us is mana from heaven.
I tend to agree. However, I did think season 2 was damn good and 3 had some great moments.
4...ehhh mediocre at best. Wheel-spinning.
It was awkward, but what else is new for The Boys.
People just like to create problems out of context for no reason its just sad
Especially when its a show like the boys where people have sorta just decided they dont like it anymore, after S3 alotta cracks showed, and people complained, and ive noticed a bunch of brain dead people are taking those issues, and applying them to S4, they really lack the ability to form their own opinion, they just think what they're told, of course there's also the crowd that just hates it cuz politics, but for example people have said "its just repeating character arcs" yet this season has finally moved on from what S2-3 did which was absolutely recycling character arcs
Nah, this problem is completely in context. Kripke put a ton of work into making sure the SA of his main female character was handled in a sensitive way. But with his main male character he didn’t give a shit how it was portrayed and played it for laughs.
@@fobo3361 It’s objectively true that S4 IS recycling character arcs for certain characters. Frenchie is once again feeling guilty over his past as a hit man, MM is once again dealing with drama regarding his ex wife and daughter, and Hughie is once again taking his father for granted. It’s all stuff we’ve seen before.
Only Butcher and Homelander actually have unique and fresh character arcs. Once again, those two are carrying the show
@@fobo3361they’re obviously forming their own opinion by the looks of it but yeh claim that like you even know what it means to form an opinion🤦🏽♀️
It’s obviously in context if people are talking about the very thing that’s there and unfolding, it seems wrong for ANYONE going through SA to be portrayed as a joke. They took starlight through a more serious approach but yeh we’ll completely ignore what’s happening to hug his like it’s no problem
I think the problem is The Boys tries to be nuanced unlike the comics but this episode handles SA relative to Hughie so poorly that it feels like edginess for the sake of edginess like the comics did.
For real. The episode was in no way supporting sa, but it did a terrible job in handling it.
I think both this and Gen V have been kind of gratuitous about every SA scene. Annie's scenes were meant to shock too and there is always this sense of them having their cake and eating it too, no pun intended. Hughie's scenes were handled with even less sensitivity though. I kind of roll my eyes at Eric Kripke constantly trying to outdo the shock factor of previous series.
I really don’t know what reality you guys are in, but the show has always done violence for the sake of doing violence to try to be edgy. There were things I shouldn’t have been done because it didn’t actually propel the story that’s been happening since season one, but you guys are crying about it now because of Hughie
You guys are funny as hell because you guys because you haven’t mentioned anything about Homelander sexually attacking the three people in season 4 itself, you guys are just in about Hughie
So Homelander sexually attacking people doesn’t bother you guys right?
Oh, because you think Homelander is cool and when the best written characters ever
@@Christian_Ada1 No, because Hughie is someone I’ve seen develop on screen and grown to actually care for as a character. Get over yourself dawg. Violence and sexual violence are two very different things.
@@Christian_Ada1name me one mf who said they were ok with homelander SAing people that’s literally why he is unredeemable stop putting words in our Mouths dumbass, and did Kripke say “Oh it was hilarious to us” when he was talking about Beccas SA no he wasn’t he took it very seriously along with starlight’s but with Hughies who is a male gets SA it is played off as a joke as said by Kripke THATS THE DIFFERENCE and why everyone is “crying” about it if it was kimiko in that suit Kripke would have never said “oh we found it hilarious” fuck you for trying to downplay SA to men bet you would have a different take if you had a Son
I hate how soft some are like yeah don’t show it if it’s too bad but if it plays to a bigger role (ex. Revenge arc, or something) showing it could justify ruthlessness and bitterness along the way twords some other characters he or she might encounter. Like if you are easily triggered the show tells you to turn it off 🙄
The point isn’t even if it’s too gruesome to be shown on screen, the point is that you’re undermining your show if you portray it in a sloppy way, which is the takeaway. People (including myself) loved how the Netflix show Baby Reindeer covered SA topics because they treated those topics with the maturity needed, thus it didn’t undermine its point like The Boys did.
