Great video Tom. Don’t get much still water when I seem to get out, but will definitely tie a few and add them to the box. Great looking shop too by the way. I love exploring tackle shops almost as much as I like sea fishing. I wonder if a tour around the shop when you can’t get to the water might be an up and coming video if other subscribers like the idea. They’re aren’t that many sea fishing tackle shops in Halifax, so tours are few and far between for me. Stay safe and keep the videos coming.
Hi Tom I have used an urge rig but tied differently and about 6ft long am down new milton end of may will try and pop in and see you hopefully bringing my rods with me again great videos
Simply brilliant! …Now to experiment, over complicate then go bank to original 🤦🏻♂️ I take it that with a 2 foot space and a 2 foot snood by the time knots are done the snood is less than 2 foot so will not catch lower/higher snood. Is it best not to over load snoods with too much bling as weight will upset balance?? Thankyou
Hi Tom Great explanatory video. Are there certain tide conditions required to fish such a rig. I would like to try them out but I'm guessing you need calm conditions and not big surf conditions on the beach to fish them. Any info you could give on when to and when not to fish these types of rigs would be helpful and also maybe if you change overall length of the rig and diameter of the line in heavier surf. Thanks alot Tony
Sorry for late reply mate. been on a bit of a hiatus from social media! Back now! You are absolutely correct, this rig is definitely better in calmer conditions. Tides don't matter too much, strong tides will keep everything stretched out and away from the lead, but a little feathering on the cast and a tweak here and there when it's in the water will keep them tangle free too. They're extensively used in the med where there's no tide movement. You are correct again (go to the top of the class!) with regards to the line, the thicker the line the less it'll tangle. I often use 0.40 when fishing for sole and bass and the likes, this tangle a lot less (pretty much not at all) then fishing really light lines like 0.20 or 0.25 in the summer. Just remember the shorter you go and the heavier the line the less natural movement you'll get.
@@FishyTom Thanks for the reply Tom. I'm going to tie up a few standard ones like this and try them out on the surf beaches over here in Cork and Kerry when its calm conditions for bass and flounder. Could you use these in estuaries for flounder do you think?
Thanks for the great video which compliments your recent Southbourne session. I was just wondering if any special precautions are needed when casting with the twelve foot of snood hanging below the weight.
Hi David. I usually just lay the snood out behind me on the beach, then it's just a case of remembering you're just casting the lead, so almost ignore the snood! It's one of those situations where once you've done it a couple of times you'll realise how easy it is!
Due to the length, I am surprised someone has not stolen something from the carp world and come up with some type of PVA material to hold the long snood.
With an Urfe everything trails below the lead, so the length really is no issue. It is a little mind over matter, but once you've done it a couple of times you'll realise how easy it is..
Not during casting, no. Or at least no more than any other rig can, because tangles happen. However, I'd avoid using this rig in any kind of rough weather.
Could you just use a small link clip to attach to the urfe rig swival? i just thinking of having different rigs to attach to try different lengths of trace etc
You can use it with either, depending on the situation. If I'm targetting flatties etc, then I like a plain lead, so I can twitch and move the bait about. Bigger target fish or stronger tides may necessitate the use of a grip lead. Having said all that, I reckon 90% of the time I'm using a plain lead when fishing an urfe rig.
Hi Rodney. If using a short urfe rig like that I'd personally stick with just the one dropper, so two hooks in total. You can use a two foot dropper for this. If you did want to use three hooks then reduce the droppers to one foot long. Don't go too light on the line either. Probably 0.40 main with 0.35 droppers.
I've fished it at long range before. Can be a great option if fish are on the surface at distance as you can use a much longer snood than with a flapper.
