Everything you need to know to read Homer's "Odyssey" - Jill Dash

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    An encounter with a man-eating giant. A sorceress who turns men into pigs. A long-lost king taking back his throne. On their own, any of these make great stories. But each is just one episode in the "Odyssey," a 12,000-line poem spanning years of ancient Greek history and legend. So how do we make sense of this massive text? Jill Dash shares everything you need to know to read Homer's "Odyssey.”
    Lesson by Jill Dash, animation by David Price.

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  • @alexadimitriadou3974
    @alexadimitriadou3974 7 років тому +2095

    Here in Greece, in 7th grade the Odyssey is a subject like maths, geogrphy etc. To be honest , in my opinion it is the most enjoyable and fun subject of all !

    • @off-topic4242
      @off-topic4242 2 роки тому +46

      You guys read it in the original Homeric language? Then all of Greeks should know Ancient greek, which is not the case.

    • @carolinarodrigues118
      @carolinarodrigues118 2 роки тому +32

      that sounds amazing omg

    • @Isabella-no1kh
      @Isabella-no1kh 2 роки тому +114

      Same thing in Italy- in 6th and 9th grade we have a subject called “Epica” in which we study the Iliad, Odyssey and Aeneid

    • @epycadventures
      @epycadventures 2 роки тому +33

      Same in Lebanon- we had "L'histoire de Mediterran" History of the Mediterranean 6th-9th grade. Ancient Greece was huge part of our projects, same with Roman, and Crusades.

    • @lamar6431
      @lamar6431 2 роки тому +7

      @@epycadventures ur rlly lucky then, in my school, we’ve only taken about the history (briefly) of the caliphate till the ottomans. But then again, in outer schll we start taking history at 7th grade, and last ya (7th grade) was my first time taking history class, so we might just take them later on. I rlly hope lol

  • @alexthelizardking
    @alexthelizardking 7 років тому +1062

    how would Odysseus react if someone told him how small the Mediterranean Sea really was?

    • @CrossbowmcChicken
      @CrossbowmcChicken 3 роки тому +5

      Lol

    • @JohnNobody_
      @JohnNobody_ 3 роки тому

      😂

    • @mustafabarzanji9280
      @mustafabarzanji9280 3 роки тому +93

      it may be a small body of saltwater, but the influence the region of the mediterranean-middle east has had on the world is beyond measure

    • @odeleon24
      @odeleon24 2 роки тому +7

      I know this is a cliché but this is really an underrated comment!

    • @PlanetIscandar
      @PlanetIscandar 2 роки тому +19

      *alex thelizardking* Who said that Odysseus considered the Mediterranean to be that large? He spent most of his 10-years trip as a guest/prisoner in nymph Calypso and in witch Circe (at least 7+1 years).

  • @Dimetropteryx
    @Dimetropteryx 7 років тому +2066

    That moment when you realize that nothing you'll ever write will be remembered 2800 years from now.

    • @oliviacorey8712
      @oliviacorey8712 4 роки тому +71

      yea, cause the worlds gonna end way before that

    • @paradisecityX0
      @paradisecityX0 4 роки тому +28

      Mine will be. It's a revitalization of a classic

    • @joshuaemanuelmichaelmassop119
      @joshuaemanuelmichaelmassop119 4 роки тому +8

      That's False.

    • @kookykats6834
      @kookykats6834 4 роки тому +133

      well im reading this 3 years from when you wrote it so thats a start

    • @connie6738
      @connie6738 4 роки тому +23

      EasternSharqii what? Where’s your evidence for this lol? Books have survived several thousand years, they’ll survive much longer

  • @ShawnRavenfire
    @ShawnRavenfire 7 років тому +316

    After the ruins of Troy were discovered, the descriptions turned out to be amazingly accurate. It makes me wonder just how much of the rest of the stories were historically accurate.

    • @lil_vault_boy4201
      @lil_vault_boy4201 7 років тому +9

      Shawn Ravenfire Christ.Scary to think this all happened.

    • @krissygaming5818
      @krissygaming5818 5 років тому +25

      Shawn Ravenfire Troy was never found. Schliemann the architects claimed it was but the dates don’t match up nor was he a great architect which is shown by his excavations in Pompeii and Herculaneum which weren’t well preserved because he was lazy. He claimed a lot of things and that he found stuff but suddenly it went “missing”. It could of happened but if you’ve ever read the illiad I seriously doubt it.

    • @starstruckeed
      @starstruckeed 9 місяців тому +5

      i feel like the “gods” in greek mythology were important people maybe once and just oversimplified into gods that have powers because they were very noble people or something

    • @artofwrick
      @artofwrick Місяць тому +1

      Even the walls that are fabled to be built by the gods are intact. *the sloping walls

  • @ricardomrv9409
    @ricardomrv9409 7 років тому +962

    So in the Ancient Greece, I could just get in a house and they would treat me like a guest?

    • @user-wg2ih9hp6g
      @user-wg2ih9hp6g 7 років тому +135

      Ricardo MRV They had to, if they didn't want the Gods to punish them

    • @ricardomrv9409
      @ricardomrv9409 7 років тому +68

      So in that time period, there was no need for hotel for example?

