Hello there! Part time children’s book illustrator here. I don’t usually comment on videos but I really feel what you are going through and you asked other professionals to chime in on how they make money so I thought I would. I currently have 30K in children’s book contracts (two books) I got from my agent in publishing. What I’m seeing with any art career is that you have to pick one thing at first and do that one thing amazingly to start off. Is it UA-cam videos? Etsy shop? Children’s book art? Digital downloads? If you try to do too many things at once they may all never serve you or take way longer to build up as you are juggling so much. I choose kids books and worked 3 years out of art school on my portfolio (so really it took me 7 years) just to make this a part time job. But it’s all I focused on and I studied obsessively what style is selling. You have to be really into market research, find the professionals in your niche and make art as good if not better than them. Or if it’s videos, make videos that are better if not at the same quality as other successful art UA-camrs. and even then it seems any art career you need more than 1 year at. Which is SO HARD because what average person has years and years to spend being unemployed and focused on their dream? That’s a huge privilege. Social media does not tell you the whole picture ever. It won’t show you who is paying this artist rent behind the scenes, if they live with their parents, if they have passive income outside of art, if their cost of living is extremely low. It’s impossible to compare yourself to cause these types of things aren’t put on display. You just see an insanely productive artist and compare yourself but that just isn’t fair. I wouldn’t give up, I would just give yourself more time 🤍 wishing you so much luck! And if art as a business isn’t for you that’s very fair. It’s extremely hard and is not a usually 9-5 that pays healthcare, consistent income and typical living wage. Art as a career is so hard!!!!
thank you so much for your input and sharing your details! yeah, i guess you are right, you have to focus on one thing at first which is super hard, cause again, who has a spare year to devote only to youtube, then a few more years to something else.. and totally agree on social media, that’s exactly what makes an art career so glamorous when you look at it, but in fact you never know what’s going on behind the scenes. it is hard indeed, and if you lose passion along the way, it just makes it meaningless. thank you for your support 🤗
@@artbyvica Ive attempted to give up at least 3 major times lasting a few days to months- almost half a year of quitting. But you never have to fully give up. Art can be a part time source of income! You can learn new skills for your career outside of art that'll set you up for a better place to pursue art later. Its never gunna be a perfect upward trajectory with art. I was working retail, teaching art classes, and now I have an office day job while I build up my art career. It'll take longer if you dont have the means to spends years unemployed ( who does) but its also my reason to get out of bed in the morning so I dont fret as much. You got this!! Followed you and subscribed. Excited to see where you go :)
I'm a full time artist and have been living from my work for the last 16 years. So to answer your question: I earn a living through selling my work, teaching and a bit of youtube income. The "selling my work" has changed the most over time. I was more of an artisan at first (lots of "miniature food" jewelry) and now I'm a fine art artist and work with galleries. Teaching and youtube has fluctuated, right now it's not as much, but I sell more. Putting money aside is the key. Some years you do a lot of money, some years less so. A lot of my artist friends sell prints/stickers as well as their originals. Some have a day job. A few teach, some are actual university teachers. There's not just one path. I think since we're all creatives, we just find ways to earn a living that we enjoy. Like any career it is a lot of work, and burn-out is also part of the deal. With time you learn to work more efficiently and to take longer breaks. (or breaks more often - depends on your needs) I'm not too sure what to tell you, you have to find your own path. I can only speak for myself: I love what I do and my life and I would not want to change it.
thank you for giving me all these details and examples, i appreciate it! and it is great to hear that you found your way and it brings you joy 😊 it's always inspiring to see artists who achieved their dreams ✨
Just seeing this because I’m dealing with a loss and a broken foot. I don’t have any advice cause I was just a security guard who wants to self publish a picture book but didn’t know how to draw well on procreate no matter how many ppl I watched on UA-cam. So I feel like taking breaks is fine but please don’t stop doing art I’m sure your find the right path to follow. when I found your channel i asked you to make a tutorial and you did. It was amazing, you taught me how to draw and color the way I’ve been searching for, for months and I wasn’t frustrated anymore, just loving it. It was like my drawings changed over ngt . And when I’m going thru stuff I can’t control art is always my go to place so thank you for making me better at the thing I love
Hi Victoria, I understand exactly what you are going through and feeling right now. I think you shouldn’t abandon your dream of being an illustrator, no matter how long it takes, for me you are one of the best illustrators I know. In my case, I am a full-time graphic designer and little by little I have been creating illustrations and building what I want to be, I barely have 300 followers and i know i’m not as talented as others, but I don't want to give up on my dream. My advice is that you continue creating art, but do not depend on it financially, perhaps with another job, until the time comes when you can leave it and live only from illustration (that is what I plan to do). You are so creative!!!! ❤
thank you so much for your support, Kelita, you’re so kind 🥹🥹 honesty, you’re at the stage i felt happiest in! working as a designer and creating art for myself and developing my skills. definitely don’t rush things like i did ☺️ and there’s no such thing as talent i believe, and the amount of followers doesn’t define you as an artist, remember that ❤️ and thank you for your advice, i agree with you, i’ll try updating my portfolio and getting back into graphic design or learning software development if all else fails 😁
Last year I did give up, I divorced from a ten year run trying to make it and traumatizing myself into fearing failure as a result, the eternal hustle and unstable income and the fact that I've put a lot of effort to little to no return... God it was awful, I'm still trying to reconnect with art as a hobby and deciding how to proceed income-wise
i get it! hope you find your way back to art 🙏🏼 i eventually gave up as well. i still can’t really draw, and trying to figure out how to reconnect with art as a hobby too.. i guess we need some time to recover and heal.
