Nah, I feel like holding out on the Emperor’s actual force powers until he starts electrocuting Luke was the right move. The audience gets to wonder why even Vader fears the Emperor.
@@froloffanton Ya know, that's actually a solid point. Although, seeing the Emperor's ruthlessness and sheer power by putting Vader in a position of vulnerability would have been neat to see.
I know it’s not related to Jedi, but to me, I’ve always put Temple of Doom up with Raiders in my mind. Sure it may be dark but it has just as much action and the ending is incredible. I also like Willie more than Marion, you can see her get braver throughout the movie especially when she kicks that Thugee off the minecart.
When Return of the Jedi came out back then, I was around 10 at the time and my brother was a few years older than me. We used to walk around our house singing the Ewoks Jub Jub song. My mother would just shake her head and ask what the heck we were singing. What great memories from these films.
Another great video and not just because of your shout-out... which, thank you for. I always learn something new and my admiration for Lucas has been deepened, despite his recent statements (if that really was him) in favor of Bob Iger. Keep up the good work.
I believe Lucas' wife who is 25 years his junior and a sitting member on one of the banks invested in Disney is the reason he sided with Iger on the proxy. At least that's my belief.
@@RepresentThis Yeah, it's possible that he's so checked out that he doesn't even know that his name was used or that fans are mad at him, again. I don't blame him, really. At his age, why would he want to enter into that fight?
Nice, I miss Nashville a lot and the Star Wars community there. My brother still lives there so I get there every few months. Great Escape and the Toys R Us used to be my homes in that area as well.
Personally, I've always said that Lucas may have CREATED Star Wars, but I don't think he ever truly understood the RESULT of it. He always saw Star Wars as a kid's movie, and as someone who first saw the original in the theatres when I was 10 or 11, I'd agree. It has all the tropes the tropes of kid's shows like Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon, mixed with daredevil fighter plane combat from the popular war movies like The Battle of Britain, mixed with Ancient Greek Tragedies that are timeless, mixed with Kurasawa Samurai movies and swash-buckling Douglas Fairbanks and Errol Flynn movies. It's an amalgam of all these popular tropes, made in space. It all sounds a bit silly, and it is! But John Williams' scores elevated it way beyond that and gave it a sense of grandeur that had been missing in 1977. Empire Strikes Back changed it all, the kids had grown up somewhat and wanted more adult content and they got it. The scenes with Yoda on Dagobah elevated the concepts to a deep dive into good vs evil, giving it an almost religious context. Unfortunately, Lucas still thought of it as kid's movies, and a way to sell merchandise, with the rescue of Han and the Ewoks as a way to sell toys. But us fans continued to grow up and as we did, we wanted more adult content. Lucas instead went back to the silly droids and Gungans in Episode 1. The Prequel trilogy had a great story, but it was executed poorly in my opinion.
As a young twenty-something my ego might have put my nose in the air on the release of Jedi. Later events proved my nose was firmly shoved up somewhere else and I'm now as fascinated as the next fan in your in-depth videos about Star Wars. Massively entertaining as ever so thank you Sir.
He was facing the same thing back then, everyone was just about politics, and pandering. The art form , the CONCENTRATION, was preserved because of Lucas, a true artist: who in his fight against the money and control, ended up with all the power.
So legit nothing changed. There's also that whole thing of SW fans having a weird thing with shitting on Lucas then wanting him back and the cycle repeating itself
that's what people who complain about Disney today don't know, or have forgotten. they think things have gone "woke" and it was all good back in the day. Nope! Lucas had issues FROM DAY ONE! questions questions from the studio: "Why isn't the Wookiee wearing any pants" "Our survey says that films with War in the title don't succeed." Blah blah... :-0
When u look at it, Return was really good movie. Opening scene good, Luke and Joda great, Endor and Ewoks bad, space battle was great, Luke, Vader and Emperor was phenomenal and ending was great.
LOL the parking police lady and the scooter chase. 23:50 To be fair Harrison Ford is just amazing. What direction can you give him? Carrie Fisher didn't have a very extensive career. I miss Lucas Art Games. Disney closing them down and just licensing out the IP to EA was a sign of things to come.