    • @andreasi8741
      @andreasi8741 7 років тому +70

      Actually the guest exchanges gifts and becomes usually a friend with the person who welcomes him/her.

    • @user-wg2ih9hp6g
      @user-wg2ih9hp6g 7 років тому +22

      There were not hotels, nor anything like that, so they should be hospitalized by the owners of the houses they runned into

    • @user-wg2ih9hp6g
      @user-wg2ih9hp6g 7 років тому +30

      Captain Alpha If the guest didnt have anything on him at the time he usually return after some years to pay back, or helped in every way needed those who once helped them

  • @persephone9702
    @persephone9702 7 років тому +815

    I love Greek culture, mythology, and history. Wish I were from there and wish I could go there. I am actually named after the goddess Persephone.

    • @lyla0775
      @lyla0775 5 років тому +88

      Persephone that’s such a beautiful name

    • @Thessaloz
      @Thessaloz 5 років тому +34

      Beautiful name indeed.

    • @TlhomphoDitedu
      @TlhomphoDitedu 5 років тому +10

      Nice to meet you dr of Demeter :) I hope you don’t actually have to marry hades haha

    • @brya9681
      @brya9681 4 роки тому +31

      One of the few greek godess with a happy marriage

    • @Thlormby
      @Thlormby 4 роки тому +24

      I’m named after the philosopher Aristotle. Ancient Greece is so cool to me.

  • @turun_ambartanen
    @turun_ambartanen 7 років тому +940

    i would recommend ancient Greek to start with.

    • @user-wg2ih9hp6g
      @user-wg2ih9hp6g 7 років тому +10

      Turun Ambartanen nah

    • @lancelotray
      @lancelotray 6 років тому +2

      exactly, i am now confused.. 'm starting my historical journey from greek civilization.

    • @sofiasarigiannidi8708
      @sofiasarigiannidi8708 6 років тому +12

      Turun Ambartanen actually even if you learn ancient Greek you will most probably impossible to understand it because it is quite old ancient Greek and it is not usually taught anywhere.

    • @maxgeiger9387
      @maxgeiger9387 6 років тому +6

      Sofia Sarigiannidi That is just bs

    • @fabi-fe2uw
      @fabi-fe2uw 6 років тому +5

      yup, i am translating parts of the odyssey in school right now and its very similar to the ancient greek you get taught, ignoring some differences like for example missing contractions or some changed word endings - but it is definitely understandable

  • @henrydavies8564
    @henrydavies8564 7 років тому +696

    The Iliad is not the story of the Trojan war! It is a story set during the Trojan war. It assumes the listener (reader) already knows the story of the Trojan war and it is just about Achilles dealing with the death of his friend during the siege of Troy.

    • @rojdarbandy1014
      @rojdarbandy1014 5 років тому +32

      Henry Davies True, he told 51 days of the 10 years of war

    • @brya9681
      @brya9681 4 роки тому +166

      *boyfriend

    • @connie6738
      @connie6738 4 роки тому +16

      Its not, but translated, it does literally mean ‘Story of Troy’ and is based during the Trojan war, which does have an impact on many of the storylines. It’s not wrong to call it that.

    • @sophielayden7213
      @sophielayden7213 4 роки тому +42

      I heard an interesting theory from the channel OverlySarcasticProductions that the Iliad isn’t a story of the Trojan war, but of Achilles’ rage, because it (almost) starts with Achilles getting angry that Agamemnon took Briseis, and ends (once again, roughly) with Achilles controlling his anger and letting Priam take Hector’s body. I thought that idea was really cool.

    • @connie6738
      @connie6738 4 роки тому +43

      Sophie Layden In the original text, the first word is actually ‘rage’ referencing the rage of Achilles. It’s not really a theory as it’s in almost every study of the Iliad there is, but you’re absolutely right about it!

  • @the_black_swordsman7184
    @the_black_swordsman7184 3 роки тому +28

    Even today, good hospitality and giving gifts is a big part of visiting someone’s home or celebrations. We take that stuff super seriously.

    • @prettypinky6943
      @prettypinky6943 2 роки тому +1

      That's Christmas with family and friends we known. Greeks did it with strangers.
      Today, we are brainwashed with the horror movies of letting a stranger in your house will get you killed. So we all believe everyone is out to get us. No way we will let a stranger into our home! No matter how well dressed and well behaved they may be.

  • @giorgoschiras7736
    @giorgoschiras7736 7 років тому +514

    I live in greece and in my school We do the oddysey as a lesson

    • @sheet-music
      @sheet-music 7 років тому +47

      So i live in russia and in my school We do the odyssey as an exam

    • @user-wg2ih9hp6g
      @user-wg2ih9hp6g 7 років тому +19

      Margarita Babovnikova well, we take exams for every lesson we take, so..

    • @JamesBradlee1
      @JamesBradlee1 7 років тому +6

      And it used to be a final but now finals are just core subjects

    • @sheet-music
      @sheet-music 7 років тому +1

      Κατερίνα Ρ. lesson is a a period of learning or teaching that 45-120 minutes long

    • @user-wg2ih9hp6g
      @user-wg2ih9hp6g 7 років тому +3

      Margarita Babovnikova then subject it is. Those terms stand for the same thing in greek, I forgot it changes when it comes to english 😅

  • @kumatoraabomination
    @kumatoraabomination 7 років тому +1444

    I'll just play Super Mario Odyssey when it's released.

