Saving This Basket-Case Rusted American Flyer "Pacific"
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Viewer Donation 1955 American Flyer #293 "Pacific" 4-6-2 showed up in the bottom of a box full of parts. I decided to save this little engine
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What a magnificent result.
Thank you very much!!
@@classicmodeltrains I especially love how you did not restore the model to factory condition and instead made it something beautiful for someone to run on their layout. In the end you created a piece of beautiful model railway art.
Wow, Ron, you've not only brought this "basket case" back, you outdid yourself with the cool custom paint job! Awesome work-please keep the videos coming!
Thank you very much!!
WOW Ron, you didn't just bring this one back from the dead, it was buried and decomposing. It looks fantastic.
Thanks so much! I like your descriptive word usage :-)
Wow! What a POS locomotive to start with and a miraculous restoration.Loved the custom paint job.
Thank you very much Richard!
Beautiful paint job on that locomotive and another chance to CRANK UP THE TUNES!
Many thanks Mark!
One less for landfill! Great rescue, great re-livery and a great smoker. Top job!
Thanks Darren👍
Ron, that looks fantastic you did a great job restoring this and the paint on the Loco looks awesome.
Thanks so much Tim!
Up from the grave it arose!
Nice save Ron! I’m digging your terminology;
Basket case!
Thanks Ricky👍
I noticed you found the steam whistle for the shell. Nice job repairing something that otherwise would have been trashed. Great video. I'm looking forward to the next one. 33%
Thanks for your channel support! Yup found the bell right away. Made a steam whistle out of a 1/8" pop rivet and some fab skills
I loved the shoe polish idea! It's great to see these "over loved" trains come back to life!
Glad you enjoyed it David!
Absolutely incredible Ron!! That loco looks AWESOME!! I often wonder why they didnt do it like that from the factory. Then again, I guess the tech wasnt there back in the 50's.
Thanks Ray! Guess it would cost to much to put another color on it?
Best one yet Ron.....keep them Flying!!!!
Thank you!
A trainologist!….bringing back history!….first great video of the year!
Many thanks Thomas !
That looks awesome smokes better than some of the new ones. Great job Ron can't believe it came out of the bottom of a barrel. Sweet
Thanks John! Yup Dave told me he found it at a scrap metal facility. It almost didnt make it if it wasn't for his sharp eye.
You are the "magic man ". Thanks for the fun video and tips!
Thanks for watching Lee!
absolutely the best revival I have seen in a long time!
Thank you very much Gary!
Thank You for sharing. You my friend did a very nice job on the AF 293, bringing her back from the dead. You saved another one. 👍
Thank you as well!!
Great rebuild and paint job! the suggestions on the vise and shoe polish brushes are very helpful .
Thanks John, Glad to help out where I can :-)
As a fan of the New Haven, Thank you for doing such a great job on this unit! So glad you didn't paint the cab roof red!
Thank you!
Thank you Ron. I learn so much watching you fix Locos. It must be really satisfying after the finished product is ran.
You're a great mechanic. A Natural.
Glad to be helping out the modeling community, Thanks for your compliments!
Good job. It is our responsibility at model train enthusiasts to save as much as we can before these pieces are to far gone.
I agree with you Stan
That looks awesome. Love doing stuff like this. A tip for you. When tapping a hole...I dump a little 3 in 1 silicone oil into a small container. Mine is a 1 inch round container with a lid. I dip the tap into the oil then do my tap. When I need more oil...just dip the tap into the oil and all the filings come off and oil you tap again. When done do the same thing. Dip it in the oil and al the filings come off. Just wipe the excess oil off and put it away. This way it dont rust and makes things alot easier.
A great idea for sure! I was using oil, but I wiped the tap off every plunge in and out with a rag.
Ron
Love what you did the basket case AF . Great ingenuity on use of original truck rivets. Also I like the paint scheme and shoe polish idea. YOU SAVED ANOTHER ONE. Thanks. Jim
Thanks Jim 👍
Wow, great job Ron 👏. From trash to treasure, fun to watch you get them back to life again. I like the idea of the boot brush, going to have to try. Thanks for sharing, glad to be part of the 33% . Cheers.
Thanks for your compliments and support of my channel Robert :-)
Nice job working on something you're not familiar with. As you may or may not know by now, you do not need to bend the tabs on the reverse unit to remove it. Once the screw is out it will slide right out. The wheels will also come out of the sintered trucks for cleaning but caution must be used not to break the trucks from the metal frames. I like your "use what you got" methods. The cast pieces are actually zinc fwiw. The repaint looks absolutely beautiful.
