Vocal Fry & Fry Screaming Relationship. NOT What You'd Expect! (How to Get Into A Solid Fry Scream)
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Is there a useful relationship between vocal fry and fry screaming? YES there is! ...But it might not be what you'd expect. I get this sort of question a lot from first time private students as well as general messages and inquiries.
Vocal fry is a gateway to all sorts of amazing vocal sounds and sensations if you know how to use it correctly AND... The big one: How to combine it with other techniques and sensations! In this video, I show you exactly how to make good use of vocal fry while also getting rid of some of the confusion surrounding FRY... and fry SCREAMING. I hope you like the new lesson!
If I’m being honest with you, Chris: Out of all the vocal teachers on UA-cam, you are probably the only one whom I’ve listened to and actually improved my singing. I’d only expect this kind of information on a $30/month course, and you give it absolutely freely. I’ve been genuinely inspired and encouraged to practice everyday. I still thank God for the day I found your channel- thank u Chris, I won’t fail to acknowledge you when I become famous, I promise😊🙏🏻🥀
LOVE seeing comments like this... thanks so much!! :)
Same for me he is a fucking legend
Same Chris is the real MVP and 🐐
Do you have any content Sharon? I'd love to check out your work if you have any
@@samueljohnson9566 not as of yet, sorry. I'm still working on myself; I'm a bit of a perfectionist, you know?😅
1:15
Chris: where is the SUUUUUUUUUUUN
Captions: [Applause]
Fry screaming is a term I introduced in 2004. It is a non-periodic pulse register only like vocal fry in speech science because of its aperiodicity BUT VERY DIFFERENT because there is NO engagement of the aryepiglottic folds or false cords. Fry screaming is achieved ONLY by the engagement of the vocal ligament (mode 2) without the weight of additional muscular layers in the folds. The huge advantage of acquiring this coordination is the 5-10k hertz capability which is perceptualy much louder without the effort. I propose that this is because too much vocal fold mass/weight cannot pulse fast enough to create these higher partials. Another huge advantage to fry screaming is the seamless transition between pitch and noise. This is because everything occurs at the true fold source without constriction allowing more compelling resonating strategies. Constriction prevents resonance in the posterior vocal tract. The source of the noise is from the aryepiglottic folds colliding with the epiglottis- there is a big adjustment to remove and replace noise within a lyric. It is not incorrect if done with a stability between subglottal pressure and laryngeal position, but I have observed is def not sustainable for lighter voices. It's also harder to mix in a track without a ton of EQ.
False cord screaming is a term I made up, which refers exclusively to constriction. There is also Hybrid, the term I use to describe when voice is making pitch in the anterior (front) portion of the folds mixed with fry in the posterior portion. Hybrid sounds like false cord but without the heavy lifting. Many artists have moved to this strategy by better coordination inspired by a need for heavy touring sustainability. The 4th strategy I labeled as "Death" because in the early millennium, bands tribalized sub genres of metal and that sound, comprising of blasts of air combined with a depressed laryngeal posture (ie Cookie Monster) Never meant to compartmentalize- I have observed that learning fry screaming and hybrid first will make the constriction strategies more sustainable. I love your vids- just thought I might clarify any confusion here🤘🏻
WOW!! Thanks for this Melissa! And thanks for watching some of my videos! I'd love to talk with you further sometime if you're up for it! chris@mymusicalvoice.com
OMG it's Melissa Cross!!!
Dude…. Wow.
Holy shit its the OG
Scream royalty has spoken. ALL HAIL THE CROSS!!!!
“Where is the sun?” I can’t see it either. There must be a *Shadow on the Sun.*
YES YES
For some reason, every time I watch your videos, I think I've finally unlocked my screaming voice as I try...and just 10 mins later, its gone
I get SO much satisfaction when I hear you scream in your singing. I hope to learn to do this someday 🙌🏻
man please reword that
In other words... SHANANANANANAANEEEEE NEEEE! I WANNA EAR YOU SCREAAAAAM 🗣🗣🗣
Same!
You'll get it if you practice enough. Some people pick it up super quick. For me it took years to get it down now im learning new methods so I can take better care of my voice
I learn false chord in one day with your tutorial now i able to do fry also
Alternate Title: How to burp, but musically.
I've been trying this technique for 4 months now, and I've just learnt, right now in my room, how to make this sound efficient, thanks to this video! THANKS TO YOU! Now I need to practice more to make this work on various pitches and keeping it in control, but I'm not worried because I'm buying your course for this, definitely. Best voice teacher on UA-cam.
Awesome! See you in the course!! Thanks for the great comment and for your engagement this far along!
Listening to people like Chris and some other artists being honest about screaming and the growth and struggle is so reassuring...