  • @theodoreandreou7051
    @theodoreandreou7051 7 років тому +610

    I'm Greek. So proud of my history.

    • @starcharmed
      @starcharmed 7 років тому +26

      Same here, my friend. Greece has a majestic history

    • @war6139
      @war6139 7 років тому +21

      Theodore Andreou
      such a shame what's going on now. Hopefully it gets better

    • @jungkooksbeautifulvoice7326
      @jungkooksbeautifulvoice7326 7 років тому +5

      Theodore Andreou ωπ Ελλάδαααα

    • @giorgoschiras7736
      @giorgoschiras7736 7 років тому +2

      Theodore Andreou Για σ ελληνα!

    • @rafaelsot01
      @rafaelsot01 7 років тому +7

      Theodore Andreou dude, you have an amazing culture!

  • @KwnsatntinosSta
    @KwnsatntinosSta 6 років тому +33

    One very small correction. The Illiad is not about the Trojan War. It's about Achilleus' rage, which takes place and occurs due to the Trojan War. We learn about the end of the war from other poets.

  • @Jaquan1254
    @Jaquan1254 7 років тому +122

    I'd like to see an in-depth analysis of H.P. Lovecraft's works.

  • @George-xb5ey
    @George-xb5ey 2 місяці тому +1

    I had the chance and visited Homer's school on the island of Ithaki a few months ago. It was so peaceful and inspiring to walk amongst the ruins in which great minds shared knowledge. I can't wait to go back and spend more time.

  • @alfonsoparedes322
    @alfonsoparedes322 7 років тому +16

    There are several approaches; fictional, historical, social, psychological, metaphysical all of them worth figuring out!!! Love it.

  • @beckettherbert6544
    @beckettherbert6544 6 місяців тому +3

    “It helps to have some background before jumping in” tell that to my Freshman English teacher who assigned this immediately without explanation.

  • @kwn3134
    @kwn3134 7 років тому +48

    I am from greece.We do it for 1 year as a lesson.Yes,it has lots of things that you must explain to understand it well,but you can finish it easily with a teacher next to you.

  • @SheIsTristine
    @SheIsTristine 6 років тому +19

    Love the graphics and the breakdown of the story. We just got done reading the majority of the story before we had to return the book to the library.

  • @avevee9708
    @avevee9708 7 років тому +33

    We read the odyssey last year in my second year of high school. It is beautiful.

  • @TalesfromWeirdland
    @TalesfromWeirdland 7 років тому +21

    The animation in these videos is always so nifty and inventive.

  • @loobasim1903
    @loobasim1903 2 роки тому +10

    Never in my life have i been this fascinated by a narrator before!! Hope u r having a good day ma'am, you and your soothing voice ❤️

  • @blackoutgaming3456
    @blackoutgaming3456 7 років тому +340

    I literally just finished reading The odyssey about a month ago

    • @xPrinceOfHellxxx
      @xPrinceOfHellxxx 7 років тому +4

      hard but nice book to read good job..

    • @PinkShoesAreSnazzy
      @PinkShoesAreSnazzy 7 років тому +3

      LOL what was that, 9th grade english? or 10th grade? and if i remember correctly we only had to read less than half of the epic, which doesn't count as reading it.

    • @blackoutgaming3456
      @blackoutgaming3456 7 років тому

      PinkShoesAreSnazzy AP English 12. idependent reading assignment for semester 1

    • @benspahiu7675
      @benspahiu7675 7 років тому

      Me too... And tomorrow I've got a test about it... what a coincidence

    • @gav7497
      @gav7497 7 років тому

      Blackout Gaming me too, but now I have to read Richard the III

  • @flyingpenandpaper6119
    @flyingpenandpaper6119 7 років тому +167

    1. you need to know how to read
    2. that's it, you can read the Odyssey

    • @thejoyofreading7661
      @thejoyofreading7661 4 роки тому +4

      exactly.

    • @kayaeki
      @kayaeki 4 роки тому +4

      okay, im gonna start

    • @oliviacorey8712
      @oliviacorey8712 4 роки тому +17

      you can read it, but understanding it is a whole other challenge

    • @hypn9s1s
      @hypn9s1s 4 роки тому +8

      Umm...yes now you can read it but you can't understand it. You obviously haven't read it but ok

    • @judasseispuertos4163
      @judasseispuertos4163 3 роки тому +2

      If they don't know how to read, your comment isn't helpful

  • @user-cr3pn7rk2v
    @user-cr3pn7rk2v 7 років тому +340

    Do the Ramayana, Mahabharata, Journey to the west or some Asian story please

    • @sayantanpaul626
      @sayantanpaul626 6 років тому +5

      檀 杏斗 can you tell me about the ancient east epics?

    • @dipro001
      @dipro001 5 років тому +9

      I would cry for a series covering south asian stuff.

    • @purvipatil5924
      @purvipatil5924 5 років тому +2

      Yes

    • @chambeet
      @chambeet 5 років тому +3

      Some day I’d love to read those! The Dreams of the Red Chamber one, too!

