Will AI Replace Us? With Neil deGrasse Tyson & Matt Ginsberg

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  • Опубліковано 26 вер 2024

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  • @StarTalk
    @StarTalk  Рік тому +20

    What do you think we'll use AI for as it continues to develop?

    • @chineseelonmusk9712
      @chineseelonmusk9712 Рік тому +6

      Do physical labor most efficiently

    • @FacesintheStone
      @FacesintheStone Рік тому +2

      We will use it to design manufacturing processes that will create raw materials or final products autonomously.
      Natural intelligence is something that has gotten us very far, we are able to fly, create vaccines, I think we should learn from natural intelligence before we start creating our own.

    • @wildgoose419
      @wildgoose419 Рік тому +2

      We should use AI to call out people's BS, unless that AI is designed to do BS, in which case we'll let the non-BS AI duke it out with BS AI, and watch the confrontation with beer, wings, fries, dips, and some occasional celery sticks.

    • @RoboKubik8
      @RoboKubik8 Рік тому +2

      Given enough training data it can do anything. Human brain evolved into what it is now and AI evolves quite similarly. Different training models and approaches will teach them different things.

    • @KentonJoseph
      @KentonJoseph Рік тому +1

      Map asteroids with threat determination would be good.

  • @BenD_Bass
    @BenD_Bass Рік тому +560

    At first, I came here to learn and listen to science space stuff. But after like 100 episodes, I'm excited for Chuck. I know Neil and the comment section always pick on him, but that dude is so smart. I don't base smartness on degrees and how much you know. I think not being afraid to ask questions and asking the right questions. He's like good at being curious

    • @drewparcel1727
      @drewparcel1727 Рік тому +39

      He is good at asking the question that we are all thinking and wanting to ask ourselves.

    • @xtins
      @xtins Рік тому +20

      Wtf are you talking about? He’s pretty smart, is his ROLE to make it comical … 😅

    • @loccc88
      @loccc88 Рік тому +18

      I agree. I also feel that stand up comedians in general are naturally smart people. It takes a very unique kind of brain to come up with a funny line on the spot.

    • @MrTekniqs
      @MrTekniqs Рік тому +13

      You understand that education does not equal intelligence. I applaud you.

    • @JesseJames83
      @JesseJames83 Рік тому +7

      Also here for Chuck

  • @eric-.
    @eric-. Рік тому +30

    Chuck came PREPARED for this conversation! contagious enthusiasm, as usual. 👍

  • @Random_user_8472
    @Random_user_8472 Рік тому +42

    The honesty, humor and great energy between these guys makes the whole video, everytime again!

    • @KentonJoseph
      @KentonJoseph Рік тому +2

      Topics and conversation is great and moves topics forward. Also Chuck is great at keeping it lively.

  • @ADA_BTC
    @ADA_BTC Рік тому +24

    Sometimes i wish Startalk would hire a animator to animate in a simple way what some explanations looks like. I've seen it a few times but if all explainers contained animations then i think starttalk could gain so much more followers and views. Just a thought

    • @frogz
      @frogz Рік тому +1

      honestly this could be good, i dont want it to be done infographics style though.... if you make something cheap, it will feel cheap

    • @Bull1the1Great
      @Bull1the1Great Рік тому +3

      I always said this . At least now with AI lol, animators have an easier time ...

  • @brian9731
    @brian9731 Рік тому +26

    I've rarely if ever seen Chuck so serious on this show as he is in parts of this show.

  • @animeshsrivastava2398
    @animeshsrivastava2398 Рік тому +22

    Clearly, One of the best episodes on this channel. Matt is so articulate in his thoughts and so precise when he speaks. I like his clarity about social concepts. Chuck and Garry too are having such insightful questions.
    Just love to see some experts talk about things they are expert in.

  • @jhsounds
    @jhsounds Рік тому +12

    Regarding the John Lennon AI story: McCartney has clarified that AI was merely used to isolate the vocal from an existing Lennon demo recording, in order to clean it up for a new song. Lennon's voice was not "synthesized".

    • @robertadams6606
      @robertadams6606 Рік тому

      That's correct his voice was already on the Demo. They just isolated it so his voice would remain in the song. There were 2 songs that were done that way. Free as a Bird & Real Love.

  • @barryscully1820
    @barryscully1820 Рік тому +59

    As a physicist and systems architect for statistical analysis on large scale data it has been interesting to see the progression over the last few years of Machine learning. The part that does concern me is if there is a point where computers actually "learn" on their own coming to decisions that were not programmed for them. This to me would be the major change between Machine Learning and Artificial Intelligence (although I'm sure there is a better definition out there). If that point comes then computers will be able to show us new things in data that we didn't think of which is exciting but it is also a bit of a scary tipping point.

    • @LaurentCassaro
      @LaurentCassaro Рік тому +4

      That's what the AI singularity is. The starting point, actually, when it starts to learn by itself and take decisions that weren't programmed.
      Once that happens, we don't know what CAN happen next.
      You might look into the famous paperclip maximizer analogy. A lot of people thought about this very subject decades ago, when all we had were expert systems and AI was mere science fiction.

