What I find amazing is the coordination and speed at which the pilots are doing things. I know, it's training, routine, they've done it a hundred times, but it's still incredible none the less. Thanks for uploading this video.
One of the better videos on this site. 99% of people shooting from the flightdeck point the camera out the window. Big deal. What all us enthusiasts want to see is the manipulation of controls by pilots, not out the window. Good job.
the speedbrake lever(spoilers lever) can be set to the setting "ARM" wich means the pilot pulls the lever down slightly to the "ARM" setting and that arms them, meaning they pop up automaticlly on touchdown
The 737 does have a pretty loud cockpit, and alot of pilots love the 737 and other Boeings; just like many pilots still love the DC-10. The wipers are not visible because it is all the way down below the windwhield, it is not visible unless you reach your head over the glareshield. There are ATC conversations at 1:16, and you can see the FO reach down to the radio panel to switch the frequency to 117.75.
i'm so impress with their dexterity in manipulating the switches and buttons. I don't even what are those for! Im so gonna learn it! Looks cool being a pilot
thanks for that, I had heard various reasons for shutting down engines in flight, and never thought they were practical, but your answer explained why that is NOT done. I should stop listening to those who give simple answers to complex questions
I live not far from Heathrow and watch these land daily, the noise from the reverse thrust is deafening. There was only one thing louder than it and that came every Tuesday roughly 12:00 or it might have been 18:00, the Concorde! It sounded unlike any other aircraft, almost as if it was ripping apart the molecules of air, the whole house vibrated especially the light fittings and glasses on the shelves.
Yeah your right, the NG versions have a really efficient wing if you start flaring to early they just float and float down the runway. Most tend to flare fairly late and fast to try to prevent a long landing.
Whoever is patient enough to see that after 2:10, you can see service cars and people walking outside... it is real. And also, the camera was mounted so that it wouldn't shake upon touchdown. Great vid!
You can compare the visuals from this movie to 1 of my 737NG cockpit movies, and decide for yourself if its a sim. See how much camera shake there is after touchdown with reverse thrust, and braking on a pretty smooth runway. Sims are very smooth during the landing roll-out, and the visuals are amazing these days.
@powpop1 You set auto-break min/medium/max(depending on the runway length) and the spoilers in some sort of a standby position. As soon as the hydraulics/systems of the gear/plane notice a "touchdown", the spoilers will automatically activate and the plane will be slowing down due to the break. You only activate the reverse thrust, as soon as you go slower than 60kts you de-activate it again in order to avoid engine damage.
@MrDaan747 They connect their route up through Waypoints and other navigation equipment which is then entered in the FMC and it draws the purple line on the Heading indicator.
When you've been in the flightdeck of a 737-800 (which I have), you notice that the bright light from outside gives a 'blinding' effect which makes the cockpit look darker. Also, there are moving cars outside, and the plane vibrates more than it shakes, which the simulators don't tend to do.
Yep I heard it. And this time I actually noticed it too. It's very sneaky if you don't pay close attention to it, but the noise helps to seek it out. Thanks ^_^
It is actually pretty easy to learn what a single button does. When I was studying to become a pilot I thought that it was harder to learn flight vocabulary than buttons.
The camera doesn't move because it is mounted. Also, you can see reflections from the runway lights on the wall to the right of the camera, so it is real.
That's the master caution switch, and pilots push it each time, so that when a new problem comes up, the are alerted again. This way, they don't ignore the indicator. Also, they can bring up all of the problems by pressing recall. Just FYI stuff.
CaptainZ1627: It depends, usually it is not a problem. depending on the distance from center of thrust to the nosewheel, it could be a factor, but with proper differential braking I dont see it as a major problem.
Awesome landing, cool stuff! olsonr, it is called a GPWS (ground proximity warning system). Aircraft now have EGPWS installed (enhanced GPWS). EGPWS, I think, has included "TERRAIN TERRAIN" warning i.e. too close to the ground in the wrong config.
@daniel30650 Actually it was manual, at no point in this video was autopilot engaged, plus they shouldn't have it on anyway. There was a perfect visibility and they used ILS to lineup.
For everyone's information, this is not a Full Motion Simulator. Its a real 737 cockpit, there is no such thing as a simulator that can move Captain and First Officer like that. Also, if it was a Simulator, then the lightings inside will be much darker even though flying during a day. Watch carefully.
@motormusic1 the change that you crash with a car or even getting hit by a vehicle when walking in the city is so much bigger than crashing with an aircraft. you should be afraid when you take a taxi to the airport. the 737 is a very good aircraft and about that steering: the captain turned a little bit to the left. thats why it moved slowly. and in the air you don't need to turn real fast.