    • @bhushangawali81
      @bhushangawali81 5 років тому +5

      @@sayantanpaul626 hey watch this ua-cam.com/video/KvwpF_aMgBA/v-deo.html for info on Mahabharata . It's far larger than that tho but this gives a jist .

  • @Ericwest1000
    @Ericwest1000 2 роки тому +8

    Wow, I appreciate all of the knowledge and research that you've done for us!

  • @zipline39s
    @zipline39s 11 місяців тому +6

    the odyssey had a purpose

    • @sashagornostay2188
      @sashagornostay2188 10 місяців тому +1

      Spread Outism outside the fandom, Hero

    • @zipline39s
      @zipline39s 10 місяців тому

      @@sashagornostay2188 im doing my best 🫡

  • @cockycookie1
    @cockycookie1 3 роки тому +7

    This book is amazing tbh.
    I don't read much but I've always loved this one.

  • @dukeofmars4847
    @dukeofmars4847 2 роки тому +9

    I would love to see you give this treatment to 'the curious incident of the dog in the night-time'. The way the book is written alone will make for some great visuals.

  • @laurenmutch3246
    @laurenmutch3246 4 роки тому +230

    Who else has to do this for online school

    • @wolfganggiele3787
      @wolfganggiele3787 4 роки тому +2

      Lauren Mutch me

    • @tonyminehan2323
      @tonyminehan2323 4 роки тому +19

      Lauren Mutch I was never that lucky, my school didn't believe in classics, I had to discover Homer for myself, gentle encouragement to my daughter inspired her to delve more deeply into the subject to the point where she graduated from university as a classical scholar, leaving in her wake an enormously proud father. She is now at teacher training college with the hope of inspiring others in the same subject.

    • @joshualklein
      @joshualklein 4 роки тому +1

      me

    • @theoldsarcasticpineapple
      @theoldsarcasticpineapple 4 роки тому +1

      me

    • @dr_coconut5531
      @dr_coconut5531 4 роки тому

      How did u know?!

  • @alexanderSydneyOz
    @alexanderSydneyOz 2 роки тому +33

    As I have just finished reading this work. My random thoughts, in the context of this video, are these:
    *It is oft said, but barely half true to say that Odysseus' troubled path home was because he blinded the cyclops, Polyphemus. While it is true that Poseidon, his dad, raised storms a number of times, he only knew the name of the perpetrator, because Polyphemus told him. Odysseus initially told Polyphemus that his name was "Noman", but rashly and advised otherwise by his own men, blurted out his real name, after having escaped, just boast to, and taunt, the now very angry Polythemus. Were it not for that, Poseidon would not have known whom to assail. Mistake #1. Then only in the next chapter, Aeolus sends his ships by favorable wind, to within sight of Ithaca, by wrapping all the unfavorable winds in bags. But Odysseus men let them out of the bag at which they were all sent back off into the sea. Mistake #2. It is more correct to say that Odysseus own boastful arrogance caused his troubles, rather than the blinding of Polyphemus per se.
    *"Xenia" may well have been contemporaneously considered a wise hedge against insulting gods in human form, but sometimes such tales are just grand stories of convenience, masking a more practical reason. In this case, consider that Greece is a large area with a vast number of islands and only partially connected city states. I think anyone can readily see that travelling around Greece, would have presented significant problems remaining fed and provisioned, especially when there was alot of sailing involved. I take the whole idea of Xenia as a pragmatic sense of mutual benefit dressed up with this story about not offending gods.
    *while the story is highly entertaining (though the latter chapters do drag somewhat) if I ponder what is the overall purpose and message of the work, in the context of the time, I would say it is "Don't touch my stuff while I'm gone". Kings of city states leaving on military adventures seems was common enough, and absenting yourself and your armed followers, is an obvious risk of overthrow. What better way to terrorise those who remain into leaving the queen, the wealth, and the position of ruler, alone, other than by a/ enshrining in tradition that you are likely to turn up unexpectedly and kill them all, and b/ that the gods really won't be on their side? Most readers here will know Agamemnon's fate when he returned. All, up have concluded that to be the main theme and purpose: no matter how long I am gone, fear me and my return. I could even be 20 years....
    *Lastly, my suggestion for reading it: *every time you read a reference to any other character from mythology, look them up. Easily done if you use a Kindle or Kindle app. That will ultimately furnish you with a good idea about greek mythology's most important stories. All the more if you read The Iliad first, as did I, and apply the same strategy.
    *Before you start (alas, I did not), write a list of all the pantheon, including both their greek and latin names. The version I read used them both, randomly! Note particularly that Pallas, Minerva and Athena are the same goddess.

    • @TheLadyDelirium
      @TheLadyDelirium Рік тому +2

      That's helpful advice, thank you. Especially the parts about some God's being known by different names.

    • @isabelbowers6622
      @isabelbowers6622 Рік тому

      which version did you read??

    • @tylerwilson2515
      @tylerwilson2515 11 місяців тому +2

      A version that has Latin and Greek versions of the gods at random is a terrible idea that insights unnecessary confusion. That’s awful haha

  • @masonsteven77
    @masonsteven77 3 роки тому +3

    This is the best narrator I've ever heard. Phenomenal Cheers

  • @doymala2407
    @doymala2407 6 років тому +6

    i love when you make videos about books and novels. im sad when there are just 9 video about books

  • @ssam00
    @ssam00 7 років тому +37

    A lot of this applies to the Mahbharata and Ramayana --- which are longer and far more wide spread than Homer's epics. Would appreciate a video on them.