Hello Steve, Thank you for the compliments. Not having to bend them tabs would be a great thing. I will do your "trick" on the next one for sure. I attempted to remove the tender wheel sets and got nervous. If I broke a truck side frame it would have been bad so I chose the safe route. I always want to call the zamac cast pieces aluminum. It's a bad habit that I need to break. I just wrote the word "zamak" on the wall in front of me so I can reference it and not blow it in the future. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge of stuff with me :-)
Fantastic job on getting a basket case looking and running great again.
Thank you Mark
Ron that was awesome, your presentations are so full of passion and love for this great hobby. You raised a loco from the dead and made it into a thing of beauty and the hard work and effort you put into this loco is a credit to your talent. Well done you.
Thanks for the compliments Chris :-)
Marvelous work Ron! You’re really a gifted person!
Thanks Regis. This was a fun one to work on. Really did bring it back from the dead
Looks fantastic! Thanks for sharing. Some very useful suggestions.
Thanks John, I'm always coming up with some new "out of the box" way of doing things.
That was some really impressive work. I have to say I'm jealous of your mechanical skills. You seem to know just what parts to use even when they are missing. Amazing.
Been fixing things most of my life. Practice makes perfect they say ;-)
Hoooooooooly moooooly! That was an amazing transformation. You should be very proud. 👍
Thank you very much Jon. The paint job really pulled it together :-)
nailed it!! best resto yet..AF never looked so good....
Thanks so much!
Wow, what a transformation. Lovely paint job.
Thanks piers!
What an amazing rebuild!!
Thank you Russ :-)
Another stellar video. My brother had a K5 pacific. Unfortunately the whole set was stolen many years ago. It was great to see this one restored to such a high level,
Thank you Don! Who steals another man's train set.....Unbelievable
One thing I like about your channel is the tools that you use to get the job done. I went out to Harbor Freight not too long after watching and purchased one of those table vices. I love it! It IS that third hand for sure!
Glad to help out a Fellow Modeler :-)
So I'm here watching the 293 rescue. I think someone added those trucks to the tender. They look like action car trucks, like a milk car, lumber car, or coal car. The little pick-up that sticks out of the truck rides on a special rail that is connected to the track. No oil in the smoke chugged as it just attracts dirt. Great save, Ron!
Those are the factory original trucks for this loco -tender combo. Just read up on it in one of my AF books. Seems a bit over-engineered for sure though :-)
@@classicmodeltrains Gotcha! I know they put those shoes on most of the diesels. I will have to see if my 293 has em. Enjoy your refurbished loco!
@classicmodeltrains Yep, I checked my 293 and they are the same trucks as yours. Never trust what I say Ron, I lie 😆
You really did a good job with this. I have rebuilt three 290s from parts of about five different locomotives and I have a 292 in my fleet also. The first two 290 had the pilot broken off, but the broken piece for one was in the box. I used that to make a mold with candle wax into which I put JB Weld to make the second pilot. By now you may have realized that you didn't need to straighten the two tabs to remove the e-unit. Once the screw is removed the unit just slides out with a slight lift. One of my 290s is going to get a complete face lift which will include removing the center seam from the connecting of the two cast sides, and removal of the molded on handrails and replacement with separate hand rails. After adding a few more details, it will be painted in the green with gold and white trim of the Southern Railroad.
Hello Mark, Thank you. I seen the metal tabs first and then spotted the screw. I know now how to do it properly. always a learning curve. Sounds like you are going to have a real nice locomotive when you are done :-)
Nice job Ron. That engine looks great, looks like a solid runner. Beautiful locomotive. Great show
Thank you very much John!
It’s a good day when there’s a Classic Model Trains upload.
Thanks so much :-)
Great job. Those old Flyer steamers sure are well made!
Thank you. Yes good bones to work with for sure :-)
Great, creative restoration -- best to you and yours in 2024 -- looking forward to more!
Thanks Stephen, best to you and yours as well!!
Splendid job Ron ,master reconstruction
Thanks very much!