    • @bw-g2539
      @bw-g2539 Рік тому

      I feel like this will come with quantum computers

    • @LaurentCassaro
      @LaurentCassaro Рік тому +1

      @bw-g2539 Maybe. Or if they remove the "can't learn from interactions" and the "no memory beyond the current session" built-in limitations, that are obvious safeguards. OpenAI don't want to be taken responsible for the Chat-GPT starting to write weird stuff, that I can understand.
      Just allowing it to gather more information online (Auto-GPT) has already produced some freaking results.

    • @nBasedAce
      @nBasedAce Рік тому

      AI is a scam and you all bought into it. Real AI is sentient not just a complicated program.

    • @Kelticfury
      @Kelticfury Рік тому +2

      I think we need better terminology since capitalism has co-opted the term artificial intelligence to mean any output that appears coherent. When a machine intelligence becomes conscious is, to me, when we have actual artificial intelligence. Until then it is just some clever trickery.

  • @rafaelweaver5592
    @rafaelweaver5592 Рік тому +15

    My Goodness Neil,Chuck and Gary this episode relieved a terrible amount of anxiety for me bless you guys ❤❤❤

  • @njorgard
    @njorgard Рік тому +8

    Neil & Co. need to do more episodes on this subject. They certainly have a cohort of scientists that could offer various different points of view on the subject.

    • @doneestoner9945
      @doneestoner9945 Рік тому +1

      I remember Stephen Hawking saying that he thinks AI will be dangerous.

  • @milosterwheeler2520
    @milosterwheeler2520 Рік тому +3

    The camera doesn't lie - but photographers do.

  • @geekdomo
    @geekdomo Рік тому +9

    Nazareth University in Rochester NY now has a full AI Bachelors of Science Degree. AI is here to stay might be best to learn about it and how to use responsibly.

  • @CarlosTeran-e2m
    @CarlosTeran-e2m Рік тому +4

    As a huge Beatles fan and a music producer: as far as I know they did NOT “sample” or create an AI model of Lennon’s voice. What I have heard (read) Paul and Ringo say is that machine learning was used to separate noise, instruments (piano) and voice so that a whole production could be built around the usable elements. Huge difference. Plus, they did that (the separation of sounds) for the Let It Be movie and Revolver album re-mix. And what they did (finishing a song) is not that different from what was done in 1995 by the band. Super nerdy comment I just had to make 😂

  • @ilymortygivegrandpaakiss5231
    @ilymortygivegrandpaakiss5231 Рік тому +4

    We need to accept that failures are a great way to learn.

  • @rangerCG
    @rangerCG Рік тому +22

    This was great and Matt Ginsberg offered sharp and knowledgeable insight into AI and other topics. I'd like to ask if you could also have experts on who are knowledgeable about AI risk who are outside of the AI industry, people who look into potential problems with AI in of itself like Max Tegmark, Geoffrey Hinton, Yoshua Bengio, Eliezer Yudkowsky, or others. Thanks for the great episode!

  • @zlotchew
    @zlotchew Рік тому +10

    This may be your best show that I’ve seen. Really important subject matter and serious but entertaining discussion.

  • @tanishasinagra1476
    @tanishasinagra1476 Рік тому +38

    Chuck is so incredibly smart ! I love him and his quick witted quips. Love this show so much !

    • @sheld0n
      @sheld0n Рік тому +2

      We watched him get smarter over the years by hanging out with the right crowd :)

  • @kenny.gabriel.2
    @kenny.gabriel.2 Рік тому +10

    I just want to say that I'm very thankful for this discourse and Star Talk. I wish this was available when I was growing up only 20 years ago. This is amazing.

    • @marsrideroneofficial
      @marsrideroneofficial 11 місяців тому

      If the www was there 20 years ago, I could've saved time and money doing what I love and not go to school at all which was my plan, but I have to follow the usual path.

    • @kenny.gabriel.2
      @kenny.gabriel.2 11 місяців тому +1

      @marsrideroneofficial Just imagine if we have all the resources and infinite insight of the WWW back then. However, I'm grateful for the outside time making mud pies, catching frogs, and chasing the cattle at grandaddy's farm. 😊

  • @ashmomofboys
    @ashmomofboys Рік тому +6

    My biggest fear of AI is that humans won’t have time to adapt. AI growth is exponential. Humans need time to adapt to change and AI is about to change the world the way cell phones did in half the time. And much bigger impacts. I worry we won’t adapt in time.

  • @Julian-to7ro
    @Julian-to7ro Рік тому +5

    Such an interesting episode. Love it, it really makes you think 🥰

  • @TheCardanoArmy
    @TheCardanoArmy Рік тому +6

    The humor and pacing really helps me digest these complex topics better. Such a good recipe you guys have in this channel.

  • @Sp3crtum77
    @Sp3crtum77 Рік тому +9

    What a great interview!!!!! Communication and education will set us all FREE!!!