    • @alexanderSydneyOz
      @alexanderSydneyOz 2 роки тому

      "At about 1.8 million words in total, the Mahābhārata is roughly ten times the length of the Iliad and the Odyssey combined, or about four times the length of the Rāmāyaṇa.". Yes, a video precis sounds like a good option....

    • @Mystic_Moon28
      @Mystic_Moon28 2 роки тому +5

      Nah, I think Illiad and Odyssey is more widespread even if people didn't read all of those books they at least know about the trojan war. Popular media made that famous.

    • @alexanderSydneyOz
      @alexanderSydneyOz 2 роки тому +1

      @@Mystic_Moon28 the existence of the Iliad and The Odyssey is definitely fairly well-known in western culture but you will be hard pushed to find anyone in personal life who had read either or had any idea about the story lines. Likewise the Trojan war... some know of it, and the story about the horse, but that is it.

    • @key37raminus
      @key37raminus Рік тому +1

      @@alexanderSydneyOz yeah but I've never heard of these supposedly more widespread works mentioned

  • @Ryan-iz5pq
    @Ryan-iz5pq 7 років тому +115

    Anyone else here before they start showing this in classrooms?

  • @ahnabellasmith9573
    @ahnabellasmith9573 6 років тому +6

    I’ve read the Iliad and the Odyssey around 4 times in the past three years (I had a phrase where I loved Ancient Greek history). And every single time I get confused by the wording.

  • @dejected107
    @dejected107 5 років тому +4

    I would love to watch a modern remake of the Odyssey right now

  • @magistrumartium
    @magistrumartium 6 років тому +4

    Great book. I loved it.

  • @romankazinets1759
    @romankazinets1759 5 років тому +1

    Ulyyses is a shortened and more comprehensible version. It sums it up well.

  • @Tsanislav
    @Tsanislav 7 років тому +155

    The Sirens are half birds, not mermaids.

    • @AlphabetCookie
      @AlphabetCookie 7 років тому +26

      Yeah I think the difference between sirens and harpies are that sirens are beautiful bird women who sing enchanting songs of wisdom to lure sailors to their death; harpies are ugly bird women who steal food and eat some people.

    • @ab-ul1yz
      @ab-ul1yz 6 років тому +1

      Abc Abc The I read on an Italian newspaper that syrens became half fishes in Naples (which has been Greek for some centuries). Clearly a syren that is half bird is more similar to a harpy

    • @Ordo.Corinthivm
      @Ordo.Corinthivm 3 роки тому +1

      The original Sirens from Greek mythology are indeed half human and half bird. But through time the adaptation of sirens changes, in the middle ages, sirens commonly believed as half human and half fish.

  • @ZachMikeMoller
    @ZachMikeMoller 6 років тому +4

    I would suggest getting someone who knows something about the Odyssey to write the script for such a talk. What we have here are scraps of fact in a framework of misconception about the poem and the poet.
    Just a few examples.
    Homer - to give the poet a name - thinks he is telling listener about how a clever man managed to get home. The poem starts at the beginning of the story - on Calypso's island - and recounts how he made it to an island where he received help. There he recited the story of his wanderings which is not what the story is about. The wanderings are a background to the man which illustrate his cleverness. The man gets home, finds his kingdom about to be taken over, and, with the help of his son and a few people loyal to him, how he manages to regain his rightful place. Aristotle gives roughly the same summary.
    The Iliad is not about the Trojan War. It is about an event which cover approximately six ekes in the 10th year of the war. There was a quarrel between the chief commander of the Greek forces and one of the sub-commanders. Because of the quarrel, the offended person withdraws from the fighting - and the Greeks begin to lose heavily - but is persuaded to return to battle after his close friend is killed. He kills the man who killed his friend and humiliates the man's family - the king of Troy - by not allowing the body to be buried properly. The killed man's father comes to the Greek man, and begs him to return the body, The Greek man does so, covered with shame at his behaviour. After this, he makes his peace with the commander and the two of them discuss why it is that people who should know better behave so stupidly and shamefully. One incident. Six weeks in the 10th year. No mention of why the war started, or how it is expected to end. A powerful story of irrational behaviour and the mystery of why this behaviour appears.
    And I could go on. This video is just silly.

  • @beatrice25511
    @beatrice25511 5 років тому +5

    In Italy in 9th grade we have to read homer’s poems and in 10th grade the Aeneid... I love the them :)

    • @tsiaa6790
      @tsiaa6790 2 роки тому

      sam here in Greece. But wee have to start learning homeric greek in grade 7... 😭 😭

  • @yvonne530
    @yvonne530 2 місяці тому +1

    The works of the great poet, Homer, are filled with words that not only survive in Albanian, but continue to be used. From Homer you can get not only words, but also phrases that possess all the signs of a typical Albanian expression. If someone were to interpret Homer from the Albanian language perspective, much light would be shed on the works of that famous poet. Between Homeric and Albanian sentences there is a striking resemblance in expression, phraseology and sentence structure. A study of this nature would help interpret Homer, since the Albanian language is older than that of Greece (Scienc Magazine 2023), much can be learned about the influence of this [Albanian] on Homeric and later Greek.
    Title: Unconquerable Albania
    Author : Christ Anton Lepon
    Publisher: Chicago, Albanian Liberation Committee, 1944

