Does Col. Dugan Know Kreese and Terry Silver?

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  • Опубліковано 11 лип 2021
  • Ken explores whether Col. Dugan, villain of The Next Karate Kid played by Michael Ironside, knows John Kreese and Terry Silver. Many fans have asked if it's possible that these three villains could know each other. If they do, what would it mean for the Cobra Kai series? And could Col. Dugan make a future appearance in the Cobra Kai series with John Kreese and Terry Silver?
    Colonel Dugan is head of security for the school of Julie Pierce, Mr. Miyagi's new student and successor to Daniel LaRusso. Col. Dugan runs a military student group called the Alphas. He threatens to expel Julie Pierce and also threatens Julie's boyfriend Eric. Col. Dugan blows up Eric's car, orders the Alphas to "finish him off," and wants the lead Alpha, Ned, to fight Julie Pierce and "put her away." Col. Dugan also seems to have some similarities to John Kreese, Terry Silver, and the Cobra Kai fighting style.
    Ken explores whether we'll see Colonel Dugan again in Cobra Kai, and also if we may have already seen him.
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  • @joshuaharding7363
    @joshuaharding7363 2 роки тому +46

    I got a feeling Col.Dugen was a good person but was rejected by Keese and Sliver in Cobra Kai or get his butt kicked alot. He takes his failures and frustrations out on his students. The army is all he knew.

  • @rich355
    @rich355 3 роки тому +117

    Colonel Dugan is admittedly not, as interesting compared to John Kreese and Terry Silver, but he does have the contrast factor that does make things fascinating. Notice, how Terry's favorite way of pain and pleasure is psychological damage on his enemies. Terry doesn't have a problem hurting you, but he takes pleasure mainly from hurting you emotionally by turning Daniel aggressive, he breaks his relationship with Miyagi and turns Daniel into what Daniel hates. Colonel Dugan doesn't focus too much on hurting someone mentally with the exception of threats, like you said Dugan focuses on Brute force and Physical Harm. Kreese on the other hand is a mix of the two. He becomes more psychologically damaging around those close to him, like Johnny and doesn't take much of an issue with it, as long as it benefits him and his goals. Around those he views as enemies or outsiders, he enjoys the physical harm, like it's a war. Terry to me represents Psychological harm, Colonel Dugan represents the physical harm and pain, and Kreese is like a interesting hybrid.

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому +19

      Excellent point and a fascinating way to view these characters in relation to each other.

    • @Johnadams20760
      @Johnadams20760 3 роки тому +3

      richard Gonzalez, well played.

    • @afranks8566
      @afranks8566 3 роки тому +10

      Never thought of it that way but that's pretty insightful! Terry likes to psychologically toy with his opponents before moving in, where Dugan likes to skip the foreplay and go right for the jugular. Kreese has shown both sides.

    • @afranks8566
      @afranks8566 3 роки тому +5

      @Mike H right but he has shown moments where he'll just go right for the kill, like Dugan. Like in the parking lot in the 2nd movie against Miyagi. He just went right after Miyagi. In the first movie when Bobby was supposed to face Daniel he just wanted Bobby to take him right out. And in the 3rd movie when he had the chance to double team with Silver against Miyagi, he again just chose to go right after Miyagi himself. Over the years tho, it does seem like he's become more manipulative. Like Silver.

    • @afranks8566
      @afranks8566 3 роки тому

      @Mike H so I agree with the original poster about Kreese being sort of a hybrid of both.

  • @SwabySean1
    @SwabySean1 3 роки тому +28

    One of the major things I notice about Cobra Kai is that nothing is written by accident, everything is on purpose in the Storyline.

  • @danielcastro8216
    @danielcastro8216 3 роки тому +19

    I bet he was one of the POWs held with Kreese and Silver

  • @DecadesApartProductions
    @DecadesApartProductions 3 роки тому +37

    I'm a simple man. I see Ken Cole uploaded a video about Michael Ironside and I click.

  • @Sutho81
    @Sutho81 2 роки тому +36

    All three of them knowing each other is definitely the "entry point" to insert him into the series and also bring in the character Julie. It would not surprise me if it is already in the back of their minds for planning with nothing set in stone yet.

    • @VanishingNomad
      @VanishingNomad 2 роки тому +3

      Easy to bring back Julie. she was Miyagi's long time student. Theres no way Daniel didnt know her well.

  • @M.C.ThomasReviews
    @M.C.ThomasReviews 3 роки тому +74

    To me, Dugan is the only Karate Kid villain that doesn’t have a single redeeming quality. But if he shows up in Cobra Kai, I’m certain the writers of the show will change that.

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому +20

      For sure. The writing for the OG characters has been incredible.