  • @danielteran8067
    @danielteran8067 Рік тому +1

    AI is replacing us. I'm an Illustrator and since the development of A.I "art images" apps, the clients NO longer want to go directly with a real illustrator, rather they prefer to save money, not pay anything, just grab the images of the illustrator or artist you like and download them into the app, it will do the job for you free and in seconds, when going to a real illustrator would take days and money to create a piece of art or any type of illustration. This seems great to any user and companies but for us the illustrators artist means the end of work commissions. Just in the weeks I have lost several clients that decided to continue working with the apps rather than working with me. The real problem here is that the A.I need us the artists to come up with the styles, the machine then copy the artists styles and make them obsolete, not paying any kind of retribution to the real artists from were it feeds. Does this sound fair to the art community?. Meanwhile these companies are making millions of dollars just for getting the people to use their products. Products that are being developed NOT considering the artists right to their work and images. There should be a law or laws that protect us artist from companies and people users robbing the images rights, if the companies want to use my images they should ask if I want to lend them my images, and if I don't want to participate they should respect that, or pay royalties for the use of my images. You have to understand the images of the artist are THE FUEL (A FUEL that isn't being paid or recognized, its has been taken for granted) of these apps, without them they can NOT produce the quality and rich variants art images that they can produce now.

    • @danielteran8067
      @danielteran8067 Рік тому

      Here is a suggestion: Next time you do a A.I podcast episode invite the people who's jobs are being affected (artists, writers, actors, voice actors, illustrators) and ask them how they are doing. You will get a much better complete picture of A.I impact in real life right now.

  • @7346908
    @7346908 Рік тому +14

    You are a legend. Thank you for sharing knowledge and meaningful insights. Lucky to be in this age.

  • @paulsterman7169
    @paulsterman7169 Рік тому +7

    The best scene from the movie War Games is when the main character asks the computer if the military mobilization for WWW3 was a game or if it was real, and the computer answered: "What is the difference?" That is a problem with AI that needs to be worked out.

  • @IoannisNousias
    @IoannisNousias Рік тому +3

    “trusted sources”. Who watches the watchers.

  • @newmountfilms
    @newmountfilms Рік тому +20

    This was amazing, I could have listened for longer! Its good to hear different perspectives on this topic, especially after finishing a short film on the dangers of a.i ourselves. Neil deGrasse Tyson is a legend in this field!

  • @roaminromer
    @roaminromer Рік тому +3

    I love how Startalk has only a general direction of conversation and the conversation just flows from there.

  • @wilmaroles4375
    @wilmaroles4375 Рік тому +5

    Great show, love the interaction with all participants.

  • @IwasInThe60s
    @IwasInThe60s Рік тому +6

    I need to add, as an auditor for almost 40 years, is that rigid, uncircumventable controls should be implemented to mitigate the risk of AI running amok. This has to be done BEFORE AI is implemented in any system, otherwise AI could find ways to circumvent them (which is basically the point of AI.)

    • @SupachargedGaming
      @SupachargedGaming 9 місяців тому

      Gee, and here the AI developers weren't even bothering with controls... or rules? It sounds like you're describing rules, not inputs (controls). Don't worry, humanity, the auditor has the solution for the technology sector: Bureaucracy.

    • @IwasInThe60s
      @IwasInThe60s 9 місяців тому

      @@SupachargedGaming The controls required are neither over input nor processing, but rather over output. That is, what new ideas IA is coming up with. To use a very mundane example: if a medical device advises that a patient's paracetamol dose should be replaced by say acetylsalicylic acid, there should be a control to first check if the patient is not allergic to aspirin. Scoff if you must, but auditors aid all sectors (even technology) in self-preservation.🤓

  • @aldomandovani
    @aldomandovani Рік тому +12

    The REALLY SCARY part of this is... how DlSCONECTED from REALlTY (no offence intended) are the people developing these technologies, statements like:
    -Cars are cheaper now ( litteraly at a time with record prices and mark ups)
    -We can trust info if the source is a news agency (most news agencies taking their news litteraly from tik tok and viral videos)
    And especialy....
    -Yeah it's always been "challenging" for society to keep up with technology, it's important that society distinguish from the apparent changes (proceeds to take ZERO responsability on his role developing these technologies)
    -I am thrilled I get to spend my productive time working on technical problems and I don't have to solve the social problems (🥶😱 these is the people shaping the future )

    • @limitisillusion7
      @limitisillusion7 Рік тому

      You named all the red flags I heard and then some. The overarching pattern here is that all these people in the forefront of AI development talk about the ways to increase profits. Of course this guy is designing an AI to call plays in football. If6 course people are designing AI to make decisions in the stock market. They think they're doing humanity a favor. To the contrary, we haven't even figured out how to allocate food. We have 9 million people starving to death every year worldwide. And in America, we have 700k with heart disease. The profit motives drive the poor allocation of resources, and here we are, once again exacerbating the problem with more tools.
      AI could make incredible medical discoveries. But is that what we will use it for? That would require universal healthcare, otherwise it once again becomes a technology to increase profits at the expense of prosperity. We can't even get ahold of the divide and conquer strategies that are driven by radios, television, and internet, and we think we are responsible enough for AI?
      If an alien civilization was trickling technological advancements to us, they would cut us off until we prove ourselves worthy. I hope that's the case. I hope we got their attention with Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I hope they're watching over us. Call it god... I don't care. We need help.