  • @unfiniche
    @unfiniche 15 днів тому +2

    there is an incredible musical based on the odyssey!
    its still a wip, but i love it very much.
    (its called epic the musical and it's being written by jorge herrans if you're interested)

    • @comfortagwu6778
      @comfortagwu6778 13 днів тому +1

      that musical is the whole reason i'm watching this video

  • @yurisenglishdiary
    @yurisenglishdiary 3 роки тому +3

    나는 호메로스의 오디세이아를 읽고 있습니다.
    호메로스 보러 왔는데, 한글 자막이 멋집니다.
    전문가가 번역하셨나봅니다.
    영상도 설명도 매우 멋집니다.
    감사합니다.
    I am reading Homer's Odyssey.
    I came to see Homer, and the Korean subtitles are great.
    It must have been translated by an expert.
    The video and explanation are very nice.
    Thank you.

  • @maryschoon.4222
    @maryschoon.4222 2 роки тому +6

    I'm reading it in 4th grade, and it is AMAZING. By far one of the best books in my opinion. After I finish it, I'm reading Ulysses.

    • @veniqe
      @veniqe 10 місяців тому

      Yeah, sure

    • @filipefernandes870
      @filipefernandes870 9 місяців тому

      Ulysses is the same guy, just the latin name the Romans gave him. Actually Lisboa(Lisbon) is according to legend named after Ulysses, the name has changed through time, but it used to be Olissipo and before that unsure, but maybe Odysipolis??? Last one is a wiiild guess.

  • @juanpablomina1346
    @juanpablomina1346 7 років тому +23

    I'm curious. Which epic do people prefer, the _Iliad_ or the _Odyssey_?

    • @juanpablomina1346
      @juanpablomina1346 7 років тому +1

      ***** So you like them both just as much?

    • @SoleNero21
      @SoleNero21 7 років тому +13

      Juan Pablo Mina definitely illiad, it was a different experience to read it and I believe anyone can enjoy it if they're a bit patient or somewhat not a mainstream media kid

    • @juanpablomina1346
      @juanpablomina1346 7 років тому +7

      SoleNero21 I agree with you. The _Odyssey_ is good, don't get me wrong, but the _Iliad_ is just so much better... Alas, it's not for everyone. I have a reader friend who just couldn't get into it. We've both read _A Song of Ice and Fire_ and _The Accursed Kings_, but he just couldn't read Homer.

    • @alexadimitriadou3974
      @alexadimitriadou3974 7 років тому +9

      Juan Pablo Mina I prefer the Iliad, I am from Greece and here the Odyssey is a subject in 7th grade and the Iliad in 8th grade... So because I know both "stories" I can say that the Illiad is sooo much more interesting and has suspense....

    • @juanpablomina1346
      @juanpablomina1346 7 років тому +1

      Alexa Dimitriadou How come you study the sequel before?

  • @sunspot5080
    @sunspot5080 7 років тому +6

    We had to read The Odyssey last year and I hated it at first but now I regret slacking off on that project, it's such a wonderful story

  • @raeanna33
    @raeanna33 7 років тому +16

    Great video! Perfect timing too--I'm currently reading The Odyssey for my Epic class 😊

  • @kaitlyntran7554
    @kaitlyntran7554 7 років тому +3

    Oh my English class read this last year! Too bad I didn't see this when we read it. Great video though!

  • @albertoclarkson8348
    @albertoclarkson8348 2 роки тому

    Actually Rhapsodes comes from the Greek verb rhapto which means to mend, so the oral poets are not the rhapsodes but Aedi, the rhapsodes were the ones who used to basically triscribed the oral poems

  • @riyascorner9198
    @riyascorner9198 3 роки тому +7

    Homer: Bruh I’m real I-

  • @dizzy8681
    @dizzy8681 Рік тому +10

    this is like one piece but with an ending

  • @DamyonsMusicHut
    @DamyonsMusicHut 7 років тому +24

    I don't now why I kept laughing at 3:38

  • @CuongMai-fi1fs
    @CuongMai-fi1fs Місяць тому +2

    Exellent decision manager 🗣️🗣️

  • @leovaldez4093
    @leovaldez4093 7 років тому +1

    funny thing is my English class started the Odyssey a week ago so this is pretty useful

  • @krist3nkerr
    @krist3nkerr 5 років тому +5

    My first week of uni we were expected to read the oddessy in a week (we didn’t even have summer reading lists) it was brutal

    • @tsiaa6790
      @tsiaa6790 2 роки тому +1

      we have to read it for grade 9 in homeric greek in Greece.. save me 😭 😭 😭 😭

  • @originalhgc
    @originalhgc 7 років тому +31

    It's interesting that your illustrations would picture the Trojan Horse when referencing The Iliad, when The Iliad does not encompass that event.

  • @frisbeeeater
    @frisbeeeater 7 років тому +1

    I love this narrator!!