@FSX09pilot The allowed maximum is 20 knots, but for curves you shouldn't go over 15 knots. Also try to not stop in curves, because you'll need a lot of power to accelerate! For straight parts, it's ok to speed up to a bit less than 20 knots. But remember to reduce thrust as soon as you're near a curve... just because breaking means wasting energy!
Yep thats bull. In certain daylight conditions and directions a cockpit can be dark and require panel lights. Its a real landing, especially when they pull up at the gate and there is all sorts of busyness going on outside like random traffic (white van at 2mins for instance).
Because I do not want to let a question without a answer. When I remenber correct it is 4.4 ft/sec.! To know it correctly I have to spend a look in manuals, like the F/O! The video is top and the landing is wonderful!
Descision height isn't regulated by any scientific institutes, it's decided on by the crew through the FMC, as the DH varies depending upon visibility and other factors.
to kissklassics: For one thing, the camera does shake a bit at 0:33 or so. also, no simulator can simulate the landing gear hitting the centerline lights like this.
The co-pilot definitely landed that plane, his hands were on the throttle and lok how relaxed the captain looked. Yes the yoke was being moved like that by the pilot.
I fly 737 300s and we're just having our sky windows taken out, its amazing the difference in light levels they make! This 737 ng doesn't have any sky windows so its going to be quite dark.
@HHan13 Nope. Runway lights reflect off the side-wall in the flight deck. Sims don't thud when the nose wheel makes contact with the runway and you don't get AI trucks that look as good as the real thing. Oh and you can see a person walking in the distance just before the end of the vid :)
video real, plus one thing i dont think anybody mentioned about the speedbrake is the reason why it was armed was the green light just above the captains ND, thats the light that say the speedbrake is armed
Oh, fair enough, sorry about that! I fly a whole bunch of piston twins, ranging from the smaller partenavia P-68, through to midsize C303 and Islanders, all the way up to C404, all single pilot which is great fun and really challenging. I also do a bit of freelance and instructional work, eg ferrying a TB-20 from England to Abu Dhabi, which few pilots get to do these days. I'm young so want to vary my flying whilst I have the chance and move onto buisness jets later.
I think it was the F/O flying because the yolks move together and you can't see the captain's hands, and since the F/O is controlling the throttles, it's likely that he's flying as well.
The pilots did not cutoff the fuel until after docking, as shown by the two announciator lights above the captain's head. It's a common misperception that planes save fuel by flying with one engine off, the inop engine actually produces drag and put alot of strain on the other engine. Some airlines do have procedures for one engine taxi, since taxing does not involve aerodynamics, but as we see here, Austrian (Lauda) does not have such procedures for its pilots.
Yeah fair enough, but most pilots I know (including myself) handfly onto the localiser, usually because your being radar vectored and I think it makes it easier, and also because who wants to be turning knobs all the time rather than actually flying the plane! Also, you dont start descending once established on the localiser, you always intercept glidepath from below, you hold localiser and wait for the bar to drop to you, then start the descent, but i'm probably just being pedantic now!
Not necessarily, because you can't see either of their hands and the yolks move together. Usually the one landing the plane is also the one controlling the throttles, in this case the F/O
thanks i did see it strange that they use the pedals to steer the aircraft on the ground cause everytime i watched an aircraft moving i never saw the rudder or the winglets on the wings(which i forgot what they are called) moving but many thanks.
Did you watch the end of the video when they turn off the simulator and the screen fades out? Also, modern simulators do portray the "bouncing" on landing as well as turbulence.
Simple: thrust = increased airflow over wings = more lift = nose goes up. Powering up after touchdown doesn't lower the nose, it pulls it up, which is, err, how planes take off...
Frederic333, you are right to be suspicious of the scratchless windscreen and the quiet cockpit. I was lucky enough to fly with easyjet in the flight deck of an a319 a couple of days ago, and I must say that it is unbeleivably quiet in there, you can barely hear the engines at all! As for the camera, I think it might be attatched to the wall above the circuit breakers, hence the small vibrations, and I assume that the resolution is too low to be able to notice bird crap on the glass :D
The reason that the Captain keeps his hand on the Speed Brake/Spoiler is it acts as a reminder to him that they are in use. Otherwise you might forget they are deployed when trying to make a Go-Around, which would really deminish your climb!
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What I find amazing is the coordination and speed at which the pilots are doing things. I know, it's training, routine, they've done it a hundred times, but it's still incredible none the less. Thanks for uploading this video.