One of my favourite games, which no one else seems to like is Star Wars: Rebellion. If you don't know it, it's an RTS game with also some space battles. It's a really good game and it's crying out for a remake with modern graphics for the battles and maybe some changes to the AI to make it a bit harder. It's one of those games where you can play for 12 hours straight and get lost in the missions. I love it.
I collect memorabilia from these films I love, and have items signed by Nilo, Robert, Ian, Anthony but I never got anything from David and what makes me sad now is how I literally used to drive past his house on the way to work everyday before he passed.
Rewatched the original theatrical last night, before your video appeared via the YT algorithm. As usual while watching, the Ewwww...oks appear out of nowhere, the film falls apart (for me) and I zone and groan out. The choices that finish the trilogy in this (what appears to be 'let's get this over with everyone') trite fashion baffle; whether it's a movie for 12 year olds or not! I suppose, the mild consolation is, it doesn't look like the prequels... but still, it's a shame the saga wasn't capped off with the hoped for, satisfying glory
I always say I don't like RotJ because of Endor. Then I am reminded that Jabba and his palace was in the beginning. Always felt like they ended Empire before starting Jedi proper.
No disrespect but David Lynch wasn't being honest when he said he didn't want to direct because of Lucas and the Ewoks giving him a headache. According to Haward Kazanjian's book, he actually accepted the job but then quickly turned it down because he didn't want to work with John Williams and Ben Bert. In other words, he wanted 100% control of the film's sound.
I took no side as I just stated the different views so there is no possibility for disrespect. There are more views other than just Kazanjian's and one was that Lynch was using the Jedi offer as a bargaining chip for more money and control for Dune. People can explore that stuff if they want to look deeper into the issue. Everyone must decide for themselves what to believe and if you subscribe to your point who am I to dissuade you as I'm not going to pick a side on this. I was not there and don't know who is factual and who is not. Someone is not being honest and I'm not that judge.
@@RepresentThis Ok, I wasn't being confrontational either. I am very aware that the original trilogy era Star Wars films are notorious for having behind the scenes drama with conflicting information due to people constantly saying, "He Said", "She Said", and so on. It's one of those, the more you learn the less you know kind of scenarios. due to how unusually ambitious these films were and how both wildly and un-expectedly popular they became. As for me I trust Kazanjian given he tends to be the man in the middle that gets ignored a lot. Plus he has a way better track record for honesty then both George Lucas and (especially) Gary Kurtz combined. That's why I tend to side with him and James Marquand a lot more when it comes to the subject of Episodes 5 and 6.
As amazing this video is, it makes me kind of sad. You start to grow more cynical if you get aware of all the friction, frustration and drama behind the scenes. It's incredibly interesting but it also adds a bitter taste to the enjoyment I had with these movies.
I think in many instances it makes me love them more because one can appreciate what the actors or makers put into it. I will say I was sad to find out that Lucas constantly changed his narratives in my studies and that Prowse died without resolution, but the honor to Prowse is to appreciate him as Vader in the end in my eyes. I guess I turn the negative into a positive in my mind. I also will say looking at this stuff and the drama is miniscule compared to modern day films which are full of divisiveness in the media on both sides. Thanks for your insights.
@@RepresentThis I admire your position. Working in the entertainment industry I experience the dissonance between production, direction and actors on a daily basis and it leaves me baffled, how much loss there is in terms of energy, motivation, vision and money. It always leaves me with two questions: is it really necessary? Meaning is it human nature, and systemic, or a result of ego and bad management? And, how much better could the final product be, if everyone would be pulling on the same string? I know some tension can be fruitful, and there are productions where too much freedom leads to a huge time sink for details, but maybe I just see too much of my own conflicts reflected in your documentary :D
@@MicMirageMusic Your position is admired as well as you are wading through the bull.... and you want better than that. That means you are not causing the BS and if everyone thought like you in Hollywood it would not be in the dire straits that we are seeing today IMO. In the end it is the struggle that often defines us so keep going and I would say look at the worst disaster films that turned out good for motivation like Jaws, Superman, Star Wars, etc. to keep you in the mindset to wade through it to hopefully be a part of a production that is significant and impactful to all. Really thankful for your insights.