literally nothing happens either like what? no penis was shown, no genitalia, all that was seen was hughies feet getting tickled and him sitting on a cake, im sorry but those are literally the safest things they could show, can’t believe this is the marker of someone undermining sa but ok, feel like people are just finding any excuse to hate on the show and writer like who is actually bothered by that scene and i assume it’s a bunch of puritanical christian ppl who believe sex is a sin, also crazy how a scene like this is taken to serious and not all the other scenes of death and sa like jesus christ way to pick the dumbest moment to fight about
@@richardbolas You sound like an actual person that would commit sexual assault without even realizing it. He is being made to do demeaning things for the sexual pleasure of other people against his will. The fact that it’s played for laughs when the showrunner wants us to pat him on the back for his depiction of sexual assault in season 1 is incredibly gross.
@@KinoFlexReviews i already wrote like 3 other comments about this topic, also no, tek knight was literally under the impression it was web weaver under the costume? in tek knights mind it was a consensual thing till he then realized it was hughie, everything after that is completely fucked up, also that’s a crazy thing to say like what, i literally wrote about how other scenes could be considered sa liek the one with sage when she’s in a disoriented state of mind and the deep sleeping with her also the deep forcing his partner into sleeping with an octopus, or the deep putting his dick in annie’s face, or the women in russia with kimiko, i know what sa is im not stupid, i just dont think this scene is the best representation of sa being under minded that’s all
@@KinoFlexReviews also when did he say he wants a pat on the back he is literally just answering questions that were asked to him, and also the way he portrayed annie’s sexual assault was very well done, genuinely a great scene and example of the way women are sa’ed especially by those in positions of power
The show is suffering from lazy ass writing and double standards . Which is really disappointing, especially after watching gen v which was miles better then season 3.
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@@C0LIN.The Boys Season 1 and 2 are a satirical commentary on mainstream superhero media, while 3 and especially 4 BECAME mainstream superhero media.
@@alekslic3385my guy shut up
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I think the biggest arguments against are
1. The experience Hughie had, though not rape, feels like being raped. It's sex you have no control over.
If he knew the job meant getting Ashley's arm up his ass, he wouldn't have taken it.
2. People who've experienced sa or know someone who experienced sa are fully in their right to want a warning.
3.The people who don't think sex scenes are necessary in other media will not give up that belief just bc The Boys is The Boys.
4.There was a warning on Herogasm, but not this one.
5.Kripke's response "thats a dark way of seeing it, we thought it was funny" only applies to the sa, bc the confrontation comes in only when they bring up something that was intended as a joke, but not seen as one by the interviewer.
FINALLY FOUND A SANE UTUBER TALKING ABOUT THIS, THANKS COLIN
12:30 I think people forget that both ashley and teck knight were under the impression the hughie was web weaver. Who is most certainly into all of that stuff, it's weird to think they just added a scene where he gets assaulted.
Hughie is still suffering from sexual acts he doesn’t consent to and struggles to get out of which is presented as a joke.
bigbunjeeeeee was right
How come nobody mentioned Homelander's SA of the guy (Marty?) in the basement lab?
There was a different tone present in that scene. That shit was was not funny and nobody thought otherwise, or if they did, they were a very quiet minority.
Not funny.
At all.
It was all horrific, without any real levity. Tonally different.
The Tek-Knight dungeon stuff was played for laughs while it was happening. It really was.
You know things are bad when the showrunner actually finds sexual assault against men funny 💀
Did you even watch the video ?
@@warmice16 yes, and the guy literally thought it was funny. The boys is a shit show
@mehdimb676 when asked about serial assault he says "that's a dark way to look at it" also Hughie literally got r*ped in the newest episode
thats not what he said lmao, bros got the media literacy of a rock
@@aetheriox463 says the Boys defender, that shows become ass now
The last 5 minutes where the guy is trying to argue that they don't like Batman. He'd have to agree that they did this with every superhero in the show, and that's like basically all of the shows premise, so why is he watching it
How much you wanna bet that their favorite character is the Deep because of how funny he is
Sounds like your projecting to point where you have to assume that anyone who hates this season MUST love the Deep. Unbelievable.