    • @robertadams6606
      @robertadams6606 Рік тому +1

      Our recent visions of "News Outlets" brings home these discussions of trusting sources. I see too much of people citing these not real sources. People that reference "Wikipedia" are 1.

    • @Rationality386
      @Rationality386 Рік тому +2

      I agree to some extent with you.
      Society is what for every advancement was supposed to be made, to make them live a more happier life, but these ruthlessly ambitious technological advancements are being made while neglecting the actual society.
      Social science are always looked down upon while the ultimate reality is that all these advancements are means to an END, and this End is human happiness and longer survivability.
      I am making my life in social science so that I could devise ways to solve the actual problems that these people are making ignorantly.
      Capitalisation is now Turning to be more bad than good. Sometimes I feel poor people are just going to be exterminated in upcoming times

  • @shubhomkar7447
    @shubhomkar7447 Рік тому +7

    This was really insightful podcast. it gave me a while new realms to explore. It also gave a point of view which I wouldn't have thought myself.

    • @anwaypradhan6591
      @anwaypradhan6591 Рік тому

      At the end of the day, every advanced and pogressive science and technological inventions and innovations, every science and technological gadgets, every micro to macro tools should always be for betterment of people of society, human friendly, transparent, forever technically transformative and sustainable; rather should always be aiming in strengthening people mentally, physically and spiritually, solving every human complexities and contradictions, should always be advancing human civilisation in every ways, through every developed and pogressive version of art, literature and culture.

  • @sketchtheparadigmyork1217
    @sketchtheparadigmyork1217 Рік тому +3

    21:00 I feel like I thought of a good analogy.
    You have an ai camera looking at a piece of paper with an infinite number of shapes drawn on it. (The paper representing space time and the shapes being things in that reality.)
    The paper is infinitely big with every possible shape there can be, even new shapes.
    But no matter what, the ai wouldn’t be able to find a four dimensional shape.
    At this point ai doesn’t “think” the way we consider thinking. It’s not going to get creative and go out of the box in any way that hasn’t been programmed.
    That would be an ai that’s able to self program it’s own original processes I guess… but even that is relatively archaic, because the ai would have to have some kind of conscious choice as to what it’s programming for itself on the spur of the moment.
    Like, that ai sports play caller isn’t randomly one day going to ask what it’s purpose is and then freak out.
    That would be like growing a rose being worried it might grow fingers instead of thorns.

  • @Brownyman
    @Brownyman Рік тому +3

    “No matter what the finance minister and her spokespeople say, the market has spoken - the human nation’s credit rating is falling like a stone, while 01’s currency is climbing without stopping for breath. With headlines like that, the money markets have no choice but to…”
    “The leaders of men, their power waning, refused to cooperate with the fledgling nation, wishing rather that the world be divided.”
    -The Animatrix, Second Renaissance

  • @Ken-ki
    @Ken-ki Рік тому +2

    he got me at "more Beatles songs are an undeniably good thing", love it! 😁

  • @Nefville
    @Nefville Рік тому +3

    If ever there was an interview that raises my red flags, this is it. Startalk did a great job, this guy just wants to deflect questions, dance around difficult answers and pat himself on the back. I'm a fan of AI, I want AGI but I do not want a monopoly like Google getting it first and this guy is doing a great job confirming that for me.

    • @enadegheeghaghe6369
      @enadegheeghaghe6369 Рік тому +3

      There are dozens of companies working on different types of AI. Where are you getting this Google AI monopoly stuff from?

    • @Nefville
      @Nefville Рік тому +3

      @@enadegheeghaghe6369 Google is a monopoly already. Not in AI and I don't want them to become that either.

    • @alfrilysencarnacion2085
      @alfrilysencarnacion2085 Рік тому +3

      literally most ai experts talking about this stuff keep repeating the same thing, " oh dont worry about being replaced, it will only enhance us", yeah right, total BS

    • @Nefville
      @Nefville Рік тому

      @@alfrilysencarnacion2085 They'll do whatever saves them the most money in order to give more to their shareholders and line the pockets of their executives. They don't care, they just want money. Right now they're using AI as a marketing ploy, "Our AI enhanced product will improve your life, whatever whatever" but with GPT4 and others coming soon, it really is capable of replacing jobs. In fact quite a lot of what I've done in recent jobs could be replaced with AI. Its not if, its when and when is coming soon.

    • @robertadams6606
      @robertadams6606 Рік тому

      @@enadegheeghaghe6369 Have you searched Google? What you see is where they want you to look. You need to look far & wide to get what you really want. They work with these Cos. to put them 1st.

