How many CONCORDE's were supposed to be BUILT???
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Did you know back in the 1960s, 18 different airlines had put down an order for the yet-to-be-built Concorde, summing up 75 Concordes in total?
But after the horrific crash of the Tupolev -144 at the Paris airshow in 1973, all airlines cancelled their orders. Except for Air France and British Airways, who were stuck with the project as their two governments were the ones financing and building them. Only 20 Concordes were built, and only 14 ever entered service!
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It was for more reasons than just the 144 crashing. Fuel costs and limited routes at Mach 2 were bigger reasons.
Where did you pull that number..the airliner jet has only one crash in its 30 years in service.
Oh the 144 Is the jet number
@@User-sb6er 2
Yes
That’s true, many countries didn’t want Concorde to go supersonic flying over them because of the loud boom, so it could only go supersonic on transatlantic flights. Not to mention it was expensive to operate, and used lots of its fuel in takeoff. Engineering triumph, yes, economical triumph? Unfortunately not
i think, they rather cancelled the orders because of the speed registrations (below mach 1) for the plane over land area which the USA created because their Boeing 2707 project was cancelled. It had (at least officially) nothing to do with the TU144. There was just no need for the plane for most airlines.
So, the sonic boom prevention laws existed before the aircraft were produced?
Odd that I remember it being the other way around. Especially given that, despite some thoughtless notions, the whole world isn't under US law.
Exactly this! Plus a bit of the oil price crisis
Wasn't it because of the disruptions on the ground due to the sonic booms created by the aircraft.
@@RudyG01 there weren't very many disruptions, as the boom was far enough away to avert damage, so there were only noise complaints.
That's why current research is heavy on sonic boom abatement and prevention.
@@spvillano no but that’s the point. They are only usable over sea. Pointless for across America. Hence the cancellation
The very special part is, technically Singapore Airlines had one. For the livery, it had British Airways on one side and Singapore Airlines on the other.
If I remember right, Singapore originally ordered the Concorde but suddenly cancel and left Concorde half finished paints. So that aircraft Singapore ordered goes to British Airways. I may be wrong.
@@joshuagelona5533 not really. SQ JV with BA for LHR-BOM-SIN. Bom as tech stop. Range was around 7hrs. Wasn't lucrative. Plane was for elites, celebs,n footballers, only 98 seats. Legend though. Cheers
@@conned interesting, thanks!
@@joshuagelona5533 so sorry,my mistake, the tech stop Bahrain, not Bombay or Mumbai as it's currently called. Malaysian n Indian govt wasnt too happy with the supersonic boom n we had to reroute north which wasn't allowed, Concorde could only fly over oceanic though cruise level was 60,000ft! U could see curvature of earth . Didn't have the range if we bypass India, after 1 year, 1980, route was discontinued. Just the take off climb fuel to 60,000 ft took 6000 gallons! In 45mins. Then 3000gallons during supersonic cruise. It was efficient at cruise due high stratosphere, most fuel was used just for take off. .even the 11$,000ticket couldn't cover operatingcosts n pilots salary...much less maintenance of highly stressed fuselage..
@@joshuagelona5533it wasn't because of spare parts. it was a joint project between the two airlines for the first supersonic flights to asia
The most beautiful commercial jet ever built.
Period.
This is the Concorde.
You don't like the A380 SuperSausage?
No, it's the TU-144
@@k.g.b.1150Tu-144 is to Concorde as Lada is to Rolls Royce
@@lastnamefirstname9043 If said Lada was faster and almost as technologically advanced as the Rolls Royce, then yes.
787? Far more beautiful
An aircraft that was ahead of its time and shrank the world. Friends of my family were lucky to fly on one many years ago.
You are the only one who thinks the golden age of air travel is worse.
@@CAL1MBOwho the hell said that?
What does the TU144 crash have anything to do with companies cancelling Concorde? What killed the Concorde was the 1st oil shock which made its high fuel consumption no longer affordable. It also did not help that Concorde could only fly supersonic over the oceans and that it could not cross the Pacific.
Exactly right
Don't know.... try finding articles from that time when the crash occured. If there was "fear" about SST's being potentially being too dangerous because they were "unproven" then those articles should hint at that. If so, maybe that was the legitmate excuse the airlines were looking for to cancel their orders. Those were some big names that placed orders - Pan Am, TWA, Eastern, Japan Airlines, Lufthansa....... If they all said they were concerned about safetfy or public perception of safety who would question them?
