Vintage, 30 Years Old Shimano 105 Groupset Restoration. Cleaning, Polishing, Greasing. Part 1.
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Retro bike parts are cool! In this project I bought a complete Shimano 105 groupset for $120 and attempted to restore its glory.
Part 1: crankset, rear derailleur,front derailleur.
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Oh man! This bring back memories 30 years ago as a college student and active in road bike racing. I was salivating and dreaming for Campagnolo groupset but the Shimano 105 was the one I can afford with my allowance and partime jobs that time. But it turned out that the 105 is the one for me. I was competitive that time. For me the performance and smooth shifting compared to a much superior Dura Ace are just the same, the only difference or advantage of the later is the weight.
I really wish Shimano and Campy would re-release some of their vintage groupsets, just call 'em Heritage Groupos. Maybe there is not enough demand for such items, but there is definitly a whole lot of competitively produced Taiwanese brands that cater to the Velo-Orange/Rivendell crowd. Imagine if someone brought back the Suntour nameplate specifically for this market! That would be awesome, I'm tired of seeing marked up ebay prices for 105 or 600 Tricolor stuff, I think UA-cam has created legions of Vintage bike tinkerers, enough so for there to be more diversity in this scene in terms of products
I concur completely with EVERYTHING that you've written here, mate...I'm about to build up all 8 of my frames that have been sitting in my garage for about a decade now, all as new or fully restored back then & I've also had 9 complete Dura Ace 7400/7402 & Mavic SSC (both groups include the full hubsets as well, being the HB-7400/FH-7403 & 571/2HG, respectively that were each the first from these brands to use the still-current Hyperglide cassettes) & if I hadn't scored all of those - all of them either NOS or as good as - at least 10 years ago, then I probably wouldn't be able to justify the prices that even the 'tricolour' stuff is now fetching on eBay!! I still have 1 1/2 complete 'tricolour' groupsets & am about to list them this week & I CANNOT FREAKING BELIEVE how much I'll get them for now...Jesus!! 2 1/2 NOS pairs of BL-6403 brake levers & they'll get about $250 AUD now, plus 3 NIP pairs of the hoods will also sell for LOTS!! I'm 100% convinced that there is still a VERY big market for a 'Heritage' range from Shimano, as you put it...slightly refined versions of the stuff from the early '90s (including downtube shifter option, because so many of these old frames still have the down tube braze-ons & plenty of my mates still LOVE using them, as do I...look at what Selle Italia & San Marco have been doing with their saddles for a number of years now, so why not the component manufacturers?
PS. Apologies for the CRAZY verbosity of this response, btw!!
Seriously I would be first in line for a “heritage” re release!!
ahh, the good old days, when you didn't have to plug in your bicycle into a wall outlet-, or have a smart phone and app just to go for a ride
I literally say this in my Instagram bio. It’s ridiculous that you have to download an app and plug components in just to ride a bike and now they cost as much as a new motorcycle -_-
good to do this during winter time
I seek out the vintage XT 7 speed drive trains. To me they work! Same as the 105. None of this stamped steel painted black crap on Tourney, Altus and Acera. Love how you took the time in bringing that vintage stuff back to life.
i had that groupset back in the day.👍
Who cares?
Worthless comment.
Luca Stefan not as worthless as yours
@@lucastefan5057 all your comments are pathetic
I still have that Gruppo on my vintage steel frame Tri bike, still works perfectly!
The hipster trend of the 2010s has left so many steel road bikes rusted, in disrepair or mutilated into single speeds ( just saw one today that simply had the cables ripped out of the RSX shifters). These were fine bikes, mostly bought on the brand recognition alone and than used up as city beaters and ruined forever. Garage finds are drying up and prices keep going up…
I saw a vintage Colnago Super hacked into a single speed in Chicago. I almost cried.
Early in lockdown, I picked up a gorgeous fillet-brazed Roberts frame custom-built for a Sigma Sports customer in Columbus EL-OS. Likely early-90s and in truly mint condition. Not 'proper vintage' but an absolutely fabulous, top-notch frame. Nobody has a copy of the original build sheet, so I built it up with a mix of Dura-Ace, Ultegra, and 105 - brifters not friction shift. Now it's just too nice to use, LOL. Oh, and I paid just over £200 for the frame...
Thank you!!! It's wonderful to be able to see how all the parts go together before I start tearing mine apart to see what is gummed up.
Now i know how to deconstruct a rear mech, nice work ! well vloged too !
I just doing this recently, my is full groupset with sti. Have a nice day
Oddly satisfying! Thanks for posting.
