Initial Pros & Cons After Adding SSF Vortices and Bitbox Micro // Modular Eurorack Synth Walkthrough
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
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0:00 Preview
0:30 Agenda
1:00 New Audio Path
3:05 Vortices Detail
6:10 Golden Master's Stereo Width
9:06 New Output Structure
10:10 Bitbox Micro
20:19 Final HP Ideas / Needs
23:59 More Bitbox Complaints
25:26 Outro Noise
This looks like a really well thought out performance system! Thank you for the inspiration, good stuff 😌
the stereo manipulation in this patch sounds fantastic!
been so excited to hear what you think about the bit box micro
mixed feelings so far, clearly powerful - but I just tend to bounce off these detailed interfaces so quickly. Trying to push through to see if I can get to happy spot and not have it go the same route as the Sample Drum did for me
@@thismeanswarbasse getting back to this late, sorry - how often did you feel the module was lacking with menu diving/glitching? was it just when you really pushed the module, or was it nearly every time you used it?
@@MelonSprout really just anytime I used it. Not quite glitching, but it was clearly designed for a very particular mode of use that just didnt align with what I hoped. It feels like its supposed to be so incredibly flexible, but once you poke and test that flexibility you realize its not well thought out and has many dead ends. Even something as simple as only working in 4/4 time or only allowing midi control of some parameters feels innately not-modular to me. I've since sold it and am happy its gone
@@thismeanswarbasse thanks so much for the info. I have seen it around so much, that it’s hard to believe it can be so unintuitive and reliant on menu dives. Not really what I came to modular for, so I appreciate you pointing those things oht
I like the way you're fully committing to this resampling idea. Gonna try something similar with my reflex.
Is that the Reflex LiveLoop? if so please let me know how it goes. I was looking at that but thought I'd start with a bitbox as a first attempt.
@@thismeanswarbasse I'll let you know, but pretty sure the solution you have already is better. I sometimes route my output through it and sample a minute or so, so I can re-patch and do slow-down/rewind sounds on the whole mix. It's not as technical or permanent a solution as what you have.
I use the Roland Scooper to do what you're doing. I sample the whole output of the case in 1 button press then change drums and mix those back in and fade out the Scooper. I just ordered a Bitbox Micro to manage samples.
since the Axys is a stereo crossfader you can use the second crossfader to crossfade between "clean" and distortion outputs of both your 100 grits. I run my kick through a 100grit and use the crossfade of the vortices for both outputs. I find it gives me better control over the sound.
Could send signals from a multi mode filter through the second axys channel to crossfade between the low and high passed signal for build ups and such
I know it’s not a multi effect, but Electus/Desmosus Versio is absolutely incredible reverb. You can high / low pass the effect with the module. You can also choose how the dynamics are handled and the distortion mode sounds awesome. Plus, the shimmer mode is also great. Plus, the Ruina firmware is another wacky distortion (not that you need MORE, but I’m sure you’d appreciate it lol).
happy to hear, I've had my eye on Desmodus for a while. this might be the time to give it a shot
@@thismeanswarbasse The desmodus is incredible. I have two. Get one.
Get one. There are quite a few alt firmwares that are a bunch of fun, including some non-official ones like Multi Versio, a general do-anything multimode multieffect
You can start the recordings inside the different cells via MIDI, or even via different gate inputs if I remember correctly…
Also MIDI is the more stable way of synching the bitbox, as far as my research vent back in the days :)
Did you look at the Morphagene as a module for live looping? The more I play with different modules, the more I find that immediacy in interface design is key for the improv style of modular performance. I'm growing cranky about encoders and similar digitizer UI getting in the way of my performance. Despite the arcane symbology, Make Noise has some thoughtful design around immediacy and analog UI.