Why can’t it cross the pacific?
@@pigybak Small fuel tanks? I assume he means "non-stop", but even the early 747s couldn't do some Pacific routes without stopping at, say Hawaii or Fiji when flying From San Francisco to Sydney. Even the longer range 747-400 has problems with Los Angeles/Sydney if the prevailing winds are against it. Of course, the Concorde would have had no problems with Tokyo and the West Coast.
@@ImperrfectStranger and with bigger fuel tanks, it'd exceed takeoff weight.
Engines were anemic by modern standards, makes me wonder what my grandkids will be taking for granted when they reach my age.
I'm pretty sure when I was a kid living under the Heathrow flight path I saw a Singapore liveried Concorde fly over once. It would have been late 70s
That is true. British Airways had a deal with Singapore and SIA because the Singapore was sort of a gate to Asia-Pacific for Concorde. Very unique livery for the concorde registered G-BOAD was made, one side of it was British Airways Negus livery while the other was the Singapore Airlines livery!
Long story short ba made a deal with Singapore Airlines
lucky man.......
Im sureive Seen a Concorde in a singapore airlineslivery?anyone outthereknow the story??????????vor can confirm?i dont nkthat ASingaporeaielineshad a Concorde in service?
@@johannesfeigl5309My friends make so many typos previously that I actually understand this
As a kid, The concord was on my list to fly in when I grew up.
Not worth it. The thing with Concord the supersonic flight and transition to it was very smooth, no turbulence.
And the aircraft cabin is tiny: I have been in one. Your money would have been better spent on something else, such as flying lessons.
@@deang5622they want to fly on a Concorde not fly a plane themselves.
@@Matt_10203 Why do you assume I was talking about people wanting to fly Concorde when my post says nothing about that?
Do you regularly make assumptions with nothing to substantiate them?
You didn't make the original comment, you just replied. Why are you so angry? Nobody disputed you, someone just said their dream as a kid was to fly in a concorde, and then you replied to them for no reason. @@deang5622
@@deang5622because he saw the flying lesson on your comment
The Tu144 only crashed because the pilots were trying to show up Concorde. They entered a high G maneuver like they were flying a MiG and inevitably lost control.
Concorde lost orders due to the sonic booms overland and the smoke emanating from the engines which were still in development.
if i remember correctly a fighter jet touched it and blew a rudder or something causing the crash
@@fahdidrissiaatouf425There’s a common theory that a French Mirage 3 chase plane had spooked the TU-144s pilot into making the high g maneuver, as the Tu-144s crew hadn’t been told it would be flying near them. This is completely unproven; however, and it was more than likely pilot error that cause the plane to crash.
@@BrownSofaGamerthe poor workmanship on the aircraft’s construction also played a part in its demise.
@@fahdidrissiaatouf425Your thinking of the XB-70 Valkiary.
The crash didn't really have much to do with the order cancels. Too expensive to operate and the sonic boom issues.
Different crash.
That and America's jealousy!
A beautiful aircraft but very noisy taking off. I remember seeing it. And it was very fast. The Tu144 was never in the same league. They were very unstable. Concord was apparently perfection to fly. The final Air France crash was greatly unfortunate due to debris on the runway which punctured the wing tanks. If that hadn't happened, who knows what today's aircraft would be like. In the end the economic advantage of the 747 was to win over elegance and speed.
Not in the same league, but Tu144 was slightly faster than Concorde.
This is pure nonsense considering both aircraft have had numerous failures
The TU144 was a stand-alone project and a failure. It shouldn’t be mentioned in the same story as Concorde. Concorde was a technical marvel and gave birth to Airbus’ roots. And here we are.
Concord also crash landed and was a major disaster than tu 144 because it had more funding and still it failed.