Both the cockpit and the outside are clearly visible. And it's nice to see the F/O controlling the throttle! Really well done!
good thing there are people out there that love flying and are good at it. So many frickin buttons and switches! I really admire pilots.
this vid is way cool. so intense.
i love watching the captain doing flow checks after landing, real smooth.
I want to be a pilot so badly. They do it so flawlessly. Its impressive.
One of the better videos on this site. 99% of people shooting from the flightdeck point the camera out the window. Big deal. What all us enthusiasts want to see is the manipulation of controls by pilots, not out the window. Good job.
the speedbrake lever(spoilers lever) can be set to the setting "ARM" wich means the pilot pulls the lever down slightly to the "ARM" setting and that arms them, meaning they pop up automaticlly on touchdown
The 737 does have a pretty loud cockpit, and alot of pilots love the 737 and other Boeings; just like many pilots still love the DC-10. The wipers are not visible because it is all the way down below the windwhield, it is not visible unless you reach your head over the glareshield. There are ATC conversations at 1:16, and you can see the FO reach down to the radio panel to switch the frequency to 117.75.
This has to be one of my favorite videos on the 737-700, or 800!
i'm so impress with their dexterity in manipulating the switches and buttons. I don't even what are those for! Im so gonna learn it! Looks cool being a pilot
thanks for that, I had heard various reasons for shutting down engines in flight, and never thought they were practical, but your answer explained why that is NOT done. I should stop listening to those who give simple answers to complex questions
I live not far from Heathrow and watch these land daily, the noise from the reverse thrust is deafening. There was only one thing louder than it and that came every Tuesday roughly 12:00 or it might have been 18:00, the Concorde! It sounded unlike any other aircraft, almost as if it was ripping apart the molecules of air, the whole house vibrated especially the light fittings and glasses on the shelves.
Yeah your right, the NG versions have a really efficient wing if you start flaring to early they just float and float down the runway. Most tend to flare fairly late and fast to try to prevent a long landing.
well ya your right. on the newer airplanes they have a control above the throttle but some older ones you have to pull it all the way back
Excellant video. Great landing. I find it amazing how quick you guys are working through your workflows.
Whoever is patient enough to see that after 2:10, you can see service cars and people walking outside... it is real. And also, the camera was mounted so that it wouldn't shake upon touchdown. Great vid!
What a landing!!!! that yoke was going in 50 directions!!!
awesome video man!!! This is the best job ever!!! ohh i cant help but become one.
That's a bit improvised and fast landing. It is totally a style of whoever this pilot is. And I love it. I love improvised landings.
I've never flown a 737, but it looks like he really scooped that landing out at the bottom. The countdown from 50' came pretty fast.
You can compare the visuals from this movie to 1 of my 737NG cockpit movies, and decide for yourself if its a sim. See how much camera shake there is after touchdown with reverse thrust, and braking on a pretty smooth runway. Sims are very smooth during the landing roll-out, and the visuals are amazing these days.
Don't know what some of you are talking about.
These men just do know very well their machine.
Perfect landing.
@jonweinraub
No. That is the Ground Proximity Warning System. It calls out the radio height above ground level.
feel so safe after seeing this landing , thank you so much !
im totally wanna be pilot....how often i watch this video...its inspired me ....impressive...
@powpop1
You set auto-break min/medium/max(depending on the runway length) and the spoilers in some sort of a standby position. As soon as the hydraulics/systems of the gear/plane notice a "touchdown", the spoilers will automatically activate and the plane will be slowing down due to the break. You only activate the reverse thrust, as soon as you go slower than 60kts you de-activate it again in order to avoid engine damage.
Best Landing I Have EVER SEEN!
holy shit? smoothest flare i have ever seen in my entire life
@MrDaan747 They connect their route up through Waypoints and other navigation equipment which is then entered in the FMC and it draws the purple line on the Heading indicator.
Perfect flare!!! Fast and precise, altough I wouldn't try it many frequently.
When you've been in the flightdeck of a 737-800 (which I have), you notice that the bright light from outside gives a 'blinding' effect which makes the cockpit look darker. Also, there are moving cars outside, and the plane vibrates more than it shakes, which the simulators don't tend to do.
Great Teamwork, they went through everything really quick.
The landing is soooo perfect you can´t even believe it. It´s perfect!
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Gute Idee, die Kamera fest zu installieren! Super Video!
@RockyRaccoonsFriend Because the 737-800 is a beautiful modern airliner. For those who know the procedures, it is rather interesting too.