You’re the only UA-cam vocal coach that I’ve seen who actually helped me gain range and control. Like over an octave gained. I like digging into these type of lessons as well, you make a lot of sense dude. Wish I could afford the class right now, one day!
gosh very helpful but also the fact that this is just a full quarter of an hour of making the weirdest noises i love it so much
as a singer and voice teacher myself this is HANDS DOWN the best video I have seen about vocal fry and its relationship with fry screams. I have a neurological voice disorder called Spasmodic Dysphonia so for me my vocal fry is inaccessible when the "supraglottal squeeze" kicks in due to having the issue but on good days I can relax my voice down into the vocal fry register and can get a little fry scream going and it seems its getting more and more consistent as the days goes by. I have no issues with doing distortions, arynetoid distortions, even false folds screams but the fry scream always got me and I never saw any videos on UA-cam that personally helped me except your videos including this one so Thank you so much for putting out such great contents for all of us.
Keep these amazing videos coming! bless you Chris! like 486 from me 🙏👍👍😀😀
Thanks for the story and your comment... and for your viewing support and likes :) !!
Random thought... if a person from France uses vocal fry, would it be considered a French fry? 🤔
Sure
HAHAHAHAHA
Yes
Always.
If a person from the UK uses vocal fry, does it become vocal chip?
14:25 Oh great mr. Magician Liepe, give me the great gift of divine vocals
hehe... DONE :)
I've always been able to do vocal fry. Did it when I was a kid to annoy my sister. Great stuff sir.
"where is the sUUUUUUUUN" :D
Theres no person that explains better than this guy, congrats dude, you are a pretty inteligent person cause you know how to explain well such a difficult topic
Thanks so much... glad my approach resonates with you!
Excellent way of explaining these concepts!
Chris, thank you SO MUCH for this !
This is THE video my 2019/2020 self needed. I needed to clear this whole thing up and you've allowed me to do that intellectually. Now, I gotta go upset my neighbors. ✌️
Awesome!
You're the best Chris!!!
I actually nodded along as if he was personally giving me a lesson
That’s great! Glad it connected with you!
This is the first vocal coach video I have seen anywhere that accurately shows how sing or scream and how to transition. Subscribed instantly!
Thanks for the sub!! :)
Brilliant lesson, thanks Chris. Always informative and always engaging.
You are so good in teaching this stuff 👍
Very solid stuff! Some of this I knew already, but you definitely clarified a few things. I know how to scream, but I'm not sure what technical category it fits under.
This guy can scream well and has an extremely good physique. Me on the opposite end, am a potato 🥔 🙃
Mmmmmm potatos 😄
You can work on both physique and voice😁
Ya know, in Idaho, the potato is considered a delicacy.
I'm also opposite, but on the other side of the spectrum, like a mosquito.
Fry and potato... it was meant to be 😆
I appreciate the free course helps me out alot thank you Chris.
Great and explicit vídeo. Cheers
Whoa this video made so much sense and was actually helpful. Thank you!!!
You are a insanely good teacher
thank you so much! after so many videos i referred to, this one explains very well that i finally hit the right one!
Best vid I've seen on the subject 'til now. Thanks dude! Very insightful
Starting back gigging soon after nearly two a half years and this is great info to help with the more belty songs!
synchronicity! Was just thinking about this. Thank You Chris
Perfect!
Chris, idk how to thank you! in few minutes you are capable of teaching incredible stuff and I'm improving a lot seen your videos, ur great bro
I love these videos, thanks for putting them out there!
Glad you like them!
It's the "redrum" sound! Thanks for all of help Chris. Best teacher out there!
Chris, you're probably hands-down the single best vocal coach on UA-cam. Just ONE of your videos took me from a pretty decent vocal range to breaking into the over two octave range. I love how much fun you seem to be having with all of it, too!
May you get EVERY blessing you deserve, brother!
Thanks for the free exercises, it will help me a lot. I always watch your videos here on you tube. A Brazilian fan
Chris, your technique tips have given me back my confidence as a vocalist.
I have stopped trying to progress for about six years due to frustration with mix/ belting.
I have simply skipped over how to do it while practising the growling/ fry techniques you tought in other videos. It is so elating to finally get back into the gam eagain. I have missed this so much.
I want to thank you for all of this. Once I am satisfied, I will probably record a video and send it your way.
All the best mate.
This is my comment under another comment here.
Figuring out that you should not be much louder than your speaking voice is another game changer. You can be louder sometims with some screams, but even the most brutal can be done quietly. It is how you don't screw up your voice long term. I was also getting major headaches from too much pressure from overprojecting. If anyone is struggling with high pitched scream sounds, like Black Metal specifically, it is done with the slightest pressure in comparison to the mid and low screams. I thought I could not do them since I could only do them quiet. And if anyone does not believe me they can go watch Randy from Lamb of God sing Omerta live. Pay attention to his speaking voice volume, and then his screams, especially the high ones. Done with very little pressure, and the mic and processing does the rest, even live audio, but especially the final product for an album.