Honestly this was the worst episode of the boys it was just such a badly done poorly written episode, the writing is clunky and I don’t get how they can just waste a whole episode this close to the end, it feels like the characters aren’t moving or getting anywhere. Especially during the SA scene the writing gets super clunky and it seems like the writers don’t know if they want to make it a joke or emotional, it really looks like the point was for that shocking crazy scene, I like season 4 for the most part but it’s episodes like these that get me worried for the future
Bingo.
I don’t know… was it bad because they portrayed it so strongly? Because by the end of it was hard to watch for sure, and it feels like the distaste for most people is only based on how much they felt uncomfortable, which I think was its goal… right? And I get the need for the funny, it made it digestible at first honestly- but it honestly drove the point home even harder.
I think people are simply getting twisted by focusing on the shock value humor as the main target, but not understanding that it helped drive the tension to the point it boiled to.
Its becoming like the comic but it made one of the better characters on the comic worse
This^^^^ it literally became harder and harder to watch as well as the fact that Hughie got found out by the end of it all
The whole time I was like “yo plz get this man out of here omfg”
The relief when Kimeko kicked that asshole was so nice
And I’m glad we got the ending we did with Hughie acknowledging that not only was the shit that happened to him not okay, but that HE is not okay. Especially after the death of his dad
Feels like everyone is going thru some shit right now and it’s all so that we can have season 5 be fully focused on one thing….kill homelander
Not that it wasn’t the goal already, but y’know, final season and all 🤷🏾♂️
@@chandlerbursedefinitely set him back when I don’t think it was necessary.
Though not sure if it would’ve made a difference if they replaced anyone else in the role
Maybe had they gone about getting the info a different way it could’ve worked??? But I can’t really think of another way to get the info they got from Nueman
There was zero need to include ashley sa hughie in such detail. the feet liking, arousal wiping, ect. could have easily implied it but instead they went too far here. This had nothing to do with the plot and went too far all for a lame spiderman joke.
These writers are starting to ruin the show
We dont need a sa scene to realize what hughies going through, and we dont need a sa scene for tension to build with tek knight. There are a thousand other ways this could have been written. Dont settle just because you wanna like the show.
Oh sa is over the line with the boys 🤣 come on I understand if its uncomfortable for you but your talking about the show THE BOYS 🤣 wtf
Objectively, sa isn't crossing the line, but the way the writers handled it was poor when compared to how they handled other sensitive topics in the past.
There is development i these scene. As Ashley is assaulting him Hughie echoes the lines "im fine, im totally fine" the juxtaposition does work for the episode.
Only tangentially related, but Brown Widow from Venture Bros. remains the only good Spider-Man parody.
I find it to be quite the false equivalence of why we don't see Starlight's sexual assault, and we see Hughie's.
Let me set the IRL society issue here. We tend to keep reporting this whenever a woman gets Sexual assault or abused, but that gets less reported when it happens to a man. You can say both are disgusting, but do you have a frame of reference on how bad it is? That's one point.
Another thing is, Hughie needs to not get caught and it'll feel like Hughie is a failure if it's presented that he got caught quickly since we weren't there to see it and how long it lasted. As for Starlight, the point there is to prove is that she was vulnerable new girl against what she assumes is a higher rank member of the group she works for. There's no more nuance to bring, because we seen or heard of these reports quite often. In comparison to Hughie trying to sneak in, only to be caught off guard by it being a sex dungeon where he needs to play along. That's too specific for anyone to get an idea how that'll go. That's another point
Lastly, and another realistic point, we know these characters more than enough so for us to gravitate more for them is by showing how bad it is for him even though he's bottling it up given what happened to him recently. Again, feeling uncomfortable is part of the point of The Boys if there's a point on the matter at hand. Just like MM having a inconvenient panic attack while trying to save him. It's always trying to keep you guessing how bad can it go. Only to receive some relief when A-train comes in and gives a quick hand so they'll live for another day.
So why do people excuse Homelander SA to characters on the show when he was trying to have the deep blow a train?
Or when Homelander had that guy play with himself in front of everyone isn’t that sexual abuse how come no one was talking about that?
Yeah, people still love Homelander like some kind of Hero
i don't know what world you live in but who tf loves homelander like some kind of a hero wtf are you talking about that makes for about 1% of the show's audience?