Wow what a great job Ron really enjoyed this total build
Thanks AE, oh and BTW I seen you sent a friend request on the FB to my personal page. I don't use FB personal page. My FB fan page "classic model trains" works almost the exact same and I post updates about train stuff there. Messaging works the same as well :-)
You said you were a professional you look professional to me good job it's amazing you can fix something like that keep them coming brother
Oh I dont want to be a professional. Then Fellers will expect way to much out of me :-D
Ron a few days ago I was watching your video on the Chesapeake flyers set made by MPC it looked familiar to me so I went to my train room and found the complete set that was given to me on Christmas about 15 years ago from a friend Because of your video, I am going to service that engine. A few days later I am watching video on the 293 American flyer again it looks familiar, so I dug under my bench and found the complete set. It was presented to me from a fellow officer who wanted me to have it That set has four cars of caboose, tender and engine Mine is a much better shape than the one you resurrected. I will clean it and lube it because of your video. Thanks for information on two sets that I forgot I had.
Wow! What a crazy coincidence!! Pretty cool now you will have 2 sets all cleaned, re-lubed and running the rails once again. :-). Officer? Ex Military or L.E? Either way, Thank you for your service! Im Ex-Army, early 90's.
You forgot to mention the 290 link-coupler version. And also the front of the boiler has the New Haven generator up on top of the front. Great job. TM former AF collector
Thanks Ted
Enjoyed the way you cleaned up that old American Flyer steam engine! Many opportunities here to buy some old toy trains! Now I have some ideas of how to clean up some nicely detailed trains! Thanks! Always a good "show."
Glad you enjoyed it :-)
You did an amazing job! Go American Flyer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you Don!!
Excellent job on this restoration as always. You always do amazing work but this one blew me away.......love it!!!
Thank you very much T-Bird!
What you’re doing is pretty cool Ron! Thanks for sharing it with us.
Thank you Rick! Thank you for watching :-)
Man , this guy is like a doctor to trains
Thanks!
Well done Ron!! It looks Fantastic!! Great job! Your efforts have really paid off. I look forward to watching your videos bringing trains back to life when they were written off. Tom
Thanks so much Tom. I'm kind of a semi-professional turd polisher ;-D
That was masterful! Amazing job! That was fun to watch, and inspiring!
Glad you enjoyed it Alan!
Astonishingly good. Love the sustainable approach.
Thank you Sir!!
Wow Ron, I've seen it all now. Not many people would go to the extremes of salvaging a train off of the Titanic. Nice job. Nice tip for thr polishing technique. I'll have to give it a try. I use a very light coating of motor oil applied with a paint brush on the extremely dull diecast shells that likely lived in the attic. It takes a day or two to assorb the oil but it restores the original paint to its original luster.
The engine and tender turned out great. Love that vice it looks like it would handier than clothes pins on a hanger. How many hands does it take to work it😊.
Off the Titanic! I LOVE IT!!!!!!! You know that oil idea sounds pretty good to me as well. I use two hands to pick it up and move it. Definitely got some weight
Now I don’t feel so bad about some of the junk, oops I mean quality antiques I might be sending you soon. ❤
Rare N.O.S. parts and pieces with a bit of experience ;-)
What a good video to pass my time. I really didn’t think it was going to turn out so good it was in bad shape like it was sitting at the bottom of a lake lol. Thanks for another great video 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks for the compliments! Ive done a few rusty ones. I enjoy the challenge. You should eye-ball the video I made on a wind up Marx Vanderbilt. That one was 4 times as rusty :-)
Now that’s what I call a nice smoker and it turned out great looking
I couldn't believe how much smoke it poured out. It could sure fill up a train room in a half hour session :-)
Another completely successful rebuild into a loco that is handsomer than the original !
Thank you Norman!
Even tho the body should be only black that silver looks killer. Great restoration
Thanks Joshua, If the body would not been damaged I would have left it all black. It is nice to see a little color on a AF :-)
Nice looking little unit, with the custom paint and upgraded pilot!
I never thought that bunch of pieces-parts would turn into something that both runs and looks amazing. Keep 'em coming, and happy new year, Ron!
Thanks Mr A! H.N.Y. to you as well
What a fantastic turnaround on this one!
Thank you Jacob!
I LOVE your “bring ‘em back from the dead” videos in all gauges, Ron! We all learn SO much from you, as well as be entertained by your skills!
Please keep them coming! 🚂
Thank you Joseph :-)
I just finished a Lionel caboose #6017 that had wheels and frame that looked much like what you're working on there. Had to repaint the metal frame after sanding and wire brushing. Came out looking great. Nice restoration on the AF. Good price on that vice but I've got a 4 inch vice (Sears) mounted on my work bench. Definitely comes in handy. Rather than bending the tabs back down you can just give them a little twist with the pliers. Less stress on the metal. Cheers from eastern TN
Thanks for the good tip. A little twist would be better for the metal for sure
I'm going to have to try the shoe polish idea too. Same problem, dirt hides in the edges and won't come out. Ive repaired one or two of the 293's. Great engines, not my personal favorites. $5 for a shell is a good price, i'd say. I'm thinking I might have to try my hand at custom painting too. I like the addition of silver.