    • @TheJohnnyCotts
      @TheJohnnyCotts 3 роки тому +14

      What is Terry Silver's redeeming quality? All I can think of is he's very loyal to his friend, Kreese.

    • @TheJohnnyCotts
      @TheJohnnyCotts 3 роки тому +5

      @Mike H I see Silver showing just how evil he can be, leading Kreese to finally turn against him.

    • @mightguy3118
      @mightguy3118 2 роки тому

      We don't know much about him so he probably does have redeeming qualities

    • @mightguy3118
      @mightguy3118 2 роки тому

      @Mike H We barely know anything about him 😂

  • @Supremmo
    @Supremmo 3 роки тому +32

    I like that theory. It's possible that after those events and under the guidance of Kreese, Dugan was set on the road to become an Alpha Elite. He may of modeled himself after him and when he rose in the ranks, branched off to start his own unit. He may been a career military man until settling as a security officer in the public schools.
    I think in the current timeline of Cobra Kai it's likely after the dissolution of Alpha Elite he may went into private military contract work echoing the "stories" Kreese was feeding Johnny in Season Two.

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому +4

      That’s interesting! It seems there are a number of narrative threads they can pull.

  • @danielcastro8216
    @danielcastro8216 3 роки тому +37

    I so would love seeing Dugan again on Cobra Kai as well as Julie but I want to see Julie as Tory's anger management therapist plus it's well known and the writers have said Julie and Daniel met at Miyagi's funeral and it's likely Dugan knew Kreese and Silver

    • @irvinalexanderflores
      @irvinalexanderflores 2 роки тому +2

      Would be cool to see her rehabilitate Tory In that way it's in her nature since she rehabilitated Angel the Hawk but now she's be healing people for a living.

  • @firestar4407
    @firestar4407 3 роки тому +51

    Col. Dugan and his students are the most over the top school security guards I've seen. lol

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому +13

      Get to class on time... or else.

    • @Michaelgabriel95
      @Michaelgabriel95 3 роки тому +10

      @@KenCole yeah like you said militarized hall monitors

    • @melissapas8474
      @melissapas8474 3 роки тому +2

      @@KenCole Hey good video. It’s possible that he could know Kreese and Silver. I mean if he does make an appearance he would have to have a small connection to someone in the valley because they just wouldn’t have him show up out of nowhere. Maybe they met through their captain in Vietnam, I mean he is a military man.

    • @melissapas8474
      @melissapas8474 3 роки тому +4

      @@KenCole And you also bring on a good point that we could have already seen colonel Dugan in the flashback and not known it at the time and your right it is a fun thing to speculate and time will tell if that speculation will come true or not

    • @melissapas8474
      @melissapas8474 3 роки тому +2

      @Mike H Anything is possible

  • @davidmorrissey5075
    @davidmorrissey5075 2 роки тому +12

    Michael ironside, the actor who played Dugan, is currently in an Irish/Belgian co-production, "Hidden Assets". He's aged considerably and has put on quite a bit of weight. I couldn't see him making a comeback to Cobra Kai, but it's good he's still active

    • @FreddyKurganNimmo
      @FreddyKurganNimmo Рік тому +1

      He could come back just as a single episode appearance to help Kreese after his prison escape. No martial arts needed.

  • @jorjaismacias4200
    @jorjaismacias4200 3 роки тому +18

    is exactly what I was thinking and you are literally one of the few who have touched the issue of whether Terry Silver and John kreese knows Paul dougan

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому

      Thanks and I’m glad I’m not the only one!

  • @epcotman32
    @epcotman32 2 роки тому +58

    I am assuming they will start introducing characters from TNKK in future seasons, because I believe Kreese, Silver and Dugan met sometime in Vietnam, whether he was a member of their unit or was a commanding officer.
    As for Julie, it would be nice if she and Daniel met so they can make Miyagi do more better.

  • @jonathanperess6408
    @jonathanperess6408 2 роки тому +19

    The character in Cobra Kai season three there was the guy in the POW camp in Vietnam who fought someone over the snake pit and beat him although there was no name to that character. That character might be considered Dugan. The Next Karate Kid was terrible. However, putting the character Dugan, Kreese, and Terry together in Cobra Kai would be awesome!

    • @SlashinatorZ
      @SlashinatorZ 2 роки тому +4

      If only silver hadn't betrayed his friend & if Kreese had treated him as an equal

    • @irvinalexanderflores
      @irvinalexanderflores 2 роки тому +2

      Honestly I thought the next Karate Kid was kinda fine it's weird not having Daniel or knowing where he is they'd have you assume he abandoned Miyagi but thanks to Cobra Kai that obviously isn't the case so the thing about TNKK is it doesn't ruin anyone as a character Mr. Miyagi is still Mr. Miyagi all the new characters like Dugan and Julie can't be ruined since they're brand new, compared to following Daniel for 3 films learning Karate, and he still gets bullied all the time.. I honestly disliked KK3 more even though I love Terry Silver as a character.

