The CONTROVERSIAL Moment That ENDED Browning Nagle's Career
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- Опубліковано 4 тра 2021
- While Jets QB Browning Nagle did not exactly have an illustrious NFL career, the coaching around him did not help. And in a 1992 game against the Denver Broncos, Bruce Coslet implemented a strategy that wound up destroying Nagle's confidence, ruining his chances of ever becoming a good quarterback, and significantly altering his stat line going forward. This is the story behind Coslet's controversial decision that wound up all but ending Nagle's career
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The NY Jets go through head coaches like the Chicago Bears go through QB's.
No, like I go thru TP.
Dan Snyder has entered the chat.
It's still a dark time to be a Jets fan.
When is it not a dark time to be a Jets Fan???
Still is. And I remember Heidi.
91 & 92 draft classes produced QB legends: Nagle, Klinger, Maddox, Marinovich, Brown, McGwire, Blundin, Saca...
I always think David Klinger and Browning Nagle in the same breath. Dont really know how good they were because of their organizations.
Don't forget that QB the Falcons drafted in the 2nd round. He ended up getting trading to Green Bay, wonder what happened to him, lol.
@@tonecot8932 John Madden may have mentioned him.
All Hall of Famers in my book /sarc
@@tonecot8932 Some guy named Brett Faver, right?
0:18 When is it not a dark time to be a Jets fan?
1968-69. Joe Namath wins Super Bowl 3. The BRIGHTEST time that has or EVER WILL BE BRIGHT for the New York Jets.
I've been a loyal Jets fan for many years., and the last time that I've been proud to be a Jets fan is the Rex Ryan era the back to back A. F. C. Championship appearances. I wish that the outcome of both would've been different, but the defense was nasty, and the offense was mostly of the let's not make mistakes mostly of the mental variety.
Like in Dante’s Inferno there are several levels of dark times, being Kottie’s last year as the lowest level of hell for Jets fans
Haha, I was thinking the same thing! Basically since Joe Namath retired, the team has not put together more than one or two good seasons in a row at a time and they’ve been on an average of maybe once per decade. I sympathize with Jets fans.
The funny thing is Coslet isn't even their worst coach ever. They had Rich Kotite.
I think its a standard interview question now: "would you consider platooning QB's in a game when one is a rookie and your team is 2-7?" If you answer yes you may as well get up and leave the interview.
Rich Kotite is now off the hook as the worst coach in NFL history, thanks to Hugh Jackson's 3-36-1 record with the Browns. That record is .08 losing percentage, now officially the worst in league history for a coach with one team. It probably will never be broken, reason being any coach with that putrid of a record won't be around long enough to break it. Of course, Cleveland owner Jimmy Haslam is in a class by himself when it comes to incompetence. After Jackson went 1-31 in his first two seasons, shit for brains Haslam brought him back for another year, with predictable results.
I’m an Eagles fan. I feel the Jets’ pain afa Kotite goes 😂.
He “won” a playoff game (the Eagles played the Saints in the 1992 playoffs, for the privilege of getting thumped the following week by Dallas - SOMEBODY had to win 😂), so I’m surprised that doesn’t automatically make him a “better” HC than Buddy 😂, according to all those “experts”...
Gase
@@frankmacy1879 What about Bill Peterson?
I remember Nagles first start vs Atlanta in 1992. I thought he was very promising and was excited about his potential. The bad highlights you showed had some terrible breakdowns in pass protection, it’s another young quarterback who lost confidence and the coaching staff didn’t really support. What if this happened to Terry Bradshaw or Alex Smith or Dan Pastorini, there are guys who took 4 and 5 years to get good, not to say Nagle would’ve been great but his circumstances sucked
I have so much respect for David Carr just because he willingly continued getting on a football field after his first four years at Houston. Dude was a human piñata but he kept dusting himself off. Can you imagine how hard it is to go through your reads at the right pace and make good decisions in the pocket if you're learning to have a healthy suspicion of you offensive line to instead of trust?
@@holstorrsceadus1990 great comment. I'm with you a 100% on Carr. Just the fact that he showed up week after week says a ton about the man.
