I went from a 1050ti to a 6gb 2060 then I considered buying a 3000 series when they came out, then the 4000, but now I think I'll just wait the 5000 series lol I say to my self all the time that I'll buy the next gen but never actually do when I realize my 2060 is doing just fine.. These new 4000 series just seem meh to me.. The only thing that peaked my interest was the power consumption but other than that, meh.
Would the fact that the 7900 XTX competes favorably with the 4080, plus the "extra 8gb of vram" coupled with a probable price drop make it a better value over the 4080 Super even though there's a performance increase and significant price drop? Can't wait for a 7900 XTX vs 4080 Super benchmark!
who cares for this vram :D most of games take max 11-13 gb vram on 4K so we are fine with 16gb for the next 5+ years for sure.basicly most of gamers swap cards after 2-3 gen!
definitely if you don't use ray tracing and are sub 4k if you are using upscaling tho nvidia upscaling looks so much better than amd that you can get more out of an nvidia card via dlss than you can from amd using FSR
So I would say the majority of my time spent on the computer are productivity/desgin applications like after effects,blender,unity,unreal,photoshop,etc. with that said I do plan on getting a 4080 super when I upgrade. I’ve been on my 5700xt since 2020 and when it comes to rendering time specifically with blender it takes forever to render animations in cycles. Compared to the numbers I’ve seen in Nvidia cards, Nvidia crushes on that end. If I wasn’t doing anything other than gaming I’d probably skip out on Nvidia entirely and favored team red a little longer. Unfortunately for me as a designer my time matters and team green can save me a lot of time on rendering. Any other creatives out there similar to me please I’d like to talk abt this more!
Seems a lot of us were ready to get the 7900xtx just before 4080s announcement. I would really like to see comparison vids and get advice on which to get. Such a tough decision now! Also, a comparison of the two cards with an AMD 7800x3d CPU, since pairing the xtx with the x3d gives a boost.
I hate to say this about NVidia. But many of us gamers are just plain sick and tired of their pricing and marketing games and this name structure is just insane too. To make matter worse for them the power connector is still an issue and NVidia never once apologized for their screwup on their part. They just sold a bad product and left the consumer hanging and blame them for their own mistake. NVidia is done in my book and they can go just suck wind at this point for all I care. Now AMD on the other hand is looking better and better with each new product coming out and they are beating NVidia hand over fist in pricing and product quality. Intel's GPU even looks better then NVidia. NVidia need to focus more on cleaning up their act and if I was a stockholder with them. I would demand their CEO to be fired.
That's exactly why I won't buy anymore green puke stuff after almost 20 years of nvidia. I'm waiting to get xtx 7900 Tuff !!!! it is difficult for me to don't press the "Buy" button for that great 24 Gb card but right now in Europe it's at +- 1100 euros so soon we'll have better prices hopefully, more than ready to jump into RED team ! So far my Strix 3070 Ti still manages fine ;)
I never thought of that… What the hell are retailers going to do. they can’t sell them for $200+ dollars less and lose their profit margin. But at the same time, people won’t buy them over the super at the same price point. I’ve been waiting for the 4080 super and the 999 price and added performance, although still pricey was more comfortable for me. A solid discount on the non-supers could sway me in that direction. But let’s be real here 😂
yes, i watch amazon ,newegg and others and they have tons of unsolded rtx 4080 and 4070/ti at high prices especially rtx 4080 so i really doubt they will cut prices alot of 4080 because its easier to raise prices of 4080super and 999$ would probably be low amount on Nvidia sites untill scalpers dont buy it @@worldwide714
RTX 4000 series = Good performance, great features, TERRIBLE VALUE RTX 4000 Super line up = Very good performance, great features, BAD VALUE The issue has been the pricing. The performance R&D focus needs to go in favour of creating these chips/cards at decent pricing. Honestly a RTX 5070 16GB for $399 without any performance gains over the 4070 would still be a HUGE win.
@@ThePalePatriot Overclock the 2070 to the max. Use FSR 3 Mods and DLSS whereever possible and wait for the RTX 5000 and Battlemage. With any luck, we will see a lot more competition and better pricing. Especially for the 4000 cards.