They legit un alived Tech knight right after what he did...The Deep is still alive, so who really was seen as the worse person?
I honestly personally think tech knight is worse. Obviously they’re both awful, but the deep does terrible things because he thinks of himself as a freak. He hurts other people to distract from his own pain
Tech knight tries to hurt hugie just for his own disgusting satisfaction
Obviously I’m not trying to justify the horrible things the deep does, but I do think it makes him a little more understandable compared to tech knight.
@@chgjake2230understandable does not equal less evil, the deep knew what he was doing, he was blackmailing starlight, say what you will about tek knight but for most of the dungeon scene he was under the impression web weaver was under the mask, also tek knight explained he would have to kill hughie or turn him into homelander that’s why he goes full crazy sex maniac once he realizes it’s hughie, so the sa wasn’t even gonna be the worst part, he was literally gonna get killed right after like huh?
@@richardbolas I understand where you're coming from, but I disagree on a fundamental level. I think someone who is pushed to the point of doing evil things is inherently less evil than someone who does evil things for their own pleasure.
I honestly think they're both irredeemable, but I still think tech knight is (was) more evil than the deep, even if the difference is relatively insignificant in the grand scheme of morality.
edit: nvm, the deep is pretty explicitly enjoying doing terrible shit this season, so I think they're about the same.
AIN'T NO PARTY LIKE A TEK KNIGHT PARTY 🗣️🗣️🗣️
The boys just turned into everything I hate about the comic
Then you’re being a hypocrite because the show has always been very odd and also homoerotic
And also extremely very, very very woke
It goes to show that you guys are very very hypocritical and that’s not good in today’s society to be a hypocrite
Crazy your guys cope level. He is saying what everyone thinks he is and the context proves it moreso.
Idk man..the tone was just... weird. I just gender-swap it in my head and.. yeah. Idk, don't want to go all MRA or anything, I'm no fan of that idiot Uncritical Drinker, don't get me wrong. This is just my own personal take, and the tone of that...Grand Guignol of Violation was just...off.
I'm aware i haven't dissected the episode with devastating media literacy and Socratic acumen, but it's all I got right now.
I *suppose* it could be justified as a psychodrama following the death of his Dad, but i don't believe that was the intention and It's weak as an interpretation. So i come back to: tone.
I'm basically doing a vibe-check. The vibe was *waaaaay* off. I'm with your man who invoked Ari Aster.
Damn, i finished typing this comment just as Ari Aster started talking. Great minds think alike i guess.
Cheers guys. Good faith discussions are always welcome in these times of hot-takes and thoughtless "critique".
I think people might just be tired of the joke being this character is a deviant
Tek knight in the comic was honestly better
Stop with the cope. Season 4 is terrible.
People are taking it to seriously, it's like stop babying people, you don't need a warning in front of everything to save people from getting triggered or something, it wasn't that great of a scene but people need to relax
It's SA dude. Ofc it's going triggering. It's not that hard to do the decent thing and to add a warning.
@@Mr.Murasakino can't go through life expecting a trigger warning before every bit of content, you either work towards overcoming or you let it cripple you.
@@burtonthegrape9217 I am all for overcoming trauma but it won't come fast. It's a slow process and adding heavy stuff without a warning hardly if ever helps someone overcome it.
2:20 “the depth” *insert the deep jumpscare*
these ppl should be glad its not a 1:1 adaptation of the comics
The comics actually treated the topic better.
@@KinoFlexReviews also ennis parodied superheros but he atleast liked (some of) them it seems like kripke just hates heros
kripkes response keeps being taken out of context because he was answering multiple questions in one and it’s altering everyones opinions on the scene. what was supposed to be funny was the the concept of knock off batman with a sex cave. he doesn’t say the actual assault of hughie is played for laughs rather the fact that the real knock off spider-man was going to go get kinky with batman.
