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  • @Squirrel_Rides
    @Squirrel_Rides 2 місяці тому +96

    Tons of respect for Leadville, but the drop bar thing says more about that race than it does about mtb trends in general. This particular race is just more of a chunky doubletrack/dirt road kind of venue and not really a modern mountain bike track - the challenge is in the elevation and the flat out speed. I'm all for weird custom builds for a specific purpose, but I don't think we'll be seeing drops on WC XC bikes anytime soon ;)

    • @Andy_ATB
      @Andy_ATB 2 місяці тому +7

      Yeah, it's hardly technical, so drop bars probably make more sense.

    • @RandyVictory420
      @RandyVictory420 2 місяці тому +4

      I've never read such a spot-on assessment in my life!

    • @Cycle9568
      @Cycle9568 2 місяці тому +2

      Great video has been released of the race!

    • @dvs620
      @dvs620 2 місяці тому

      Seems closer to a gravel race than a XC track. The last thing I'd want to do is hit something chunky with such narrow bars. Too twitchy for me.

  • @_shreyash_anand
    @_shreyash_anand 2 місяці тому +23

    Okay. This video is a perfect example of all that is wrong with cycling IMO. Don't use 1x and MTB cassettes on the road. Don't use drop bars on an MTB. Don't do this, only this. People are just too snobby. Do what you want. And let others do what they want.

    • @rastislavstanik
      @rastislavstanik 28 днів тому +2

      yeah think they have a patent on how things should be done :D

  • @RandyVictory420
    @RandyVictory420 2 місяці тому +56

    I've done Leadville 3 times. Some of the long, straight sections were over 5 miles long. The third time I did it I used clip-ons, because if you get caught in a strong, endless headwind, it will DESTROY your time. If I had to do it again today, I'd put drop bars on my bike since clip-ons are banned.. The race is brutal enough without turning nature into an adversary. And yes, I'd be riding a full-suspension XC bike.
    I'm telling you, Martyn, that "Headwind from Hell" is something you never forget. It's nature's way of crushing your spirit. My Big Buckle is a survivor's badge of of insanity, obsession, blood, sweat & gears!

    • @martynashtonGMBN
      @martynashtonGMBN 2 місяці тому +3

      👏 👏 👏

    • @notpablo8369
      @notpablo8369 2 місяці тому

      Lets see martyn race leadville on his trike 💯💯💯

    • @mikeharris9153
      @mikeharris9153 2 місяці тому

      @RandyVictory420 what are clip ons?

    • @irfuel
      @irfuel 2 місяці тому

      @@mikeharris9153 tt bars

    • @spookyshark632
      @spookyshark632 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@mikeharris9153 Bar ends

  • @dcv9460
    @dcv9460 2 місяці тому +17

    Let the people choose and decide what handlebar they want on their bikes - regardless if it's cool or not. The important thing is they RIDE their bikes and enjoy it. Enough of these what's "IN" and what's 'ON TREND" BS 💯 Just ride the bike that works for you 😎

  • @TheGinger1
    @TheGinger1 2 місяці тому +67

    If Leadville started now, it would be billed as a hardcore gravel race. Gravel bikes are 90s mountain bikes and Leadville is a 90s mountain bike race.

    • @martynashtonGMBN
      @martynashtonGMBN 2 місяці тому +2

      Spot on.

    • @stuartaspinall7123
      @stuartaspinall7123 2 місяці тому

      Spot on there mate. 90’s style. Don’t think we really want to go back in technology do we ?

    • @edrcozonoking
      @edrcozonoking 2 місяці тому +1

      No...they are faster.

    • @badgers1975
      @badgers1975 2 місяці тому +1

      We'll be back to flex stems and Scott AT4's next

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  2 місяці тому +3

      Do you think we will start to see brands speccing bikes like this and calling them 'hardcore gravel'?