    • @funboy4809
      @funboy4809 2 роки тому +4

      The Next Karate Kid was awesome I mean Mister Miyagi was in it, and I love Julie Pierce, that movie was magical... 😈

  • @chillguydave925
    @chillguydave925 3 роки тому +21

    I hope they put him in the show
    It’d make sense for the school to

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому +3

      Oooo, great point...

  • @stephendexheimer7914
    @stephendexheimer7914 2 роки тому +7

    The writers have done a terrific job exploring the dimensions of Kreese, Silver, and with Mike Barnes so clearly coming back, Dugan deserves a comeback. If you can make Silver and Kreese crazier than they were in the original movies, you could do the same with Dugan, I can imagine Dugan bringing back the Alpha Elites and then wondering what Cobra Kai is so he meets Silver and they get along so well he decides to work with Silver to make Alpha Elites even tougher

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  2 роки тому +5

      It would be so amazing to see Dugan come back. My dream scene would be Michael Ironside, Martin Kove and Thomas Ian Griffith in the same scene.

  • @ninjapirate123
    @ninjapirate123 2 роки тому +7

    I want to see Col Dugan bring his whole gang here in season 5 of Cobra Kai

    • @dakentaijutsu2010
      @dakentaijutsu2010 2 роки тому

      What gang? All his students ditched him after knowing about his true colors, and what part would Dugan have played in Cobra kai anyway?

  • @nahuellombardia6031
    @nahuellombardia6031 3 роки тому +14

    6:41 OMG i havent notice any of that! you are a genius, now i do think that is a younger dugan. TB3 put a lot of atention to detail. this is great!

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому +4

      😆 Thanks, yeah I think there are some... interesting similarities there!

  • @bobx6565
    @bobx6565 Рік тому +2

    Dugan has an impressive military career. He taught Maverick to fly and he killed bugs in the Battle of Klendathu. He could not survive Miagi’s bad breath. HONK!

  • @ChrisRoth1972
    @ChrisRoth1972 3 роки тому +20

    The evil thing that Dugan does,he mostly orders,however he could be serving Prison and he has PTSD,it appears that way.

    • @MrRatchaphruek
      @MrRatchaphruek 3 роки тому +2

      No he wouldn't be serving prison. It was during Vietnam war and rules of engagement were different (No body cams)

  • @YodaMiyagi
    @YodaMiyagi Рік тому +3

    Col Dugan to help form the new Alpha Elite aka Cobra Kai Elite
    Dugan teams up with Kreese & Kim
    They destroy Silver and then shift towards Miyagi Fang and then Julie Pierce teams up with Daniel , Johnny , Chozen , and Barnes

  • @TonySkittleAlive184
    @TonySkittleAlive184 2 роки тому +2

    Ken Cole is looking cool with the Alpha's t-shirt 😎

  • @SkylerDouglas
    @SkylerDouglas 2 роки тому +9

    They could definitely use that for the future if they do want to bring him back or maybe you found their Easter egg.

  • @michaelvaladez3012
    @michaelvaladez3012 Рік тому +3

    If they bring Dugan back they should bring in Julie,Eric McGowan,and Ned too.

  • @travelingdude1621
    @travelingdude1621 2 роки тому +4

    The two old friends Silver might dig up for season 5 might just be Barnes and Dugan. 👌🏻

  • @rodneylight3602
    @rodneylight3602 2 роки тому +4

    He's a hell of a bad guy actor. I would definitely welcome him.

  • @davidjames468
    @davidjames468 3 роки тому +14

    This was a much needed video, and I really liked how you showed how we may have already seen him in the flashback. That causes me to think we most likely have and this can get even better as the series moves along.

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому

      Thanks David! This was definitely a fun topic to think about.

  • @arcticwolf9332
    @arcticwolf9332 2 роки тому +2

    As far as I'm concerned, that soldier in the flashbacks is dugan. Brilliant analysis.

  • @chillguydave925
    @chillguydave925 3 роки тому +9

    Coming back to this
    I think you are correct
    They seem to be bringing in every old character from the karate kid show
    They even showed Johnny’s old biker gang /best friends
    After this it’s possible they do the final series during college and that’s where Dugan will be . Plus that’s a pretty good actor that I would love to see again on the screen

  • @nahuellombardia6031
    @nahuellombardia6031 3 роки тому +22

    First! yesss i wanted a video like this ! the next karate kid doesnt get many atention, because it kinda doesnt deserve it as a movie, but the amount of interesting lore of karate kid that this movie brings up has always fascinated me,a lot of ideas with potential to do a great movie with a good screenwriter as rmk or a good director, even when the movie itslef its pretty mediocre. so im glad that you are talking about that element of the movie specially the character of coronel dugan.