SO right on!
the most down to earth tutorials, thank you
Glad you like them!
You’re just amazing, I’ve been watching your videos like for a year and half and my singing has improved so freaking much. I owe it all to you man!
Great to hear!
it feels like we first imagine how it sound, and then our brain try to imitate . Going to that 7 quiet exercises , thanks man this video was fun!
Excellent!
I am so glad I found this channel. Keep teaching Chris, you're an amazing teacher!!!
Thank you! Will do!
Great research!
Found this extremely enlightening thanks so much!
You're so welcome!
Very cool!
ive been trying to figure out this method without strain on the voice for a while and this video just helped me solve the puzzle thanks chris you freakin rock man
Glad it helped!
This was so helpful, thanks Chris!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for teaching me
Brilliant work :O need to use it :D
This guy is one of the best free coaches. Literally giving out million dollar information out. So we got to get him those views and get him his money people!
One of the best explanations / exercises I've seen to explore this concept!
Great to hear!
Great video, Chris. You cleared some stuff up for me. Very insightful.
Glad it helped!
You are great men
It makes such a difference betwen your free videos and all the other content on youtube (which will lead us to paid courses). You inspire me and I've been practicing every day since I found your channel thanks to a friend of mine. Thank you, Chris. You are the best.
Thanks a lot Chris, i learned to manipulate my voice all by myself. Mainly by trying to impersonating Videogame characters and giving a pleasend experienece as a DnD DM. And your tutorials give me the same sensation as learning to manipulate my voice without any "goal". And now, that i am learning to sing/shout/growl/whatever i really benefit from your videos.
Man your videos are a real treat, checked your distortion video few days ago, I've been practising it ever since and it's so easy to follow and its great how you can divide everything into smaller steps, as a martial artist (amateur but still) I can tell you that that's the best way to teach our body, and our voice/vocal chords are no exception. Great job man!
Thanks so much! I'm glad you're enjoying the approach!!
So this video was a game changer for me. This is the missing link ive been looking for. Thanks
You're welcome!
This is the best explanation I've seen for fry screams. I could never get screams right with other videos, so I experimented a bit with the fry and learned the 'holding back halfway' thing. That seemed to be the biggest missing piece for me from other tutorials
This is great to hear!
Hey was able to to it!
Watching you sing, then watching you analyses your wave file has been vary helpful! It would be great if you made more videos using this format, thanks!!!
This is good to know as far as how this format works for you! I'll definitely do more of this!
Chris! You gotta do a HOW TO SING LIKE JONATHAN DAVIS OF KORN!
THIS
YESS PLS
Easy! Get spanked by your daddy, grab a mic and whine about it til your old 🤣🤣🤣
Ps - Don't forget to cry at the end of the song!
@@vishnualcyone9170 😆
It took me a long time to figure out fry screams even though I’ve been “false chord screaming” for around 10 years now. I finally figured out how to properly fry scream a few months ago by playing with the distortion in my head voice and then figuring out how to just eliminate the pitch.
man i need to say your lessons are so great. increase my vocals and this vocal fry is something surreal , have help me too much... thank you to share this program with all of us
You’re so welcome!
I was trying to sing crawling and this is the perfect video
Same
This is BY FAR the best video I've watched on this topic. The descriptions, demonstrations and break-downs were brilliant. Well done mate. Guess this is why I'm a student of this genius!
Glad it speaks to you!
Dude, I keep repeating at 11:25
Your voice sounded absolutely fantastic there, I hear a little bit of all my favorite singers in it 🤘
:)
megadeth
This video answered questions I've had for literally 15 years.
Thank you.
Nice
My dude! Oh yes, I'm here for the discourse as well as the psychoaudiology. :)
And you managed to find where the sun hit..? Wonderful work, blessings.
New subscriber here. Degree in classical guitar
, part of the worship band at my church and have been teaching guitar for over 30 years. Love this channel I’m hoping to develop my voice to start singing in the worship band at my church
Chris, honestly you are the most consistent and best vocal coach/music channels on UA-cam, you’re so informed and helpful, such an underrated channel man, well done and keep it up!
Thank you so much! I WILL keep it up! Channel is only 3 years old... I'm so blessed that it has taken off like it has.. Looking forward to many more years!
@@chrisliepe it’s great seeing it grow !
Fire video after fire video 👌🏻🔥
Thanks 🌹
Thank you man for sharing this. This is very very interesting for me. Those examples will help me more to make progress. Beautiful. 👍🙂🎶👌 I will watch the video several times to get all the juice...