Most of my A.F.s are Atlantics so I was pretty happy when a beat up Pacific finally landed in my hands. I would never re-paint a Classic if it had good factory paint on it, this one was really hammered so I got a chance to refine my skill sets some more :-)
It’s feels good when a person works on a basket case and is able to revive them. Great work!
Thanks SilverT. Your right! there is a warm fuzzy feeling when its finished for sure :-)
Super awesome fantastic job on that one. Very enjoyable to watch you put your creative talents to work. Your in-process explanations are so well done. So easy to watch and listen to. Great work all around. Wow!
Thank you very much Wayne!
Ron that’s a fantastic 🎉 job . Looks better than it does new in the day !🍻🍻👏🏼👏🏼
Thanks so much!
way to bring that loco back from the dead nice job👍
Thank you very much :-)
Great paint job Ron! Wonderful work!! Looks fantastic! Happy New Year Sir!
Thanks Erick and Happy new year to you and yours as well!
Hello Ron Happy New Year I like your videos you make me smile when you talk to the trains
Thank you Paul and happy new year to you and yours as well. Am I talking to the trains? Oh Ooh..... I need a break ;-)
beautiful job man , loved the AC/DC
Hey Shakey! Have not heard from you in a while, Hope all has been going well Sir!!
all good buddy all good , all the very best for the new year , watch you often buddy you do some interesting stuff @@classicmodeltrains
Another great job. My brother had the exact same one but it’s a long gone. I still have some of the passenger cars that came with it.
Thank you Blues !
Good stuff !! Gettin me one of those vises from horrifying freight for my train bench and my work bench. Didn't see it last time I was there, but it's now on my list. Thanks - keep it coming.
I hate H.F. stuff. Usually junk. I will count the days on this vise.
Great Tips especially the shoe polish dry of course. Thanks Happy New Year! And it's Great to start the New Year off with Classic Model Trains!!!!
Thank you Butch and H.N.Y. to you and yours as well
The tender with a flat finish looks weathered, and I kind of like that. "Patina" is the word. 😉
With the repaint of the loco I didnt want to spray the shell with a dull coat until I knew the color coat has cured. I ruined a Marx loco repaint when the color coat lifted due to the dull coat. In about a month I will dull coat it and I believe it will more closely match the tender. Oh.......unless your talking about the "before" image of the tender before I took the boot brush after it :-)
@@classicmodeltrains Yes, I liked the "before" look. A working tender perspective. 💯
That's impressive! Back from the dead.
Thank you John :-)
Great video for the 33 percenters! Thanks
Thank you Patrick!
Your 293 is a model of a New Haven I-4.Check google images for prototype pictures. Nice Job on the Restoration!
Thanks for the good info and compliment Greg!
Beautiful restoratoration.
Thank you Maltux!
Great job! Turned out great!!!
Thank you David!
All I can say is WOW, this is the kind of thing I love doing, I do it in N Scale...
Thank you! I dont run into to much N stuff up here. need to find some soon!
Hi Ron great job on that loco turned out great
Thank you Peter :-)
It turned out beautiful.
Thank you David
Great job, Ron. I like the paint job, although I doubt the New Haven Railroad would have spent the extra money for silver paint! If you look carefully at a catalog, you'll find that you are missing the coal feeder on top of the tender coal pile. Probably a few bucks.
Hello Ron. With all the pure black A.F. steamers upon my wall I just wanted to see a little color. I know pretty much nothing on how the prototype owners would decorate their livery. You make a good point, but I thought I read somewhere the black on a steamer is a high temperature paint and is expensive and the silver is cheaper because it's not high temp. Although more in labor cost to do two tone paint schemes. The last few hours of videoing and looking up specs I did see this tender originally had a coal pusher. The plastic piece got lost. I shall try and source one. Thanks for stopping in :-)
Ron, you are truly gifted , beautiful restoration, love your blogs, you are truly a unique individual, always look forward to your vlogs, much respect
Wow, thank you Very much Joe!