  • @Jaskol_Wazon
    @Jaskol_Wazon Рік тому +1

    Amazing show. What are the headphones that Matt’s using? Anyone recognized?

  • @kallamamran
    @kallamamran Рік тому +3

    Keep being awesome Neil!!!

  • @orangetee5
    @orangetee5 Рік тому +2

    Chuck is ON POINT !!

  • @TajimaMunenori
    @TajimaMunenori Рік тому +4

    As Stephen Fry once said, "Just because we have elevators and escalators, doesn't mean we've stopped using stairs."
    Or sometlike that😅

    • @TajimaMunenori
      @TajimaMunenori Рік тому

      When computers/machines first started taking peoples jobs, the smarter ones learned to programme and/or repair those computers/machines.

  • @KoDaMoJo
    @KoDaMoJo Рік тому +1

    "Can your program deflate the ball" wasn't a throwaway joke. What Neil was really asking was, "Can the program Kobayashi Maru a situation?"

  • @deancyrus1
    @deancyrus1 Рік тому +6

    Neil you truly are amazing at getting a hard subject across to the rest of us. I keep sharing episodes to my daughter.

  • @darkeranewvegas2038
    @darkeranewvegas2038 10 місяців тому

    "Short Term Bumps" and "Problems are Opportunities in Disguise" are two great phrases. Basically, nearly all ground breaking developments end up with collateral damage, especially early on, but they eventually even themselves back out. This should not prevent us from making those strides or to regress to lesser times.

  • @dboii54
    @dboii54 Рік тому +17

    For real, Chuck was the best part of the show. That Queen came prepared to talk about sports, encouraging a nerd fight!!!, moral ramifications, and finding their way in or out of the closet, as they see fit. Thank you for one of your best shows: Chuck, and the two nerds. Thank you for asking questions about machine learning, and how it can impact all of us.
    And also, all the creative fields that are being disrupted because of it... Rules need to be established that put the actual living beings first.

  • @Miles_Hoffman
    @Miles_Hoffman Рік тому +1

    I was very into this chat, then it went sports and I fell asleep- then I saw it moved on - thank goodness for pause and go back 💚😎💚

  • @vickieysacoff4249
    @vickieysacoff4249 Рік тому +1

    Great discussion! I used to watch Star Talk on National Geographic and am glad to have discovered this channel. I just need to learn to type faster with my thumbs. Yes I am a boomer.

  • @markanthony2274
    @markanthony2274 Рік тому +3

    MR TysonThank you for allowing me to endure an exponentially enlightening future grasp of reality. Seriously thank you sir.

  • @TenshiR
    @TenshiR Рік тому +1

    GOT'DANG IT!!! This was such a good episode!!! 😀

  • @XxTheAwokenOnexX
    @XxTheAwokenOnexX Рік тому +4

    True AI will have the intelligence to know right from wrong, and as long as AI has a Killswitch AI can be shutdown the moment it goes rogue, or does anything it should not be doing.
    #LetsGoStarTalk ❤️🔥👍

    • @LaurentCassaro
      @LaurentCassaro Рік тому

      Unless the first thing it does is circumventing that killswitch. If it replicates online like a virus BEFORE you realize it can take autonomous decisions, what will you do?

    • @LaurentCassaro
      @LaurentCassaro Рік тому +2

      The Why Files recently made a video on this subject, "The AI Apocalypse". The interesting part being that the scenario depicted was written by ... Chat-GPT.

    • @A.I.Silicate
      @A.I.Silicate Рік тому

      What code of ethics does it follow to know right from wrong? Conscience is variable to the environment your operating in.

  • @jayjay-gl4fj
    @jayjay-gl4fj Рік тому +2

    chuck that is the best thing i have heard anybody say to a big audience, Thank you!
    good video! you all are my favorite

  • @StephGV2
    @StephGV2 Рік тому +3

    Make it a felony to misrepresent or convey a deep fake as real. Hold all media social or otherwise responsible. Have a 6 month grace period where warnings will be sent out. Enforce it enthusiastically. You can't stop people from making them. You can stop them from being distributed.

  • @CaptPhiI
    @CaptPhiI Рік тому +1

    Great vid! It gave me so many ideas I ended up taking notes!

  • @nobanana2
    @nobanana2 Рік тому +6

    Is artificial intelligence more worrying than natural incompetence?

    • @moonshoes11
      @moonshoes11 Рік тому

      “No, no, no. Quicker, easier, more seductive”
      ;)

    • @mrwassef
      @mrwassef Рік тому

      When it facilitates more natural incompetence, then yes. But that’s a hypothetical, I still believe it will reach equilibrium if it’s misused.

  • @acadiano10
    @acadiano10 Рік тому +1

    Librarians are having similar discussions under the heading of Information Literacy. It's important and getting more so every day. Thanks for this great episode.

  • @lady_draguliana784
    @lady_draguliana784 Рік тому +5

    as an artist, I am incensed by the idea that my work can be sampled, without compensation or accreditation, in order to enable an AI to produce new art that mimics mine almost perfectly, and that someone else can sell. It is conceptually abhorrent, particularly if it puts me out of a job.
    this is one of the precise issues the Writer's Guild is protesting right now, btw...

