I started to get some great results with this, generating terry riley style organ lines that were a great starting point for something or at least a compelling layer. Very fast notes that were constantly on the move. I wish you could automate the settings for seeding to allow it to really go off.
The dream for many is to do music without the need for a common 9-5 if you can learn, and filter what sounds good from bad (based on your perspective) and speed up your work flow to make objectively good music (to yourself) and make a career out of it because others like it then I see no problem in slot machine production. They are all tools but the tools don’t make the music. The human does. The human curates what sounds good and gives it intention not the tools. AI art in any form will not take over the world in the sense that there is no human involved because it’s all about intention.
I’ve worked ableton since its earliest days. 12 crosses the line of making music and simply choosing how the computer makes it. Most importantly, production quality? Dystopian. They should work on editing capabilities and evolving warp mode to pitch audio without glitches. Stretch with fewer artifacts. Become lighter on the system and update the look. This doesn’t move me and hate to feel that way about such an incredible production tool.
Finally, Ableton concentrating on being a DAW. Not only that but this is Ableton LIVE, playing a DAW like a live instrument. Making original music faster than any other DAW, this is great. And managing to keep it simple.
Great video. Thanks for the walkthrough as 12's formal release is very near. Looking forward to giving it a shot. I'm interested to hear Meld's (and many others) AI impact in new tracks throughout the genres once 12 is fully released. Game changing stuff for sure. Not sure if it will be better or not yet. But hey it's fresh and we can release tracks now even faster. Hell maybe we should shoot for one new track release per day....nah one per hour (don't laugh...have a look at the track release rate ramping trends). I've stayed away from it but I've heard there are dedicated playlists on streaming services with AI-generated only tracks...sheez. It does though sadden me some seeing humanity slowly but surely being replaced with AI. You have to embrace it and capitalize I know I know, but the price is losing our ability to reason, imagine, and critically think. Embrace the change, capitalize on its benefits and move on, but humans will most definitely never be...well human for much longer. But I'm sure the younger generation will have their own definitions of human anyway so does it really even matter? MELD USERS UNITE!
Fully disagree. AI is there since before your were born, and you were using it without realising. And I doubt you consider yourself something else than human, no-thinker, etc... What really made stupid the whole humanity were Social Networks. But at the same time, if wisely used, them are super powerful.
It's fun seeing more AI in music design. Randomizing Midi notes and being able to shift allows creators to still feel completely in control while leveraging the power of algorithms. This was the right move forward for Ableton. While they are not revolutionary on their own, they definitely make a compelling argument for getting Ableton 12. Plus, you get all of the other sauce like roar, meld, etc on top of that.
i msorry but every professional I talked to complain on ableton 12 updates/ crashes and all those bugs and you recommend upgrading?? i tell people not to upgrade if they dont wanna lose work. abletonbecoming a toy plugin, as a 10 year user i m switching to bitwig or studio 1 after this guys. i m just done with toy upgrades for kids so they can make music without knowing anythingl ol for mixing editing, real life record making go find yourself another daw.
The presence of features you don't like, doesn't take anything away from you. Yeah Bitwig open ups a lot of modulation possibility's, but it is in no way more professional, i doubt that super modularity is straightening up workflows, it gives just more creative choices. Bitwig is the biggest toy at all, not in a negative sense of under-complexity, but as an endless playground for musicians and sound designers. Professionals exist i different areas, Instruments in general can be considered "toys" so there is nothing wrong with being a toy. If i want to batch edit large real life recordings, i use Pro Tools but if i want to be creative with Pro Tools and try to create electronic music in the box, it is just the wrong tool. Same goes for Bitwig and Live, neither of them excel in its capabilities of recording and editing a 50 people orchestra performance. The ability to choose the right tools in the right situations and to use them correctly because you know them, is what makes someone professional. If anyone loses work because of Live 12, it is the user which acted unprofessional, because he trusted in a beta version for critical work and forgot to backup and /or to bounce projects as audio.
