What an entry into the pedal market! | Sim Lab XP1 Simracing Pedals - Review and Test
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
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0:00 Intro and Disclaimer
0:17 What's in the Box
2:56 Build Quality
4:05 Closer Look Throttle
8:38 Closer Look Brake
13:51 Electronics
16:22 Race Director Software
21:02 On the Track
27:06 Verdict
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You can get the Simagic Haptic Mount here: r3designz.com/product/sim-lab-xp1-bracket-for-simagic-hpr-digital-file-only-stl/
The inserts for the screw holes can be grabbed here (you need to be on the SimLab Discord): discord.com/channels/803205182899879967/803211731253723157/1187794308603056220
Is there somewhere else to get the adapters? I ordered them but haven't heard back from the Seller
r3designz dont ship to germany. Have you had any problems with delivery to Germany?
@@iuiuz664 it's a digital download
Thanks Dan!! And a lot of tips for us to implement!!
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I just bought these! Really impressed so far!
Another great video! Thaks for also featuring the haptic 3D printed part I designed. greatly appreciated :)
oh awesome you made it? very nice design, got the file from simlab directly - do you have a link so people that are interested can grab it?
Would be interested in purchasing, where can I pick please?
@@ciaranconnor4466 I tried to paste the link here but it keeps getting deleted.. hmm
@@DanSuzuki Hi Dan, wondering why when i paste the link here it keeps getting delete ? thanks
@@ryansgarage214 Hm no idea to be honest ... maybe some moderation setting I have enabled by accident 🤔 Is this your link? r3designz.com/product/sim-lab-xp1-bracket-for-simagic-hpr-digital-file-only-stl/
I bought these pedals at launch and am very happy overall. Had some interference with the control box until I changed my setup around but the pedals are incredible. I wish companies would fit electromagnetic shielding to their products as standard.
On the point about the "secret" port, I took part in a Simlab questionnaire where they asked what I'd like to see them "manufacture" next. The secret port is probably so they can build connection to a wheelbase or peripherals in the future. Just a hunch but I'm guessing a wheelbase is in the works. You heard it here first if its true 😆
I just bought this and used your discount code, thank you Dan.
Extremely helpful video. I now know what direction I want to head in. Thank you!!!!
Hi Dan! Excited to see you finally review these. Happy to see I wasn't insane when I bought these right after release haha. Would you be kind enough to link me the screw hole covers for the pedal faces? I looked on the sim-lab discord and tried looking for an STL and couldn't find one.
Best review on these pedals yet. I’ve had them since launch and am delighted to now learn I can fit the SimMagic haptics. I see you have a haptic on the accelerator, can this indicate tyre slip in iRacing?
I've been SIM racing since 2008 and this feels like to me we are in the golden age. So much good kit out at the moment. Using a Logitech g25 back in the day on a single monitor felt like how can this get any better, and here we are. 😂
Just picked a set of these up today for $400 USD on sale cant wait to get them in upgrading from TM T3PA Pros was seriously consedering VNMs but for the price couldnt pass em up & the VNM software dosent look the greatest. Great video Dan
This is doing to be my next pedal set. I’m in the process of replacing everything Fanatec.
Great review, I also always thought these pedals are a good recommendation, so I am glad to see confirmation on this! I am one of those dudes, who paid way too much on his pedal setup and kind of felt regret when the SimLab pedals came out, hahahaha =).
But people can learn from those mistakes... nothing against Asetek and the others, those are great pedals, but I also think that SimLab for example are way better in terms of value.
Consistently great reviews. I appreciate the efficiency and attention to detail, just subbed!
Btw, how do you feel about these pedals compared to the SRP?
Great review, thank you! A comment to all pedal reviewers; it would be great to cover options on how to mount the pedals (and other gear) to your rig.
Super interested in these for sure that travel on that brake is beautiful.
That brake may be my favorite. Im used to the elite v2s so its similiar. But these are better for suralso the travel is like a real race car. People think they dont move but they do. Around 2 to 3 inches.
Good thing simlab able to sent thoose to you, i have to cancel my order b.cuz they have a production problems back in the day.. anyways ggs.
I have these and they are great! Where can you get the adapter for the haptics?
Excellent review, as always.
I am between the Simgrade and the Sim-Lab.
Will you review the simgrade?
Thanks a lot.
These are one of the best price/performance/quality options to consider. Most reviews of them are positive but I was also interested with their design how it makes them ideal for additional Simhub based tactile. Now @Dan Suzuki, how do I convice you to try out a tactile solution for them with custom made effects I can share with you. One that goes beyond what the HPR offers but is, affordable and easy to implement.
How do you feel about the differences between VRS and these on the progressive braking feel? That’s one thing that is really hanging me up on choosing between the two. I really like the mechanism VRS brakes have that are present in clutches, enabling that pad -> rotor contact feel. How would you articulate between the two?
XP01 user here - really happy so far. I'm curious: Did you end up with the 50 elastomer? Can you share your race director profile? Thanks for the great review!
Dan, I have the 3 pedal set and I really like them. Where did you find the file for the 3D printed screw covers. I've looked all over and can't find one. Great review of the pedals!