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому +5

      I think you're exactly right - no matter what you thought of the movie, there's some interesting lore there that could be expanded upon.

    • @BenjaminGessel
      @BenjaminGessel 3 роки тому

      Colonel Dugan

  • @lizzkaayako2270
    @lizzkaayako2270 3 роки тому +11

    Another great video, Mr. Cole! I'd been wondering what your next video would be about. It's very much possible Dugan and Kreese/Silver *have* crossed paths. Seeing Young Kreese vs. Young Dugan in a 1970-1972 Army Karate Championships flashback would be another cool way to bring Dugan into Cobra Kai, even if just as an Easter Egg.

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому +1

      That's a fun idea!

  • @ArizonaRed
    @ArizonaRed 2 роки тому +2

    Come back Micheal Ironside 😍

  • @Pancake3225
    @Pancake3225 3 роки тому +2

    If you think about it, the young POW soldier in Vietnam does kinda resemble what a young Dugan would look like.

  • @kiggi__
    @kiggi__ 3 роки тому +15

    Very interesting stuff there Ken, I actually haven't seen the karate kid film he is in but i have to say i am a massive fan of Michael Ironside and if this is a possible way to bring him into the Cobra Kai universe it would not be a mistake to bring him in. He does for sure have the right style on screen for a bad guy and what you mentioned about the flash backs could well be him.

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому +7

      Honestly I'd love to see a scene with Martin Kove, Thomas Ian Griffith, and Michael Ironside. I think people's screens might explode.

  • @christopherwang4392
    @christopherwang4392 3 роки тому +8

    I always thought that Kreese and Dugan were rivals who served in different units and hated each other.

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому +2

      Now I’d like to see that play out!

    • @castortroy7704
      @castortroy7704 2 роки тому

      Kreese would mop the floor with Dugan without breaking a sweat.

    • @LoganDX1990
      @LoganDX1990 Рік тому

      If they did a kreese prequel that would be really cool

  • @emubilly999
    @emubilly999 3 роки тому +2

    Excellent video!

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you very much!

  • @johnnymarrco770
    @johnnymarrco770 2 роки тому +7

    Dugan wasn't really fleshed out in " The Next Karate Kid" he was very one dimensional in the movie. Unlike Kreese, we got to see many sides of him in the First , Second and Third Karate Kid movies and we got to see how methodical Terry Silver was. We really don't know that much about Dugan.

  • @glenross9467
    @glenross9467 3 роки тому +6

    I don’t think he’s connected. They just couldn’t use finish him as that was used by Kreese in karate kid. They just changed the words about a bit lol

  • @simplequestioncanuanswer2457
    @simplequestioncanuanswer2457 3 роки тому +3

    Dang Ken , I'm at 5 minutes in and wondering to myself if those POWs could have been Duggan. Then you brought it up. Way to be on point with all the angles. Great video perspective.

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому

      Thanks, glad you were thinking that too! The possibilities are interesting for sure.

  • @dj198228
    @dj198228 3 роки тому +17

    I could definitely see Dugan appearing in season 5 to keep things fresh. I don't think we need him in season 4 as we have Silver to mix things up and I'd like to see Mike Barnes before Dugan (which we probably will)

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому +2

      Yeah, I would agree.

    • @robanah
      @robanah 3 роки тому +5

      Can’t go bigger than Terry Silver though 😂

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому +4

      @@robanah indeed!

    • @robanah
      @robanah 3 роки тому +4

      @Mike H Nah... these writers are smart, they'd know that bringing in Mike Barnes in the same season as both Terry Silver and Kreese would be too much. So they will most likely leave Barnes for S5 or a very brief cameo in S4. Plus, like Terry's return and every other OG return, it would have to be organic, not like another show(Supernatural) where they just toss them in with little to no explanation or story. Once again, they are smart writers, so Barnes would have to fit into the story in some way, which probably won't work for S4 since the focus will mostly be on Terry Silver coming back.

  • @fsociety9369
    @fsociety9369 3 роки тому +3

    You by far have the best Cobra Kai/Karate Kid videos on the net. Great explanations of the characters and lore, and all possible theories are logical and based on facts. And catch the smallest things that no one else does ❤️

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому +2

      Wow, thank you! I'm speechless. I'm just glad other people enjoy talking about this stuff too 😄

    • @dhirshg
      @dhirshg 2 роки тому

      @@KenCole Absolutely brilliant videos and theories. FYI: Sean Kanan is my all-time favorite actor - mostly due to his Deacon Sharpe days though lol.