@@gkunz3 Bitwig doesn't crash completely. It disables the audio engine/plugins, lets you find the problem and re-enable. Even if somehow it manages to completely crash, you can just restore your last session. Also much more efficient on CPU, and latest update lets it utilize your GPU so even more load off the processor.
It changes NOTHING ! All these random and AI tools will only make you a "slotmachine" producer. Pressing a knob untill you hit the jackpot. Well.., in the longterm you will lose as a musician..
I disagree. As a producer, you are required to make judgements and curate a track out millions of elements that may or may not work together. Just like a dJ on the macro level, your judgement is what decides the inclusion of an item. So why does it matter where it came from ?
People with music theory and knowledge will be getting more advantages than people who don't when we're talking about shuffle/random generators . Simply because they can easily filter out the "weird or boring" group of notes and know how to get more variations/nuances from what they have in mind . Yes 💯 you can do it manually if that's your way of doing things. But let's enjoy whatever tools which given to us
I get why people don't like the idea of this but it's just a different way of playing keys randomly on a keyboard in a scale. Sometimes alternative presentations of existing methods can generate inspiration.
plus by forcing yourself to work around harmony that you wouldn't instinctively default to based on your comfort zone, you expand your grasp of harmony and how to compose it
the midi fx exist as free m4l device since 2 years and is free no payment. Same UI same feature Ableton copy it and now sell it...🙄🤮 Sadly ppl get it..
I'm begging ya'll to learn MUSIC. Learn how to play an instrument. Get music in your soul. There's no world in which you would settle for this random, uninspired collection of notes if you have a true gift and skillset for music. It doesn't have to be this way.... I promise lol
I'm very "impressed" with the level indicators being moved from the right to the left... After so many years it sure must have been on top of their priorities.
It sounds like uh, like... randomly generated notes! 😂 On 'one of those days' you better turn off your computer and go for a walk. Or throw a full trash can down the stairs, record it, put it on Simpler, play the slices blindfolded and choose the nice pieces.
Frankly, these creation tools are great if you make cartoon music.. it seems a waste of time until you find something truly inspiring... then again some people start nodding their head to a click track.. and everything is Fire...
I think these tools are great, but I truly feel these are destroying talent...and or making it even harder for people that SHOULD be wearing the Producer/Writer/Composer/Engineer 🎩. Some Guy/Girl that wants to be the star without having to put in all the hard work gets to wear the 🎩
This has happened at every point of music technological advancement. You could say that the piano ruined composition for composers that came before and had to write music for all the monophonic instruments that preceded it separately, tape recorders made it easier for “fake” composers and songwriters, etc. Yes it makes it harder to impress with the previous technology, but good composers and songwriters will use the technology to their advantage and explore what wasn’t possible before, or they will find ways of creating in retaliation against those technological advances, neither of which are a bad thing IMO.
I think it requires even more talent and taste to make something that sounds cohesive (and arrange it properly) to make it a purposeful sounding composition. But yeah, the barrier to entry is definitely lower than ever. But that’s something I’m fully supporting.
Apologies if I sound rude, but this is very far away yet to provide any inspiration, unless you're producing experimental music. In another hand, there're better tools (some of them free) outside Ableton, giving better results, if you're looking for more catchy melodies. On top of it, too much AI, but still if the program crashes you don't have any clue about why 😂
This looks like a really helpful tool. Exactly like you said - to spark the inspiration when stuck. But to be honest, seeing the general advancements in the generative and assistance AI field, I sort of hoped that there will be more of that in the new Ableton. I was imagining a communication panel where you tell the software what you'd like to accomplish and it would bring up and set up various effects and instruments. However primitive it would be for the Ableton AI gen1. For example "make the bass more psytrance-like" or "set up a ping pong for the end of every fourth bar". And then you would be able to tweak the buttons until you are happy. Something like that.
Thanks for this. I have not played around with these much yet, in my Live 12 testing. I have sort of ADD'd into playing around with Bitwig 5 and modulation and that goes so deep, that I forget I need to also be testing Live 12. I have been tinking around so much with both of these, that I am hardly creating any actual tracks. I did dive back into arrangement a bit more, as I sort of always seem to try out a lot of stuff in Session view and not take it any further. Not sure if any of this makes sense, but inspiration is a definitely needed thing, as of late.