Not to worry. I'm not buying ANY RTX 4000 cards even if they were reasonably priced give that people are still finding new things wrong with the 12VHPWR connector. And to be honest, I doubt AMD will lower the price on the 7900XTX enough to make me want to upgrade my existing card.
@@TyTan_ But this is what will happen. Nvidia don't want another 30 series fiasco with tons of GPU in stock. They want 40 series gone when 50 series launch later this year.
I just sold my 6950xt to be able to purchase the 4080 super. I had been planning to buy the 7900xtx. Ready to get a new monitor and use dlss and ray tracing for a change.
US - Bestbuy price as of 2024/01/19 : Asus Tuff 4080 Super, NON OC - $1199 (Yes non OC version, and even the OC one is a ripoff since u can just OC urself) Asus ROG Strix OC 4080 super - $1550... Yeah .... MSI Ventus, Gigabyte aero/gaming are between $999 to $1050 tho. I suspect those cards near MSRP will sell out due to not many of them (Like 2 per store). There was a Zotac 4080 black friday sale for $980, but it's a Zotac so ...). Most of the cards are $1100 + , with Asus charging the usual Asus tax. There was a Zotac 4080 black friday sale for $980, but it's a Zotac so ...
dont buy it yet?' where the fck you could buy super cards anyway?? and you think that Amazon,Newegg ,microcenter and all others will throw or cutt on half prices of non super cards which have pretty high prices now
Take solace .. you still have a wicked good card, strix no less .. I'm using Canadian money, which dropped ~23% against USD this year, and I just cant go over $800 CAD, money is tough to come by. I use a 10 year old card but I need a 40 series cuz electricity is expensive. I feel you though.
@@noobovsky420 well duhhhh clearly I’m not running to market to grab one. But that’s NOT the point. It was to eliminate stupid releases like this. They essentially release the same product 3 times and that’s not fair to consumers. The base series, the super series and the ti series when in reality they could have released the best of each of those one time and kept prices down while also actually putting to market products consumers want as opposed to generating f.o.m.o with batch releases and calling it and upgrade cycle. They know as soon as they release the very first card which silicon is the best. Long story short. Don’t make monkeys out of your customer base
What you feel they should be is not what they are, the world don't revolve around your opinion, I agree expensively but focus on God not prices of stuff.
rtx 4070 ti super nice upgrade good loking card price okay rtx 4080 super okay upgrade but need 20gb vram because of 4k gaming gpu overal normal looking rtx 4070 super nice upgrade 20% cores litle faster but 12gb vram is not greatest in 2024 but overally okay looking card
AMd is trash lol. well with graphic cards. They are so far behind with hardware and especially software. thats the reason amd has to be more price to performance based. Basically if u are really poor u go with intel graphic cards and if u are doing okay but dont have too much cash u go with amd and if you got that money coming in then nvidia is the go too.
I don't know who on earth would spend $1000 on a 80 series card. When ray tracing is in such infancy. By the time it's remotely normalized these cards will be outdated. All new cards now are still over-inflated due to the pandemic and supply chain issues, we are past this. If you had a card back then you paid more just to have a card, those are not normal prices and they cannot be used to justify new prices.. AMD for the win...with all the V ram, I could care less. If I have 160 FPS over 145 at 1440P if a Nvidia card offers 5% more.
I was just researching part for building my first PC ever and was going to get the 7900XTX when I saw the 4080 Super announcement. I dont really know a whole lot about this sort of this so I am not sure which to go with.
Same predicament. Literally wait till the end of the month to get the xtx, then the announcement dropped. Now I don't know. I feel this was very deliberate timing on nvidias part but I am very interested in seeing amd's response
I still am going to go with the 4080 SUPER. I was convinced from the 4070ti SUPER. Even that GPU for this same reason I about to say. If me or anyone spends $1k US on GPU (or close enough to), why not get the GPU with all the features? Now, if it were a $300, that person may be more budget oriented, but $1k US??? Nah! I guess it more depends on what type of Gamer you are. I mean, I'm not mad at anybody getting an XTX for (whatever price) with 4080 raster either. I have an all AMD build, so I have no bias. Which is another reason I'm considering it. I'm not going to not buy it for fear of fanboyism or cause a group of strangers feels someway about the brand. Give me the fidelity, stability & speed I want in my games and this should. Good video though!