I'm a muralist and abstract artist. I've been doing this for a few years now and while the income has been okay, the pressure has become too much. Dealing with too many commissions has made me lose my passion. Working with others' visions has taken its toll, and the inconsistent income has made me constantly worry about finances. It costs money to be an artist, not just for materials but also for studio space and marketing. I feel like I've wasted a lot of time and money trying to make a name for myself. I'm considering returning to a full-time office job because I'm tired of the hassle. I don't even want to paint anymore. I feel exhausted!
this is pretty common with art students, most of us drop out of college because of the burnt-out and disappointment in what was once considered our "passion". In my personal opinion, the difference between a professional and a non-pro one is how much they can take doing things that are not "fun" so that in the end they can reach what they have already been pursuing. I believe you could take art as a hobby and still call yourself an artist and be no less than what it meant. Art as a career just like every other career field, it's hard, takes a lot of faith and time, money, and luck even, I would not encourage anyone with just passion to pursue it as a career, but I would also not tell anyone to just give up. You might have what it takes to pursue and eventually, you'll be back to this field, or maybe it's best for you when art is just a hobby.
great thoughts, i totally agree with you! you can definitely be an artist without pursuing a career in art, and that's something i realized only recently. if making art brings you joy and fulfilment, sometimes that is actually enough, and there's no need to chase this dream of becoming a "real" artist (unless you want to of course)
I'm so tired of spending money to make money! No sales since a year ago. I was doing well with the sales back in the early 2000's. Now since my sales are so slow I hardly have enough money for art supplies. Im 71 years old and worked all my life. I've tried to find another job to sustain me but not many will hire my age group. Especially the IT field. My living as a full-time artist is not working anymore and I feel like packing up my stuff. No motivation. Thanks for your wonderful video❤❤❤
I’m an artist myself and if I would live on my artwork income I would literally be starving! In 3 years I sold 1 single original and I can’t tell you how much I invested into making a business out of my artwork! Very frustrating. And disappointing. I love painting, it’s my passion, but Lord have mercy when it comes about making a living out of it!
i'm sorry to hear that! well, i guess the most important thing is that you still love painting! i'm still convinced that art as a hobby is much more fulfilling than making a career art of it
I feel like I can relate to you despite not being a full-time artist myself. I do have a BFA that I graduated with in 2021 and have since worked as a part-time art teacher (which I found was too much for me - the kids were great but classroom management was not), and since the beginning of this year I've been working as a Shipping Manager for a very small distribution business. I get paid a salary currently and I have to say that at the end of the day, I prefer the peace of mind that a salary gives me. It also leaves me enough time to teach art classes online, do the occasional commission, or just create my own personal artwork without the pressure to sell it, all on my own time. I agree with what a few others have suggested, maybe it's time to find another job so you don't need to worry about having an unstable income and you can give yourself the time and space to rekindle your passion for illustration.
couldn't agree with you more. it's only now that i understand the beauty of getting a salary every month and not worrying about making ends meet 😂 it's great that you found a way to do art on the side without any pressure! and yes, thank you for your suggestion, it definitely resonates with me
Hey hun, I usually never comment on videos but I hear you ❤ I have realized a lot of similar things. I loved being a graphic designer, I did it a lot for fun and worked for a start up and did freelance for about 3 years before I decided to pivot my career. I just wasn’t making ends meet how I wanted to and my quality of life was really suffering as a result. I decided to pivot my career and am working now a work from home 8-4pm job with lots of time afternoon times to pursue art/design as a hobby. It reignited my passion and I realized I didn’t have to make a living off of design it really took the pressure off of me. Now since I don’t need to worry I’m able to experiment and have fun with it all again. I wish you all the best, I realized that unfortunately art just isn’t seen as a necessity.. as a result it’s really difficult to make a good living from it.. which breaks my heart to think about. But I’m just thankful to have time to spend doing what I love even if it’s a hobby again 🤍
Unfortunately, anything you want to do in life requires work and dedication (which you can control) and... a huge amount of luck (which you can't control). The only way to influence luck is to consistently try and hope to be seen by someone who would like to pay a lot for your work because for some reason they find it moving or valuable. But I get it, it feel really frustrating when you keep trying and you don't see much success.
HI! I want to share my experience. a couple of years ago I decided to focus only on illustration. It's not going well and I'm also asking the same questions as you. I was forced to find a part time job, I felt like a failure but unexpectedly the fact of having a fixed income led me to rediscover the joy in drawing! I don't know what it's like to be a developer but I can say that I worked as a designer for years and it drained my creativity. I didn't feel like drawing. instead now I rely on random work and draw a lot more than before (not as much as I would like because I'm addicted to the phone). I continue to look for jobs as an illustrator and designer, because I earn too little but I much prefer to have the time and desire to do what makes me feel good rather than trying to do it at all costs, because it's exhausting 🫠
I've been seeing this alot lately not just with smaller artists but larger artists who worked for art studios. I think the idea comes from social media. It distorts so much about the real world. Not every artist is as successful or even as happy as it may seem. The constant need to pump something onto IG is so draining! I had to stop doing that too. I'm a small artist who is an aspiring professional artist but I don't want to give up. I'm just pivoting my art and focusing on making art that I think is unique to me instead of pushing for everyone to like it. So far I'm having more fun with art than I used to. I don't make money off my art yet but I'm working on my portfolio so I can't get jobs in the future. Not just IG likes since they don't pay me anyway XD
This is the part of the reason why I've never tried to pursue a career related to video games or anime. I feel like it would just suck the fun out of it because a job is something you have to do even when you don't feel like. I just want my hobbies to remain as hobbies. That being said I suggest to just take a break from art just to figure out what you really want to do. If possible, get another job in the meantime or focus on making youtube videos while slowly regaining your interest in drawing as a hobby. Whatever you choose, I wish you the best.
I agree, getting a part-time job with good collective could help immensely (personal experience), it's great for making new friends and getting grounded. Plus it could help with finances.
now i totally agree with you about hobbies remaining as hobbies. there's something magical about them yes, i'm definitely taking a break and rethinking my options at the moment, that you so much for your support!
UA-cam pushed me your video - first time here. I was a hobbyist photographer for like 20 years before starting a photography business. You’re not alone in your feelings. I was in a similar place and still feel it occasionally. All the additional stuff about running a business drained me and it almost destroyed the hobby, I just wanted to take photos. What helped me is I created a business with my art as a value-add. It made me stand out to other companies in the same space, clients came to me more organically, and I could work more on my own schedule. I also cut back significantly on gig work and I made time to do the type of art I like as a hobbyist (taking pictures of birds).
sounds great! i'm happy you found a way out for yourself that made it better for you and your business. i guess i'm going to do something similar and go back to a design career with illustration as a value-add
The economic situation in Europe has declined since the war, add Covd to that and AI for making free art for companies. Lots of people in the art field were laid off and opportunities are lessening as art loses its value in a Europe that is getting closer to economic collapse and war. It was difficult for artists even before these events.
Thanks for talking about this. I was trying to become an illustrator/surface pattern designer but experienced massive loss and subsequent grief over a 4 year period. I mostly stopped drawing two years ago due to grief. It's still my dream but I've felt embarrassed about all of the time off and unsure of whether it's still worth it/possible. I've thought about retraining in IT and painting on the side but feel sadness and conflict about this idea too because it's not my dream. I wish it was so much easier to be an illustrator/artist financially for all of us.