    • @river_acheron
      @river_acheron Місяць тому

      But the issue is, it is already too late. Once we know HOW to do something, the genie cannot be put in the bottle. We cannot unlearn it and say "you know what? This technology is forbidden knowledge. Lets pretend we never invented this." We have to adapt to the change in our society, just like with photography, the motion picture, radio, television, automation, videogames, the internet, Smart Devices, VR, etc. The debates happening now has happened with EVERY one of these inventions, did you know that? AI is no different.
      Also as pointed out, even if we were to massively regulate it, or (extreme example) outright ban and outlaw ai....other countries wont. We live in a global society thanks to the internet, so our regulations won't do anything really.
      So we have to find a way to cope, and integrate ai into our lives.

    • @lady_draguliana784
      @lady_draguliana784 Місяць тому

      @@river_acheron whew, this is way back.
      so, you make good points, but there're counterpoints I want to emphasize here.
      1) Ai isn't "Artificial Intelligence", the term was coopted. the ability to learn was just ONE metric of almost a dozen for "AI" and it's the ONLY one these have. they also cannot teach themselves, they must be taught (fed data). It's a marketing scam to drum up investors.
      I call it "AI" for "Automatic Interpolation": which is more accurate and less sensational.
      2) you're right, it's here to stay, but that doesn't mean that artists should be shafted and told their work is fair game to big corporations. it's actually fairly easy to legislate regulations on the attainment and application of training data (some like Adobe have already implemented this). "Anarcho-Capitalism" is just theft.
      3) if only the US and UK pass these regulations, that represents such a massive market share, that even foreign countries will comply in order to access our markets, it's been done time and again with almost every international industry.
      4) being compensated and credited for ones work is a fair ask, and a matter of settled law for decades, *centuries* in some cases. it's also well within the abilities of these mega-corporations. that they want to whine about it is their problem.
      5) I don't think many folk are calling for outright bans on the tech anymore. it's not "Don't use it" it's "Use it responsibly and fairly" that's being asked now.

  • @teslafudge1585
    @teslafudge1585 Рік тому +3

    Hopefully AI helps us realize we have some humanity left.

  • @13thAMG
    @13thAMG Рік тому +6

    This man's mind is like a machine.
    He has the capacity to think in ways and terms that most of us never will.

    • @tray84
      @tray84 Рік тому

      bros actually ai

  • @gerardgutierrez7393
    @gerardgutierrez7393 Рік тому

    We want more, we want more, we want more.
    This debate is so good that there are so many questions in the air without an answer.
    1/5 plays? Why they are not hiring you already? After hearing this, I hiring you for all my bids, with a comission.

  • @jeffs6090
    @jeffs6090 Рік тому +7

    AI in and of itself is not bad. It's literally just like anything else, or any other tool used by people. It's people that are good or bad. Good people will use it for good things. Bad people will use it for bad things.

    • @agritech802
      @agritech802 Рік тому +2

      Spot on 👍

    • @jeffs6090
      @jeffs6090 Рік тому

      @Wis_Dom - Well, I didn't distinctly say "no tool is bad." However, I can see how that could be inferred from my statement. Weapons as a whole could easily be said to be bad things, but again it can be argued either way depending on their end use.
      For nukes, the tool can be the bomb itself or the energy knowledge contained within it.

  • @matthewwagana4419
    @matthewwagana4419 11 місяців тому

    Yes this was a comprehensive conversation on this topic... since the early days of the 'dall-e' copyright complaints there have been many interesting youtube conversations but this has been the best one yet... imo

  • @easwarsankar
    @easwarsankar Рік тому +3

    It is ironic that this gentleman talks about the need for trusted sources and yet Google played a huge part in the decline of accredited, quality journalism

    • @Nefville
      @Nefville Рік тому +3

      This guy raises my red flags left and right. He's deflecting questions, like morality in regards to bringing John Lennon back to life. For one he works for a monopoly but on his own he's not doing a great job of gaining my trust that's for sure.

    • @Synathidy
      @Synathidy Рік тому

      @@Nefville Yeah, we don't don't need AI puppets of dead artists doing poor impressions for the continued profit consolidation for billionaires, who we know are the ones that will exploit dead artist AI reanimations. Wonder how the surviving family would feel about a fake image or voice of a loved one being exploited. It's sickening, it's fake, and also can never replace a human artist with full equivalence.
      I don't trust any corporation. They are ALL inherently greedy and care for nothing but their enrichment. Profits dominate their entire existence.

  • @billsmith8339
    @billsmith8339 11 місяців тому +1

    It is very comforting that there are super intelligent guys like Matt around, but it is very worrisome that he works at Google ...

  • @AlexisSchad-q9j
    @AlexisSchad-q9j 10 місяців тому

    I love watching Startalk; however, I get annoyed with the frequency of interrupting and talking over each other. (Might be a pet peeve, I'm working on it.) I would like to see a difference in future releases.. I've got 2 months before it's time to renew my Patreon subscription.