I still ride the same groupset. Last year I did revitalization, and its in super great condition. One thing that concerns me since i’m no bike mechanic, is that the front wheel hub has started to develop noise, like the internal lagers are rusted. That’s why I cant to see the restoration of them ;) Keep the good work up, cheers!!!
I had the very same groupset on the road bike I built up. Not once did it let me down. Once a week I would lubricate the axles with paraffin to help them run just a bit faster. Oh how I miss it.
Nice. I have an old Bianchi with a complete 1056 series groupset. Still works great.
Wow. Very detailed detailing! Thanks for sharing
Nice job man, you put a lot of effort into the task, using house hold steam cleaner and a Dremel, the original 105 was a budget group set which i feel sure was not designed to worked on to the extent you have . So well done!
Винтаж шоссейников,великолепен.
Вам,спасибо за прекрасную работу.
Успехов
THAT IS A GREAT VIDEO, please, make one more vid sligthly more focused on the rear derailier . My bike is a restored vintage, with first ed 105s( 7speed) and 8 speed brifters. is a nice combo. i restored the whole frame and introduced some mavic aksium and bontrager racing saddle to it. though still a steel frame it rides like warm blade on butter.
If this is 30 years old, it must have been sitting in a museum
You'd be surprised. A lot of Shimano kit of that era has survived in very good condition ... typically under a healthy layer of dirt.
They were not cheap when they were bought. They were very well built and the owners usually stored them indoors and treated them relatively nicely- a higher proportion of Baby Boomers and GenXers owned hand tools, and knew how to use them, as compared to our generations.
I ride with this group-set daily :)
I have a ‘90s era steel frame LeMond that I bought new in ‘95. The 105 components that came stock on the LeMond look similar to the ones in this video (pre-restoration). No bad accidents & only storing the bike inside can make a difference on how beat up / dirty / rusty the components look. My two cents. 🤙🏻
In Australia good bikes are stored in the garage away from Sun and rain. We do not get snow so most of the bikes I have are well preserved. Picked up a giant OCR series one last week left outside for the council pickup. Paint is in good condition only as slight dusting of rust on the chain. Needs new tyres.
This is amazing, do you know where can i buy that cleaning appliance?
Use a lubricant on the pulleys, the grease will gunk it up in no time. Imagine putting grease on your bike chain and how much dirt it will attract. If it’s ball bearing style like the c-record pulleys you are all good with repacking the pulleys.
Soft guy question here: did you ever consider getting a cheap ultrasonic cleaner? I believe much of that cleaning and even some of the polishing could have been replaced by giving it all 10 minutes in the ultrasonic...
I have a pinarello treviso with a shimano 105, mine is a biopace though, also a work in progress restoration job
Nice cleaning job
Nice Work 🚴👌
Mind if I ask where you got the background music from? It's so soothing.
Soothing store
I have this groupset on a vintage road bike. Are the downtube shifters only index shifting or can it be converted to friction shifting, especially for the rear derailleur?
All down tube shift levers of this era have a friction mode…the option made it possible to still be able to shift when the indexing wasn’t working well.
Felicitaciones!!!
Un gran video, buena música, amor y conocimiento del trabajo.
What is the tightening torque for the chainrings?
hi there is a video that shimano m9100 shifter works with sram eagle derailleur. can you please do a test? also can you check shimano m8000/9000 shifter with sram 11 speed derailleur? i like sram drivertrain but like shimano shifter. thank you.
I'd really like to see you put it to use on a new bike, nice job...
if you have this groupset say present.
i have, what model is the name
I have shimano 1056 R japan.
May i ask what kind/or size of Bottom bracket is applicable for to replace my old one?
Present
Present
I have 2 bikes with the immediate precursor of this group set. 1986 original SIS 6 speed freewheel system. All polished alum. It’s like jewelry. 52/42 biopace crank. 13-24 freewheel. The gear ratios are from another era, but it still works flawlessly. Bikes are both from ‘86: Miyata 712 and Centurion ‘Dave Scott Ironman Expert’.
Hello! I have the same front derailleur on my old Soviet bike. Any idea how to take the spring off AND put it back on after full service?
Iv got a lovely 30year old shimano 600 ultegra groupset with boxes that needs your t.l.c it's still on my 531 Reynolds Orbit frame
I've literally just taken my dad's 30year old Orbit out of the shed, with a view to restoring/updating for use in triathlon. Mine has the 105 groupset on, which I'm a little disappointed about because he assured me it was Dura Ace ( I think he's getting it mixed up with his old Dawes Super Galaxy) but it still super light and in great working order. Looking forward to getting some aero bars on it and getting back on the saddle. Do you still get out on yours?