I also checked your Instagram after it was mentioned in some comments. And I really like the style! ❤ But as a user, someone who would potentially buy, I have no clue what to do with it or why to buy it. Maybe to print stickers? Use it for a book cover? But then I have to do all the layout and formatting and printing myself. So maybe that is something that is missing for you: do you know your "buyer persona"? What they need and want? After all, being a self-employed artist means running your own business. And that comes with marketing, market analysis and building a brand and products. And that is definitely super hard...
thank you, that's really helpful! i agree with you. i guess it's important to find a niche and specialize in something. like children's books, or book covers, art licensing, etc. i didn't want to admit it when i heard this piece of advice, but now i see it's necessary.
Find a good career to earn a living and pay the bills and let art be an after work hobby. Consider plein air painting as a hobby--it's lots of fun, but not when it's associated with a money/selling motive. The only motive is to enjoy the activity and strive to improve the composition and technical skill.
I agree with you, it recently hit me that pursuing art as a career is what was killing my passion for art, and why I have art blocks. I can't treat it as a business or a way of living, so I decided in the end to pursue in a normal 9-5 job that pays well and isn't something too difficult for me to handle. In the end, on the weekends I can have free time on my own passions, art was way more enjoyable when I didn't treat it like a business income, I just draw because I like it. A quote I saw recently, helped me too. I'll share it: “The arts are not a way to make a living. They are a very human way of making life more bearable. Practicing an art, no matter how well or badly, is a way to make your soul grow, for heaven’s sake. Sing in the shower. Dance to the radio. Tell stories. Write a poem to a friend, even a lousy poem. Do it as well as you possibly can. You will get an enormous reward. You will have created something.” - Kurt Vonnegut This is how I feel exactly with art, it's not something I love because I can make a living out of it, but I love it because it makes life bearable and there is beauty in it that I want to share in this world. Art is a way for us to express ourselves and no matter how hard I think about it I can't put it together as a business or a way of income, not saying it's impossible, I still will draw and post, but it will be done in a way where I am not stress of the next pay or income to pay bills and deadlines.
Hey, I’m also an illustrator and can totally relate to everything mentioned here. I went through your Instagram and this is my subjective opinion based on years of experience: I would recommend experimenting with your style and trying new shapes and color combinations, because at the moment it looks repetitive and it’s giving beige aesthetic that was popular back in 2017. Try to actually find your own voice and stories that are important and personal for you. Being an artist or illustrator is firstly representing yourself in your works. Don’t be scared of creating something inspired by greater artist or illustrators. I hope this won’t come off as rude, I just really want to help. You are doing a great job and it’s very pleasant to listen to you. Keep going!
thank you for your feedback, i appreciate it! i've been feeling stuck with my art style as well, but that is another problem that didn't make it to this video 😂 i guess it also happened due to being in a hustle and not having time to experiment and study new things. that's something i miss doing so much!
I get my money from coding, Im weirdly happy with it. The thing about art is, what is it for? Whats best is to have an art community and people to whom you can give that art to, otherwise youre just stacking paper.
Yout hobby WAS Art... before you wanted to live from it... 🤔. If you want to live from Art, exclusively, and you don't know if you are going to make ends meet...I think that must generate a very strong state of tension and stress (at least I think it would generate it for me)...and in that state I think it is IMPOSSIBLE to have the relaxation that leads to creation, to the mental openness and tranquility to CREATE, and enjoy that FLOW, that FLOW.... I believe that...the basic needs (shelter and food) have to be covered to be able to dedicate yourself to CREATE. Because to create is to experience...🤔🤷♀️.
I've been trying since 2011. I never went to college because of health issues and felt stuck in a "career" I grew to hate and resent. I finally decided to go to school this past Spring and I'm so looking forward to walking away from art. You are not alone.
I've never taken it as serious as I should but maybe thats just my self sabotage back at it. however, I have poured hours, days, weeks, months, and years of my life into creativity and I'm nowhere close to being able to depend on "income" from it. but - as you pointed out - I don't want to pursue it as a career if I stop finding what I need out of art. It's really the only place I can turn to sometimes. I can't lose my only place of refuge. you know? I'm in the in-between as well. so I resonate a lot with where you're at in this video mentally. whatever happens, never lose your joy.
Hi Victoria, knowing what I know now from this feed, I feel really depressed. I'm a dishwasher in a restaurant in Southern California trying to break into the comic illustration business. I even have a silly dream of opening a small booth at Comicon in San Diego. I have only 57 followers on Instagram at the time of this post, and I'm already running out of steam on posting fresh art online. I do wish you the best though and please know that you are not alone.
don't lose hope! i still believe it's possible to make a good living off your art, but the most important thing is not to get burned out in the process and still enjoy making art, otherwise it loses its purpose. instagram isn't really worth it any more in my opinion, it's one of the main causes of burnout for artists... so i would focus more on the things that will directly bring some sort of visible results.
Hello Victoria, I totally understand you, I personally think digital illustrations is dead as AI taking oven which mean illustrators will have to use AI and produce more work for cheaper prices and I believe in the future this job will disappear luckely I decided to do traditional art instead and decided to just do what I love which is charcoal and I end up doing some face painting gig too with a small family business l think artists can survive by being connected to clients what I think we are lacking online, I do sell some handmade cards some illustration during summer festivals but I do have another job of course but at least I enjoy the art I make which is more important in my opinion. I would recommend you to quit the digital world, the noisy internet and focus on local, opening a table in small market by example. Ps: I like you color palette you are definitely into autumn cosy theme i'll give a follow! Do art to enjoy it! ✌️
I was living exclusively from Illustration when I was dedicated to Textile Printing by manual methods. But those were different times. I was in a collective of artisans, and I had a stop at a fair, in a very touristic place.... I spent the week painting, and on weekends I went to sell my paintings. People liked it a lot, it was successful...and I could make a living from it. I wasn't required to be self-employed or anything like that. I didn't have to pay anything for the stall either, no taxes to the City Hall. They let you live off what you created. Or at least try to. Survive. I didn't have a contract, but having an effective and stable point of sale made me look forward to painting, waiting to see people's reactions during the weekend. It was nice, that. I was VERY happy painting...all week long ☺️🔥🤩. True, I had to share an apartment...I couldn't afford to live alone, and I didn't have much money...but I was dedicated to what I loved, and I never lacked motivation to paint. Quite the opposite! (I forgot to eat! 😅🤷♀️) ☺️😅😁.