@@christopherengel7436 a lot of people don't understand that a quarterback sometimes cannot succeed no matter who he is when his offensive line has him running for his life and he then becomes damaged goods. Most people have absolutely no idea how hard it is to look for and find open receivers knowing that at any second you can be hit so hard that it's almost equal to being ran over by a small car.
@@mikelomez9313 awesome comments. You're absolutely right too. That was one of the things that made Joe Burrow & the Bengals improbable run last year. Burrow was finding receiver as he ran for the hills!
@@rubberneckinc.8937 Yeah burrow is basically only the second guy I've seen that could do that. The other one was Brett favre
Dude it’s been a hard time to be a jets fan for the last 50 years lol
Here's the thing though: Despite how bad the Jets have been, there have been some REALLY good teams sprinkled in there. For as many horrid years the Jets have had, they have actually been more mediocre then anything for most of the past 50 years.
Regardless, here are some of the most notable teams in the past 50 years:
1982: The year Miami flooded the field to stop arguably the best team in football. This game is the reason why the NFL, not the teams, are in charge of the field during the playoffs.
1998: The year the Jets beat Denver in Denver for three and a half quarters before the wheels fell off the bus.
2008: Arguably the best team in football before Favre got hurt. [For the record, I wanted to bring him back. Imagine that 2010 team with Favre instead of Sanchez at QB...]
2010: A legit stacked team without a QB. I continue to believe the Jets would have beaten Green Bay if they got past the Steelers (who were legit the worst possible matchup for the Jets to face).
Also, something to think about: There's an alternate universe out there somewhere where Peyton Manning doesn't go back to school to avoid being drafted by the Jets, Bill Belichick doesn't ditch us for New England, Mo Lewis doesn't create Tom Brady by almost killing Drew Bledsoe, and the Jets dominated the AFC East for nearly 20 years.
*goes into a corner and sobs uncontrollably*
Ba Ba Booey likes the Jets.
@@gamerk316 Wishful thinking Dan. An organization that has won their Division only twice since the merger. Until the end of the 1960s, they weren't really a good AFL team either. They have the biggest win in AFL history, SB3, but I think in AFL overall league success, they rank around 6th, behind the Chiefs, Raiders, Chargers, Bills, and Oilers. You say good teams sprinkled in. I call them winning spurts. No winning culture at all.
@Jim Stepp Jim, "clutch." Never associated with the Jets. As recent as 2015, Coach Bowles first season. 10-5, they go to Buffalo, with the playoffs on the line, and lay an egg against recently fired Rex Ryan.
@Jim Stepp Fa Fa Fo Fo
Bruce Coslet was a terrible Head Coach. But he actually did worse in Cincinnati than he did with the Jets.
Coslet was just God awful! And this is coming from a Bears fan who lived through Dave Wandstead.
@@UNUSUALUSERNAME220 *Wannstedt
@@UNUSUALUSERNAME220 The Giants dodged a bullet by not hiring Wannstedt, but they ended up with a decrepit Dan Reeves.
Kind of reminds me with Mark Sanchez and Tim Tebow neither ever getting comfortable with any game always breaking the momentum and progress if there was any
Add Sam Darnold
Thank you for this. I've been waiting decades for someone to explain the Browning Nagle year...
Agreed. I wondered why the Jets gave up on him so quickly. I don’t agree with the decision to this day
Nothing following the words “Bruce Coslet decided” has ever ended well.
nothing to do with him. The Jets are a horrible organization and they forced him to groom Nagle. Ask yourself why they did not listen to Ron Wolf and draft Favre. He left the Jets and got his wish with the Packers. Ask yourself why a HOF GM in Ron Wolf left the Jets? BECASUE THE JETS ARE IDIOTS. Bill Walsh interviewed with the Jets in 1979 and the Jets turned him down, why? THE JETS ARE IDIOTS!!!!
They used to call him "Nuke", because he could throw the ball a mile.
It definitely looks like he had a rifle of an arm.
Wish they would go back to that logo on the helmet.
Was hoping the same thing. 78-97 with that helmet. Then the worst when they go throw back games they put on the Titans crap uniforms. Gimmie a break, it's hard enough being a dam fan of this team !!!!