@@oldleadfoot9026 no sadly not iv got a speclized secteur and a canyon aero that i don't ride ether lol
@@mreilly1325 not been spurred on by the lockdown fitness buzz then?😂 They are both nice bikes to look at anyway so who says you cant just appreciate them for their aesthetic value😂
What is that blaster you are cleaning with! I thought it was sand but that would take the parts to bare metal.
Look to me like its a one of the Kärcher steam preassure washers
Looks like a steam cleaner
Yes, it would be nice to know some details. Worthless video with nothing but lame music and no instructions, descriptions or tips.
Beautiful work!
A lots of work
Yeah so it seems. Too bad it was nothing but music and lots of grinding noise from the different power tools.
Absolutely no instructions, descriptions or tips /advice on how to restore.
No description of tools, what to do or not to do especially in regards to different components and or materials such as aluminum vs steel etc.
Worthless video.
very satisfying!
Are you cleaning with steam? What is that tool called?
[The brand name, I mean...]
Looks like a Kärcher steam cleaner
@@zaphodchak Thnk.
Awesome video!
You missed the metal parts of the shifters ?
Nice ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Awesome video. Question - where can I buy that gadget that you are using to clean all of the 105 parts in the beginning of the video? Thanks!
It is a Steam Cleaner
Hello, What is red block you use for polishing? :)
I was wondering the same thing. Too bad the video was pretty much worthless. No descriptions, tips or instructions.
It's a polishing paste that comes with the Dremel rotatory tool he uses. I hav the same one but I don't know if you can buy it under any other given name.
Hey all...please excuse my ignorance here (especially when I'm a qualified panel-beater, from Australia = a crash repairer in US, perhaps? And I've already restored a number of my steel & early carbon frames from the mid80s but I've always had someone else carry out the professional metal polishing for me before now) but at about 6:36 I see that 'SickBiker' applies some brown paste/compound upon the scrapes of a chainring before he then polishes them out with what appears to be a small polishing wheel attached to a drill...could someone please tell me what the brown paste/compound is (simply polishing compound of some sort, perhaps?) & what type of polishing wheel that is that's used upon the drill?
Thanks so much, in advance, to someone, anyone who is able to assist me here!
It’s a cutting and or polishing compound. Get on Amazon and type that in and it will come up.
@@sambo1682 Seriously?! That's really all that this is? I'm a panel beater by trade (5 years working at a Honda dealership to complete my apprenticeship back in the '90s, so I've certainly used plenty of cutters in my time, that's for sure!) but I never would have believed that that was all that was being used in this great rest' video! Thanks heaps, mate & cheers & best wishes from 'Down Under'...Matt.
I’m a year late, but I am pretty sure it is Dremel’s polishing compound. He’s using a Dremel rotary tool, and that’s what their main polishing compound looks like.
Ain't it cute
what do you use for lubricants?
Looks like Shimano branded grease
Trinta anos atrás as bikes ainda usavam alavancas de mudança no quadro, portanto este grupo não pode ter trinta anos.
Esse grupo de 105 foi lançado em 89, então na época da postagem do vídeo já tinha 30 anos desde o lançamento (que é o mesmo ano de lançamento do sistema STI).
As ditas alavancas estão á vista no video ( 4:21 na mesa á direita do crankset).
don't polish the axle
What's the song at 14:53? :)
What is that paste he’s using ?
I think he is using Dremel’s polishing compound. He appears to be polishing the parts with a Dremel brand rotary tool, and I think he is using the cloth polishing wheel. Although he might be using the felt polishing wheel, I can’t quite tell. Dremel sells rotary tools which come with assortments of their different bits, but you can also buy kits that include bits typically used for the same type of work. Or, you can buy individual bits, and I believe the polishing compound is also sold individually.
Ok,I think I'll leave this as I don't have obsessive compulsive cleaning disorder.
😍😍😍👍
That outer chainring looked pretty worn to me...
Polishing the reardrlaer??? Don't you have something alse to do?
Interesting but odd choice for this much effort. As someone who raced back then, I can tell you that 105 was never considered beautiful. It was essentially what you might get when you first started racing because it was on the cheapest race-level bike you could afford. It performed okay, not great.
$120 for a vintage 105? What a rip off! Got mine for $35, wheels included, and in better condition!
He didn't get ripped off, you got lucky. That's a reasonable price.
This is not even close to restoration..
Why u think so?
I'm the type of guy who would just rather buy new stuff.
Nice video... just don't talk... u are annoying when you talk... show us like this ... don't tell us... thanks
It's so satisfying to watch you lovingly restore the parts back to it's former glory. :-)