Dan pinned the link above the first comment.
Hello Dan. Would you take the Simlab xp1 or the simagic p1000. Which Pedals are better. 🤷🤷
Since i have the VRS pedals I feel the need to avoid elastomer spring pedals.
That system is clever thought out. No need to look further IMO.
Great pedal set. I have mine since December.
Be careful thought :
- the throttle pedal rotation axis screws got lose. Fortunately, I heard the noise before it became too late
- I had a grey part replacement (quick and free) because a screws thread (for the pedal tilting) got destroyed. I swear, I never use any electric tool to adjust the height. Only by hand, and no more the 4 times before it broke
- squeaking : I solved it by putting the recommended grease. Two times. The first one on the metal rod. And because after two hours, it came back a little, the second time everywhere : inside the elastomer, inside the spring and elastomer cups. It's silent now !
Now, everything is fine. I'll check the throttle response curve. That was never a question for me, I did not notice anything. But note that I had a Thrustmaster T3PA Pro before, so, many things to learn, or adjust, little by little ! And a lot of training still ahead !
And it's tempting to add one or two of these Simagic feedback things !
Hey Dan! great review as usual! You had a review of the Simagic P1000 where you said those were the pedals you would use if you didn't have the Ultimates. Do the XP1 replace that? I'm looking at both pedal sets and looking for any feedback on which you would say are the better option overall?
There is no better in the world of pedals - just different 😊
Love mine.
I went from Sprints to Invicats then these and I think they are great value.
I nearly went for the simmagic ones bust something about the XP1s just felt a better idea. No regrets
I have the Invicta and i love them. what made you change for these pedals?!
@MrJMHP didn't get on with the Invictas. Can't really say more than that, didn't matter what settings I used it never felt right.
I was consistently slower than guys that I usually was on par or quicker than. I stuck with them for 15 months. But just not for me.
@@octane55 Yes, pedals always depend on personal taste. The short and hard movement of the Invicta is an asset for me in gaining muscle memory. I'm going to add a simagic haptic motor Tha and I believe it will be an asset for better immersion in the game. Thanks for your feedback.
Do you think they are really better than the Sprints? These look cooler to me but I love my Sprints so much I can’t justify switching unless they are legit better.
@@MadMike991 for me yes they are better.
Somebody should make a simple good-feeling clutch pedal that we can just add to any 2-pedal sets
Great and honest as always! How do you compare to the likes of Simgrade vx-pro? Same or?
different philosophy, but also very good - you can't go wrong with either option imo
Hi Dan! I've bought these pedal in pre-order at launch, and I'm pretty happy with them! I've the same configuration as you with the simagic hapitc motor on the brake, one crazy comparison... Do you believe there is a big difference between this and active pedal? In terms of feelings and configurability in the software? Would worth the upgrade just for the brake? Thank you in advance and thank you for all the aweome reviews :)
Yes, it’s a huge difference compared to simucube 😅
@@DanSuzuki Thank you very much for your point of view 😁 Anyway, first, I need to fix the “skill issue” 😂
Ive been debating between the sim-labs and forte pedals. Im in the asetek eco-system, but, the sim-labs are just gorgeous and seems mounting is almost universal.
not even close between those 2, the simlab are a lot better in my opinion
@@DanSuzuki I don't think I can pass on the sim labs
How do these pedals conpare to the p1000 from sinagic?
Great video Dan ❤, just have a quick question. Really hard to choose between, money aside….(HE+ w Simmagic brake motor, P1000 Hydraulic, VRS, or Simlab). I understand they’re all great in their own way we’re talking minor minor things here but, really looking high adjustability & most of all a great feeling of control coming off the brakes.. currently my sprints with the elastomers and no damper the pedal returns to quickly and find inconsistency over stint sometimes with maybe heating of elastomers or such. Just looking for your opinion on what you would go with of those options, considering what I mentioned. Thank you!
Sounds like you want simething with damping - id recommend Ultimates then!
@@DanSuzuki Thanks mate, Highly appreciated ✨
Any idea if Simcore pedal plates would work on these?
Hey Dan , these pedals or Asetek invicta?
currently using these with a $200 4nm belt driven thrust master from 2016 😂 can’t afford a new wheel rn
Die Xp1 oder die P1000? Welche würdest du im Moment bevorzugen? Sind ja preislich sehr, sehr ähnlich. Danke für das Review, immer wieder gut 👍
Abschieben oder Abnehmen?
How would these compare with the simagic pedals?
Currently thinking about buying these or the Simagic P1000s. How would you say do they compare to each other?
you can't go wrong with either tbh, I would probably get the simlab but I can't even objectively tell you why - just a gut feeling ...
@@DanSuzuki Ok then I will take what ever is availible first at SimRaceShop 😅Thanks for the additional input Wise Men
I have the P1000s and I am pleased by them but I have minor doubts about the used load cells. As I could also see the fading issue with the brake pedal, I exchanged the elastomers with springs. To my surprise, the phenomena still exists. Therefore, my only idea is that it must be down to the load cell. If anyone has a guess what else it could be, I would be more than happy to hear it. At this point I would rather go with the SimLab XP1 as I until now also only made good experiences with SimLab products.