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The new midi function are really amazing and probably a game changer for me as well!
It’s so much fun… but also a distraction, to be honest 🙈
@@pickyourselfofficial This could well be ;)
@@pickyourselfofficial Yes, agreed. I'd rather see some serious coding gone to audio editing on tracks than "make music fast, without any effort" 🙃
I started to get some great results with this, generating terry riley style organ lines that were a great starting point for something or at least a compelling layer. Very fast notes that were constantly on the move. I wish you could automate the settings for seeding to allow it to really go off.
The dream for many is to do music without the need for a common 9-5 if you can learn, and filter what sounds good from bad (based on your perspective) and speed up your work flow to make objectively good music (to yourself) and make a career out of it because others like it then I see no problem in slot machine production. They are all tools but the tools don’t make the music. The human does. The human curates what sounds good and gives it intention not the tools. AI art in any form will not take over the world in the sense that there is no human involved because it’s all about intention.
100% with you on this :)
I’ve worked ableton since its earliest days. 12 crosses the line of making music and simply choosing how the computer makes it. Most importantly, production quality? Dystopian. They should work on editing capabilities and evolving warp mode to pitch audio without glitches. Stretch with fewer artifacts. Become lighter on the system and update the look. This doesn’t move me and hate to feel that way about such an incredible production tool.
It’s definitely not enjoyable to use, especially on a laptop.
I'd like to see tutorials about meld and roar
Will do! 💯🙌🏻
Finally, Ableton concentrating on being a DAW. Not only that but this is Ableton LIVE, playing a DAW like a live instrument. Making original music faster than any other DAW, this is great. And managing to keep it simple.
Wheres the Mixer Volume Line?.....Cant find it.
Great video. Thanks for the walkthrough as 12's formal release is very near. Looking forward to giving it a shot. I'm interested to hear Meld's (and many others) AI impact in new tracks throughout the genres once 12 is fully released. Game changing stuff for sure. Not sure if it will be better or not yet. But hey it's fresh and we can release tracks now even faster. Hell maybe we should shoot for one new track release per day....nah one per hour (don't laugh...have a look at the track release rate ramping trends). I've stayed away from it but I've heard there are dedicated playlists on streaming services with AI-generated only tracks...sheez. It does though sadden me some seeing humanity slowly but surely being replaced with AI. You have to embrace it and capitalize I know I know, but the price is losing our ability to reason, imagine, and critically think. Embrace the change, capitalize on its benefits and move on, but humans will most definitely never be...well human for much longer. But I'm sure the younger generation will have their own definitions of human anyway so does it really even matter? MELD USERS UNITE!
Awesome, happy you got something out of it! I’ll do a deep dive on those devices for sure :)
Fully disagree. AI is there since before your were born, and you were using it without realising. And I doubt you consider yourself something else than human, no-thinker, etc...
What really made stupid the whole humanity were Social Networks. But at the same time, if wisely used, them are super powerful.
Haha, track from beginning is turbo funny(in good way), i would like to listen full version :)
Haha nice!
Please do a deep down
I'd love to see an in-depth video on Roar! It's one of the effects I'm looking forward to most.
Please do a deep dive into Roar
Nice, will do!
@@pickyourselfofficial please make one from sound design aspect. Thx for the videos
New browser is a game changer. Biggest workflow killer.
I like the recombine feature
Nice... but is it really worthy of a new version though...?
Release Date?
maybe it's just the accent, but man you sound just like The Digital Life. Are you guys related?
Deep dive!!! 😀
Definitely 💯🚀
It's fun seeing more AI in music design. Randomizing Midi notes and being able to shift allows creators to still feel completely in control while leveraging the power of algorithms. This was the right move forward for Ableton. While they are not revolutionary on their own, they definitely make a compelling argument for getting Ableton 12. Plus, you get all of the other sauce like roar, meld, etc on top of that.
This is not ai just algorithms
Yep, awesome update so far in my opinion.
The random note generator has certainly changed the way many people make music today.