  • @taheryounis3662
    @taheryounis3662 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you! This was really helpful

  • @alexlee2581
    @alexlee2581 7 років тому +5

    I'm reading this right now :O what a surprise

  • @kamalindsey
    @kamalindsey 2 роки тому +3

    It is interesting how gods disguised as humans wandering the earth repeats a lot in European and Indo-Arian myth. Like Odin the Wanderer was very similar in the north, we had people here in the north who were like Irish travelers (tatter) and would ask to sleep in your barn, and courtesy would be to let them because they could be Odin in disguise.

  • @MG-fb4yj
    @MG-fb4yj 7 років тому

    We had to read the Odyssey and do an exam for classic culture, so it's cool to see this after

  • @DreadCore_
    @DreadCore_ 7 років тому +1

    Thanks for making this like a week after we finished reading it ;-;

  • @gingin3919
    @gingin3919 7 років тому +28

    Greeks own the greatest civilization in the world and they are so cool people I have many Greek friends they are great

  • @ushanandini.r4143
    @ushanandini.r4143 2 роки тому +7

    I just feel Indian Mythology infact is as detailed and profound as Greek mythology. But surprised that internationally under rated. I would love to Research on the underlying reasons for this. And if you are reading this and you just Believe in the joy of stories,do check out Indian myths while I go on to explore Greek for now😍🥰

    • @Prophezora
      @Prophezora 2 роки тому

      Its because the West is Best...lol I kid, but it's probably just the global influence of the Western World in...well...the West.

  • @QueeneAllie
    @QueeneAllie 11 місяців тому +1

    Oooh I never caught that Odysseus was the constant guest, while Penelope was a constant hostess. Interesting.

  • @abheekpandya8717
    @abheekpandya8717 7 років тому

    I loved this book.

  • @lgainza9247
    @lgainza9247 7 років тому +7

    Dude this would have been sooo useful about a week ago

  • @shappy60
    @shappy60 7 років тому +15

    Personally prefer the Iliad and Virgil's Aeneid, but the Odyssee is great

  • @HomeworkH8
    @HomeworkH8 5 років тому +2

    0:32 the real question is where can I get a piece of paper that long

  • @jaggergarcia7390
    @jaggergarcia7390 7 років тому +1

    Literally took a test on it today. Could've used this last night

  • @williamlag7939
    @williamlag7939 7 років тому +4

    Actually rhapsodes did actually read the things they were singing, it was the aoidoi that just sang the poems

    • @femkevandewalle2189
      @femkevandewalle2189 5 років тому +1

      Weren't the rapsodes the one "stringing songs together"?

  • @prathameshkale9011
    @prathameshkale9011 7 років тому +6

    please do Mahabharata

  • @mylesvalentin-capiral6743
    @mylesvalentin-capiral6743 4 роки тому +1

    "made for listeners rather than readers" agree, got more out of this in the Claire Danes audio book than when I read in uni

  • @matthewweiner3361
    @matthewweiner3361 7 років тому +1

    You should do a war book like all quiet on the western front or Oedipus Rex is pretty cool

  • @davidstone9981
    @davidstone9981 2 роки тому +3

    Useful and entertaining video. Thanks! One minor correction: mnemonic isn't pronounced 'numonic' (1:40)

  • @JohannesBurbach
    @JohannesBurbach 7 років тому +8

    I'm so glad you can leave voice messages as comments now!!!
    ▶ 🔘──────── 00:13

  • @user-xp7ck1us9k
    @user-xp7ck1us9k Рік тому

    Great job! My students said that this video SLAYS!

  • @adoredpariah
    @adoredpariah 6 років тому +1

    Epics were originally meant to be read aloud to listeners? Well that explains why I love professionally voiced audiobooks so much more than reading text when it comes to fiction and historical/mythological perspectives.

  • @corinthianshinobi3215
    @corinthianshinobi3215 6 років тому +5

    As a Greek I can positively say that homer was a real person and the alphabet was a thing then . The Odyssey was composed during the 8th century b.c but refers to the 12th . There are written scripts in the Greek dialect they spoke back then . Get better info .

    • @enemyofthesun
      @enemyofthesun 2 роки тому

      YES and I was just reading the intro to the Fagles version of the Odyssey in english and it was contradicting some of the things in this video. this video sucks!

  • @faintsherin4468
    @faintsherin4468 7 років тому +3

    Fufufu Penelope really enjoyed her hosting career 👌

  • @timhertens8502
    @timhertens8502 Рік тому +2

    The first Shonen ever written

  • @VEE727
    @VEE727 7 років тому

    Sounds like a great story. No movie on it yet?

  • @hendrikvandenbroek57
    @hendrikvandenbroek57 7 років тому +89

    You are probably not going to believe this but I (a 15y old boy) have translated and read 1/4 of the Odyssee already. Its quite hard tbh. Btw I am Dutch

    • @user-wg2ih9hp6g
      @user-wg2ih9hp6g 7 років тому

      Hendrik van den Broek wait what? from the original text?

    • @hendrikvandenbroek57
      @hendrikvandenbroek57 7 років тому +1

      Κατερίνα Ρ. yeah I'll send a picture

    • @hendrikvandenbroek57
      @hendrikvandenbroek57 7 років тому +6

      gyazo.com/39236fe2df538aea8e303232af163d2f

    • @xPrinceOfHellxxx
      @xPrinceOfHellxxx 7 років тому +6

      yes this is how we do it as well to learn ancient greek here,we get the ancient greek text,and the words that need to be translated like your picture we learn them and after a random day we will have to translate the text from ancient greek to modern greek and read the text, at the same age, it is hard but everybody can do it...