I hadn't, I've always been turned off by the whole reel-prepping and placing markers and SD card flow. Does it work well for live sampling and do you think I could trigger the recording to start/stop/play with the drum sequencer? That'd be a fun and very performative approach if so
@@thismeanswarbasse I'm sorry I don't have direct experience and had some of the same belief as you about functionality. However I was reading the manual and the recording start time is synced to that pulse. Also the play input will initiate playback on a high signal. That leaves splice selection which is 0-5v on organize CV. Not sure how easy that is to control though especially once you're 3 loops locked. Maybe a bit too chaos?
your vid inspired me to do the same setup in my system, but im using the JROO loop. its a stereo looper and recording and playback can both be triggered externally. its just a switch flick to start recording, another flick to end recording, and then turn the dry wet all the way up to hear the loop rather than use a crossfader. could be worth looking into
oh sounds like a neat approach. I don't know JROO, will have to check it out. I've added a morphagene to handle this now actually, which when clocked right works pretty well
Hey love the this idea, reminds me of how some people use the oktatrack and I kinda need this in my case/life... What's the module that you are using to x-fade (not the intellijel x fade but the one next to the befaco OUT)
I mention this in later videos, but that bitbox micro only lasted a week or two before I sold it. Hated the UI.
I bailed on the looping idea for a while (which you’re right is like spot on and inspired by those octatrack hybrid setups) - but I’ve recently discovered Morphagene can do this really well and even handle the cross fading. I’ve got some little practice videos up more recently that show this and once I get it a bit more polished I’m going to do a bigger detailed walkthrough to explain, but it’s working really well to do that looping / saving so far.
That little crossfader is I think just called “fader” or “f” made by Instruo, it’s mono so I usually mix cv or in this case one channel of a cue track.
I’m sure you are all over this, but might be worth a deep dive into the clip launcher “mode” I’ve got a micro on order for a similar purpose and was hoping this would do the trick, but if you can’t work it out I have no hope 😋
The ALM MFX might fit nicely if you switch over to the Morphagene for your sampler/looper. Less hands on, but only 6 hp. The FX AIDs are also quite good, but it doesn't seem like the interface would gel with your approach (I am very much a knob-per-function guy myself). Also, gotta say, you've sold me on the Golden Master as a killer end-of-chain utility.
U should rock the happynerding fx aid or fix aid xl if u havnt already it would be just right for your end of chain reverb needs
Had the 4hp fx aid and though it sounded good it was awful to use. I also think the bigger size versions just aren’t super compelling in their design or extra offerings
How are you liking Vortices so far? I’ve been wanting to get it for feedback patching (I run low headroom/high gain, as well)
I need to give it more time I think - but I will say, part of me is tempted to just admit I'm too hooked on the stereo matrix mixing approach I've got in my A case and that I just want to have another one for this case too...
Does the new 4ms sampler work for your needs?
Actually nevermind it doesn’t do quantized recording
I figure anything beyond bitbox would need to be quantized by triggering the record start/stop on beat with the drum sequencer or something... so possible, but needs its own management. Worth taking a look at for sure
@@thismeanswarbasse there’s always some way to do a workaround in eurorack haha
I'd love to see a version of BitBox that has 32-bit float inputs (to avoid any clipping issues) and lets you record 4 audio channels at once.
I wish WMD would do another issue of the Overseer as well! I love my AXYS but it's missing its partner...
agreed. so far it feels really close but at the same time clearly designed around a particular workflow. I'm tempted to give the 4ms STS a shot instead but I haven't found an example of someone leveraging it in this way yet
@@thismeanswarbasse I was about to ask if you had had a look at the 4MS Sampler. It clearly is more limited than a BitBox but probably more immediate as well. And cheaper 😅 In any case I really like this idea of setup, feels like a mix of an external looper à la Blawan and the crossfader of an Octatrack. Probably the way to go for a small-ish case.
4ms looping delay 👍👍 way easier to get everything in time no menus etc . They also do a single channel one now
haven’t checked that one out. I’ll give it a look!