Yep I heard it. And this time I actually noticed it too. It's very sneaky if you don't pay close attention to it, but the noise helps to seek it out. Thanks ^_^
It is actually pretty easy to learn what a single button does. When I was studying to become a pilot I thought that it was harder to learn flight vocabulary than buttons.
The camera doesn't move because it is mounted. Also, you can see reflections from the runway lights on the wall to the right of the camera, so it is real.
Smooth landing!Great video. Screwing the camera on the jumpseat resulted in a perfect picture!Well done!
you are the best damn pilot i have ever seen land planes in all three of your videos. your a pro
That's the master caution switch, and pilots push it each time, so that when a new problem comes up, the are alerted again. This way, they don't ignore the indicator. Also, they can bring up all of the problems by pressing recall. Just FYI stuff.
lol how fast they are with the switches on the top!
respect to all pilots o.O
man, they make it look so easy. very impressive!
CaptainZ1627: It depends, usually it is not a problem. depending on the distance from center of thrust to the nosewheel, it could be a factor, but with proper differential braking I dont see it as a major problem.
60 kts relase spoilers and reversers.
1:11-runway turnoff lights, landing lights, and strobe lights off.
1:28-APU start. Course knobs reset.
@jeanorwin correction here, u activate reverse thrust upon touchdown, and deactivate RT at 60 kts to prevent damage:)
No, it just looks like that. The yokes move in Unison by a control mechanism. FO landed it, watch him controlling the thrust levers.
Awesome landing, cool stuff!
olsonr, it is called a GPWS (ground proximity warning system). Aircraft now have EGPWS installed (enhanced GPWS). EGPWS, I think, has included "TERRAIN TERRAIN" warning i.e. too close to the ground in the wrong config.
flyboy...I agree. Except for a little shaking, the cockpit never moves only the outside does.
The camera is screwed into the jumpseat headrest so it has a solid foundation to give us a smooth shot rather than a shaky one.
No, most have been logo light which is being switched on mostly when passing 10000ft.
You can only put them on our off. Or they are inop :)
The nose gear running over the taxiway centre lights, they protrude out of the pavement just a little, just enough to be felt.
Love the clapping coming from the peanut gallery.
Perfect landing as the book. Congratulations riders. SUPERB!. I see a movie on YOU TUBE. Perfect Landing
CONGRATULATIONS Guys! 5 stars
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@daniel30650 Actually it was manual, at no point in this video was autopilot engaged, plus they shouldn't have it on anyway. There was a perfect visibility and they used ILS to lineup.
For everyone's information, this is not a Full Motion Simulator. Its a real 737 cockpit, there is no such thing as a simulator that can move Captain and First Officer like that. Also, if it was a Simulator, then the lightings inside will be much darker even though flying during a day. Watch carefully.
"Any landing you can walk from, is a good landing!"
Your right though, I just played it again and he does move that thing arround. I wonder if there were a lot of winds.
@motormusic1
the change that you crash with a car or even getting hit by a vehicle when walking in the city is so much bigger than crashing with an aircraft. you should be afraid when you take a taxi to the airport.
the 737 is a very good aircraft and about that steering: the captain turned a little bit to the left. thats why it moved slowly.
and in the air you don't need to turn real fast.
@FSX09pilot The allowed maximum is 20 knots, but for curves you shouldn't go over 15 knots. Also try to not stop in curves, because you'll need a lot of power to accelerate! For straight parts, it's ok to speed up to a bit less than 20 knots. But remember to reduce thrust as soon as you're near a curve... just because breaking means wasting energy!
Wow! he flared it at about 3 inches..... nice landing !
yeh the spoilers are armed, the spoilers lever is puloled down a bit and the plane pops them on touchdown
Yep thats bull. In certain daylight conditions and directions a cockpit can be dark and require panel lights.
Its a real landing, especially when they pull up at the gate and there is all sorts of busyness going on outside like random traffic (white van at 2mins for instance).
Because I do not want to let a question without a answer. When I remenber correct it is 4.4 ft/sec.! To know it correctly I have to spend a look in manuals, like the F/O!
The video is top and the landing is wonderful!
that was one hell of a landing
Descision height isn't regulated by any scientific institutes, it's decided on by the crew through the FMC, as the DH varies depending upon visibility and other factors.
to kissklassics: For one thing, the camera does shake a bit at 0:33 or so. also, no simulator can simulate the landing gear hitting the centerline lights like this.