  • @JasonFoxLCB
    @JasonFoxLCB 2 місяці тому +16

    "So nearly nice" will be my new go-to when critiquing my underlings. Thanks, Martyn!

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  2 місяці тому +2

      Glad to be of service! 😅

    • @martynashtonGMBN
      @martynashtonGMBN 2 місяці тому +2

      Ignore me Dude. I don’t know what I’m talking about. 😊

  • @hille0552
    @hille0552 2 місяці тому +5

    Coming from a "gravel" perspective .. I could totaly understand why you would mount drop bars on your bike for a race like this! Its not only about the "aero thing". Its about the amount of positions you can choose with your hands in a marathon-race like the Leadville. I mean .. In the end everyone is trying to make their bikes as comfy and as fast as they can. And
    as long as the rules allow it .. Would I put drop bars on my Stumpjumper? Hell No! Do I like the look? Definetly not. The important thing is that everyone has fun and can get the best out of themselves and their material! Stay tuned, ride safe thanks for your content! 🤘

  • @ZOB4
    @ZOB4 2 місяці тому +16

    The question really is which is more important to you - looking cool, or winning races.

    • @stevenr5149
      @stevenr5149 2 місяці тому +1

      @@ZOB4 Red-pilled JFF rider here. When you leave that Matrix, another option appears-having maximum fun and relaxation. In this case-any bar will get the job done. :)

  • @galenkehler
    @galenkehler 2 місяці тому +28

    Johnny T was winning DH on drop bars 30 years ago 😂

    • @martynashtonGMBN
      @martynashtonGMBN 2 місяці тому +8

      But surely that’s where they belong. In the past with John T 😊

    • @DEECEE36
      @DEECEE36 2 місяці тому +4

      ...and there's a reason he quit using them.😊

    • @madtownangler
      @madtownangler 2 місяці тому +1

      He stopped road racing and went right to regular bars.

    • @janebeneezercabrera5364
      @janebeneezercabrera5364 12 днів тому +1

      Reslly cool how he did road racing, xc and downhill

  • @ltrtg13
    @ltrtg13 2 місяці тому +11

    I am surprised the Kona got a Super Nice. As the front brake caliper was just hanging in mid air.

    • @amc_sounds
      @amc_sounds 2 місяці тому

      It's got the special Z-link mod 🤭

  • @Fredkeyb
    @Fredkeyb 2 місяці тому +2

    I build two Pipedream Moxies for my wife and me and put drop bars and Schwalbe gravel tires on hers last year. The slack geo and low bb makes you feel like being in the bike with the drop bars, esp since you can lower the seatpost fully. It’s a blast for city riding and flat trail is much more exciting

  • @snowman22ism
    @snowman22ism 2 місяці тому

    I look forward every week to the dirt shed show. I love the banter with the hosts and it's just an overall good time.

  • @martinhagen2913
    @martinhagen2913 2 місяці тому +4

    Tomac did this in the early 90s, downhill even... nothing new under the sun there really, it works...

  • @highestsprings
    @highestsprings Місяць тому +4

    Drop bar MTB for chilled riding, any place, anywhere.

  • @hereticyogiexpectationsups4037
    @hereticyogiexpectationsups4037 2 місяці тому +8

    Keegan knew he'd be solo for a large part of the race. Aero counts.

  • @raheslop
    @raheslop 2 місяці тому +8

    I’m surprised there was no mention of Tomac

  • @JohnnyYuma405
    @JohnnyYuma405 Місяць тому

    I bought my first gravel bike a few months ago (been a MTB’er for 30 years) and have slowly blurred it into almost a mountain bike with 1x drivetrain, flat pedals, 50cm wide bars, 2.2” Race King tires. I’ve been riding it everywhere, even on singletrack.

  • @57boomer44
    @57boomer44 День тому

    I put drops on a univega mtb back in the mid 80s.
    Not for everyone but I loved it the most.

  • @carlp5351
    @carlp5351 2 місяці тому +10

    Rich you need to put this race on you list to race!!!