Hi, I have my MFA and I don't make money from my art either. I never really have, aside from grants which take soooooo much time to apply for and are never guaranteed. I make the lion's share of my money through adjunct teaching which is a whole other [unsustainable] approach to "making money as an artist" where you are exploited for you degree and skills. You seem like you have set up a successful platform to share your experiences and skills. I hope it picks up for you and that I can build up my channel as well as you have!
@@marknute2161 Very possible. But I have also been on the other side of the table and getting them is a total crap shoot. You just never know who will be on the committee.
i’m sorry about that, after posting this video it turned out that loots of artists don’t really make money from their art … thank you for sharing and good luck with your channel ☺️
I am sorry to hear about your experience with illustration. While there are artists who are working full-time in illustration, most (nearly all) do not. I suggest you create your own works of art and attach yourself to a gallery/studio where you can teach art and show your work. You might offer to teach a continuing education art class for a community college. While there will always be a need for illustrators, the demand will not enough be enough to support yourself. Unless you are particularly lucky, you will probably only do sporadic assignments. Of course, if you do it long enough, the right break could come along, and the work could start flowing in at a rate worth your time. For that reason, you should not give it up if that is what you want to do. Just know that there are other outlets where you can be an artist - outlets that can be better and more lucrative for you. Hang in there. God bless.
thanks for your suggestions! yeah, i think i’ve found my joy in simply illustrating as a side hustle, and if it turns into something bigger one day, i’ll be happy, but if not, i’ll still have other sources of income to support me.
Have you tried putting your artwork on products? I am not as published as you are but i do art still. I print my designs on products like tumblers and phone cases. I feel what you are saying, i think you need to look at other avenues to express your art. Good luck.
I've always been stubborn about wanting to pursue art, so that's what I've been doing for the past years. I've relied on social media to share my art for almost as long as I've had access to the internet, and I love being able to connect to others that way. But lately the urge to give up on full-time art is getting stronger... it feels like no matter how much effort you put into 'promotional' work (posting on socials, SEO etc.) the response is pretty random. And like you said, without seeing our efforts pay off, what's the point? :( Right now, I'm spending more time doing technical art on the side. I'm familiar enough with art and coding to know what tools could help digital artists speed up their workflow or automate tasks they don't want to do. Think JavaScript scripting for Adobe Photoshop or Python scripting for Autodesk Maya. The good news is that I already made some scripts to help automate my own art workflow, so it's a win-win no matter what comes out of it hahah Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this, I hope you'll get to keep enjoying art no matter what you end up doing 💛
How are you going to enjoy drawing or painting if you don't know if you're going to be able to pay the rent next month? 🤷♀️. For me it would be impossible 🤷♀️.
Many of these large youtubers simply make money by being on the upper part of a pyramid scheme. The whole thing is about gathering followers and selling them a dream about being an online artist. Of course there's only a limited market space for selling pipe-dreams so vast majority of their followers have no chance to make a living. Like some of them openly talk about how it's not about art but delivering "value", which is mainly selling tutorials and pipe dreams. It's a long time problem in art world - like art schools overproducing artists who then have to try to work on oversaturated market. There are also external factors that make it much harder to for artists to make living like landlordism, climate crisis and resource crisis driving up the costs of basic necessities.
I would learn sales and find a really profitable product/service to sell for a really good company , and move the illustration side to nights and weekends. Don’t give up on it.
maybe get a design job and art on the side as a hobbie like before? i feel like thats always better if you want to enjoy your life personally i have decided to work in the library field and just make art whenever i want so i enjoy it. you wanna enjoy life not suffer..
yeah, that's what i'm actually thinking of doing now! maybe it's good to try an art career, get rid of all the illusions, and get back to enjoying art again and not depending on it financially. i feel you! that sounds like a good option
I don't have capacity with the impairments I have with my disabilities to attempt to make art a career. I went "semi-professional" this year in offering my art for sale & treating it as a hobby business. Doesn't mean people actually buy it though. Burnout is where us creative types often find ourselves in.
One way artists could generate income through their craft was the NFT marketplace. But the art community has (mostly) decided is "bad" for several reasons and this way has been shut off, basically. So... I dunno but I am starting to think that most artists out there become "starving artists" by choice. Signed: aspiring (almost starving) artist. Don't quit your day job, friends.
well I have seen your video and I identified myself a little bit. although I think your work is good, this field is very competitive, I think you do well in marketing etc but I think the problem is in your work, you should try to improve it, before I did not receive commissions because my work was barely decent but in the last 2 years I have improved a lot, I think that if you improve your skills you will have many more orders, really, cheer up. you're too young to give up on this.
@@christianmeza4941 Something that you can fail at. A cartoon gives you too much leeway. James Gurney, william adolphe bogouerou, alan lee, waterhouse, brothers hildebrandt, frank frazzetta, list goes on.
Hello there! Part time children’s book illustrator here. I don’t usually comment on videos but I really feel what you are going through and you asked other professionals to chime in on how they make money so I thought I would. I currently have 30K in children’s book contracts (two books) I got from my agent in publishing. What I’m seeing with any art career is that you have to pick one thing at first and do that one thing amazingly to start off. Is it UA-cam videos? Etsy shop? Children’s book art? Digital downloads? If you try to do too many things at once they may all never serve you or take way longer to build up as you are juggling so much. I choose kids books and worked 3 years out of art school on my portfolio (so really it took me 7 years) just to make this a part time job. But it’s all I focused on and I studied obsessively what style is selling. You have to be really into market research, find the professionals in your niche and make art as good if not better than them. Or if it’s videos, make videos that are better if not at the same quality as other successful art UA-camrs. and even then it seems any art career you need more than 1 year at. Which is SO HARD because what average person has years and years to spend being unemployed and focused on their dream? That’s a huge privilege. Social media does not tell you the whole picture ever. It won’t show you who is paying this artist rent behind the scenes, if they live with their parents, if they have passive income outside of art, if their cost of living is extremely low. It’s impossible to compare yourself to cause these types of things aren’t put on display. You just see an insanely productive artist and compare yourself but that just isn’t fair. I wouldn’t give up, I would just give yourself more time 🤍 wishing you so much luck! And if art as a business isn’t for you that’s very fair. It’s extremely hard and is not a usually 9-5 that pays healthcare, consistent income and typical living wage. Art as a career is so hard!!!!
thank you so much for your input and sharing your details!