@@johnafing5432 he literally says it was meant to be “still funny”
@@johnafing5432 everyone says one thing or another what i read was not out of context if it was accurate
You guys are all insufferable
Dude you just messed the the opportunity to use web weaver as the vtuber
13:20 bro thinks that if he says big words then he is making a good point lmao
Yo meet the Johnson’s is wild. Dude said I want everyone to watch it
Like bruh people was laughing at that because of how RIDICULOUS the plot is there’s tons of other media that have a better approach for male SA
Vro said discharge was smegma 😭
Oh nah💀💀
Lol, I think he meant grool💀
18 seconds ago 0 veiws bro fell off hard
I fell in
I’m cooked
People that are upset with this, which is somewhat fair, should NEVER read the comic😭
I'm SO SORRY for laughing bro, jeez 😭
The drama is weird, but you have to admit that was the worst episode of the show by far!!!!
People have gotta stop defending batman.
I haven’t seen the show and not gonna watch the video for spoilers I’ll get back when I watch episode 6 but how could if be worse than Herogasm?
Nah it wasnt needed to show because with the logic he said of we need to see hughie break down or whatever then we should see starlight go through the deeps abuse to set the tone of how bad it was
I find it strange that a lot of people have a problem with the writer taking hughie scene as comedy. I mean it's a dark humorous show so and the scene was very clearly written to be uncomfortable but have comdey aspects. I didn't laugh at every part but some of it got me chuckling
I was okay with those scenes, it didnt made me laugh at all but I understand that it was for the shock value and maybe it just wasnt my type of humour. The only problem for me was Hughie crying at the end of the episode, it took away all the fun that those scenes could possibly have, I mean, bro was traumatized, it aint funny.
People have a problem because they know that if Hughie had been replaced with a female character, the scene would not be comedic at all.
Starlight’s SA in season 1 was taken very seriously and there was nothing comedic about it. But with Hughie they didn’t take it seriously at all.
Because it didnt feel like it was meant to be comedic
@@chandlerburse i mean. you can tell by the tone of voice and weridness that it's comdey. Some people are simply way to uncomfortable to laugh i was the same for some of the scenes
@@jameslough6329thats not necessarily true if the comics had it switched around then it probably play differently the difference is. Starlight situation was for character development, hughie wasn't so his was a joke more then serious but even then Starlight had jokes during her scene
Web Weaver’s suit is kind of weird ICL
Y'all are terrible debators.
Then come on the stream
@@C0LIN. im a terrible debator too.
@@PrivateGalanlearn with us then, we can practice the art of debate 🗿
@@s.k.4289still trying to act like the smartest man in the room huh spud?
@@PrivateGalan Honesty is the best policy. I appreciate that
tbh, Hughie only get his feet tickled and stuff, that's the SA part. What Starlight had to do was much more graphics.
He was a literal sex slave. That’s just as bad if not worse.
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I mean batman was a fascist in multiple media like in kingdom come, the justice lords, Christian Bale Batman. Dude legit had constant surveillance on everyone and the movie was trying to show him as in the right because the city could not protect it self. Also batman has psychological issues himself with his own trauma and how he deals with it creating rules for himself and codes dressing up as a bat, and even lets villains kill themselves sometimes as a loop hole for his kill rule. I am saying this to show that batman maybe smart, but he is not right all the time when it comes to decision making he makes mistakes and get people killed though his inaction and action. Like can't ignore Joker killing off one of his teenage sidekicks on his watch no less.
He wasnt a fascist in Bale batman wtf
He had constant surveillance……ONCE and he only needed that to find Joker and then he destroyed it
Also this has nothing to do with the show
Tek knight in the comics was actually decent guy with a horrible condition
So you don’t know what a fascist is. A fascist is someone who supports or promotes fascism-a system of government led by a dictator who typically rules by forcefully and often violently suppressing opposition and criticism, controlling all industry and commerce, and promoting ethno-nationalism and often racism. This has nothing to do with Batman. Even if you want to try and argue that Batman is using force to keep the peace, he is responding to force with force.
@@KinoFlexReviewsAnd everything you just said is what Fascists say to try and convince people they're not Fascists.