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  2 місяці тому +3

      We think Rich would be keen!

    • @richardpayne5176
      @richardpayne5176 2 місяці тому +7

      Keen as a bean 😬

    • @OwenBikeNerd
      @OwenBikeNerd 2 місяці тому

      @@richardpayne5176 Even I'm keen!

  • @floatinginfutility4020
    @floatinginfutility4020 2 місяці тому +1

    Not that I ever had ridden such a race, but as a fan of ultra endurance races like the Atlas Mountain Race, I also love drop bars on mountain bikes. Whatever works best for the given tracks!

  • @thombatty1950
    @thombatty1950 2 місяці тому +1

    I road the Tour Divide reace in 2013 on curly bars. Great for endurance riding where ther is nothing seriously technical, but I went back to flat bars afterward.

  • @spiritededucators
    @spiritededucators 2 місяці тому +1

    The rider position with the drop bar looks extremely similar to the 90’s mountain bike rider position when we cut our bars down narrow with small bar ends to stay low, narrow and tucked in.
    Everything comes around 👍🏻

  • @Barendol
    @Barendol 2 місяці тому +12

    Drop bar MTBs are the future of touring/adventure bikes. It's good for bumpy non-technical terrain.

    • @LaurentiusTriarius
      @LaurentiusTriarius 2 місяці тому

      Not that good for anatomical comfort and weeklong rides tho
      What? 😂

    • @diviscadilek1764
      @diviscadilek1764 2 місяці тому +4

      @@LaurentiusTriariusI love my drop bar bike for long distance riding. Drop bar bikes tend to be more comfortable than traditional flat bars for long distance riding.

  • @wayneclement7201
    @wayneclement7201 Місяць тому +1

    I love the drop bar trend, conveyed a flat bar hardtail hybrid to drops, best thing I did!

  • @dmytrotkachov6859
    @dmytrotkachov6859 17 днів тому

    I have a 650B hardtail with a gravel drivetrain and an 80mm airfork. And I really love this bike. It is the most versatile bike I have ever owned. You get the comfort of suspension combined with the speed of drop bars, sort of like a "Jack of all trades, master of none" bike. It loses to gravel bike on smooth tracks but wins vs MTB, but the surface is stretchy straight handlebars are just better. I don't see it being superior to an MTB on a cross-country track, but a drop bar MTB is an excellent city bike that you can send almost anywhere.

  • @Piplodocus
    @Piplodocus Місяць тому +1

    The great thing about trends is you don't have to follow them if you don't want to. And if you're not following other peoples trends, then good for you if you want to do something me, or anyone else, doesn't like (like putting drop bars on your MTB for a specific race you think they'd suit).

  • @andrewking1122
    @andrewking1122 2 місяці тому +12

    Drop bars, flat bars, riser bars, it doesn’t matter to me what bars you use. Just don’t expect me to always follow the latest fads, I ride what works for me.

  • @Tre7we88
    @Tre7we88 2 місяці тому +2

    Comments section is weird. Bars are the tip off the iceberg. Keegan and co are pushing the boundaries of the sport, dialling in the right tools for the job. End off. Keegan has been trying to do this for 3 years… the breakthrough is the SRAM AXS tech that enables him, Finsty and co, to deliver the road shifters on gravel bars. Also overlooked is the tyre choice… gravel rear tyres! The size of gears they’re pushing! The bars are just the start of a new direction in bike development. Tomes did do this years ago… thankfully Keegan and co are back on the evolution trail again!

  • @colin1974
    @colin1974 2 місяці тому

    I have a designed for drops, rigid MTB, best bike I own by far. So versatile and fun - they are the future of uk multi surface riding.

  • @andysmallman7843
    @andysmallman7843 2 місяці тому +3

    John Tomac made drop bars and mountain biking cool back in the day. This is just old stuff coming back again. Was cool then, still cool now, but you need to be fast as f…!