How do these compare to the VRS set? I orginally wanted to upgrade to the XP1 from my Fanatec v3s but, after I found your video and similair sentiments that the VRS set is the best for sim racing I was planning on going that way.
Under $1000 would you go VRS, XP1, or something else?
vrs. a friend of mine just got the xp1. had replacements delivered by simlab to his door but still they were clicky and squeeky. the shafts were made of low quality rods. there was no lubricant. customer service is very good tho but i would skip it.
I cant speak on the VRS pedals as the highest price/tier pedals I've owned are the XP1's. I believe the XP1's have much more in terms of adjustment (Both range and number of things you can adjust). Regarding the other commenters mention of squeaky pedals, using the recommended grease solved the problem entirely for me. I did also notice a "Clickiness" as if the brake pedal was "Sticky" (Best word to describe honestly). The stickiness and squeaking go hand-in-hand, and using the recommended lubricant in the manual solved each for me
i can get the p1000 or the XP 1 for 600. Which one would you currently recommend?
Hey Dan! I have these pedals. And I love them. My control box comes with micro usb. How big of an improvement is the USB C??
Thanks in advance.
nothing, it will work just fine - no performance difference, I just hate micro usb :D
@@DanSuzuki perfect! thanks man
Such a positive review from every tester, and these pedals are "amazing," but...
- face plates require aftermarket DIY covers to be comfortable with socks
- non-linear hall sensor and no way to correct this in the software
- squeaky hardware out of the box (none of my many pedals have ever done this)
- heels can rub on the adjustment dials when wearing socks
- weirdly filtered brake feel
Objectively speaking, these are all issues that shouldn't be present. How did Sim Lab let any of the above issues get through the development and testing phase? I wish reviewers were more critical because no, these don't sound all that amazing. Not all of these will be issues for everyone, of course, but it just seems crazy to me that they exist at all.
Yep... i realite most reviews are a mix of Advertisement sadly...
Real critic is very rare...
I hae also a squeaky handbrake. Not too amazed by the design and quality...
you can easily correct the nonlinear hall sensor in the software by applying a nonlinear curve. but yeah, as said in the review I absolutely agree that a linearized output should be default!
The squeaking is a pain in the ass. After a couple of Messages with the Support and in Discord etc. i gave up with the brake and bought a break from a different brand. So disappointed with those pedals
@@georgma87 yep I like simlab in general, good support. But these pedals and handbrake are overhyped. Imho simgrade, simagic p1000 or even the modded simjack/simruito pedals are better value
For a iRacing dirt oval racer I’m on a Moza srp pedals would the forte pedals be a good choice as I can get them for $280 at micro center or go spend more and get the simlab pedals?
100% Simlab, Forte pedals are not good
Can you please review the p2000 and compare them to the p1000?
dont have those, sry :-/
What is the red unit on the back of the brake? Is that a custom vibration unit?
yes, mounted a simagic haptic reactor to it
@@DanSuzuki Are the haptic reactors working again in iRacing? The last update they disabled them through SimHub. Are you experiencing the same thing?
@@richardople It should work fine via simhub
Are these compatible with the ps5 and fanatec dd 15nm? I think it’s the plus
No
would you consider these a significant upgrade from the Fantatec Clubsport V3 pedals?
We do yes. 👍🏻😆
@@sim-lab_official 😂😂
@@sim-lab_official have been eyeing them for awhile!
yes, a very significant upgrade.
@@DanSuzuki Thanks! Definitely Something my wallet didnt need to hea
When do you release the video about the bridge you're selling?
bridge?
did you 3d print an attachment to use the p1000 haptics?
yea!
@@DanSuzuki amazing you you have them on the simagic base plate or is it connected elsewhere?
there is a haptics box for the p2000 that you can use with any pedalset basically :)
Do you have the file for the screw caps for the pedal faces? I ended up buying SHOES in order to use mine lol
entry level?
is it worth the extra price to buy invicta pedals - yes/no?😊
no, i personally would probably pick the simlab over the invicta these days ...
if you have a micro center nearby you can get the invicta pedals for around $550 so might be worth it then
As an invicta owner of 2 years... dont buy them unless you have a really specific need IRL to have a heavy brake. The throttle is shit and every little add-on is sold as a microtransaction (a $15 spring + $40 shipping, for example). Not to mention my first brake cylinder failed/leaked after a year of use where I rarely, if ever, engaged the hydraulic phase. So absolutely not worth it regardless of what price they are down to.
Kommt das auch in Deutsch ?
ne, ist leider zu viel aufwand und lohnt sich nicht so richtig
@@DanSuzuki okay,danke für die schnelle Antwort.
This or the VRS DFP pedals?
These. 😆
Idk how they made aluminum look so much like plastic…
We hired a specialist. Didn’t disappoint.
@@sim-lab_official A truly impressive job!
cant afford it
Really did not like these pedals, way too many design flaws IMO. Returned them and got a VRS set… never been happier.
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