Great instructional video, do you prefer doing them with a 2 way bead now instead of the water knot for droppers? Also when would you use an urfe? I’ve tried them but not sure in the right way
I do prefer the 2 way beads now over various methods I've tried. I tend to use an urfe when fishing calm conditions and when fishing is tough. They are great for certain species too, like bass, mullet, flatfish, bream etc.
should have used red line, would have seen it better, not sure how i would cast that out, even with the 15 foot backcaster, that rig seems much like the ones we were making 40 years ago for on the boat, just a french boom and 2 or 3 hooks coming off the one snood, of course it wasnt 12 foot long and we never used any plastic
You're right, coloured line would have been much better! D'oh! Remember the snood trails the lead, so you can cast these on a 6 foot rod if you wanted to! 3 belows are very common practice on the boats for sure and have been for a long time as you say.
Love the simplicity of your erfe build. Different to the way I was taught but, as you quite rightly say, try this and adapt!
There's so many different ways, it's good to try as many as you can and see which one works for you.
Great video Tom. Don’t get much still water when I seem to get out, but will definitely tie a few and add them to the box. Great looking shop too by the way. I love exploring tackle shops almost as much as I like sea fishing. I wonder if a tour around the shop when you can’t get to the water might be an up and coming video if other subscribers like the idea. They’re aren’t that many sea fishing tackle shops in Halifax, so tours are few and far between for me. Stay safe and keep the videos coming.
That's a great idea, although does that mean I'll have to do the hoovering and dusting first? 🤣
Many thanks
Love 2 way beads , great vlog as always Tom , I will now do knots instead of tubing stop knots and try it .. ty Tom 🐟🎣👍
It's a great little "cheat", saves loads of time.
Hi Tom I have used an urge rig but tied differently and about 6ft long am down new milton end of may will try and pop in and see you hopefully bringing my rods with me again great videos
Be good to see you. End of May is a good time for fishing, so many species showing by then.
@@FishyTom look forward to meeting you and seeing the shop maybe grab a session with you at Southbourne if you are out tight lines
Great video as usual will be using this rig on my next session at Brighton for fatties thanks for the top tips 👍
Thanks Jim. Good luck with it.
Great simple and effective rig Toby!
Stop calling me Toby 🤣🤣🤣 although I admit I've been called much worse!
@@FishyTom sorry Tom bloody phone speller changed it without me noticing!
@@stuartcrane9409 haha, no worries mate, like I said I've been called far worse.
Brilliant as always Mr B👌👌👌
Thanks Lee
Plain and simple rigs great education 👏
Thanks David.
Thanks you the Goru.
No worries
Simply brilliant! …Now to experiment, over complicate then go bank to original 🤦🏻♂️
I take it that with a 2 foot space and a 2 foot snood by the time knots are done the snood is less than 2 foot so will not catch lower/higher snood.
Is it best not to over load snoods with too much bling as weight will upset balance??
Thankyou
Correct on both fronts there mate 👍
Hi Tom Great explanatory video. Are there certain tide conditions required to fish such a rig. I would like to try them out but I'm guessing you need calm conditions and not big surf conditions on the beach to fish them. Any info you could give on when to and when not to fish these types of rigs would be helpful and also maybe if you change overall length of the rig and diameter of the line in heavier surf. Thanks alot Tony
Sorry for late reply mate. been on a bit of a hiatus from social media! Back now!
You are absolutely correct, this rig is definitely better in calmer conditions. Tides don't matter too much, strong tides will keep everything stretched out and away from the lead, but a little feathering on the cast and a tweak here and there when it's in the water will keep them tangle free too. They're extensively used in the med where there's no tide movement.
You are correct again (go to the top of the class!) with regards to the line, the thicker the line the less it'll tangle. I often use 0.40 when fishing for sole and bass and the likes, this tangle a lot less (pretty much not at all) then fishing really light lines like 0.20 or 0.25 in the summer. Just remember the shorter you go and the heavier the line the less natural movement you'll get.
@@FishyTom Thanks for the reply Tom. I'm going to tie up a few standard ones like this and try them out on the surf beaches over here in Cork and Kerry when its calm conditions for bass and flounder. Could you use these in estuaries for flounder do you think?
Thanks for the great video which compliments your recent Southbourne session. I was just wondering if any special precautions are needed when casting with the twelve foot of snood hanging below the weight.