Marquand was out of his depth on Return of the Jedi. He clearly was at sea with the technical aspects of the production.Not to mention he didn't really know how to handle the cast. I never cared much for Marquand or his work on Jedi. i can see why Lucas wanted Lynch to direct Jedi. David would have would have been far better director though I can certainly see why he wasn't interested.
NOW!!! Now The Prequels make SO MUCH SENCE!!! Emperor Lucas wanted the Guild (Trade Federation) and The Studios (Separatist) CRUSHED!!!!!!! The (Hollywood) Republic sucked to!
I'm actually in disbelief at myself, for never having heard Richard Marquand speak before!
Thank you.
Richard Marquand may be the most under appreciated and least discussed of all the major players in Star Wars history.
The Emperor choking Vader is actually a good character building moment for both of them. Of course it never made it to the movie.
Nah, I feel like holding out on the Emperor’s actual force powers until he starts electrocuting Luke was the right move. The audience gets to wonder why even Vader fears the Emperor.
@@froloffanton Ya know, that's actually a solid point. Although, seeing the Emperor's ruthlessness and sheer power by putting Vader in a position of vulnerability would have been neat to see.
I really enjoy your retrospective videos. Really well produced. Keep them coming!
I know it’s not related to Jedi, but to me, I’ve always put Temple of Doom up with Raiders in my mind. Sure it may be dark but it has just as much action and the ending is incredible. I also like Willie more than Marion, you can see her get braver throughout the movie especially when she kicks that Thugee off the minecart.
Willie is the best
I will agree with you about Temple. It's my favorite as well and perhaps some day I will cover that one, but not this year.
@@RepresentThis Looking forward to it and your other videos. You do great work.
When Return of the Jedi came out back then, I was around 10 at the time and my brother was a few years older than me. We used to walk around our house singing the Ewoks Jub Jub song. My mother would just shake her head and ask what the heck we were singing. What great memories from these films.
Another great video and not just because of your shout-out... which, thank you for. I always learn something new and my admiration for Lucas has been deepened, despite his recent statements (if that really was him) in favor of Bob Iger. Keep up the good work.
I believe Lucas' wife who is 25 years his junior and a sitting member on one of the banks invested in Disney is the reason he sided with Iger on the proxy. At least that's my belief.
@@RepresentThis Yeah, it's possible that he's so checked out that he doesn't even know that his name was used or that fans are mad at him, again. I don't blame him, really. At his age, why would he want to enter into that fight?
Hey, this was very well done, AND I’m from Nashville! Cheers, 615er!
Nice, I miss Nashville a lot and the Star Wars community there. My brother still lives there so I get there every few months. Great Escape and the Toys R Us used to be my homes in that area as well.
Love to see you cover Willow. Another property Disney has buried.
Dead and buried.
Personally, I've always said that Lucas may have CREATED Star Wars, but I don't think he ever truly understood the RESULT of it. He always saw Star Wars as a kid's movie, and as someone who first saw the original in the theatres when I was 10 or 11, I'd agree. It has all the tropes the tropes of kid's shows like Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon, mixed with daredevil fighter plane combat from the popular war movies like The Battle of Britain, mixed with Ancient Greek Tragedies that are timeless, mixed with Kurasawa Samurai movies and swash-buckling Douglas Fairbanks and Errol Flynn movies. It's an amalgam of all these popular tropes, made in space. It all sounds a bit silly, and it is! But John Williams' scores elevated it way beyond that and gave it a sense of grandeur that had been missing in 1977.