@@paulwhite7924 my hope with the next uniform change is they drop those streaks that go across the front of the shoulders, keep the metallic green helmet but use the 78-97 logo. Maybe change the font too. The number 1 looks like a rectangle.
That season was so bad that Nagle's failure may not even crack top 3. Al Toon's career ended on a hit that took place in the Denver game and Dennis Byrd broke his neck on the field against Kansas City later in the year. The team was also ravaged with additional key injuries throughout the year. Thanks for the memories...
The wild and dark times of being an jets these days
A Jets fan
The New York Jets have ALWAYS SUCKED (With the exception of the 1968-69 season) They CURRENTLY SUCK and they ALWAYS WILL SUCK.
The only Jets quarterback in my life time that I've been able to stomach was Chad Pennington haha
I met Chad Pennington at an NFL event and he signed the Jets hat I had when I was a kid with the swoosh type logo. I told him "You were one of the best quarterbacks they had, heck you were about the ONLY good quarterback they've ever had." He laughed at that and said "Aww thank you!" and shook my hand. He signed a shirt for son and let us take a picture with him. A really nice guy.
Sanchez got to two afc championship games under Rex
Ken O'Brien
Pennington, was very good. Too bad the guy was made of balsa wood. Chad, was actually their best schooled quarterback since young Joe Namath. He did not have a powerful arm, but he could read the field, throw on time, and with accuracy. After a while, it got frustrating. He was like a Fiat Spider or a British Triumph. Always in the shop.
Ken O'Brien was good, but he held the ball too long at times. Joe Walton was a terrible coach in 83 and 84, sunk them, but the team was good enough to compete for the championship.
I mean, Ken O and Chad Pennington were actually good QBs, but since Namath, they were it. I guess Vinny's best years were his Jets days. That's about it. The Jest legacy of QBs is as bad as the Bears. Worse than Cardinals. Maybe as bad as the Yuccaneers. Sad.
I was at that Broncos game as a 14 year old. I knew about Ken O'Brien, but only remembered the name Browning Nagle from a picture in Sports illustrated a few years earlier where it showed him getting crushed on a tackle from just about the entire West Virginia defense. Always wondered why Nagle was starting over O'Brien in that game. Decades later I now know.
Ken OBrien was the best QB the Jets ever had. My first memory as a football fan was the 86 Jets. OBrien was very accurate, had one of the lowest INT percentages in NFL history, was one of the rare QBs in the mid 80s to complete more than 60 percent of his passes. Could throw a beautiful deep ball. His drawbacks, he was immobile and took too many sacks. When he got protection, he was one of the best. Not a hall of famer but I’ll take him any day of the week
I always thought Ken O’Brien always had to eat a lot of shit unfairly because he was picked ahead of Marino, but he was a pretty solid NFL QB.
Imagine if Atlanta didnt take Favre. Could be seeing the same thing but a HOF that probably would have not happened. Favre would have been carved into that asphalt AstroTurf.
I remember when the Jets hired Dick Steinberg as GM in the late 80s. It was finally, a real NFL GM, with a track record. Dick hired Bruce Coslet, the OC from the Bengals, being highly touted by Coach Sam Wyche, Boomer, and Bengal Ownership. Once again, the Jets were hit with that disease. "Bust-a-rama." Like others, he looked refreshing at first, but then fans soon realized he was a "lemon." A true lemon, like Joe Walton, as Coslet was never hired again as an NFL head coach.
Coslet was a head coach for Cincinnati
"It was a dark time to be a Jest fan." Yeah, they've had a pretty rough last 5 or 6 decades.
Was there ever a good time to be Jests fan
When hasn't there not been a "dark time" to like the Jets? 1968?
this channel BLOWS
These are pretty good been watching lately
Schnellenberger said Nagle was the best QB he ever coached. Oh well
Hmm. Better than Jim Kelly?
The Jets missed out on Favre because the Falcons took him even though they didn't want him.
Nice to see Al Toon in there. The original Megatron.
Too bad injuries derailed his career.
@Funky Tunk I bet you need a fake ID to drink.
@Funky Tunk Either you’re too young to drink, or your brain is even if your body isn’t.