Cool
At 04:35, how did you get the floating window? 🥲
I was waiting for YT to serve me the midi chord pack Ad watching this. These are really nice new features, great for beginners.
Haha. „It’s literally just drag‘n drop“. Classic 🙈
i msorry but every professional I talked to complain on ableton 12 updates/ crashes and all those bugs and you recommend upgrading?? i tell people not to upgrade if they dont wanna lose work. abletonbecoming a toy plugin, as a 10 year user i m switching to bitwig or studio 1 after this guys. i m just done with toy upgrades for kids so they can make music without knowing anythingl ol for mixing editing, real life record making go find yourself another daw.
The presence of features you don't like, doesn't take anything away from you. Yeah Bitwig open ups a lot of modulation possibility's, but it is in no way more professional, i doubt that super modularity is straightening up workflows, it gives just more creative choices. Bitwig is the biggest toy at all, not in a negative sense of under-complexity, but as an endless playground for musicians and sound designers. Professionals exist i different areas, Instruments in general can be considered "toys" so there is nothing wrong with being a toy.
If i want to batch edit large real life recordings, i use Pro Tools but if i want to be creative with Pro Tools and try to create electronic music in the box, it is just the wrong tool. Same goes for Bitwig and Live, neither of them excel in its capabilities of recording and editing a 50 people orchestra performance. The ability to choose the right tools in the right situations and to use them correctly because you know them, is what makes someone professional. If anyone loses work because of Live 12, it is the user which acted unprofessional, because he trusted in a beta version for critical work and forgot to backup and /or to bounce projects as audio.
Can’t wait for you to have same experience - crashes etc with Bitwig’s next major release. Part of the software world.
@@gkunz3 Bitwig doesn't crash completely. It disables the audio engine/plugins, lets you find the problem and re-enable. Even if somehow it manages to completely crash, you can just restore your last session. Also much more efficient on CPU, and latest update lets it utilize your GPU so even more load off the processor.
Sound like kids piano not like production ready material
good melodies comes out from artist's minds. The melodies you show in this video are ridiculous, sorry. Anyway, thanks for your tutorial.
It changes NOTHING ! All these random and AI tools will only make you a "slotmachine" producer. Pressing a knob untill you hit the jackpot. Well.., in the longterm you will lose as a musician..
I disagree. As a producer, you are required to make judgements and curate a track out millions of elements that may or may not work together. Just like a dJ on the macro level, your judgement is what decides the inclusion of an item. So why does it matter where it came from ?
I’m with you on this, @klauskrzok9390 Thanks for sharing!
People with music theory and knowledge will be getting more advantages than people who don't when we're talking about shuffle/random generators .
Simply because they can easily filter out the "weird or boring" group of notes and know how to get more variations/nuances from what they have in mind .
Yes 💯 you can do it manually if that's your way of doing things.
But let's enjoy whatever tools which given to us
I get why people don't like the idea of this but it's just a different way of playing keys randomly on a keyboard in a scale. Sometimes alternative presentations of existing methods can generate inspiration.
plus by forcing yourself to work around harmony that you wouldn't instinctively default to based on your comfort zone, you expand your grasp of harmony and how to compose it
Ugh, Ableton Live and the infinite loop that goes over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
You haven’t sold it to me at all. Aweful random doodles IMO
the midi fx exist as free m4l device since 2 years and is free no payment.
Same UI same feature Ableton copy it and now sell it...🙄🤮 Sadly ppl get it..
I'm begging ya'll to learn MUSIC. Learn how to play an instrument. Get music in your soul. There's no world in which you would settle for this random, uninspired collection of notes if you have a true gift and skillset for music. It doesn't have to be this way.... I promise lol
I really like your candour @pickyourselfofficial
tipical youtuber over da top Stuff BUT TRUE😊👍
I'm very "impressed" with the level indicators being moved from the right to the left... After so many years it sure must have been on top of their priorities.
The master Key option is fantastic. That alone, makes me want to upgrade 😎
It sounds like uh, like... randomly generated notes! 😂 On 'one of those days' you better turn off your computer and go for a walk. Or throw a full trash can down the stairs, record it, put it on Simpler, play the slices blindfolded and choose the nice pieces.