Empire Strikes Back changed it all, the kids had grown up somewhat and wanted more adult content and they got it. The scenes with Yoda on Dagobah elevated the concepts to a deep dive into good vs evil, giving it an almost religious context. Unfortunately, Lucas still thought of it as kid's movies, and a way to sell merchandise, with the rescue of Han and the Ewoks as a way to sell toys. But us fans continued to grow up and as we did, we wanted more adult content. Lucas instead went back to the silly droids and Gungans in Episode 1. The Prequel trilogy had a great story, but it was executed poorly in my opinion.
Brilliant videos, very good in depth documentary love it 👍
As a young twenty-something my ego might have put my nose in the air on the release of Jedi. Later events proved my nose was firmly shoved up somewhere else and I'm now as fascinated as the next fan in your in-depth videos about Star Wars. Massively entertaining as ever so thank you Sir.
I love, I mean absolutely love your retrospectives.
Thanks Xander, we're trying to upload a video a week now so we will keep them coming.
He was facing the same thing back then, everyone was just about politics, and pandering. The art form , the CONCENTRATION, was preserved because of Lucas, a true artist: who in his fight against the money and control, ended up with all the power.
So legit nothing changed. There's also that whole thing of SW fans having a weird thing with shitting on Lucas then wanting him back and the cycle repeating itself
@@whateverwhatever4476remember though making magic is not for amateurs
that's what people who complain about Disney today don't know, or have forgotten.
they think things have gone "woke" and it was all good back in the day.
Nope!
Lucas had issues FROM DAY ONE!
questions questions from the studio:
"Why isn't the Wookiee wearing any pants"
"Our survey says that films with War in the title don't succeed."
Blah blah...
:-0
When u look at it, Return was really good movie. Opening scene good, Luke and Joda great, Endor and Ewoks bad, space battle was great, Luke, Vader and Emperor was phenomenal and ending was great.
fantastic. thank you for the video.
oh my, the darth vader throw story. thats great.
5:53
Am quite curious about this.
Bcoz in the UK the video came out summer 1982
and the TV premiere was on 23-10-82
Looking forward to your video on Willow!
LOL the parking police lady and the scooter chase. 23:50 To be fair Harrison Ford is just amazing. What direction can you give him? Carrie Fisher didn't have a very extensive career. I miss Lucas Art Games. Disney closing them down and just licensing out the IP to EA was a sign of things to come.
One of my favourite games, which no one else seems to like is Star Wars: Rebellion. If you don't know it, it's an RTS game with also some space battles. It's a really good game and it's crying out for a remake with modern graphics for the battles and maybe some changes to the AI to make it a bit harder. It's one of those games where you can play for 12 hours straight and get lost in the missions. I love it.
I collect memorabilia from these films I love, and have items signed by Nilo, Robert, Ian, Anthony but I never got anything from David and what makes me sad now is how I literally used to drive past his house on the way to work everyday before he passed.
good content as usual
Rewatched the original theatrical last night, before your video appeared via the YT algorithm. As usual while watching, the Ewwww...oks appear out of nowhere, the film falls apart (for me) and I zone and groan out. The choices that finish the trilogy in this (what appears to be 'let's get this over with everyone') trite fashion baffle; whether it's a movie for 12 year olds or not! I suppose, the mild consolation is, it doesn't look like the prequels... but still, it's a shame the saga wasn't capped off with the hoped for, satisfying glory
These videos are so good!
Thank you Raumplestomp.
A return of the Jedi vid? Cool
I always say I don't like RotJ because of Endor. Then I am reminded that Jabba and his palace was in the beginning. Always felt like they ended Empire before starting Jedi proper.
I have mixed feelings about it, like you and it will be covered in my next 2 parts. Hope to see you there.
No disrespect but David Lynch wasn't being honest when he said he didn't want to direct because of Lucas and the Ewoks giving him a headache.
According to Haward Kazanjian's book, he actually accepted the job but then quickly turned it down because he didn't want to work with John Williams and Ben Bert.
In other words, he wanted 100% control of the film's sound.
I took no side as I just stated the different views so there is no possibility for disrespect. There are more views other than just Kazanjian's and one was that Lynch was using the Jedi offer as a bargaining chip for more money and control for Dune. People can explore that stuff if they want to look deeper into the issue. Everyone must decide for themselves what to believe and if you subscribe to your point who am I to dissuade you as I'm not going to pick a side on this. I was not there and don't know who is factual and who is not. Someone is not being honest and I'm not that judge.