  • @johnsonjae
    @johnsonjae 2 місяці тому

    I would definitely put Drop bars on my MTB. Although, for anything technicallly, I kinda want my wider bar. So I guess, I would use 580-600mm Drop bars given the current market, but I really want 780mm bars with drops engineered at 420mm for flatter sections.

  • @stevenrex7571
    @stevenrex7571 2 місяці тому

    Cheers for showing my Stinky, glad you liked it Martyn 😂🤣

  • @bradholmes4
    @bradholmes4 2 місяці тому

    Don't want to take any credit but i was on top of making you guys take a look at the Leadville 100 when i was going to college there in 17/18. One of my old apartment buildings is in the video. Leadville is a great place to visit. It has some better trails on the east side of town along with the ones on the Colorado Mountain College Property. But i feel like anyone who is looking to visit I'd say that its worth a visit for 48 hours. Use it as a stop to get from Summit County (Copper, Brek, Keystone) and use it to get to Aspen or Salida.

  • @Coover90210
    @Coover90210 2 місяці тому +1

    I used to have a specialized RockCombo! (I think that's what it was called.) Rigid , 26" as I recall, drops ...it was the worst of all worlds. I eventually gave it flat bars. Gosh I appreciate modern mtbs!

  • @rident
    @rident 2 місяці тому +7

    Martyn, flared drop bars on MTB look sick. A set of Ritchey VentureMax or On-One Midge bars on a light MTB is drool inducing! You should toss a set on the random tandem.

  • @bicifamily
    @bicifamily 2 місяці тому

    Ashton face was hilarious during the drop bars description omg
    Genius 😂😂😂😂

  • @logankfritz
    @logankfritz 28 днів тому

    As long as they are wide drop bars, and you don't have any issues with reaching your brakes from a comfortable position on both the tops and the drops, what's the harm?!
    It absolutely depends on what you're doing, but Surly's Grappler is a perfect example of how this can be done correctly, and the types of activities recommended for this type of bike build.
    The Leadville 100 may not be a "gravel" race, but it's certainly not a downhill race! Go take a look at some of the courses on races that are advertised as Gravel races, and some of them are surprisingly similar to the Leadville 100!
    The hardest thing about all these gravel races and XC MTB races is that it's very difficult to determine the optimum bike set up for a race without closely reviewing the race profile, road/trail conditions, and even the weather conditions!

  • @michaelfleming4015
    @michaelfleming4015 2 місяці тому

    Leadville is so long that benefits of various hand and body positions given by curly bars are obviously a plus. If I were riding it I’d use a gravel bike. All my bikes have dropper posts so the borders are completely blurred. I have a beautiful Andante hard tail, but I also ride green and blue trails on my Specialized Diverge gravel bike. My Conondale Topstone is actually my “road” bike with 700 x 30 Pirellis. All are tubeless also.

  • @miffmaff1
    @miffmaff1 2 місяці тому +1

    Yesterday i injured my elbow while riding my bike, so i'll be recovering for the next couple of weeks. It happened on a trail i've never ridden before and i might went into a corner with a little too much risk. I'm still more of a beginner rider, do you have any advice on how get back on track? Should i go straight to the same trail and ride it again, maybe a little more carefuly, or should i maybe get some elbow protection and go back to easier trails, and slowly work my way back to more difficult ones?

  • @guitarlessonsnow3431
    @guitarlessonsnow3431 2 місяці тому +1

    Drop bars on road bikes only for me. I don’t have an opinion on gravel bikes ‘cause I’ve never ridden one. I ride “gravel” and fire roads on my flat bar XC bike just fine. Btw Kona Stinkys and Coilers are great. Still have my ‘07 Coiler with all new parts, dropper, 1x etc.