why? because maybe u dont use them. 2. who asked you to motivate your spendings man ? if you gonna buy 4080 super and feel guilty about it maybe go for xtx :))
If you are interested in going on UA-cam and talking about how happy you are, go with the XTX. If you are looking to seriously play games with high resolution, frame rate, and the latest and greatest technologies, go with the Nvidia. Look, there's a reason AMD barely has broken the Steam charts for GPU sales yet has 50x the fanboys on YT. You already know what they are going to tell you "get the XTX". If people haven't picked up on the pattern of every video that there are AMD salesman deployed broadly throughout all of YT, perhaps you should start paying attention and realizing this is going to have to be a personal decision you make based on your own research and choice with how to spend your own money. Do not expect any real advice on YT, the bias is real and it is heavily weighted toward AMD. You already know all of this and made the comment anyway.
I literally OC and UV my 7900XTX it's going to be faster than the 4080 Super the 4090 is only 14 percent faster in 1440P this isn't gonna do shit lol especially with AFMF out right now being used with FSR Nvidia does not stand a chance
If you can find a 4080 or 4080 super for $1,000.00 buy it as fast as possible hahaha. Idk what this clown is talking about you can’t lose though the chance of these cards being available at msrp ever is slim to none and most likely will be at $1200 like the original 4080 …. If you don’t want a high end gpu or can’t afford one then this isn’t for you buy a used 30 series there are plenty of 3080 floating around for $400 or less … seriously for most PC gamers that is as much performance as you will need for prob the next 5 years and only thing you won’t have is the dlss frame gen option … But with mining starting to even our profit wise again lately 4080s could very possibly be a hard to get again at msrp like the last 4 years of GPU market.
I don't think PC gamers actually play games. They just obsess about GPU specs all day and analyse benchmarks.
Guilty here
Lol
sad but true
I went from a 1050ti to a 6gb 2060 then I considered buying a 3000 series when they came out, then the 4000, but now I think I'll just wait the 5000 series lol I say to my self all the time that I'll buy the next gen but never actually do when I realize my 2060 is doing just fine.. These new 4000 series just seem meh to me.. The only thing that peaked my interest was the power consumption but other than that, meh.
@@RilezGamer that's sexy
Would the fact that the 7900 XTX competes favorably with the 4080, plus the "extra 8gb of vram" coupled with a probable price drop make it a better value over the 4080 Super even though there's a performance increase and significant price drop? Can't wait for a 7900 XTX vs 4080 Super benchmark!
who cares for this vram :D most of games take max 11-13 gb vram on 4K so we are fine with 16gb for the next 5+ years for sure.basicly most of gamers swap cards after 2-3 gen!
i want that raytracing tho
definitely if you don't use ray tracing and are sub 4k
if you are using upscaling tho
nvidia upscaling looks so much better than amd that you can get more out of an nvidia card via dlss than you can from amd using FSR
So I would say the majority of my time spent on the computer are productivity/desgin applications like after effects,blender,unity,unreal,photoshop,etc. with that said I do plan on getting a 4080 super when I upgrade. I’ve been on my 5700xt since 2020 and when it comes to rendering time specifically with blender it takes forever to render animations in cycles. Compared to the numbers I’ve seen in Nvidia cards, Nvidia crushes on that end. If I wasn’t doing anything other than gaming I’d probably skip out on Nvidia entirely and favored team red a little longer. Unfortunately for me as a designer my time matters and team green can save me a lot of time on rendering. Any other creatives out there similar to me please I’d like to talk abt this more!
Agree
Seems a lot of us were ready to get the 7900xtx just before 4080s announcement. I would really like to see comparison vids and get advice on which to get. Such a tough decision now! Also, a comparison of the two cards with an AMD 7800x3d CPU, since pairing the xtx with the x3d gives a boost.
I hate to say this about NVidia. But many of us gamers are just plain sick and tired of their pricing and marketing games and this name structure is just insane too. To make matter worse for them the power connector is still an issue and NVidia never once apologized for their screwup on their part. They just sold a bad product and left the consumer hanging and blame them for their own mistake. NVidia is done in my book and they can go just suck wind at this point for all I care.