    • @hazzmati
      @hazzmati 7 років тому +36

      sooo.... do you want a cookie now?

  • @Macho359
    @Macho359 7 років тому +3

    HOMER!!!We are in an ancient greek legend!HOMER!!!

  • @orinattiv
    @orinattiv 4 роки тому

    Read this amazing epos thanks to you. Thank you!!

  • @madeleynecarat3368
    @madeleynecarat3368 4 роки тому

    *Great* , outstanding narrator

  • @Ronenlahat
    @Ronenlahat 7 років тому +7

    Weren't the sirens in the Odyssey half girl half bird? Surely not half fish.

    • @annapag89
      @annapag89 7 років тому

      Im at work right now yes, they were half women half birds and they were ugly, but had wonderful voice. In the mythology they were like cousins to the mermaids

    • @Okuni_
      @Okuni_ 6 років тому

      Isn't that thing supposed to be harpies?

  • @druid833
    @druid833 7 років тому +5

    So these guys were Dungeons and Dragonsing up in this bitch in 8000 bc? OG.

  • @jeffreygao3956
    @jeffreygao3956 6 років тому +2

    What? No mention of Nausicaä, the one and only Princess who loved insects and hails from the great Valley of the Wind?

  • @divyeshmirajkar1222
    @divyeshmirajkar1222 3 роки тому +2

    Hey ted ed,why don't you make a video on Mahabharata which is longer than Iliad and Odyssey combined?

  • @cookiesxsugar9447
    @cookiesxsugar9447 7 років тому +10

    These videos always present one interpretation as factual. Sometimes this is fine, but when you try and apply it to something like the work of Homer, it falls flat and just seems poorly researched.

  • @nishantsharma4217
    @nishantsharma4217 7 років тому +5

    this is so strangely similar to hinduism. where the king of devas is Indra who happens to be the deva of rain and lighting. and how hindu ancien5 texts are all poetries like the Gita to be recited. and how we hindus have a saying 'athithi devo bhava' meaning 'guests are God' being hindus too like what she said, offered hospitality to whomever that came to their door.

    • @nishantsharma4217
      @nishantsharma4217 7 років тому

      you mean aryans ?
      whom hindus think to be their ancestors ?

  • @scarfacepug4844
    @scarfacepug4844 6 років тому

    Make the hole books like this please

  • @3aBap4uK
    @3aBap4uK 7 років тому

    Awesome. Thank you!

  • @kaitlynsandoval4734
    @kaitlynsandoval4734 3 роки тому +9

    Me reading the book in the 9th grade not knowing any of this information-

  • @factsabouturmum9250
    @factsabouturmum9250 7 років тому +76

    I hear that french fries were originally made in Greece.
    haha do you get it

    • @apollonck9931
      @apollonck9931 7 років тому +1

      Historians have found ancient document of greeks boiling some kind of vegetable called "γεωμηλο" in olive oil,so...
      lol jk,at least as far as I know...

    • @RosePatty
      @RosePatty 7 років тому +9

      Homini Lupus no don't get it

    • @mariadareiotaki8213
      @mariadareiotaki8213 7 років тому +1

      ApollonasX γεομηλο was the first name they gave it when it arrived in greece at the 20th centoury by Ioannis Kapodistrias.
      At the first he gave it for free to them but they thought that it wasnt good because he gaved it free,so he put guards near them,then the people stelled them. And this is how potatoes became famous to Greece !!!

    • @karlpoppins
      @karlpoppins 7 років тому +6

      +ApollonasX
      I almost fell for that; you know, there are many Greeks that believe that sort of shit. So, good one :)
      In fact, the word "γεώμηλο" is a direct translation of the French word "pomme de terre", which in modern French translates to "earth apple", yet in old French it would translate to "earth fruit".
      The construction of this word probably occured 100-200 years ago, when philologists tried to "cleanse" the Greek language from foreign influences, in a desperate attempt to rid the modern Greek, "Ρωμιός", from their evident Turkish, Slavic and French (to mention a few) linguistic and cultural heritage and create a unified and "pure" Greek nation.

    • @karlpoppins
      @karlpoppins 7 років тому +3

      +Μαρια Δαρειωτακη
      That's a myth. Kapodistrias never actually did that... although it is a cool story and it has him, indeed, that introduced potatos to Greece. By the way, I sincerely doubt this happened in the 20th century, since Kapodistrias was murdered in 1831 ;)

  • @marenmarshall4309
    @marenmarshall4309 7 років тому +1

    I read The Odyssey last semester... It was by far the roughest part of the whole semester.

  • @SKyrim190
    @SKyrim190 10 місяців тому +1

    Don't be discourage by this video calling the Odyssey a "24-book epic"...while it is true that sometimes a chant would be called a "book" depending on the edition, and there are 24 chants in the Odyssey, it is not as massive as shown in the animation. Each chant can be read calmly in 1 to 2 hours tops and the whole book is a single tome, not 24 massive books