yeah, i guess you are right, you have to focus on one thing at first which is super hard, cause again, who has a spare year to devote only to youtube, then a few more years to something else..
and totally agree on social media, that’s exactly what makes an art career so glamorous when you look at it, but in fact you never know what’s going on behind the scenes.
it is hard indeed, and if you lose passion along the way, it just makes it meaningless.
thank you for your support 🤗
@@artbyvica Ive attempted to give up at least 3 major times lasting a few days to months- almost half a year of quitting. But you never have to fully give up. Art can be a part time source of income! You can learn new skills for your career outside of art that'll set you up for a better place to pursue art later. Its never gunna be a perfect upward trajectory with art. I was working retail, teaching art classes, and now I have an office day job while I build up my art career. It'll take longer if you dont have the means to spends years unemployed ( who does) but its also my reason to get out of bed in the morning so I dont fret as much. You got this!! Followed you and subscribed. Excited to see where you go :)
@@alyssarussell5416 i agree! art as a part-time income is a great idea. thank you so much and good luck:)
Could I ask what your office day job is? @@alyssarussell5416
I'm a full time artist and have been living from my work for the last 16 years.
So to answer your question: I earn a living through selling my work, teaching and a bit of youtube income.
The "selling my work" has changed the most over time. I was more of an artisan at first (lots of "miniature food" jewelry) and now I'm a fine art artist and work with galleries.
Teaching and youtube has fluctuated, right now it's not as much, but I sell more. Putting money aside is the key. Some years you do a lot of money, some years less so.
A lot of my artist friends sell prints/stickers as well as their originals.
Some have a day job. A few teach, some are actual university teachers. There's not just one path. I think since we're all creatives, we just find ways to earn a living that we enjoy.
Like any career it is a lot of work, and burn-out is also part of the deal.
With time you learn to work more efficiently and to take longer breaks. (or breaks more often - depends on your needs)
I'm not too sure what to tell you, you have to find your own path.
I can only speak for myself: I love what I do and my life and I would not want to change it.
thank you for giving me all these details and examples, i appreciate it!
and it is great to hear that you found your way and it brings you joy 😊 it's always inspiring to see artists who achieved their dreams ✨
How do you get in with working with galleries - do you approach them?
Just seeing this because I’m dealing with a loss and a broken foot. I don’t have any advice cause I was just a security guard who wants to self publish a picture book but didn’t know how to draw well on procreate no matter how many ppl I watched on UA-cam. So I feel like taking breaks is fine but please don’t stop doing art I’m sure your find the right path to follow. when I found your channel i asked you to make a tutorial and you did. It was amazing, you taught me how to draw and color the way I’ve been searching for, for months and I wasn’t frustrated anymore, just loving it. It was like my drawings changed over ngt . And when I’m going thru stuff I can’t control art is always my go to place so thank you for making me better at the thing I love
thank you so much for your kind comment 🤗 it’s really nice to hear. wish all the best to you ✨
Hi Victoria, I understand exactly what you are going through and feeling right now. I think you shouldn’t abandon your dream of being an illustrator, no matter how long it takes, for me you are one of the best illustrators I know. In my case, I am a full-time graphic designer and little by little I have been creating illustrations and building what I want to be, I barely have 300 followers and i know i’m not as talented as others, but I don't want to give up on my dream. My advice is that you continue creating art, but do not depend on it financially, perhaps with another job, until the time comes when you can leave it and live only from illustration (that is what I plan to do). You are so creative!!!! ❤
thank you so much for your support, Kelita, you’re so kind 🥹🥹
honesty, you’re at the stage i felt happiest in! working as a designer and creating art for myself and developing my skills. definitely don’t rush things like i did ☺️ and there’s no such thing as talent i believe, and the amount of followers doesn’t define you as an artist, remember that ❤️
and thank you for your advice, i agree with you, i’ll try updating my portfolio and getting back into graphic design or learning software development if all else fails 😁
Last year I did give up, I divorced from a ten year run trying to make it and traumatizing myself into fearing failure as a result, the eternal hustle and unstable income and the fact that I've put a lot of effort to little to no return... God it was awful, I'm still trying to reconnect with art as a hobby and deciding how to proceed income-wise
i get it! hope you find your way back to art 🙏🏼 i eventually gave up as well. i still can’t really draw, and trying to figure out how to reconnect with art as a hobby too.. i guess we need some time to recover and heal.
I gave up because the illustration well has become content creation world with everyone just copying each other and I just can’t be bothered anymore
I'm a muralist and abstract artist. I've been doing this for a few years now and while the income has been okay, the pressure has become too much. Dealing with too many commissions has made me lose my passion. Working with others' visions has taken its toll, and the inconsistent income has made me constantly worry about finances. It costs money to be an artist, not just for materials but also for studio space and marketing. I feel like I've wasted a lot of time and money trying to make a name for myself. I'm considering returning to a full-time office job because I'm tired of the hassle. I don't even want to paint anymore. I feel exhausted!
this is pretty common with art students, most of us drop out of college because of the burnt-out and disappointment in what was once considered our "passion".
In my personal opinion, the difference between a professional and a non-pro one is how much they can take doing things that are not "fun" so that in the end they can reach what they have already been pursuing. I believe you could take art as a hobby and still call yourself an artist and be no less than what it meant. Art as a career just like every other career field, it's hard, takes a lot of faith and time, money, and luck even, I would not encourage anyone with just passion to pursue it as a career, but I would also not tell anyone to just give up. You might have what it takes to pursue and eventually, you'll be back to this field, or maybe it's best for you when art is just a hobby.
great thoughts, i totally agree with you! you can definitely be an artist without pursuing a career in art, and that's something i realized only recently. if making art brings you joy and fulfilment, sometimes that is actually enough, and there's no need to chase this dream of becoming a "real" artist (unless you want to of course)
So it is better to do art as hobby?