Now AMD on the other hand is looking better and better with each new product coming out and they are beating NVidia hand over fist in pricing and product quality.
Intel's GPU even looks better then NVidia.
NVidia need to focus more on cleaning up their act and if I was a stockholder with them. I would demand their CEO to be fired.
never gonna happen. everyone will still buy nvidia no matter how many rants and meltdowns people have about them. Thats the reality
That's exactly why I won't buy anymore green puke stuff after almost 20 years of nvidia. I'm waiting to get xtx 7900 Tuff !!!! it is difficult for me to don't press the "Buy" button for that great 24 Gb card but right now in Europe it's at +- 1100 euros so soon we'll have better prices hopefully, more than ready to jump into RED team ! So far my Strix 3070 Ti still manages fine ;)
@@atishaliithe 7900XTX is a absolute powerhouse!! I went for the ASRock taichi OC
@atishalineith6658 but this is nothing new really? Nvidia have been pulling stunts for a while now so why change? Nvidia is actually the better card
I agree with you but nvidia screw us too much since many years@@Zombie101
Its bigger question how retailers will react with tens of thousands of rtx 4080 and 4070/ti cards at high prices which are now there
I never thought of that… What the hell are retailers going to do. they can’t sell them for $200+ dollars less and lose their profit margin. But at the same time, people won’t buy them over the super at the same price point. I’ve been waiting for the 4080 super and the 999 price and added performance, although still pricey was more comfortable for me. A solid discount on the non-supers could sway me in that direction. But let’s be real here 😂
yes, i watch amazon ,newegg and others and they have tons of unsolded rtx 4080 and 4070/ti at high prices especially rtx 4080 so i really doubt they will cut prices alot of 4080 because its easier to raise prices of 4080super and 999$ would probably be low amount on Nvidia sites untill scalpers dont buy it @@worldwide714
I don't think there are tens of thousands. I checked best buy and all the RTX 4080's are Out of Stock.
@@worldwide714 They will sell the few new 4080s that will be produced for 1200$ and the older 4080 for around 1000-1100$, nice played nvidia!
@@Dexion845 i think on all stores all over the world snd 2 days ago when i watch at Amazon and Newegg they have lot of rtx 4080 from 1160-1500+$
I may end up stay on my 6800 but an upgrade won't hurt same time im still on a 3900x, if i grab a 7900 or a 4080 may as well get a faster cpu too
6800 is a really good card just hang onto it.... If it aint broke don't fix it. Save the money upgrade your mobo/cpu/ram
What the card with the anonymous hacker art?
RTX 4000 series = Good performance, great features, TERRIBLE VALUE
RTX 4000 Super line up = Very good performance, great features, BAD VALUE
The issue has been the pricing. The performance R&D focus needs to go in favour of creating these chips/cards at decent pricing.
Honestly a RTX 5070 16GB for $399 without any performance gains over the 4070 would still be a HUGE win.
R&D is one of the main reasons for high price points. It costs money to research and develop.
Want to upgrade my 2070 Super for 1440 only gaming, what should I do??? Wait for 50.., get a 4070 Super, get a 6750Xt?
@@ThePalePatriot ray tracing or no? That’s what it boils down to.
@@ThePalePatriot no need to wait for 50. Anymore the perf jumps aren’t enough to care and they match it with price increases.
@@ThePalePatriot Overclock the 2070 to the max. Use FSR 3 Mods and DLSS whereever possible and wait for the RTX 5000 and Battlemage.
With any luck, we will see a lot more competition and better pricing.
Especially for the 4000 cards.
Not to worry. I'm not buying ANY RTX 4000 cards even if they were reasonably priced give that people are still finding new things wrong with the 12VHPWR connector.
And to be honest, I doubt AMD will lower the price on the 7900XTX enough to make me want to upgrade my existing card.
Nvidia will intentionally not supply enough cards so that people get desperate and end up buying the original 40 series at msrp.
Nvidia sells them to distributors at the same price, it's the other companies marking up the price from msrp. But people just want to be haters lol.
actual braindead take lmao
@@TyTan_ But this is what will happen. Nvidia don't want another 30 series fiasco with tons of GPU in stock. They want 40 series gone when 50 series launch later this year.