Hi David. I usually just lay the snood out behind me on the beach, then it's just a case of remembering you're just casting the lead, so almost ignore the snood! It's one of those situations where once you've done it a couple of times you'll realise how easy it is!
I was wondering the exact same thing and would like to try this set up some time soon. Thank you for sharing. 🎣👍🏻
Due to the length, I am surprised someone has not stolen something from the carp world and come up with some type of PVA material to hold the long snood.
Another superb tutorial, simply the best. Where can I purchase those Cross or double beads please Sir?
Thanks Sean. In the video description is a link for the beads.
Many thanks, I really need to thank you for the amazing tutorials and advise. My fishing has gone from strength to strength👍
@@seanlindley4620 brilliant mate. That makes it all worth my while doing them 😃
Liked your vid. Bit confused. How are you meant to cast a 12ft trace with 2ft droppers. With out getting tangles on your trace.
With an Urfe everything trails below the lead, so the length really is no issue. It is a little mind over matter, but once you've done it a couple of times you'll realise how easy it is..
Is asking this rig easy, or do I nave to cast in a different way ? Sorry,but I’m really new to this after a 30 year break from fishing .
It's much easier than you think. Just lay the rig out behind you and do a simple over head cast.
Hi Tom. Dose it not tangle when casting.
Not when casting no, but if fished in rough conditions can come back in a tangled ball of doom!
A 'swing low' rig....Good stuff Mr B......what's the advantage of the 2 way beads over a dropper knot Tom?
Tangles less mate. Since I've been using 2 way beads and longer droppers I've had far less tangles.
@@FishyTom great...Will ring and get some...
Do the bottom 2 hooks tangle being so close to each other, ie twist around each other, especially during casting ?.
Not during casting, no. Or at least no more than any other rig can, because tangles happen. However, I'd avoid using this rig in any kind of rough weather.
Could you just use a small link clip to attach to the urfe rig swival? i just thinking of having different rigs to attach to try different lengths of trace etc
Yes you can. 😀
another great video. would you use this rig with a plain lead or a gripper.
You can use it with either, depending on the situation. If I'm targetting flatties etc, then I like a plain lead, so I can twitch and move the bait about. Bigger target fish or stronger tides may necessitate the use of a grip lead.
Having said all that, I reckon 90% of the time I'm using a plain lead when fishing an urfe rig.
Watched your video I want to do a 6-ft Trace 3 hooks what would you suggest on hook length
Hi Rodney. If using a short urfe rig like that I'd personally stick with just the one dropper, so two hooks in total. You can use a two foot dropper for this. If you did want to use three hooks then reduce the droppers to one foot long.
Don't go too light on the line either. Probably 0.40 main with 0.35 droppers.
Top man ….. Pro stuff….
Would you use this up to around 40 meters?
I've fished it at long range before. Can be a great option if fish are on the surface at distance as you can use a much longer snood than with a flapper.
Great instructional video, do you prefer doing them with a 2 way bead now instead of the water knot for droppers? Also when would you use an urfe? I’ve tried them but not sure in the right way
Not on the white or green lights Lloyd that's for sure 😆😆🏴
I do prefer the 2 way beads now over various methods I've tried. I tend to use an urfe when fishing calm conditions and when fishing is tough. They are great for certain species too, like bass, mullet, flatfish, bream etc.
Can i crimp it & put 3 way Swivels would that work
Not something I'd recommend no. The more components like swivels you use the more it'll tangle.
I think next time your out , it would be good to show people how to use them and what for , and cast them !!!! I use bagnall bars
I'm sure I'll sneak them in a video or two again soon.
should have used red line, would have seen it better, not sure how i would cast that out, even with the 15 foot backcaster, that rig seems much like the ones we were making 40 years ago for on the boat, just a french boom and 2 or 3 hooks coming off the one snood, of course it wasnt 12 foot long and we never used any plastic
You're right, coloured line would have been much better! D'oh!
Remember the snood trails the lead, so you can cast these on a 6 foot rod if you wanted to!
3 belows are very common practice on the boats for sure and have been for a long time as you say.