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  2 роки тому

      @@dhirshg Thank you! And Sean Kanan is definitely a great actor.

  • @carminesandiego4303
    @carminesandiego4303 Рік тому

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the strike.

  • @DAsrada
    @DAsrada 2 роки тому +2

    One thing I think it's good to notice is that Dugan's focus seems to be less on individual martial artist skill - and focus more upon societal control and applying brute strength to answer any dissent. The Alpha Elites wield an absolutely enormous and bizarre level of influence, control, and Dugan himself was able to weigh in on expulsion and multiple school functions. Whereas Kreese and Silver focus on martial arts themselves, Dugan is more of a controller of social circumstances and power in structures.
    I think it might be realistic to expect the Alphas to be akin to "you invite them in to keep your school safe, but slowly they usurp more and more control and authority". Which considering the repeated bullying and karate incidents at the school in Cobra Kai, we might see the school end up inviting the Alpha Elite in to "keep the students safe" via forming a Chapter there, not knowing what they're inviting into their midst.

  • @ryanbadgerheart
    @ryanbadgerheart Рік тому +3

    After watching season 5 and re watching the next KK , I think this may well be the case, in one of he first scenes when he is training in the school yard, he grabs the throat of one of his students very similar move that chozen does to Daniel when he tells him about master Kim and Tang Soo Do. Could this mean that Dugan studied under master Kim during the Vietnam war?

  • @charlesstevensiii7762
    @charlesstevensiii7762 2 роки тому

    I was wondering about this for a while

  • @MrJamesakeller
    @MrJamesakeller 2 роки тому +6

    I always saw Dugan's fighting style as simplified military hand-to-hand combat. Like U.S. Marine Corps L.I.N.E. was in the 90's. Not martial arts.

    • @castortroy7704
      @castortroy7704 2 роки тому +2

      It was army combatitive training.

    • @VanishingNomad
      @VanishingNomad 2 роки тому

      LINE came from the Shanghai police training. Its essentially Kung Fu, without the forms, mixed with judo. So it totally is martial arts.

    • @MrJamesakeller
      @MrJamesakeller 2 роки тому

      @@VanishingNomad That's funny, LINE always struck me as a simplified, brutal, and lethal derivative of akido.

  • @josephgana5746
    @josephgana5746 3 роки тому +2

    THE DUDE WAS ALREADY IN COBRAI KAI IN THE FLASHBACKS!!!!!!!

  • @danielwalshe3354
    @danielwalshe3354 3 роки тому +14

    All I want is a prequel series to Cobra Kai where it focuses on Kreese after the flashbacks in series 3. Imagine, Kreese and Silver making the foundation of CK, learning more Tang Soo Do and competing in the Army Karate Champs. Who does Kreese face in the Tournament I hear you ask? Col. Dougan of course

  • @harmlesspantysniffer1005
    @harmlesspantysniffer1005 2 роки тому

    EXCELLENT observation and YES I say he makes an appearance in this OUTSTANDING series which I'm sure they wanna keep going as long as possible 😊❤️👍

  • @wherenomadhasgoneb4618
    @wherenomadhasgoneb4618 2 роки тому

    I like yur concept and the guy in flashback does look like young Duggan

  • @brettmajors69karaoke
    @brettmajors69karaoke 3 роки тому +2

    All three were part of shadow company.

  • @jakeytedesco3003
    @jakeytedesco3003 Рік тому +1

    Ironside (Dugan) and Kove (Kreese) were in a movie together in 2001.. it is called Extreme Honour

  • @juanma250297
    @juanma250297 2 роки тому +3

    I would love for Dougan to return in Season 5 or 6. The producers confirmed that they are planning at least 8 seasons of Cobra Kai. I would love to see Col Dougan return and be the soldier in the cage with Kreese and Silver. I could imagine that Silver brings him back to help him train his students in season 6. Silver will need all the help he can get because now Daniel, Johnny and Chozen will be working together, heck maybe Julie returns and joins them in training the Miyagi Do and Eagle Fang students. with that quarted working together Silver will be in deep troubles, he’ll need Mike Barnes and Dougan to come and help him train his students

  • @QuixoteX
    @QuixoteX 2 роки тому +3

    If it means getting Michael Ironside chewing the scenery. YES! It would be interesting though if he actually turned out to be the most stable of them all, after 30 years of treatment. I thought Terry Silver was gonna turn out to be the voice of reason that would bring Kreese back to his senses, but I guess I was wrong on that.