I just sold my 6950xt to be able to purchase the 4080 super. I had been planning to buy the 7900xtx. Ready to get a new monitor and use dlss and ray tracing for a change.
They will just slash prices
US - Bestbuy price as of 2024/01/19 : Asus Tuff 4080 Super, NON OC - $1199 (Yes non OC version, and even the OC one is a ripoff since u can just OC urself)
Asus ROG Strix OC 4080 super - $1550... Yeah ....
MSI Ventus, Gigabyte aero/gaming are between $999 to $1050 tho. I suspect those cards near MSRP will sell out due to not many of them (Like 2 per store). There was a Zotac 4080 black friday sale for $980, but it's a Zotac so ...). Most of the cards are $1100 + , with Asus charging the usual Asus tax. There was a Zotac 4080 black friday sale for $980, but it's a Zotac so ...
the tuff non oc price dropped to 999.99
what’s the best pc to run gta 5 lspdfr super smoothly
wont buy, because you cant buy them yet :)
also, sorry, but 4080 super should be better with and without RT now... making it overall a better GPU
4080s worth ai power?
dont buy it yet?' where the fck you could buy super cards anyway?? and you think that Amazon,Newegg ,microcenter and all others will throw or cutt on half prices of non super cards which have pretty high prices now
Like always
Vote with your wallets guys
And dont buy that scam
DON’T Buy an RTX 4080 Super just yet! - won't be problem as it's launch is 3 weeks away lmao
Not looking at AMD cards, myself. I have a 2060Super. It's time to upgrade
wait here wait there now wait for 5000 series
I'm good with my 7900 xtx playing on my ultrawide monitor 3440x1440. I'll definitely skip the next generation gpus coming up.
i bought asus strix oc 4080 3 months ago and i feel stupid.. nvidia middlefingered 4080 owners...
Take solace .. you still have a wicked good card, strix no less .. I'm using Canadian money, which dropped ~23% against USD this year, and I just cant go over $800 CAD, money is tough to come by. I use a 10 year old card but I need a 40 series cuz electricity is expensive. I feel you though.
Can we stop calling these “interesting marketing strategies” and start calling them what they are?? Minimal improvements and money grabs?
So don’t buy it lol.
@@noobovsky420 well duhhhh clearly I’m not running to market to grab one. But that’s NOT the point. It was to eliminate stupid releases like this. They essentially release the same product 3 times and that’s not fair to consumers. The base series, the super series and the ti series when in reality they could have released the best of each of those one time and kept prices down while also actually putting to market products consumers want as opposed to generating f.o.m.o with batch releases and calling it and upgrade cycle. They know as soon as they release the very first card which silicon is the best. Long story short. Don’t make monkeys out of your customer base
@@noobovsky420yeah change the channel
What you feel they should be is not what they are, the world don't revolve around your opinion, I agree expensively but focus on God not prices of stuff.
Ofc they’re “money grabs” that’s the point of running a business
no
rtx 4070 ti super nice upgrade good loking card price okay rtx 4080 super okay upgrade but need 20gb vram because of 4k gaming gpu overal normal looking rtx 4070 super nice upgrade 20% cores litle faster but 12gb vram is not greatest in 2024 but overally okay looking card
DOA
AMd is trash lol. well with graphic cards. They are so far behind with hardware and especially software. thats the reason amd has to be more price to performance based. Basically if u are really poor u go with intel graphic cards and if u are doing okay but dont have too much cash u go with amd and if you got that money coming in then nvidia is the go too.
@Ambander1 lmao. How is that the best? It beats the 4090?
@Ambander1 Did i not read my comment lol about pricing and how it pretty much goes. Nvidia is like apple. Well earned to charge premium
I'll wait for the 5xxx series. If they're still high priced I'm just going to buy a used top tier 3xxx series.
they need to release a 5090 or a titan already i need something better than the 4090
4090 is a beast you crazy
Why would I buy anything other than NVIDIA? They are the best all-around GPU.
AMD is like 😵
AMD cant do anything, they need to make a new chip to compete, maybe rx8000 will come sooner
@Ambander1no it’s not
I don't know who on earth would spend $1000 on a 80 series card. When ray tracing is in such infancy. By the time it's remotely normalized these cards will be outdated.