I'm so tired of spending money to make money! No sales since a year ago. I was doing well with the sales back in the early 2000's. Now since my sales are so slow I hardly have enough money for art supplies. Im 71 years old and worked all my life. I've tried to find another job to sustain me but not many will hire my age group. Especially the IT field. My living as a full-time artist is not working anymore and I feel like packing up my stuff. No motivation. Thanks for your wonderful video❤❤❤
I’m an artist myself and if I would live on my artwork income I would literally be starving! In 3 years I sold 1 single original and I can’t tell you how much I invested into making a business out of my artwork! Very frustrating. And disappointing. I love painting, it’s my passion, but Lord have mercy when it comes about making a living out of it!
i'm sorry to hear that! well, i guess the most important thing is that you still love painting! i'm still convinced that art as a hobby is much more fulfilling than making a career art of it
I feel like I can relate to you despite not being a full-time artist myself. I do have a BFA that I graduated with in 2021 and have since worked as a part-time art teacher (which I found was too much for me - the kids were great but classroom management was not), and since the beginning of this year I've been working as a Shipping Manager for a very small distribution business. I get paid a salary currently and I have to say that at the end of the day, I prefer the peace of mind that a salary gives me. It also leaves me enough time to teach art classes online, do the occasional commission, or just create my own personal artwork without the pressure to sell it, all on my own time. I agree with what a few others have suggested, maybe it's time to find another job so you don't need to worry about having an unstable income and you can give yourself the time and space to rekindle your passion for illustration.
couldn't agree with you more. it's only now that i understand the beauty of getting a salary every month and not worrying about making ends meet 😂
it's great that you found a way to do art on the side without any pressure!
and yes, thank you for your suggestion, it definitely resonates with me
Hey hun, I usually never comment on videos but I hear you ❤ I have realized a lot of similar things. I loved being a graphic designer, I did it a lot for fun and worked for a start up and did freelance for about 3 years before I decided to pivot my career. I just wasn’t making ends meet how I wanted to and my quality of life was really suffering as a result.
I decided to pivot my career and am working now a work from home 8-4pm job with lots of time afternoon times to pursue art/design as a hobby. It reignited my passion and I realized I didn’t have to make a living off of design it really took the pressure off of me. Now since I don’t need to worry I’m able to experiment and have fun with it all again.
I wish you all the best, I realized that unfortunately art just isn’t seen as a necessity.. as a result it’s really difficult to make a good living from it.. which breaks my heart to think about. But I’m just thankful to have time to spend doing what I love even if it’s a hobby again 🤍
Unfortunately, anything you want to do in life requires work and dedication (which you can control) and... a huge amount of luck (which you can't control). The only way to influence luck is to consistently try and hope to be seen by someone who would like to pay a lot for your work because for some reason they find it moving or valuable. But I get it, it feel really frustrating when you keep trying and you don't see much success.
totally agree with you. and sometimes you also have to evaluate whether your efforts and struggles are truly worth it
HI! I want to share my experience. a couple of years ago I decided to focus only on illustration. It's not going well and I'm also asking the same questions as you. I was forced to find a part time job, I felt like a failure but unexpectedly the fact of having a fixed income led me to rediscover the joy in drawing! I don't know what it's like to be a developer but I can say that I worked as a designer for years and it drained my creativity. I didn't feel like drawing. instead now I rely on random work and draw a lot more than before (not as much as I would like because I'm addicted to the phone). I continue to look for jobs as an illustrator and designer, because I earn too little but I much prefer to have the time and desire to do what makes me feel good rather than trying to do it at all costs, because it's exhausting 🫠
I've been seeing this alot lately not just with smaller artists but larger artists who worked for art studios. I think the idea comes from social media. It distorts so much about the real world. Not every artist is as successful or even as happy as it may seem. The constant need to pump something onto IG is so draining! I had to stop doing that too. I'm a small artist who is an aspiring professional artist but I don't want to give up. I'm just pivoting my art and focusing on making art that I think is unique to me instead of pushing for everyone to like it. So far I'm having more fun with art than I used to. I don't make money off my art yet but I'm working on my portfolio so I can't get jobs in the future. Not just IG likes since they don't pay me anyway XD
that’s a good decision, i want to rediscover art without social media as well
best of luck with your portfolio and future projects!
This is the part of the reason why I've never tried to pursue a career related to video games or anime. I feel like it would just suck the fun out of it because a job is something you have to do even when you don't feel like. I just want my hobbies to remain as hobbies.
That being said I suggest to just take a break from art just to figure out what you really want to do. If possible, get another job in the meantime or focus on making youtube videos while slowly regaining your interest in drawing as a hobby. Whatever you choose, I wish you the best.
I agree, getting a part-time job with good collective could help immensely (personal experience), it's great for making new friends and getting grounded. Plus it could help with finances.
now i totally agree with you about hobbies remaining as hobbies. there's something magical about them
yes, i'm definitely taking a break and rethinking my options at the moment, that you so much for your support!
@@artbyvica best of luck! 💕
UA-cam pushed me your video - first time here. I was a hobbyist photographer for like 20 years before starting a photography business. You’re not alone in your feelings. I was in a similar place and still feel it occasionally. All the additional stuff about running a business drained me and it almost destroyed the hobby, I just wanted to take photos.
What helped me is I created a business with my art as a value-add. It made me stand out to other companies in the same space, clients came to me more organically, and I could work more on my own schedule. I also cut back significantly on gig work and I made time to do the type of art I like as a hobbyist (taking pictures of birds).
sounds great! i'm happy you found a way out for yourself that made it better for you and your business.
i guess i'm going to do something similar and go back to a design career with illustration as a value-add
The economic situation in Europe has declined since the war, add Covd to that and AI for making free art for companies. Lots of people in the art field were laid off and opportunities are lessening as art loses its value in a Europe that is getting closer to economic collapse and war. It was difficult for artists even before these events.
yeah, that's really sad ☹️
Thanks for talking about this. I was trying to become an illustrator/surface pattern designer but experienced massive loss and subsequent grief over a 4 year period. I mostly stopped drawing two years ago due to grief. It's still my dream but I've felt embarrassed about all of the time off and unsure of whether it's still worth it/possible. I've thought about retraining in IT and painting on the side but feel sadness and conflict about this idea too because it's not my dream. I wish it was so much easier to be an illustrator/artist financially for all of us.
I also checked your Instagram after it was mentioned in some comments. And I really like the style! ❤ But as a user, someone who would potentially buy, I have no clue what to do with it or why to buy it. Maybe to print stickers? Use it for a book cover? But then I have to do all the layout and formatting and printing myself. So maybe that is something that is missing for you: do you know your "buyer persona"? What they need and want? After all, being a self-employed artist means running your own business. And that comes with marketing, market analysis and building a brand and products. And that is definitely super hard...
thank you, that's really helpful! i agree with you. i guess it's important to find a niche and specialize in something. like children's books, or book covers, art licensing, etc. i didn't want to admit it when i heard this piece of advice, but now i see it's necessary.
@@artbyvica But don't let that bring you down. I'm definitely gonna follow you, maybe I have some ideas in the future to book you for.