    • @thelegendofthem6120
      @thelegendofthem6120 Рік тому

      Silver was always a psychotic . No way he was going to he the voice of reason. This show is great, but it's also very Riverdale. Everyone flip flopping to different sides constantly. It's great so bringing in Duggan and Julie Pierce and even Ned and Eric would be interesting.

  • @js3599
    @js3599 2 роки тому +4

    I always thought it was funny how Dugan promised Eric that he could get get him into the Air Force Academy, but no mention that a letter of recommendation from Miyagi, a winner of the Medal of Honor, could quite possibly, and very likely get Eric into the Academy as well. I find it unlikely, albeit not impossible, that Dugan has such an accolade.
    The reason I doubt it is because Dugan mentions his Army experience, but never mentions his awards... Not likely for someone like Dugan to not mention something like that. Many veterans don't like to speak about his/her war experiences, but Dugan, to me at least, just does not seem to fit that mold. Anyway, as Miyagi himself told Daniel, the medal only proved he was lucky, not brave.
    As for Dugan knowing Kreese and Silver? Possible, maybe even plausible. Being in the same unit in a war does not mean they all go home together to the same city and meet every Friday night for beer and billiards. Most go home to wherever their family/friends are, or wherever they can get a job and make a living, but some do stick together, and/or keep in contact in their post military lives..
    I could certainly envision Dugan conditioning and sparring with the Cobra Kai students as Kreese and Silver look on in preparation of the tournament. He could certainly be the guy in the flashback. Maybe he will be in season 4... and/or/maybe future seasons. It would absolutely take a serious character overhaul to make Dugan fit to stand with Kreese and Silver as a formidable and believable villain, and not look like just a lackey. If they want that kind of character in the show, let them bring back Sting Ray...

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  2 роки тому +2

      Great points! You're right, I think Eric would be much better off with Miyagi's recommendation. And you talking about Dugan got me thinking, it's probably very likely he knew ABOUT John Kreese. After all, Kreese was US Army karate champion for three years. That's a rare honor I'm sure, and Dugan may have admired Kreese even if he didn't compete against him or know him personally.

  • @thomasbrown5081
    @thomasbrown5081 3 роки тому +1

    Hi ken nice to see you back i say yes they no him would be a great one if all three in cobra kia stay safe my friend 🙌

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks Thomas! Can't wait to see what happens.

  • @youngloux
    @youngloux 2 роки тому +2

    I actually never thought that soldier in the NAM flashback could be col Dugan now that I look at them he has a general young look to Dugan like the kreese and silver actors in the flashbacks I actually think that could be the only way he and Julie can be introduced in cobra Kai because the writers said they want to involve all the characters that includes the Next karate kid characters he could be in s5 as one of the ‘old friends to help out with cobra Kai’ like Mike Barns because silver wants to open many dojo’s he needs a lot of sensei’s to teach at them

  • @vvilches1312
    @vvilches1312 Рік тому

    Everything matches! Too much coincidences. It's very clear, for me at least. Greetings and great job again!

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  Рік тому +1

      Thank you very much!

    • @vvilches1312
      @vvilches1312 Рік тому

      @@KenCole Thanks to you, dear Ken. Very good and serious job. Congrats!

  • @ollye4513
    @ollye4513 2 роки тому

    I say ye it make sense. Love ur theorys keep up good work 👍👍👍

  • @fistoflegend1564
    @fistoflegend1564 2 роки тому +1

    I like your work Ken. You really dig into these characters. I'm not a subscriber yet, but you almost got me, LOL!

  • @aprilripka5341
    @aprilripka5341 3 роки тому +4

    I think dugon will appear in cobra Kai season 4 with kreese and silver war buddies

  • @michaelzoran
    @michaelzoran Місяць тому +1

    Dugan definitely could have known Kreese and Silver. All of them were in the military. This factor easily could have made it so they knew each other.

  • @joshsherman2318
    @joshsherman2318 2 роки тому +1

    Michael Ironside played his part well and I like him as an actor. This is a great potential write-in for him

  • @johnwilkins4125
    @johnwilkins4125 3 роки тому +5

    I think that's very possible Has that would also allow Julie from the next karate kid into the cobra kai serie & help tie everything together nicely

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому +3

      It would definitely be fascinating to see these characters in Cobra Kai.

  • @douglasgreen1607
    @douglasgreen1607 4 місяці тому +1

    I wouldn't be surprised if kreese makes a side trip to boston to pay an old friend a visit and finds ducan working as a security officer guard

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  4 місяці тому +1

      Would love to see this!

  • @Grodd70
    @Grodd70 2 роки тому

    That would be a great way to bring him on to the show. The flashback looks like a young Dugan.