All new cards now are still over-inflated due to the pandemic and supply chain issues, we are past this. If you had a card back then you paid more just to have a card, those are not normal prices and they cannot be used to justify new prices..
AMD for the win...with all the V ram, I could care less. If I have 160 FPS over 145 at 1440P if a Nvidia card offers 5% more.
I'm waiting for the 7900xtxtx
I'm waiting for 7900XXX 😉 🤨
AMD doesn't have Cuda... So not worth it.
You have to have rocks in your head to be buying new graphics cards today.
Ti+super= Si
What's next NVIDIA? RTX 4080 Ti Super Pro Max Ultra? 🤣🤦🏻♂️
I was just researching part for building my first PC ever and was going to get the 7900XTX when I saw the 4080 Super announcement. I dont really know a whole lot about this sort of this so I am not sure which to go with.
Unless you need the vram i would go with the 4080 super, simply put it has better features and now a similar price point
Same predicament. Literally wait till the end of the month to get the xtx, then the announcement dropped. Now I don't know. I feel this was very deliberate timing on nvidias part but I am very interested in seeing amd's response
Get the 4080 super buddy
I like Nvidia more so, that’s just my opinion though. You honestly can’t go wrong with either
the $200 reduction are still insane price if you compared with 30's series performance.
None of these cards will get
Sold at MSRP. Unless you get the founder edition. Nvidia are not dumb, gamers are.
@@fredm4197 Hit the nail on the head. This is especially true for those living outside USA.
I still am going to go with the 4080 SUPER. I was convinced from the 4070ti SUPER. Even that GPU for this same reason I about to say. If me or anyone spends $1k US on GPU (or close enough to), why not get the GPU with all the features? Now, if it were a $300, that person may be more budget oriented, but $1k US??? Nah! I guess it more depends on what type of Gamer you are. I mean, I'm not mad at anybody getting an XTX for (whatever price) with 4080 raster either. I have an all AMD build, so I have no bias. Which is another reason I'm considering it. I'm not going to not buy it for fear of fanboyism or cause a group of strangers feels someway about the brand. Give me the fidelity, stability & speed I want in my games and this should. Good video though!
why? because maybe u dont use them. 2. who asked you to motivate your spendings man ? if you gonna buy 4080 super and feel guilty about it maybe go for xtx :))
If you are interested in going on UA-cam and talking about how happy you are, go with the XTX. If you are looking to seriously play games with high resolution, frame rate, and the latest and greatest technologies, go with the Nvidia. Look, there's a reason AMD barely has broken the Steam charts for GPU sales yet has 50x the fanboys on YT. You already know what they are going to tell you "get the XTX". If people haven't picked up on the pattern of every video that there are AMD salesman deployed broadly throughout all of YT, perhaps you should start paying attention and realizing this is going to have to be a personal decision you make based on your own research and choice with how to spend your own money. Do not expect any real advice on YT, the bias is real and it is heavily weighted toward AMD. You already know all of this and made the comment anyway.
@@Mcnooblet there's a reason market share of Nvidia went down since 6xxx generation .
I literally OC and UV my 7900XTX it's going to be faster than the 4080 Super the 4090 is only 14 percent faster in 1440P this isn't gonna do shit lol especially with AFMF out right now being used with FSR Nvidia does not stand a chance
Oh its u. Actual clown lmao. Still remember when u said the 7900 XTX is faster than a 4090 using frame gen.
Rebrandded and POS prices...
If you can find a 4080 or 4080 super for $1,000.00 buy it as fast as possible hahaha.
Idk what this clown is talking about you can’t lose though the chance of these cards being available at msrp ever is slim to none and most likely will be at $1200 like the original 4080 ….
If you don’t want a high end gpu or can’t afford one then this isn’t for you buy a used 30 series there are plenty of 3080 floating around for $400 or less … seriously for most PC gamers that is as much performance as you will need for prob the next 5 years and only thing you won’t have is the dlss frame gen option …
But with mining starting to even our profit wise again lately 4080s could very possibly be a hard to get again at msrp like the last 4 years of GPU market.
Pricing still sucks, i pass.
If 4080S came with 20gb and 12,000 cuda at $999 - I would have bought one in a second.