Use automotive bulb #1447 or 1445 for screw in light sockets. They will work good. You can find them at your local auto parts store, especially places like NAPA or Oh, Oh, Oh, O'Reillys. Advance or Autozone may have them too.
1447 will be brighter at normal cruise and last longer too.
Great rebuild, love your work!
I shopped all 4 major autoparts stores yesterday and none of them stocked the bulbs. a 1447 is a 1/4 twist in. 1449 was the closest in there books but none in town. Gunna have to do the amazon to get what I need I guess.
@classicmodeltrains a 1449 Wagner bulb is rated at 14volts and 2amps, so it will work and look fairly bright, too.
I've used 1449 bulbs when I couldn't find boxes of 1447's on hand at NAPA. I just prefer what an old train repair man gave me a big box of years ago. If I can find my cross reference guide, I'll send you the new numbers in another post.
@@crabbinmoose8583 I found a list of all Lionel bulbs ever used and a cross reference to GE numbers. Been working on a big amazon order and get every bulb a feller could ever need. Gets so old fixing ufo something and the headlight bulbs always burnt out. Thanks for the good info though 🙂
😆 se senior.
That dang headlight's always burnt on'em UFO's, man. LoL 🥸👍
American flyer and Lionel bulbs are, for the most part, interchangeable, so if it works in one and matches the other like a doublemint twin, that cross reference will get a guy to the current part no.
The old fella gave me his Bible (Lionel repair manual), and I used that page you're telling about to go surfing on the net when the local parts clerk didn't know what I needed such a small bulb like that for WHEN I told him I was working on a train. He was pulling up a sheet on EMD when I corrected his search and explained that it was only for a MODEL train engine and not a full sized one.
@@classicmodeltrains you're welcome!
Thanks for the tips and clips to show the progress!
Another great video Ron and even a Boston reference! Jeff
Thanks Jeff 👍
Yes, this is a fun video Ron. Nice work as usual.
Glad you enjoyed it Charles
A really good job. Did you remember to put the gear cover on? Also, there is a smoke unit tube that screws into the top of the smoke unit. They are either metal or red plastic depending on the locomotive model. With a mini-torch you probably could have built the cowcatcher from brass. Happy New Year. Keep on Chugging.
Hello John, The gear cover is on and can be seen in the part of the video when Im attaching trailing trucks and boiler shell. I read about the smoker tube. I would have made one but didn't have small enough brass stock here to get started, and was under pressure to finish the video. I was attempting to solder the brass cowcatcher but every time I warmed up the piece with my soldering iron the previous pieces got hot and the solder melted. I figured I need to get some more learning under my belt on how to solder scratch built stuff together before I attempt it again. Happy new year to you as well :-)
Fantastic video Ron. You made my morning. It didn't look like a keeper when I first saw the condition of the engine, but I knew you were the guy to make it run again.
What do you think of the motor hook up to the drive? I thought it was genius.
Them engineers at A.F. did a nice job on this drive system for sure. Clean and simple. I was surprised that most of the parts made it into the box that Dave sent me. they were scattered all over inside it. To much of what could turn into a nice locomotive to just let it go.
You did a great job.
thank you. :-)
Vinegar can work for rust removal but (so I've read) items cleaned with it should be neutralized with baking powder afterwards. Left in contact with vinegar long enough, even steel items will be eaten by it.
You might want to look into evapo-rust for rust removal, or even electrolysis (though even those methods have their downsides. Evaporust needs to be rinsed off with water, which can cause flash rust, and electrolysis can cause hydrogen embrittlement).
Thanks for some good tips and info!!
Another great video Ron. you done good on this one!
Thanks William
You should try to get a bench sand blaster. They have some really nice ones available. Don’t use sand . Use walnut shells . You will be surprised how it works.
I'm familiar with sand blasting and walnut shells. I dont have a large compressor available in the train room for that kind of tool. So far the ultrasonic is doing a fine job with everything Ive asked of it :-)
Fantastic job!!!
Thank you Stephen!
Lookin great Ron. Nice job
Thanks James
Great video Ron! By any chance do you do commissions? My late grandfather had a pre-war Lionel 259 E, which he gave to my dad. I’ve wanted to for a long time, have the train restored and give it to him for his birthday. Keep making awesome videos Ron!
Thanks Owen! Send me a email classicmodeltrains@aol.com
Great video Ron! Inspires me to work on getting my two AF steam locos going again! Also want to wish you and yours a happy new year!!
Thank you Bob and H.N.Y to you and yours as well. Hope you do get your 2 A.F. ladies tuned up and running again!