  • @InvisibleObserver13
    @InvisibleObserver13 Рік тому

    Love this video. Now, I want to write something based on this theory.

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  Рік тому +1

      Woo hoo! Thank you🙏

  • @michaeladderley5180
    @michaeladderley5180 2 роки тому

    If they bring back a remix of American Ninja....I'm headed for the hills...

  • @Hello_Ladies
    @Hello_Ladies Рік тому +1

    No way... Dugan was in the Navy, call sign "Jester" in the Top Gun academy. He was also a smoker with no cardio. He was lying to his students to appear tougher.

  • @wulftheghost
    @wulftheghost 3 роки тому +2

    Ken you remind me of my grandfather that's passed on, you have such a calm disposition and voice and you also manage to offer new ideas and talking points without being irritating. Thank you!
    That is one of the most interesting theories you've ever put across. If that was Dugen who killed the first soldier, that would explain why he is the way he is.

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you, that is a great compliment. Yeah, we’ll see, but it could be Dugan!

  • @antoniomatosjadraque2006
    @antoniomatosjadraque2006 2 роки тому

    In Cobra Kai just before Armand went to the Cobra's Gym, there was a scene where Kreese was seeing a photograph from Vietnam days. There were 3 guys on the picture: Silver, Kreese and probably Dugan.

  • @baccusx13
    @baccusx13 2 роки тому +2

    If they have not met up in the Cobra Kai series flashback scene (interesting and plausible theory btw), it is fair to assume that Dugan knows Kreese by reputation for the 3 years Karate championship in the U.S. Army. Heck, maybe the reputation of Kreese could have influenced Dugan's career path after the army.

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  2 роки тому

      This is an excellent point. It’s highly likely Dugan knows exactly who Kreese is and as you say, Dugan may have looked up to and been influenced by Kreese.

  • @alicezamora2796
    @alicezamora2796 3 роки тому

    When I 1st saw this post on Facebook, I was thinking this is a joke🤣. Now your video made me rethink that 1st thought. Even if they did know him, I don't think he was a part of their crew. I really don't want to see him in season 4. Great video as always

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому

      Hahah, thank you!

  • @samuelstephen8147
    @samuelstephen8147 3 роки тому +2

    They may have just known each other, but that is about it. They probably were not friends.

  • @tnazealot2143
    @tnazealot2143 3 роки тому +6

    When Julie Pierce comes back hell ya I want to see Col. Dugan again. He has revenge on his mind still if they decide to keep him as a instructor who has a east coast dojo coming in to the All Valley or some veteran bum on the street that finds out where she is.

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому +1

      He definitely seems like the kind to hold grudges 😉

  • @YodaMiyagi
    @YodaMiyagi 2 роки тому +2

    This would be an interesting to solidify the entire karate kid and Kobra Kai series

  • @stephendexheimer7914
    @stephendexheimer7914 Рік тому +1

    I tweeted Hayden Schlossberg if Dugan was coming back and he said that Dugan has come up quite a lot in the writers room but want to find a way to bring him back that’ll make sense, we gotta tweet him this video because this theory does make a lot of sense

    • @nealsmall9316
      @nealsmall9316 Рік тому

      Dude you should've tweeted him if Chozen will fight Kreese in season 6!

  • @EmmettLBrown2015
    @EmmettLBrown2015 2 роки тому +1

    He's a total badass!

  • @FreddyKurganNimmo
    @FreddyKurganNimmo 2 місяці тому

    Here's to seeing Dugan return to help his fellow former POW Kreese in season 6 of Cobra Kai👍💪👊

  • @YodaMiyagi
    @YodaMiyagi Рік тому +1

    Love to see Col Dugan team up with Kreese and Barnes and form the new Alpha Elite and get revenge on Silver

  • @jcueto75
    @jcueto75 Рік тому

    I didn’t notice it when I watched season 3, but that’s where they set up the introduction of Colonel Dugan and the Alpha Elite. Not only with the POW camp but also with the parent school board meeting in episode 1. My theory for season 6 is that the Alpha Elite will be brought into West Valley. After reconnecting with Kim Da-Eun, Kreese who is on the run will connect with Colonel Dugan and that will lead to an alliance between the Alpha Elite and Kim Da-Eun’s way of the fist students. And that will lead to Julie Pierce coming in

  • @patrickwagner98
    @patrickwagner98 3 роки тому +4

    I hope there's no relation. Soem fan theories with relationships sound neat, but it's just too coinsidential that all the people across the country and around the world are tied to some little karate tournament.

  • @CursedBarneyy
    @CursedBarneyy Рік тому +1

    I remember macchio saying anyone who interacted or knew mr. Miyagi in the karate kid universe they will or may be in cobra Kai.