  • @jmo2752
    @jmo2752 2 місяці тому +8

    Is the reason they are using drop bars because you're not allowed to use bar-ends any more? - this way they get the weight-forward positioning bar-ends gave you, but without the potential injury in a crash (which was presumably the reason the UCI banned them from MTB competition?)

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  2 місяці тому +2

      We're not sure if the race uses the UCI rulebook if we're honest!

    • @ennokanScottwalker
      @ennokanScottwalker 2 місяці тому +1

      Even with the UCI rulebook in place, inner bar ends are banned but traditional bar ends are still authorized if riders do need an alternate hand position.
      And I don´t think the race uses the UCI rulebook where road style drop bars have long been banned by the UCI but in 2022 there was the new addition to Regulation 4.1.040, inner bar ends are banned too.

    • @username34159265
      @username34159265 2 місяці тому

      I don't think that's presumable, I think that just as the UCI road regulations that basically boil down to "a bike that looks like what the board collectively think of as a bike, like what Eddy Merckx rode back in the[my] golden era", MTB rules boil down to something that would look familiar to Fischer and Ritchey. They'll use any excuse they can, but each will turn them back in that direction. If they found out that circular steering wheels or recumbents were safer, they'd find a different reason to stay closer to flat-bar bikes.

  • @philgurnett9212
    @philgurnett9212 26 днів тому

    Back in the day, we cut back XC bars to save weight, get more ‘aero’ and generally cause we could!
    You ride the bike you have or, in the pros case, the bike you need. Aesthetics comes second to performance now

  • @wotyla13
    @wotyla13 2 місяці тому

    I've considered using curly bars on my trail bike before, but havent gone as far as to actually do it 😂 my latest experiment was using bar horns pointed downwards which is almost like having a drop bar. Not bad for climbing and long straights 😅

  • @romanb3309
    @romanb3309 2 місяці тому

    A good looking lightweight xc frameset with a moderate reach with wider dropbar and shorter stem - that's what I really need for my rides.

  • @OverMotoren
    @OverMotoren 2 місяці тому +2

    You'd still be rooting for a mtb in the Tour de France. It's a bit of slamming drops for the heck of it.. take it easy guys, they're all bikes in the end. And your colleagues are just a wall away. Both your paychecks come from the same place too.

  • @arielfisher7
    @arielfisher7 2 місяці тому

    yes! that's my current plan on my old grand canyon hard tail

  • @junka1975
    @junka1975 2 місяці тому

    Rich just provided us with the smoothest stunt mug catch yet, much to the relief of Martyn who was about to wear it if it got by. I am telling you England cricket selectors, Rich in the field would definitely be a big advantage.

  • @TeeSCee
    @TeeSCee 2 місяці тому

    I think you should replace broken, bent, shady components to ensure rider safety ;)
    With that said...the Surley Corner Bar does seem like a cross dressing flat bar.
    Could you just say bar ends are cool again, so we can have others solutions for long epic riders.
    The power is in your hands GMBN....

  • @chrishomel9558
    @chrishomel9558 29 днів тому

    For me, it's also about comfort. I'm currently going from Gravel to Mountain. I haven't been on a mountain bike in years and honestly I'm more comfortable on my gravel, even on steep, loose single track. I feel like drop bars on my mountain bike would be a great mod. There is a place for it, and yes it still is a mountain bike. I will stick with the flat bars because I know I will get used to it, and don't want to go through the hassle of modifying it. All that said, I think we get caught up in what our tribe deems taboo or not. C-mon, let's just ride bikes and make the experience as enjoyable as possible, given each individual rider.

  • @krehme
    @krehme 2 місяці тому

    I’ve done some of the local trails on my gravel bike and the drop bars were just not enjoyable when it got tight and twisty. Flat bars are my preference in the woods.

  • @whitebear96
    @whitebear96 2 місяці тому

    Few years back I built a roadbike for winter training and put straight bars on it with mtb brakes and shifter. It was funny how everyone, especially roadies looked at it. Guess it was travesty for them as it is curlies for us 😁 but as a short person, the dropbars just dont feel comfortable for me, so i did it for the comfort, and wider bars just handle better.
    Racers have to exploit every tech they can get their hands on, if they see gain in drops on specific race, then it is understandable they would use them.