@@noone7692 Comparing the Concorde crash and the TWO Tu-144 crashes doesn’t make any sense. Concorde crashed due to debris from a DC-10 causing damage to the aircraft. Both of the Tu-144 crashes were due to the aircrafts poor design and construction. At the Paris air show it broke up mid air, and the second crash was due to 3 of the 4 engines failing during a test flight before it was supposed to be sent to Aeroflot service. Also, Concorde wasn’t a failure like the Tu-144 because it did actually see commercial service for 30 years, and made a profit for the operating airlines. The Tu-144 saw no commercial use and that’s why it was a failure.
idk i think that makes it an extremely admirable effort given the circumstances/conditions the USSR was working with, its inherently interesting to me the way the soviets tried (and sometimes succeeded!) in matching the accomplishments of the west with very little to work with.
@@noone7692 it didn’t ‘crash land’. It ran over a piece of metal fallen off a Continental Airlines DC-10 thrust reverser, fitted by an incompetent Continental engineer. That blew its tyres, struck the fuel tank and caused a shockwave which blew it’s fuel tanks causing an explosion. That was the root cause. Concorde was a perfectly safe plane. Airbus nailed it’s death by withdrawing its engineering support.
@@BrownSofaGamer Wrong the tu144 crashed because there was a Mirage trying to get pictures of the tu144 canards and the pilot overreacted when saw the mirage so close to his plane, everything else is just antisoviet propaganda.
My parents were on one of those concords in the 70’s. Their flights were successful at least!
Yeah it’s a shame the Concord had to be retired, because what a beast of a jet it was. Very ahead of its time.
The biggest problem with the Concorde was that it was waaaay before it's time.
An amazing aircraft with an even more amazing cruising speed.
The Tupolev fail had nothing to do with this.
If this jet broke through, modern airlines would have been out of business.
And to think, it was FOD that ultimately killed the Concorde.
It wasnt the accident of a different plane what caused the cancellation. It was the restrictions to supersonic speeds along the most profitable routes.
Iran ordered them, but they didn’t cancel because of the crash; they cancelled because of the revolution. My first type rating was done by an Iranian trainer who fled to Canada, who had the Concorde on his licence.
I gather you were rated?
Can you comment on the Tornado backseater-photo of a Concorde at full throttle? Why is it said that the Tornado was the only thing that could fly fast enough to take that picture? Couldn't any other fighter supercruise then?
@@baylinkdashyt ah sorry- my first rating was on a Dash 8 turboprop. Much more sedate! My instructor was the Concorde rated pilot!
I don’t really know anything about the performance of the Tornado.
@@chrisbrenchley4662 Gotcha.
It was more the performance of the Concorde I was chasing. 🙂
I wonder if the airlines canceled the Concorde because they thought the tu144 was an exact copy.
No, concorde copied the Tu-144. The Tupolev 144 was better designed and was released earlier
No, they cancelled because the 1973 petroleum crisis momentarily made it prohibitively costly to fly them.
@@perkelix I forgot about that. Yeah the video is wrong then
@@ahmedibrahim9082 The concorde was introduced later but made it's first flight earlier. To be fair this crash wasn't relaly the Tu-144's fault. That runway should have been cleaned.
@@ahmedibrahim9082 there were Russian spies that infiltrated the French and English design agency’s for the Concorde. We have caught many, but there are also many we never discovered.
i like the fact that he has part of a fuselage in his background
When I visit them in museums I make a point of jumping in the air. That way I can say I was one of the last people to fly in Concorde.
Woeewweee! You were in low earth orbit and weightless in a Concorde!!!111
The most surprising thing is how small it was, the windows make it look bigger but each window wasn't much bigger than a smartphone screen.
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My grandparents flew on it a number of times. They seemed to enjoy it. I was sad to see it go.
I really wanted to fly in one someday sad to say it will never happen.
If you live in the uk there is a place that does tours for them, I want to say it is called buttons but I'm not sure too sure
Aviation fact is (if you read books written by ex-BA chief pilot as a reliable source): fuel consumption, oil crisis and route restrictions (no sonic boom over land). Even by 1970s standards, the reach of Concorde was not great either, so London-Barbados was the longest direct route availble (with reduced pax/ weight).
The cause of the cancelled orders was the 1973 oil crisis. *Not* the Concordski crash!!
I remember watching the concords taking off and landing at Dulles when I was a kid. Such a cool plane. Always wanted to fly on one.
And Concorde still wipes the floor with any other airliner designed or built...
My grandmother took me to London on the Concorde for a high school graduation gift. Highlight of my life!