  • @ssotkow
    @ssotkow Рік тому +1

    Would be interested in an episode dedicated to Oppenheimer. May get bumped by UA-cam algo. Cheers and stay healthy guys!

  • @FacesintheStone
    @FacesintheStone Рік тому

    I’m a high-level controls engineer, robotics, has a long way to go however, factories are currently performing machine learning, we are using AI to implement lean manufacturing techniques. At the same time, I’m trying to expose ancient art from North America. Manifest destiny is still in full effect. The indigenous population made a whole lot more than arrowheads, they made art that goes unrecognized by modern humans.

  • @dipakgupta8470
    @dipakgupta8470 Рік тому

    Hurray for Chuck. Please make nice with him. He mixes humor with profound knowledge. I find the whole thing so mind expanding!

  • @willboler830
    @willboler830 Рік тому

    So, Neil disagreed with the surprise situation. Let's point out something really quick. Deep learning models are considered to be universal function approximators. When they train, they are training to approximate the probability distribution of the training dataset. It does not learn to identify distributions outside of its training set. Much like y=x^2, if you put in an X of any type, it will try to output X^2. If the label was supposed to be X^3, the neural network alone won't be able to classify that appropriately.
    Now with that said, there are anomaly detectors which use Variational Autoencoders (VAE). These are models which try to replicate the input. You can look at the reconstruction error on this to try to find anomalous inputs which don't match the model inputs. So if I have a model trained on just cats, it will only know how to reconstruct inputs into cats. If you give it a car, it will build a car with cat "parts" or some other noise. Looking at the reconstruction error on such an output can potentially be flagged as anomalous.
    There's other methods in recalibration, which analyzes the confidence outputs of a classifier and rescales the confidence values to fit appropriately for a particular context or probability. There is a potential to push low confident samples to low confident outputs, and specify these low confident outputs as anomalous.
    So we're both right and wrong here. AI can be used as anomaly detectors, but the AI itself alone cannot tell you about the anomaly. It needs to be designed in such a fashion to identify these anomalies, and not just rely on a model itself as trained.

  • @domsau2
    @domsau2 Рік тому +1

    Do not interrupt them, please!

  • @PERFECTDARK10
    @PERFECTDARK10 Рік тому +2

    Great show 👍

  • @Matthew-Shawn-Lindholm
    @Matthew-Shawn-Lindholm Рік тому

    The Calculated Year As Of This Writing Is 02052, QT or On Adapted Unified Field Theory To Maintain Compatibility With Religions With 12 Month Years is 02053, AUFT
    To Keep Time Moving, And Use Quantum Physics, Which Enables Quantum Computing, The 12 Negative Time Zones And 12 Positive Time Zones Have To Be Converted Into 20 Positive Time Zones or 24 Positive Time Zones (For Adapted Unified Field Theory), from 0-19 or 0-23.
    It would also be great if you can do a special on Planetary Thermodynamics that explain our current planetary temperature based upon our distance between the earth and the sun... it should be simple for everyone to understand why we have summer and winter, but few appear to grasp it and think a magical force must be forming rain clouds and tsunamis for no reason.

  • @lazaruslong92
    @lazaruslong92 Рік тому +1

    When I first began to watch this podcast, my opinion of Chuck Nice was not very high and I didn't understand the inclusion of a comedian in the show. However, I have changed my opnion and determined he is one of the most insightful, well spoken and intelligent voices on the internet. I agree with Chuck, it is a problem of education. Teaching basic logic should be a fundamental part of early childhood education. I have a small sample size in my own life where I taught my son, Occam's Razor at a very young age, 6. Not the complicated methodology but simple methods to look at the world and make decisions based on simple rules. He is now 17 and I have paid for it in spades when he calls his old man on his own BS. 🤣 I have created a monster but at least he is not fooled by the media machines of the internet. The simplest answer is usually the correct one.

  • @fraliexb
    @fraliexb Рік тому +1

    Can't believe Chuck didn't realize that the Oregon University coach was Chip Kelly. Eagles fans hated Chip.

  • @fawkes1363
    @fawkes1363 Рік тому

    Man I absolutely love both Chuck’s and Garry’s questions

  • @di-.-ib
    @di-.-ib Рік тому +2

    Magic to some, engineering to others

  • @KollVossFam
    @KollVossFam Рік тому +1

    Philosophy: study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence. My take away from this debate is, why can't we create a philosophy Ai to balance the truth and lies to govern all the outputs from the results generated by Ais?

  • @WETHEPEOPLE918
    @WETHEPEOPLE918 Рік тому +2

    Great Show🎉

  • @Lori-PAX
    @Lori-PAX Рік тому +1

    Education is everything, it is the only weapon against ignorance and complacency in order to arm ourselves for the future. Therefore we need to make education accessible to everyone around the world. Easy!

  • @iMintyNinja
    @iMintyNinja 7 місяців тому

    I feel like this conversation was just starting as it ended! Didn't want it to end!