  • @stevehungarter8601
    @stevehungarter8601 7 днів тому

    Kreese was a two-time Karate champion in the Army. It is likely they could have met at one of those tournaments as well.

  • @SlashManEXE
    @SlashManEXE 2 роки тому

    That flashback was pretty convincing. Wouldn’t be a stretch to include him in a later season. It would have to take some good writing to not feel contrived, though

  • @MaxiRyu99
    @MaxiRyu99 2 роки тому

    Well, he could be the next secret character reveal of Cobra Kai Season 5ive.....

  • @CplDwayneHicks11
    @CplDwayneHicks11 14 днів тому

    May not be in Barcelona but maybe his watching the Livestreaming...

  • @shawns9813
    @shawns9813 3 роки тому +6

    Thanks for this man. Amazing possibilities. Imagine if Col Dugan comes back and it turns out he is Dmitri's uncle or something.
    Season 4 will be epic.
    You think Mike Barnes is returning?

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому

      Interesting! I’m confident Mike Barnes will return at some point. Not sure about Season 4 though, maybe 50/50, it could be Season 5.

    • @shawns9813
      @shawns9813 3 роки тому

      @@KenCole The actor Sean Kanan has given subtle hints that he is indeed returning. I think Mike Barnes' character will be a hybrid of Chozen. He will still be against Larusso, but also a rival of Silver. I feel these writers are creative to the point they won't give Barnes a redemption arc like Chozen. We shall see.

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому +1

      @@shawns9813 check out my interview with Sean if you haven’t seen it! ua-cam.com/video/DIvY-RpoexI/v-deo.html

    • @shawns9813
      @shawns9813 3 роки тому

      @@KenCole awesome will do!

    • @jonathanperess6408
      @jonathanperess6408 3 роки тому

      Mike Barnes I bet will appear in season five. Perhaps a surprising cliffhanger on the last episode of season four which is where Barnes shows up all of a sudden!

  • @darth_vedant669
    @darth_vedant669 Рік тому

    Ngl that slap and choke thing looked alot like what chosen did to show tang so do

  • @ianround7628
    @ianround7628 Рік тому +1

    Yes yes yes I help you spring him in the series

  • @frederickckrueger3367
    @frederickckrueger3367 3 роки тому +1

    hey Ken, Martyn from Newcastle England, what a hell of a video my friend. I think you could be on to something, those 3 in that moment would be the perfect way to tie them together. I didn't even notice that other guy. but imagine duggan does come back and they would make one hell of a triple threat and just say mike barnes comes in and makes it an awesome foursome, then that could lead the way for chozen to come and join daniel and johnny to kind of make it fair, and then that could leave either julie pierce or even ned to come back and really make it a four on four confrontation, as the writers have said, no character from the films will ever be ignored, so anything can happen. but thanks for wonderful video, u keep up the good work. take care of yourself my friend.

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому

      Thanks so much! It'd be incredible for the series to get to the point where all of these characters are in the mix. This thing is already getting epic.

  • @SwabySean1
    @SwabySean1 3 роки тому +1

    I've been thinking about Colonel Dugan having something to do with Kreese and Silver in Vietnam for the past couple seasons.

  • @user-lj2cb2pj8j
    @user-lj2cb2pj8j 2 роки тому

    Well, atleast his military flashback won't have a ponytail lol

  • @Damnationization
    @Damnationization 2 роки тому

    Dugan should come in with a two by four and call himself Hacksaw Jim Dugan. 🤣

  • @stormcloud-9369
    @stormcloud-9369 2 місяці тому

    He got his redemption in Starship Troopers. “Everyone fights. Nobody quits. If you dont do your job, I’ll shoot you.” Oorahh

  • @cobrakaiworld23
    @cobrakaiworld23 3 роки тому

    Can you do a video about Silver training Robby and Tory

    • @KenCole
      @KenCole  3 роки тому +3

      Hmmm, interesting. I'd have to think about how to do that without stepping too much onto the future CK S4 story.

  • @richysticks
    @richysticks 2 роки тому

    I loved one Idea I saw in the comments and would like to add to the idea. If they show kreese vs Dugan in a flashback to the old army karate tournament and this is the moment when Dugan became obsessed with the idea of not holding back after his loss to kreese in the tournament.

  • @jakeytedesco3003
    @jakeytedesco3003 Рік тому

    Neds actor Michael Cavalieri just completed a Passion Film called Ritornato

  • @cokebenni
    @cokebenni Рік тому

    Col. Dugan looks like Red foreman from that 70s show

  • @ahsenkhan5386
    @ahsenkhan5386 2 роки тому

    when Terry said he has a friend to raise Cobra Kai
    I think Terry was referring him as well as Mark Barnes and others