Immagine a ryanair concorde 💀
Mach 1 taxi speeds 💀
@@QOTS747-li4on you should see Southwest
Those liverys looked badass
Comparing the Concorde to the TU-144 is like comparing St Paul's Cathedral to a crumbling wooden shithouse.
I had only one op: to fly on the Concorde! What an unforgettable experience! 🇬🇧💕
The waffle house has found it's new host
Im always astonished at how small it is when i see the concord at paris Charles de Gaulle
"had to put down orders" is a rather simple and somewhat overstatement
If not the accident, I bet we would now be seeing private concords
The Tu144 had 4 Mig 21 engines!
The Concorde & the Tupolev both were built by crazy engineers.
Learnt a lot about them at the Sinsheim Museum where both the machines are stationed.
I saw one of the very last flights before Concorde was withdrawn from service, back in 2004 when one came in to land when I lived in Scotland under the flight path into Edinburgh Airport. So distinctive and futuristic looking even thirty-plus years after first being introduced.
It’s nice how you can go in then in museums it was an interesting experience
Some great decal options in there for the kit.
This is sad tbh, I stood on the concord at the Scottish aviation museum, and it's an incredibly beautiful aircraft. It's not fair that it had a horrible demise. It was an inspiration of aviation and well ahead of its time. Served well, in my opinion, and is still a marvel of aviation to this day !
Fun fact: G-BOAD a British Airways Concorde was special, because it was in service with Singapore Airlines (SIA) for 3 years for the SG-Bangkok-London route, the concorde entered back in service with British Airways and had 2 liveries, the SIA livery on the left, and the BA livery on the right!
I grew up in an attic room in London. Used to have these fly over my roof window. Could hear it for ages. Was a bit annoying but shame it’s gone.
My grandpa was in a concorde whilst it was flying and it was his fav plane
This shows the insane potential of the Concorde concept
My grandparents rode in a Concorde on Air France from Mexico to Paris and it took like 5 and a half hours
The Tupolev has little to no connection in the cancellation for the Concorde orders. Back when there were only a few built, the Concorde proved to be very expensive during the oil crisis of that time. And it became unpopular due to the sonic booms that were produced over their flight path. People who live under the flight path of the Concorde would hear sonic booms, and it was strongly protested against, again causing the airliners to cancel the orders only 14 were built and only 2 are left (i think?). The success of Concorde was saved when it was marketed for the upper class, as a quick and luxurious experience.
It’s such a shame concord never really made it because it’s stats on flight times would literally make life so much easier it will make a return one day hopefully
I miss the roar of Concorde from Cirencester. I fell in love with that plane.
The TU144 was designed and built by the Soviet Union. The Concorde was designed and built in the UK and France, it was a joint project initiated by both governments. The American speed restrictions impacted Concorde negatively, as the U.S. carriers hoped it would.
Airlines when they see concorde operational cost: “😨”
Concorde used to fly over where I lived as a kid
Concorde might be the most legendary plane to be ever created. I believe that there will never be a commercial plane like the concord/tu 144 again.
But in the end it was the safest airline plane in history.
After the only concorde crash that ever happened (in service), they were retired from service, but this was actually just an excuse to solve the problem of concordes being way too loud.
I remember the first plane I ever stepped foot on was concord , it was a school trip and we got to go on concord have a look around. It was massive.
Fun fact! For a short period Singapore airlines had 3 Concordes
Still can’t believe in 1968 one could fly from New York to London in 3 1/2 hours and now it takes close to six hours.
Avgeeks shower thoughts be like:
The Tu-144 looks like a dog
WAIT HONESTLY
Aeroflot operated the TU144
And then, the crash that really sealed the fate of the Concorde was Air France flight 4590.
The incompetence of Continental Airlines sealed the fate of the Concorde
i used to hear the concord flying out of jfk at 4pm every day. it was loud!
If i remember correctly All the TU144 were lost in service
in fact only 2 of the 16 were destroyed, this one (paris air show) that occurred by human error, and in 1978, when trying to make a forced landing after a fuel line burst
CONCORDE FLIES IN MY ROOM, TEARS THE HOUSE TO SHREDS
Can we take a moment to appreciate the multiple landings the tu144 made.