  • @jackt1400
    @jackt1400 2 місяці тому

    I just had my hardtail converted to 700c wheeis with 35c gravel tyres, running SRAM XPLR though...

  • @koosb8162
    @koosb8162 2 місяці тому

    That Kona's front brake caliper is dangling in the wind. Super choice if you don't need to brake.

  • @bryantahrenholtz7464
    @bryantahrenholtz7464 2 місяці тому +1

    #captioncontest “Hey guys. My mom said I could come play for five minutes, but only if I wore my helmet.”

  • @redbomberr4594
    @redbomberr4594 2 місяці тому

    Leadville 100 is a gnarly road race. If I was interested, like many other riders in punchin' out the miles, cadence and watching my power output it would be fun and I see the benefit in drop bars. But I'm not and it's not fun, I leave the sweat for the gym and ride for the smiles.

  • @throughthewindow4894
    @throughthewindow4894 2 місяці тому

    I'd say no you don't need to go for trends, but I get it. I like people watching while on the trail, and I have seen all the sorts of bikes on paved and gravel trails.

  • @TheFlyingDuckTheory
    @TheFlyingDuckTheory 2 місяці тому

    As a hobbyist mtb-er, outright performance isn't my goal so I have gone for control over speed and fitted a set of Renthal motoX bars to my Giant ATX970. Curly bars would destroy my lower back in very short order.

  • @andymonis5368
    @andymonis5368 Місяць тому

    Kona (looks wise) peaked for me with the 1991 gold cinder cone.

  • @madtownangler
    @madtownangler 2 місяці тому +1

    I remember Jon Tomac was doing this when I first rode a mountain bike. That didn't last long.

  • @cheechmcduck7013
    @cheechmcduck7013 2 місяці тому

    Hey..what's wrong with a Kona..I have a dawg primo. Bought new in 2004 and I still love it to this day 🙂. If I knew how to send in a picture I would

  • @ElveZ83
    @ElveZ83 2 місяці тому

    Almost exactly 25 years ago i was getting weird looks for my Ritchey 695mm, 30mm riser bars on my freeride winora/haibike haiend2. Today i am ordinary with 780mm, 30mm risers. 🤷🏼‍♂️
    Guess i was sporting endiro when it was just a motorbike thing.

  • @theagk19781
    @theagk19781 2 місяці тому

    Having come from road riding , (i gave up road bikes in the late 90s. ) Now days I wouldn't put drop bars on a road bike. For longer rides it's flat bars and bar-ends.

  • @thelanehunterdevon1664
    @thelanehunterdevon1664 2 місяці тому

    Sad really as people were like this with ebikes. Bir if you have been around ling enough there was hate for full suspension, disk brakes, dropper posts, bigger wheels and even frame materials.

  • @mizanurabu-ramadan7430
    @mizanurabu-ramadan7430 2 місяці тому

    oh that colourway on the YT industries bike is just...catching!

  • @jamesFong
    @jamesFong Місяць тому

    I’m an OG mountain bike racer from the 90’s and we used to ride with 480mm bars. If the concern is aero just cut the bars down. There’s no need to play roadie on a mountain bike.

  • @Yahs232
    @Yahs232 Місяць тому +1

    I could see gravel width drop bars on xc bikes tbh

  • @ctrlplay7867
    @ctrlplay7867 2 місяці тому

    I dunno if I’d go curly but I’d definitely try an altbar

  • @Shawn-in-da-Canyon
    @Shawn-in-da-Canyon 2 місяці тому

    I’d love to build me a light FS bike with drops for road/gravel. I wish someone made an Ebike like that. A Trek E-Caliber with a TQ motor, drops and a 28 mph limit would be fun!