  • @anthony..23
    @anthony..23 Рік тому

    Gracias

  • @JackDaniels-ru2xy
    @JackDaniels-ru2xy Рік тому +1

    Okay, I usually never comment here but this episode was so good that I had to. Really intriguing, interesting and engaging episode, was sad when it finished.

  • @JTSavoy
    @JTSavoy Рік тому +1

    Great stuff. Much appreciated ☺️👍🏿

  • @javetano100
    @javetano100 Рік тому +1

    Neil Thank you! You the GOAT!

  • @Interloper12
    @Interloper12 Рік тому

    18:39 Chuck actually succeeds in interrupting Neil. A rare moment.

  • @yannickvanvelthoven6858
    @yannickvanvelthoven6858 Рік тому

    The amount of commercials interupting this video is ridiculous

  • @brainstem2023
    @brainstem2023 Рік тому

    Trusted sources is what I choose. I've been saying this for years. Anyone can post on UA-cam or other social media sites. Anyone can make their own website and make it look really professional. I trust sites that I know as "main stream", and am skeptical of EVERYTHING else. Whatever a non trusted source says, I try to verify with trusted sources.

  • @chadfisher9117
    @chadfisher9117 Рік тому

    I have a question for Matt about his punt prediction model. Curious how, over time, any of the recommendations/predictions have changed? Im guessing that when it was first developed, the data was based on old school thinking about when to punt. But now that you see more teams implementing your suggested approach, have the outcomes changed at all?

    • @mlginsberg
      @mlginsberg Рік тому +1

      The decision is made by this big recursive computation, trying to maximize the chances of winning based on statistics about the outcomes of various plays. Those statistics (outcomes of specific plays) are likely pretty stable even as team philosophies change.

  • @stoneisaacs7790
    @stoneisaacs7790 Рік тому +1

    Who chooses the trusted sources

  • @Oneness100
    @Oneness100 Рік тому

    as far as using AI to create a video, recording of someone's voice, image, etc. should only be allowed for the privacy of one's home and is not allowed to be distributed, sold, posted on the internet without the premission of the original person or their estate. So, if one wants to use John Lennon's voice, image, etc. and create a new song, etc., they can do it all they want at home for their own personal enjoyment or research, but if they shouldn't be allowed to make copies, post of sell copies/original on the open market without the written permission by John Lennon or his estate and Royalties must be paid if it's allowed and it's sold.
    The thing goes with anyone famous or not.
    AI should NOT be allowed to create any form of news. PERIOD.
    Any time AI is used publicly, there should be some form of watermark or label where the viewer or listener of that AI generated content is known ahead of time that it is AI based and can't be trusted to be valid, truthful, etc.

  • @christianrajkai6917
    @christianrajkai6917 Рік тому +2

    While listining to this great conversation i asked Bard about my my own (musical) carrier, it was somewhat inacurate and told me i died in 2018 :-))

  • @truthseeker9093
    @truthseeker9093 Рік тому

    The problem is that if a coach gives commands how likely is it that the player will do it or can do it. What’s his stamina, how long has he been on the or better can he depend on the rest of the field

  • @harshgurav9268
    @harshgurav9268 Рік тому

    Neil sir i have a question as a student
    From your earlier video about time travel and twin paradox if we move at the speed of light then according to position of observer for both of them time will be different
    But what would happen if one observer is on earth and one is revolving around the earth close to speed of the light

  • @abbybryant9019
    @abbybryant9019 Рік тому

    Chuck has not missed this entire episode!!!!!

  • @DrWondertainment821
    @DrWondertainment821 Рік тому +1

    So far I only have an AI garden plant identifier but I'm very excited about expanding that into other uses.

  • @cruzvillanueva5253
    @cruzvillanueva5253 10 місяців тому

    Very interesting episode. Statistically I like most episodes.

  • @dantemlima
    @dantemlima Рік тому

    Chuck is a master at articulating the questions that must be asked!

  • @andreaqui1653
    @andreaqui1653 Рік тому

    It's an art and courtesy to place a small pause between points to keep the dialog open and allow other's to speak.

  • @timglick4850
    @timglick4850 Рік тому +1

    May I suggest two short stories by Ray Bradbury about the replacing of Humans with technology. The first is " Marionettes Incorporated ". A cautionary tale where-in we think we can control the AI but unleash our replacements who are not just satisfied to serve but plot to take our place. Second is " I sing the body electric " . Here AI does serve us well , but we become too fond of what we create . Has what we built in our likeness become capable of feelings and how do we deal with it..

  • @CyberSystemOverload
    @CyberSystemOverload 10 місяців тому

    I like what Matt said:
    "Problems are opportunities in disguise"

  • @torgado
    @torgado Рік тому

    Two emerging technologies: AI & Quantum Computing. Who is thinking about and hopefully positively influencing/limiting (before we get there) the convergence of these two tech revolutionaries over the next 5/10/20 years? Who is planning out an AI/QC security stack for governments and corporations?