Find a good career to earn a living and pay the bills and let art be an after work hobby.
Consider plein air painting as a hobby--it's lots of fun, but not when it's associated with a money/selling motive. The only motive is to enjoy the activity and strive to improve the composition and technical skill.
I agree with you, it recently hit me that pursuing art as a career is what was killing my passion for art, and why I have art blocks. I can't treat it as a business or a way of living, so I decided in the end to pursue in a normal 9-5 job that pays well and isn't something too difficult for me to handle. In the end, on the weekends I can have free time on my own passions, art was way more enjoyable when I didn't treat it like a business income, I just draw because I like it. A quote I saw recently, helped me too. I'll share it:
“The arts are not a way to make a living. They are a very human way of making life more bearable. Practicing an art, no matter how well or badly, is a way to make your soul grow, for heaven’s sake. Sing in the shower. Dance to the radio. Tell stories. Write a poem to a friend, even a lousy poem. Do it as well as you possibly can. You will get an enormous reward. You will have created something.” - Kurt Vonnegut
This is how I feel exactly with art, it's not something I love because I can make a living out of it, but I love it because it makes life bearable and there is beauty in it that I want to share in this world. Art is a way for us to express ourselves and no matter how hard I think about it I can't put it together as a business or a way of income, not saying it's impossible, I still will draw and post, but it will be done in a way where I am not stress of the next pay or income to pay bills and deadlines.
Hey, I’m also an illustrator and can totally relate to everything mentioned here. I went through your Instagram and this is my subjective opinion based on years of experience: I would recommend experimenting with your style and trying new shapes and color combinations, because at the moment it looks repetitive and it’s giving beige aesthetic that was popular back in 2017. Try to actually find your own voice and stories that are important and personal for you. Being an artist or illustrator is firstly representing yourself in your works. Don’t be scared of creating something inspired by greater artist or illustrators. I hope this won’t come off as rude, I just really want to help. You are doing a great job and it’s very pleasant to listen to you. Keep going!
thank you for your feedback, i appreciate it! i've been feeling stuck with my art style as well, but that is another problem that didn't make it to this video 😂 i guess it also happened due to being in a hustle and not having time to experiment and study new things. that's something i miss doing so much!
Yes, it is very similar for me. Unfortunately as much as I hate the financial stress of this job, I think I hate every other job more 😅😭
so true 😂😂
I get my money from coding, Im weirdly happy with it. The thing about art is, what is it for? Whats best is to have an art community and people to whom you can give that art to, otherwise youre just stacking paper.
Yout hobby WAS Art... before you wanted to live from it... 🤔.
If you want to live from Art, exclusively, and you don't know if you are going to make ends meet...I think that must generate a very strong state of tension and stress (at least I think it would generate it for me)...and in that state I think it is IMPOSSIBLE to have the relaxation that leads to creation, to the mental openness and tranquility to CREATE, and enjoy that FLOW, that FLOW....
I believe that...the basic needs (shelter and food) have to be covered to be able to dedicate yourself to CREATE.
Because to create is to experience...🤔🤷♀️.
I've been trying since 2011. I never went to college because of health issues and felt stuck in a "career" I grew to hate and resent. I finally decided to go to school this past Spring and I'm so looking forward to walking away from art. You are not alone.
I've never taken it as serious as I should but maybe thats just my self sabotage back at it. however, I have poured hours, days, weeks, months, and years of my life into creativity and I'm nowhere close to being able to depend on "income" from it. but - as you pointed out - I don't want to pursue it as a career if I stop finding what I need out of art. It's really the only place I can turn to sometimes. I can't lose my only place of refuge. you know?
I'm in the in-between as well. so I resonate a lot with where you're at in this video mentally. whatever happens, never lose your joy.
i can relate! i miss the time when art was my refuge. it’s definitely not worth losing this feeling
Hi Victoria, knowing what I know now from this feed, I feel really depressed. I'm a dishwasher in a restaurant in Southern California trying to break into the comic illustration business. I even have a silly dream of opening a small booth at Comicon in San Diego. I have only 57 followers on Instagram at the time of this post, and I'm already running out of steam on posting fresh art online. I do wish you the best though and please know that you are not alone.
don't lose hope! i still believe it's possible to make a good living off your art, but the most important thing is not to get burned out in the process and still enjoy making art, otherwise it loses its purpose. instagram isn't really worth it any more in my opinion, it's one of the main causes of burnout for artists... so i would focus more on the things that will directly bring some sort of visible results.
Hello Victoria, I totally understand you, I personally think digital illustrations is dead as AI taking oven which mean illustrators will have to use AI and produce more work for cheaper prices and I believe in the future this job will disappear luckely I decided to do traditional art instead and decided to just do what I love which is charcoal and I end up doing some face painting gig too with a small family business l think artists can survive by being connected to clients what I think we are lacking online, I do sell some handmade cards some illustration during summer festivals but I do have another job of course but at least I enjoy the art I make which is more important in my opinion. I would recommend you to quit the digital world, the noisy internet and focus on local, opening a table in small market by example. Ps: I like you color palette you are definitely into autumn cosy theme i'll give a follow! Do art to enjoy it! ✌️
thank you for sharing 😊 i agree, enjoying art and the process is the most important thing 🙌🏼
I was living exclusively from Illustration when I was dedicated to Textile Printing by manual methods.
But those were different times.
I was in a collective of artisans, and I had a stop at a fair, in a very touristic place....
I spent the week painting, and on weekends I went to sell my paintings.
People liked it a lot, it was successful...and I could make a living from it.
I wasn't required to be self-employed or anything like that.
I didn't have to pay anything for the stall either, no taxes to the City Hall.
They let you live off what you created.
Or at least try to.
Survive.
I didn't have a contract, but having an effective and stable point of sale made me look forward to painting, waiting to see people's reactions during the weekend.
It was nice, that.
I was VERY happy painting...all week long ☺️🔥🤩.
True, I had to share an apartment...I couldn't afford to live alone, and I didn't have much money...but I was dedicated to what I loved, and I never lacked motivation to paint.
Quite the opposite! (I forgot to eat! 😅🤷♀️) ☺️😅😁.
thank you for sharing your story! are you still making a living off your art?
Hi, I have my MFA and I don't make money from my art either. I never really have, aside from grants which take soooooo much time to apply for and are never guaranteed. I make the lion's share of my money through adjunct teaching which is a whole other [unsustainable] approach to "making money as an artist" where you are exploited for you degree and skills. You seem like you have set up a successful platform to share your experiences and skills. I hope it picks up for you and that I can build up my channel as well as you have!