  • @VFXBishop
    @VFXBishop 2 місяці тому

    I've wanted drop bars on my XC bike, but having to go electronic to make that happen has been the big hangup if I want to stay indexed.

  • @MsTatakai
    @MsTatakai 2 місяці тому

    I kinda like it ... i don't see me riding with flat bars but i kinda like the idea... and looks cool !

    • @steveptasznik6147
      @steveptasznik6147 2 місяці тому

      Please don't. You are the only one who thinks that.

  • @notme-kc3pq
    @notme-kc3pq 2 місяці тому

    This is just the opposite of what I did in the 70s which was put cowhorn handlebars on my racer so I could ride in the woods and do wheelies

  • @SonnyDarvishzadeh
    @SonnyDarvishzadeh 2 місяці тому

    Maybe they're a new trend around day-long XC races, but they've been around for ultra-endurance races. Lael Wilcox has been doing it for a few years now.

  • @Emtbtoday
    @Emtbtoday 2 місяці тому +1

    Was only this morning road cc showing people on road and gravel bikes cutting the drop bars off lol they are saying it now feels perfect!😂 well it would it's a near normal bar now

  • @tedwensing1842
    @tedwensing1842 2 місяці тому

    Like to try the curl up bars, not as hard on the old back.

  • @ken46120
    @ken46120 2 місяці тому

    In the early days I considered drops but ran flats for many years. I’m into high rise bars now. I don’t race.

  • @seano218
    @seano218 2 місяці тому +3

    Here we go, drop bars on mullets with electronic shifting... all the trickle down tech from racers, which is unnecessary for the large majority of regular riders.
    Btw, 650B is not "old school", it's rider's preference.

  • @emmachampion7387
    @emmachampion7387 2 місяці тому

    Drop bars on a road bike: yes, drop bars on a gravel bike: okay, drop bars on a mtb: no! …although they do make amusing GMBN videos from time to time!

  • @arnold6691
    @arnold6691 2 місяці тому

    You're missing Brandon Semenuk....he's the frreeride GOAT...super smooth 👌

  • @118pickle
    @118pickle 2 місяці тому +1

    Iv already flipped my drop bars upside down so there drop riser bars keep ahead of the curve 😉

    • @martynashtonGMBN
      @martynashtonGMBN 2 місяці тому +2

      Trail blazing 🔥

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  2 місяці тому +1

      Or behind/ slightly on top of the curve as it were? 🧐

  • @craighenry7915
    @craighenry7915 2 місяці тому

    John tomac in the 90's with road bars was the first for XC racing.

  • @jokermtb
    @jokermtb 2 місяці тому

    Used to ride a Kona Jake the Snake, w/ a super wide drop bar (46), w/ fat 42c wide tires in the early 2000's, essentially a gravel bike before gravel bikes. Had top bar 'frog legs' style auxilary brake levers so you could handle the bike using the upper handlebar (like a mtb), instead of the awkward drops (which suck for off road handling). It was definitely more aero, but for mountain biking, it wasn't great, and ultimately I just stopped with that foolishness.

  • @ianwigmore2675
    @ianwigmore2675 2 місяці тому

    Curly, flat, riser, one piece lycra suits! anything to win guys! Whatever they need to do short of cheating! they'll have aerobars next (if allowed). Great shows, thank you, keep it up!

  • @_Justinriceism_
    @_Justinriceism_ 2 місяці тому

    Sometimes weird bikes are cool bikes. I'm a believer in the right tool for the job and don't like always grouping things into categories.

  • @FlyAgaric-Mtb
    @FlyAgaric-Mtb 2 місяці тому +1

    Caption contest: when you call in sick to go mountain biking and you see your boss on the trail!

  • @fuzzi1002
    @fuzzi1002 25 днів тому

    I like my road bike with droper, my cyclocrosser with droper....
    But a fast downhill with droper....
    It is to scary for me, I want better control 😊

  • @mattgies
    @mattgies 2 місяці тому

    That Kona Stinky--first Super Nice for a bike with its front brake caliper dangling in the breeze?