I love how the guy that colin is disagreeing with makes points like " well you dont have to show that " when you can say that about almost anything that shows something bad like SA or murder its like yeah but also for the boys case its not just shock value it tells the story of what happened ALSO if you can handle something like these scenes then why are you watching the boys?? people get killed it terrible ways there are too many sex scenes to count and yet your complaining about this? again why watch something you wouldnt like from season 1 and then watch the whole damn show
I get where the guy is coming from, but I completely agree with you
Show don’t tell is the most basic and common form of criticism in visual storytelling. And the problem isn’t the subject matter being depicted, it’s that the subject matter isn’t handled well.
@@KinoFlexReviews so why is it not handled well
They didnt just blow it off like nothing if thats what your so upset about it made hue ie break down at the end it was not some shock value cutaway if you watched the video then he brought up why it was handled fine idk what your on about
@@NighttimezzGoofyahh By playing off Hughie’s abuse as funny. It doesn’t matter how Hughie himself feels in the scene, it is still portrayed as if it is a joke.
The Spider-Man is suspicious 🤤
I dont really get this, they have always done this, why is it only a problem now that they show it. The impact would obviously not be as big if they just said that it happened, its a part of the plot, and it shows ashleys personality. And regardless they didnt even do that much, its not like hughie was getting his inside rumbled around. Its just feels like complaining to complain
Because this is a traumatic scene played for laughs, when a similar traumatic scene was done for Starlight it was played straight with no jokes. It’s not the having SA in the show that’s the issue, it’s their presentation of it.
@@KinoFlexReviews how is it played for laughs. I for sure werent laughing watching that scene. If you were maybe blame it on yourself instead of the show, it never had any haha funny moments besides the cake scene. Everything else felt uncomfortable and weird and tbh the cake scene also felt uncomfortable, but atleast it had some humor in it. But if you watched those scenes and genuinely thought they were only there for laughs you are fucked in the head ngl
@@Yakonsupremacy The framing of the scene is no different from how other comedic scenes are portrayed in the show. The dialogue is also blatantly meant to be comedic and get laughs. Oh and also, the showrunner literally says that it was supposed to be funny!
@@KinoFlexReviews yes the scene was also showing how the characters in the scene would typically act, what did you want them to do? I for one did not sit and laugh and thought it was funny, and i didnt find it amusing, it was more so disgusting. It was an uncomfortable sit through, i dont think anyone was putting on a big ol smile when hughie was crying and begging for mercy, and i dont think it was intended. If they had downplayed the situation, or hughie himself had downplayed it and laughed about it afterwards or whatever yes i would agree, but they didnt treat it that way, the butler even killed tec knight saying that he was a fucked up person, they didnt potrait it as being a goofy situation at all. How you got that from that scene is actually insane, watching someone getting sa’d and thinking it was put for laughs is insane. And how can you see hughie breaking down over it at the end and think it was just for shit and giggles.
SA? Are we children?
its for censorship reasons
this guy is the perfect guy to just watch and eat your dinner😌😌
Tbh have these people seen the previous seasons of the boys. It's obvious the show is doing to do uncomfortable shit. Like thh i think episode 1 with hughie's gf getting killed was way worse and more traumatic then this stuff
Yeah, except they usually play traumatic scenes straight and take the effects those scenes have on the characters seriously which is how they should be portrayed.
They didn’t do either of those things with Hughie’s SA and if Kripke’s comments are anything to go by, he never even thought about how traumatic the Tek Knight stuff would realistically before Hughie during filming (probably because he doesn’t take male SA seriously like a lot of people).
None of those are played as a joke tho
@@jameslough6329 But they literally did take it seriously. Hughie breaks down at the end of the episode and Starlight has to comfort him??
@@demetriusean He breaks down for like a minute and most of it is centred around his grief over his dad rather than what happened in the dungeon.
He only has ONE line to Starlight about his experience in the dungeon and it is again played in an unserious way.
If Hughie was a female character, half the episode would be her dealing with the trauma of what happened in the dungeon and absolutely none of what happened would in any way be comedic in nature
Who SA Hughie?
I’m so confused of the outrage
One she was just messing around with his feet and people forget that he went undercover on his own volition to enter the mansion. He wasn’t actually kidnapped and had things done to him, and they didn’t even know it was Huey because he was wearing a full costume.
People keep going about what the writers wrote in an interview. The show itself did not make fun of Huey, especially starlight. She was very affectionate and try to be there for him.