Breaking the sound barrier and very high fuel costs were more of an issue. Airlines were not allowed to fly supersonic over land and residential areas which covers most of Europe and asia and mid east.
So great are these shorts, very cool to see Captain Joe's content everyday, very amazing !
20 built, 14 entered service.
My mouth says 6 are unaccounted for....please account for them.
The first 6 were prototypes and didn't enter service.
Imagine wearing a pilot uniform and sitting inside your room. Ahhh, I used to think my life was boring.
yesterday marked the 24th year of concordes crash
The most amazing aircraft. Used to live near the end of runway 03 at Prestwick, and Concorde would come for training every now and then. Thunderous full after-burner touch and gos. Amazing. My dad got me onto the airport to walk around and go onboard - sat in the captain's seat too (not sure that was allowed ;) ).
Absolutely amazing aircraft. Still untouchable performance wise to this day.
The Concorde really did have a snoop droop
I recall at yyz , late 80,s the Concord took off over my shop once a week on one off the north run ways.
No matter how busy I was, I would hear it and run outside and watch it as I heard that wonderful rumble only she could make.
On its retirement tour in toronto I got to stand at the door and look inside. Skinny and a wounder of engineering.
I would have kept doing it. The Concord was a great plane it was fun to fly in.
I used to watch the air trials around Filton. I once stood under it on the road at the end of the runway. Wow noisy, but such a beautiful aeroplane.
the crazy thing, is that my grandma was on a concorde one time
For the Concorde fleet for Air France, one was lost in 2000, and that Concorde lost was Air France 4590
I was in the concorde museum in scotland and i’ve even built the lego concorde in 6 hours!
Singapore Airlines: Am i adopted?
The TU144 was a Soviet lookalike.
They wanted to cancel the order after running the numbers and the Paris crash just gave them the excuse.
IMHO, the Concorde was just way ahead of its time.
I for some reason have very vivid memories of flying on a concord when i was younger, except i was born in 2001 and have never been out of the US
Another airline, Braniff International, leased Concorde in 1979-1980 to fly between Dallas Fort Worth and London or Paris.
Our future of commercial aviation is in the Concorde V2.0. Traveling at subsonic across the world is now ridiculously slow and tiring. We need supersonic passenger and cargo. The new passenger Concorde could be one that matched the interior of leading first class and premium economy configurations, even in double decker, wide body, modern cockpit, modern materials and super efficient engines. Supersonic corridors could be developed for it's travel. I think that would be where we would be today if Concorde was stuck to and where we needed to be. Subsonic is really for distances and areas where supersonic wouldn't match.
One of my grandads friends helped design the concorde.
Captain Joe what was the difference between the Tupolev-144 and the Concord that everyone has seen in your videos?
As others have said, it was the lack of range, fuel consumption, inability to fly supersonic over land and politics rather than the TU-144 crash. However, the biggest death knell was probably the launch of the Boeing 747.
Wow good ✈️ you work
I saw one at the Orlando International and it was beautiful.
Fun fact : British Airways gave 1 Concorde to Singapore Airlines
The reason for the Tupulev breakup was a French fighter yet flying near it unannounced to check-up on the plane. The shock reaction of the Russian pilot upon noticing the jet caused the break-up in midair. No airplane can withstand such a reaction so low above the ground due to the absence of overpressure in the cabin. Any sleek airplane, including the Concorde, would have broken up.
Yeah pretty light on facts there bucko!
Best commercial airliner ever built
The TU-144 had little impact on Concorde sales (more of an impact of TU-144 sales). What hurt Concorde sales was the oil crisis largely. The introduction of widebody aircraft also hurt Concorde sales, as it was more cost effective to fly a lot of people at a fairly quick speed than not very many at supersonic speeds
That qantas one looked dope
Beautiful airliner. What a technological achievement. SuperSonic flight for the public.
The real reason of the low volume of Concorde was the 1973 oil crisis and the limitations of access to airports due to noise regulations
But in fact, the TU144. Had its first flight 4 days before the first flight of the Concord. And the first one was built 2 years before the first Concord was built.
She was beautiful though. I live in Barbados and we used to go to the airport to watch her when she was still flying. One of the BA concordes retired here actually. Lots of people were there to see that last flight come in.
They should bring these back