  • @TheBrick2
    @TheBrick2 2 дні тому

    Even worse than the drop bars is the road pedals. I nearly though up with that one. When I experimented as a youth (don't judge) I tried road biking but found mtb clipless with stiff shoes to be just as good with the advantage of being able to walk without looking like you shat yourself.

  • @lilmorg87
    @lilmorg87 2 місяці тому

    The front brakes on that last Kona weren't even connected, just dangling by the tire lmao

  • @krisjones74
    @krisjones74 2 місяці тому

    Trying to stay in the now... I just put drop bars and slammed the stem on my DH bike, and put 36"wide risers on my time trial bike.

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  2 місяці тому +1

      Gotta keep em guessing!

  • @rule3036
    @rule3036 2 місяці тому

    How many roadies actualy use the drops except when flat out sprinting or on a smooth flat getting aero ? Very few from what I see. Even for XC waste of time...bar ends better for off road in my experience.

  • @coreytaylor9940
    @coreytaylor9940 2 місяці тому

    I find this video so ironic because I just bought a gravel bike two weeks ago and I'm considering putting MTB bars and shifters/brakes on it. The drop bars are so uncomfortable

  • @Grumpdad
    @Grumpdad 2 місяці тому +1

    Drop Bars? Think John Tomac! Funny how you never see drop bars on Moto Cross, Enduro or Trials Motor Cycles.

  • @KP-ol3tc
    @KP-ol3tc 2 місяці тому +6

    Lachlan was 4th place, after a puncture, with the flatties and this is not to mention him winning Unbound with the xc bike as well. Keegan is just Keegan lol

    • @yutiros5174
      @yutiros5174 2 місяці тому +1

      @@KP-ol3tc He won unbound on a supersix SE though, not an XC bike

    • @KP-ol3tc
      @KP-ol3tc 2 місяці тому

      @@yutiros5174 hahah no clue how I mixed that up! 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @MarmiteFerret
      @MarmiteFerret 2 місяці тому +1

      Lachy was close to keegan last year using some insane inverted stem as well. His bike is certainly not a traditional mtb build but obviously works pretty well for him.

  • @feedbackzaloop
    @feedbackzaloop 2 місяці тому

    That fork stand hack would defintely be a bodge with reverse arch Fox

  • @pituife
    @pituife 2 місяці тому

    If there are no trails to get the benefit of a wide bar, than having an aero position is much better. If UCI allowed you would probably see more races using drops

  • @ramondelaat5291
    @ramondelaat5291 2 місяці тому

    Hey guys. I want to ask you guys how I can suggest a theme. My theme would be. What is the highest gradient a mountain biker or an E mountain biker can climb?

  • @hollakeef
    @hollakeef 2 місяці тому +1

    #captioncontest Martyn we have a winner, throw me the mug.

  • @paultillsley8777
    @paultillsley8777 2 місяці тому

    With trend in drop bars surely obvious solution is bringing back bar ends!

  • @stevehalleym
    @stevehalleym 2 місяці тому

    I’m building a drop bar MTB. Makes it such a fun experience

    • @irfuel
      @irfuel 2 місяці тому

      I just finished mine. For gravel++ it's the best there is. 2 things you don't want to do with it: long descents (less brake control + arm pump) and drops (your hands are too far forward on the hoods). For just blasting over uneven terrain it's so much better than a gravel bike + the position helps a lot in the wind compared to a straight bar MTB. I used to run inner bar-ends on my MTB, but it's absolutely not sufficient to get a decent aero position (and I ran a -17 degree stem already). You need more reach.

  • @ChrisJohnson-ld3wq
    @ChrisJohnson-ld3wq 2 місяці тому

    Caption competition: What's in my hand? NoTHInG