I still don’t understand
The ones who love making fun of those type of situations are never women. It’s usually men who make fun when another man gets. SA
Because I had an issue that happened to me in 1994 my uncle saw, and he laughed when it actually bothered me to no end
It’s not women laughing it’s other men laughing at other men going through SA
No ones laughing my dude
I think the things that happend are kind of funny, the cake, the tickles, hughie trying to guess the key word, it's funny because things haven't got really that bad, as viewers we're just hoping for the boys to get there on time before they do something really fucked up to him, Having some notion of what happends to him in the comic I terrified, still, not being able to do anything to escape a situation that you know will get worse is traumatizing, they were able to show it cause it didn't get that explicit and they knew the boys were going to be there on time.
But what happened to him is sexual abuse and it is just as bad as the sexual abuse Starlight suffered. The fact that you took enjoyment out of Hughie’s suffering really highlights why people had a problem with Kripke’s comments on his heartless indifference to the suffering he went through.
It's kinda ridiculous that they're calling it "male sexual assault" as if he was being forced to do something by tek knight. He was undercover, he had to do it because his cover would've been blown, funningly enough when tek knight threatened legitimate sexual assault, they stopped him and didn't show it
Getting your feet tickled is SA these days...
A woman masturbated using his feet to get off while he is strapped to a chair. She then proceeded to wipe the afterproduct on his face. He was in too deep to tell tek knight no or to run away by the time he discovered how freaky he really was. The fact that hughie was sexually assaulted is not debatable dawg.
Thank you finally somebody said it
also ridiculous how some people think it's "worse" than what starlight went through? Since when was getting your feet tickled worse than getting mouth r*ped
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Its good
Lol just skip the bdsm shit that's what I did cause I was eating.
I have a request for Collin. You have a couple of videos where you react and talk about UA-camrs video where they did dumb discussions about a game or a type of media. Can you please do this again to the UA-camr known as “SHOHEI KONDO”. He recently posted a video going over Assassins Creed Shadows and his opinions on it. In my opinion it was one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. For a phew moments I thought I was listening to a 15 year old who can’t roast. I just feel that something needs to be said ,and can the people in the comments help like this comment so it goes to Collin.
You talk about someone’s inability to roast yet said absolutely nothing of substance other than saying a UA-camr made you cry over a take on a video game and how you need someone else to make a video on him because you’re either too lazy or mentally incompetent to do so.
I literally dont get the hate about episode 6 the episode is good and its not that disturbing like Ashley just tickled his feet and farted on a cake and i get hugie just lost his dad but he WAS about to get sa but thanks to kimko he was saved this is no different than then other seasons
Bro he was gonna cut holes into him and fck them, I think that’s in the very least pretty disturbing.
am i the only one that finds it disingenuous to compare the sa on starlight and the dungeon scenes with hughie? i feel like starlights is like a wayyyyy to common thing most women go through at some point in their lives, many times for a lot of them, and the dungeon scene was a lot more played up for drama, and like yeah obviously ppl do get kidnapped and put in dungeons in real life but it’s also a lot more out there than a woman being sa’ed by a man in a position of power, also the sa was definitely treated adequately it’s not like mm and frenchie went up to him and teased him about it, kimiko and starlight comforted him and helped him like what
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Can the other bro please stop STUTTERING LIKE GOD DAMN "ta ta ta TODAY JR!"
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Too many conservative snowflakes got triggered with ep6
Right cause sexual assault only pisses off people in politics
Liberals only care when women get SA'd but laugh when men get SA'd. It's almost like they have no respect for men. Who would've thought?
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It's really hilarious too. People were ok with the episode, until Eric came out & said it was played for laughs in an interview, while talking about the Starlight scene as some sort of landmine trekking moment.
I'm as liberal as they come, but I'm still pissed off with the SA scene. They did not write it with the weight it should have had, and it had to be intentional because they have handled SA in better ways with characters like Starlight. I've been defending the show from all the crybaby conservatives complaining about politics that was always there and going "oh its so woke", but this feels like a step too far with the way it was handled and shown.
@@ngultrum1i mean they are right to be a bit pissed