Nice
We need a comp of just all of the noises together so someone can make a sick tune with it
The king of fry! 👑 Your tutorials have helped me a lot, thank you!
Happy to hear that!
@@chrisliepe I never learned to sing with constant fry, but to sort of add flavour. It is still very difficult, but this is a song where I found it worked out best: ua-cam.com/video/IYPIHcoGy4M/v-deo.html
What do you think, do you have any tips?
I've gotta say you nailed the pitch for "exercises that won't annoy your neighbors". Gotta go check that out now! :)
oh good!
I'm sooooo happy because he is the First guy who finally can explain me how screaming is goin! Now i'm motivated to learn it... thank you for your Videos, thry will change my live !
Rock on!
My suggestion is to really get the feel of Fry Distortion first. Never push, you will hurt your vocals. Probably will need to cough after an irritation in the back of your throat, that shouldn't happen. Once you get that feel, you will have your quite fry scream, then you could get louder with your support. I've used multiple videos to help get the hang of it, definitely takes time. Chris Liepe, amazing job with what you do!
great
Thanks! You are great!
You're so welcome!
Holy shit major light bulb moment. Now I am starting to understand how singers like Chris Cornell add that raspy texture to their singing voice. Going to be practicing making all sorts of interesting noises. My poor neighbors. lol.
Oh yeah big thank you for going the extra mile. It's connected other videos on this subject and now it's starting to make more sense as a whole.
Hey Chris, I've really missed your covers and self analysis!
More coming soon!
Thanks Chris.
So welcome!
I can't thank you enough. I'm still working on my distortion technique but that part was not adding up.
Excellent - Im still taking the class with chris - great great vocal artist - coach!!!
Wonderful!
Tis is in the sky mate!!
You are the best
Thanks :)
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Hey Chris, just wanted to give your a big thanks for all your work! I am still miles apart from the vocals I wanna achieve one day, but that's on my part and partly due to the fact that a lot of the vocalists I like engage in unhealthy techniques; so that's that. Nonetheless, your videos brought me a bunch of steps closers to achieving that goal. Keep up the great work!
You're so welcome! Glad it has helped!
This man is a fkn genius....
Man, I’ve been doing metal vocals for about 16 years, I do amazing false chords, but for all of these years I could never get the hang of fry screaming. For some reason I always tense up to much.
In my experience, there is no isolated fry scream or false cord scream, you're always vibrating your false cord AND the back of your throat (which generates the fry).
Sometimes you're giving more emphasis to the false cord and sometimes more to the back of the throat. For example, it's easy to do a low false cord scream, but its nearly impossible to get a decent high false cord scream...
That's what made me confused about screaming. While I was trying to isolate either false cord or fry, I was garbage, I was pushing my throat. Once I realized that it's impossible to isolate one from another, I became a legend in a few weeks...
ABSOLUTELY the correct way to look at this! I talk about this exact mindset you're sharing in many of my other screaming videos. There's not a REAL delineation. It's all the same vocal tract! :)
Figuring out that you should bot be much louder than your speaking voice is another game changer. You can be louder sometims with some screams, but even the most brutal can be done quietly. It is how you don't screw up your voice long term. I was also getting major headaches from too much pressure from overprojecting. If anyone is struggling with high pitched scream sounds, like Black Metal specifically, it is done with the slightest pressure in comparison the the mid and low screams. I thought I could not do them since I could only do them quiet. And if anyone does not believe me they can go watch Randy from Lamb of God sing Omerta live. Pay attention to his speaking voice volume, and then his screams, especially the high ones. Done with very little pressure, and the mic and processing does the rest, even live audio.
@@vaderguitarplayer Interesting - I'll keep that in mind. I imagine there's also some development of musculature that needs to happen, through exercise. As in, even if you got it right, technically, the first time, it would still sound a bit meek, because you haven't practiced those muscles enough?
Great addendum to the video. Based on what you're saying, that's where a lot of pain comes from, when you try to raw scream, for the first time, cause you're ramming into the pure false cords, with no support.
@@vaderguitarplayer i am getting pretty decent at those screams around Bb4-D5, and you’re absolutely right. It was so quiet that i kept pushing more and my voice was cracking! It wasn’t until i chilled out and did what *felt* and *sounded* good that i started making progress. My clean belts are still shouty, but at least i’m doing the most dangerous thing, screaming, correctly!
Don't talk to me or my sun ever again.
Hello
what is u on about
@@DeedatFXbecause where is the sun lol
he not talk u bo
your sun will shine? xP
FINALLY, AFTER SO MANY ATTEMPTS TO COMPREHEND WHATS GOING ON.
I did a note, added fry, added power, went back to the note to add it back - BOOM, MY FIRST FRY.. uhm fry... note? ;D