The co-pilot definitely landed that plane, his hands were on the throttle and lok how relaxed the captain looked. Yes the yoke was being moved like that by the pilot.
No.. planes on the ground use a tiller to turn not rudders.. so unless the plane was skidding sideways across the pavement it would not be much diff.
the pilot to the left is driving it like a car..
one hand on the wheel and one on his lap chillin.
:p mad skill.
I fly 737 300s and we're just having our sky windows taken out, its amazing the difference in light levels they make! This 737 ng doesn't have any sky windows so its going to be quite dark.
i love when he smashes the thrust reverser forward :D
The captain is really fast..nice landing guys.
@HHan13 Nope. Runway lights reflect off the side-wall in the flight deck. Sims don't thud when the nose wheel makes contact with the runway and you don't get AI trucks that look as good as the real thing. Oh and you can see a person walking in the distance just before the end of the vid :)
video real, plus one thing i dont think anybody mentioned about the speedbrake is the reason why it was armed was the green light just above the captains ND, thats the light that say the speedbrake is armed
yep didn't think of it that way :P
cause the camera was pointed at the captain so I thought he is in control
That looked alittle intense. Good vid.
Oh, fair enough, sorry about that!
I fly a whole bunch of piston twins, ranging from the smaller partenavia P-68, through to midsize C303 and Islanders, all the way up to C404, all single pilot which is great fun and really challenging. I also do a bit of freelance and instructional work, eg ferrying a TB-20 from England to Abu Dhabi, which few pilots get to do these days. I'm young so want to vary my flying whilst I have the chance and move onto buisness jets later.
That depends on the software version of the airplane. Either it does it or not. You can't turn it on or off.
I think it was the F/O flying because the yolks move together and you can't see the captain's hands, and since the F/O is controlling the throttles, it's likely that he's flying as well.
The pilots did not cutoff the fuel until after docking, as shown by the two announciator lights above the captain's head. It's a common misperception that planes save fuel by flying with one engine off, the inop engine actually produces drag and put alot of strain on the other engine. Some airlines do have procedures for one engine taxi, since taxing does not involve aerodynamics, but as we see here, Austrian (Lauda) does not have such procedures for its pilots.
i guess it is about the reverse. if you leave the thrust a little on, the reverse's efficiency is much better after landing
737 Braking rates are well google-able, downloadable, and otherwise easy to find. 737 is a great plane none the less..
Yeah fair enough, but most pilots I know (including myself) handfly onto the localiser, usually because your being radar vectored and I think it makes it easier, and also because who wants to be turning knobs all the time rather than actually flying the plane!
Also, you dont start descending once established on the localiser, you always intercept glidepath from below, you hold localiser and wait for the bar to drop to you, then start the descent, but i'm probably just being pedantic now!
I can't believe people think this is a sim. It was an awesome landing.
@hourbuilder boeing 737 does not have a 40 ft call out. it jumps directly from 50 to 30
Not necessarily, because you can't see either of their hands and the yolks move together. Usually the one landing the plane is also the one controlling the throttles, in this case the F/O
thanks i did see it strange that they use the pedals to steer the aircraft on the ground cause everytime i watched an aircraft moving i never saw the rudder or the winglets on the wings(which i forgot what they are called) moving but many thanks.
Did you watch the end of the video when they turn off the simulator and the screen fades out? Also, modern simulators do portray the "bouncing" on landing as well as turbulence.
yea but it shows that without a big flare the main wheels touched first anbd u can actually see it
Great Landing!
Thanks for that, great answer
Very good landing!
Gotta love checklists!
u notice when they off the course n stuff like that, a warning light comes on, then the captin pushes it to reset it
Me too. Its a little bit dark in there for a normal sunny day, isn't it?
Simple:
thrust = increased airflow over wings = more lift = nose goes up. Powering up after touchdown doesn't lower the nose, it pulls it up, which is, err, how planes take off...
Frederic333, you are right to be suspicious of the scratchless windscreen and the quiet cockpit. I was lucky enough to fly with easyjet in the flight deck of an a319 a couple of days ago, and I must say that it is unbeleivably quiet in there, you can barely hear the engines at all! As for the camera, I think it might be attatched to the wall above the circuit breakers, hence the small vibrations, and I assume that the resolution is too low to be able to notice bird crap on the glass :D
The reason that the Captain keeps his hand on the Speed Brake/Spoiler is it acts as a reminder to him that they are in use. Otherwise you might forget they are deployed when trying to make a Go-Around, which would really deminish your climb!
That's a handle used when getting in the seat. He was just letting his hand hang in it for a second.