@@RepresentThis Ok, I wasn't being confrontational either. I am very aware that the original trilogy era Star Wars films are notorious for having behind the scenes drama with conflicting information due to people constantly saying, "He Said", "She Said", and so on.
It's one of those, the more you learn the less you know kind of scenarios. due to how unusually ambitious these films were and how both wildly and un-expectedly popular they became.
As for me I trust Kazanjian given he tends to be the man in the middle that gets ignored a lot. Plus he has a way better track record for honesty then both George Lucas and (especially) Gary Kurtz combined.
That's why I tend to side with him and James Marquand a lot more when it comes to the subject of Episodes 5 and 6.
I mean Leia *did* strangle Jabba to death with her own slave chain
It's a little late to convince Carrie Fisher of that.
What year was that picture of you Kenney and his wife taken?
November 2000
As amazing this video is, it makes me kind of sad. You start to grow more cynical if you get aware of all the friction, frustration and drama behind the scenes. It's incredibly interesting but it also adds a bitter taste to the enjoyment I had with these movies.
I think in many instances it makes me love them more because one can appreciate what the actors or makers put into it. I will say I was sad to find out that Lucas constantly changed his narratives in my studies and that Prowse died without resolution, but the honor to Prowse is to appreciate him as Vader in the end in my eyes. I guess I turn the negative into a positive in my mind. I also will say looking at this stuff and the drama is miniscule compared to modern day films which are full of divisiveness in the media on both sides. Thanks for your insights.
@@RepresentThis I admire your position. Working in the entertainment industry I experience the dissonance between production, direction and actors on a daily basis and it leaves me baffled, how much loss there is in terms of energy, motivation, vision and money. It always leaves me with two questions: is it really necessary? Meaning is it human nature, and systemic, or a result of ego and bad management? And, how much better could the final product be, if everyone would be pulling on the same string? I know some tension can be fruitful, and there are productions where too much freedom leads to a huge time sink for details, but maybe I just see too much of my own conflicts reflected in your documentary :D
@@MicMirageMusic Your position is admired as well as you are wading through the bull.... and you want better than that. That means you are not causing the BS and if everyone thought like you in Hollywood it would not be in the dire straits that we are seeing today IMO. In the end it is the struggle that often defines us so keep going and I would say look at the worst disaster films that turned out good for motivation like Jaws, Superman, Star Wars, etc. to keep you in the mindset to wade through it to hopefully be a part of a production that is significant and impactful to all. Really thankful for your insights.
LucasArts was fire
Listening to all of it, i don't understand Lucas selling it.
We may never know, thought there is a ton of assumptions why he did what he did.
the tax he'd have to pay if he kept the company.
and getting older...
Marquand was out of his depth on Return of the Jedi. He clearly was at sea with the technical aspects of the production.Not to mention he didn't really know how to handle the cast.
I never cared much for Marquand or his work on Jedi.
i can see why Lucas wanted Lynch to direct Jedi. David would have would have been far better director though I can certainly see why he wasn't interested.
HARDWARE WARS!
1:17 - what am I missing?
Should have went with John Carpenter!
Considering his work on The Thing I agree somewhat, but Carpenter was a bit of a hit and miss director.
NOW!!! Now The Prequels make SO MUCH SENCE!!! Emperor Lucas wanted the Guild (Trade Federation) and The Studios (Separatist) CRUSHED!!!!!!! The (Hollywood) Republic sucked to!
15:15
Good! coz you were totally unsuitable for it.
18:11
But SHE killed Jabba! That was Marquand's idea.
What was with all the little furry things, man? Could have filled that time with so much more.
"Merchandising, merchandising, merchandising; how the real money from the movie is made!"
Did you guys always talk about twitter so much?
I miss talking about ANYTHING else.
Sorry, we don't use twitter. I don't even use a cell phone.
Another triumph!! 👏