I feel the grant application forms is just to satisfy a wet dream for a bureaucrat
@@marknute2161 Very possible. But I have also been on the other side of the table and getting them is a total crap shoot. You just never know who will be on the committee.
i’m sorry about that, after posting this video it turned out that loots of artists don’t really make money from their art … thank you for sharing and good luck with your channel ☺️
A Josh Homme quote comes to mind: "When you expect anything from music, you expect too much". Goes quite well with art in general IMO.
I am sorry to hear about your experience with illustration. While there are artists who are working full-time in illustration, most (nearly all) do not. I suggest you create your own works of art and attach yourself to a gallery/studio where you can teach art and show your work. You might offer to teach a continuing education art class for a community college. While there will always be a need for illustrators, the demand will not enough be enough to support yourself. Unless you are particularly lucky, you will probably only do sporadic assignments. Of course, if you do it long enough, the right break could come along, and the work could start flowing in at a rate worth your time. For that reason, you should not give it up if that is what you want to do. Just know that there are other outlets where you can be an artist - outlets that can be better and more lucrative for you. Hang in there. God bless.
thanks for your suggestions! yeah, i think i’ve found my joy in simply illustrating as a side hustle, and if it turns into something bigger one day, i’ll be happy, but if not, i’ll still have other sources of income to support me.
Have you tried putting your artwork on products? I am not as published as you are but i do art still. I print my designs on products like tumblers and phone cases. I feel what you are saying, i think you need to look at other avenues to express your art. Good luck.
no, i haven’t, thanks for the idea 🤗 good luck with your venture too!
I've always been stubborn about wanting to pursue art, so that's what I've been doing for the past years. I've relied on social media to share my art for almost as long as I've had access to the internet, and I love being able to connect to others that way. But lately the urge to give up on full-time art is getting stronger... it feels like no matter how much effort you put into 'promotional' work (posting on socials, SEO etc.) the response is pretty random. And like you said, without seeing our efforts pay off, what's the point? :(
Right now, I'm spending more time doing technical art on the side. I'm familiar enough with art and coding to know what tools could help digital artists speed up their workflow or automate tasks they don't want to do. Think JavaScript scripting for Adobe Photoshop or Python scripting for Autodesk Maya. The good news is that I already made some scripts to help automate my own art workflow, so it's a win-win no matter what comes out of it hahah
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this, I hope you'll get to keep enjoying art no matter what you end up doing 💛
im happy you’ve found a great solution for yourself 🤗 art should bring pleasure, not anxiety!
What kinds of scripts for PS have you made? asking as an illustrator/graphic designer
Great thoughts ❤❤ thank you for sharing
How are you going to enjoy drawing or painting if you don't know if you're going to be able to pay the rent next month? 🤷♀️.
For me it would be impossible 🤷♀️.
Many of these large youtubers simply make money by being on the upper part of a pyramid scheme. The whole thing is about gathering followers and selling them a dream about being an online artist. Of course there's only a limited market space for selling pipe-dreams so vast majority of their followers have no chance to make a living.
Like some of them openly talk about how it's not about art but delivering "value", which is mainly selling tutorials and pipe dreams.
It's a long time problem in art world - like art schools overproducing artists who then have to try to work on oversaturated market.
There are also external factors that make it much harder to for artists to make living like landlordism, climate crisis and resource crisis driving up the costs of basic necessities.
Love , hope and faith from India
I would learn sales and find a really profitable product/service to sell for a really good company , and move the illustration side to nights and weekends. Don’t give up on it.
i’m not sure sales is the field i’m interested in, but thank you!
I love your cartoons the most! I’m sad it’s been so disappointing for you.
thank you! it's getting better though, i released a new video and i'm also making art again 😊
I've been feeling this way for such a long time. Maybe it would be better for you to take a break or find another hobby 💚
i’m sorry to hear that you’ve been feeling this way too ☹️ hope it’ll get better soon 🤗
yeah, i’m trying to do that at the moment 😊
maybe get a design job and art on the side as a hobbie like before?
i feel like thats always better if you want to enjoy your life
personally i have decided to work in the library field and just make art whenever i want so i enjoy it. you wanna enjoy life not suffer..
yeah, that's what i'm actually thinking of doing now! maybe it's good to try an art career, get rid of all the illusions, and get back to enjoying art again and not depending on it financially.
i feel you! that sounds like a good option
I don't have capacity with the impairments I have with my disabilities to attempt to make art a career.
I went "semi-professional" this year in offering my art for sale & treating it as a hobby business. Doesn't mean people actually buy it though.
Burnout is where us creative types often find ourselves in.
Is the reason why you are so burnt out because you’re not charging as much as you should? Do not let them take advantage of you.
that is one of the reasons as well i guess..
Let us k ow ur journey. We are rooting for you!
I go through the same thing with music. It's exhausting and I get burned out often.
sorry to hear that :( hope it gets better for you!
I've worked a normal low paid job all my life. Trust me, you're not missing anything.
One way artists could generate income through their craft was the NFT marketplace.
But the art community has (mostly) decided is "bad" for several reasons and this way has been shut off, basically.
So... I dunno but I am starting to think that most artists out there become "starving artists" by choice.
Signed: aspiring (almost starving) artist. Don't quit your day job, friends.
Take a break and come back with vengeful creativity.
I don't earn anything as an artist. I am not an entrepreneur. My only concern is to make good paintings.
that’s a good approach 👍
The amount of work that you do and how much you get paid doest add up. Sadly the same is happening to other jobs...or you just dont get hired anymore.
well I have seen your video and I identified myself a little bit. although I think your work is good, this field is very competitive, I think you do well in marketing etc but I think the problem is in your work, you should try to improve it, before I did not receive commissions because my work was barely decent but in the last 2 years I have improved a lot, I think that if you improve your skills you will have many more orders, really, cheer up. you're too young to give up on this.
thanks for your feedback!
Rule 34.
That's a huge amount of my income. If you want to do it, go for it, girl.
You got to take the art to the next level, cartoons is too low a bar.
like what?, whats the next level?
@@christianmeza4941 Something that you can fail at. A cartoon gives you too much leeway. James Gurney, william adolphe bogouerou, alan lee, waterhouse, brothers hildebrandt, frank frazzetta, list goes on.
@@DanIel-fl1vc thanks for ur insight!
Please quit. You're just making kitsch. Make space for those with vision.
dont be mean, she is pretty cool 😊