Frankly, these creation tools are great if you make cartoon music.. it seems a waste of time until you find something truly inspiring... then again some people start nodding their head to a click track.. and everything is Fire...
I think these tools are great, but I truly feel these are destroying talent...and or making it even harder for people that SHOULD be wearing the Producer/Writer/Composer/Engineer 🎩. Some Guy/Girl that wants to be the star without having to put in all the hard work gets to wear the 🎩
I see where you are coming from; but why does someone need to put in “hard work” in order to do something to express themselves.
This has happened at every point of music technological advancement. You could say that the piano ruined composition for composers that came before and had to write music for all the monophonic instruments that preceded it separately, tape recorders made it easier for “fake” composers and songwriters, etc. Yes it makes it harder to impress with the previous technology, but good composers and songwriters will use the technology to their advantage and explore what wasn’t possible before, or they will find ways of creating in retaliation against those technological advances, neither of which are a bad thing IMO.
Good point!
I think it requires even more talent and taste to make something that sounds cohesive (and arrange it properly) to make it a purposeful sounding composition. But yeah, the barrier to entry is definitely lower than ever. But that’s something I’m fully supporting.
3:05 timestamp
The tools seem powerful maybe its the spunds but nothing in the demo sounded that good
Apologies if I sound rude, but this is very far away yet to provide any inspiration, unless you're producing experimental music. In another hand, there're better tools (some of them free) outside Ableton, giving better results, if you're looking for more catchy melodies.
On top of it, too much AI, but still if the program crashes you don't have any clue about why 😂
A3 to C6 is actually a pretty large melodic range. Most melodies rarely go beyond an octave.
Is there finally an internal MIDI channel routing? If not, what's the point of the upgrade? Even the inexpensive Reaper can do that!
can't wait the realease of it
Yeah, really looking forward!
3:24 reminds me of the band, The Knife. I wonder if they play in this scale.
So nice man. Thanks
Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it!
Yeah good video - would love to see a deep dive into Roar
This looks like a really helpful tool. Exactly like you said - to spark the inspiration when stuck.
But to be honest, seeing the general advancements in the generative and assistance AI field, I sort of hoped that there will be more of that in the new Ableton. I was imagining a communication panel where you tell the software what you'd like to accomplish and it would bring up and set up various effects and instruments. However primitive it would be for the Ableton AI gen1.
For example "make the bass more psytrance-like" or "set up a ping pong for the end of every fourth bar". And then you would be able to tweak the buttons until you are happy. Something like that.
Why? For what you’re asking you could as well skip Ableton and directly go to Suno or whtever which AI tool and order your song
Fantastic thanks for this video🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thanks for this. I have not played around with these much yet, in my Live 12 testing. I have sort of ADD'd into playing around with Bitwig 5 and modulation and that goes so deep, that I forget I need to also be testing Live 12. I have been tinking around so much with both of these, that I am hardly creating any actual tracks. I did dive back into arrangement a bit more, as I sort of always seem to try out a lot of stuff in Session view and not take it any further. Not sure if any of this makes sense, but inspiration is a definitely needed thing, as of late.
Yeah good point! It can also be a source of endless procrastination.
Sounds great, at beginning I thought of ice cream vans playing there funky tunes 😂 I’m hoovering on fence with 12 currently 11 live user.
Haha, nice one 🙌🏻😂
Will beta 12 keep getting updates like beta 11 , I am still using beta 11 and got 12 beta lol 😅
Yeah, surely but you will have to buy the upgrade if you want to keep using the beta 12.
Nice video, subscribed!!
gib deep dive plez ty!
Yessss, definitely gonna happen!
wtf, robots making music soon
It’s pretty impressive. But definitely still better WITH the human touch on it ;)
Erm have they fixed the crashes and random freezes yet?
Let’s hope for the best. My beta was very stable so far…
@@pickyourselfofficial cheers bro
No it’s the ai random crash generator feature
@@dystopia-0616 lmao
so bad 😂😂😂😂