@Funky Tunk So are the Lions
Browning Nagle had one of the best college football games of all time. Take a look at that bowl game against Alabama. He sent passing records against the #1 defense in the country. Check it out
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I remember that game. I believe that same Bama defense went on to win a national championship the next season. I also recall Browning Nagle singing the national anthem in full pads before a Falcons game and he nailed it. Great voice.
Alabama was 7-4. Louisville was 9-1-1 going into the game. Alabama was 74th in total defense.
@@tonycrabtree3416 The Fiesta Bowl had such a hard time attracting teams at the end of the 1990 season. So many institutions turned it down before Alabama, which had to overcome a 0-3 start, agreed to make the trip to the Valley of the Sun.
They killed Bama. But we weren’t that great that yr.
I’m sure O’Brien was seriously injured, but I can’t help but see LeBron or Neymar when I see him at 5:51.
Also, I think decisions like this and Jim Hanifan’s in the 1982 playoffs (about which the unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video) could be part of a new series called “Head Scratchers”. Not quite “Dumb Decisions”, but pretty close.
Fun fact: Former Jets executive Ron Wolf said the team had their eyes on taking a QB in the 2nd round of the 1991 draft. The guy they absolutely wanted went to the Falcons with the 33rd pick, so at the 34th pick the Jets settled with taking Nagle instead.
Yeah the guy they badly wanted and missed out by one pick was Brett Farve...
Wolf had him as his #1 on his entire draft board
Actually, it was Jerry Glanville who wanted to draft Browning Nagle over Brett Favre for the Falcons.
In April 1993, Ron Wolf (Packers) acquired Ken O'Brien in a trade. Green Bay's camp also included Brett Favre, Mark Brunell, and Ty Detmer.
and in an irony Nagle eventually went to the Falcons and from what I've read the Jets were hoping to trade up with the Cardinals to take Favre but the Cards backed out of a deal as Favre could have been a Jet 17 years earlier
Favre was never on the Jets radar. If Favre went to USC then he would be a Jet. Typical Jet move would be to package picks and move up in the draft like they did for Darnold.
Cool to see the Jets in their throwback uniforms! Or is that really the same as their current unis?
Was that future Jets coach Joe Walton on the sidelines???
Those uniforms and the 1979-1997 logo where the best
In over 45 years of loving the Jets, this was by far the most frustrating years
29 years ago.
(Subbing in for Scott).
The Jets ruining a young quarterback? Shut up!!!
This dude does a Browning Nagle video. He's great! I want to love something as much as Jag9 loves football.
When was it not a dark time to be a Jets fan? 1969.
Hehe, Browning Nagle QB of the Fiesta Bowl-winning Louisville Cardinals. One of his backups? Erik Watts
Who time was more unkind to is a whole separate vid to itself that needs to be made. Maybe you and Brian Zane could do a crossover on this
I don't see Zane jobbing to this channel, but maybe he'll do it for the content
It was a dark time for the jets fans as soon as they got rid of the Kenny O’Brien uniforms and put those dark green and black face masks on.....and it’s still a dark time now.
This a good video but you gotta do something bout that audio lol
"It was a dark time to be a Jets fan". Other than 1969, it's basically ALWAYS been a dark time to be a Jets fan!!!
What WERE the JETS thinking?! Why would you hire a guy that hasn't won ANYTHING as your Head Coach? A guy from a LOSING Coaching Staff?
That 1992 game vs the patriots was the best in Nagle's career. The One at east Rutherford, the foxboro game was a disaster
Nagle was playing like Zack Wilson with that TD/INT rate
@Antimike11 look up jets at Patriots 1992. It was an ugly game. The pats who hadn't won at home all year dominated, and the jets offense, led by nagle, didn't reach the endzone
He LOOKED like a Quarterback. I liked his name
Yes, he had a great QB name. Had it worked out Chris Berman would have been talking about his rifle arm in the highlights all the time.
Burman could have definatly turned his name into a Burmanism such as Eddie eat drink and be Murray, Wally absorbeen Joyner and of course the ultimate Burmanism Andre Bad Moon Risen...The Browning Rifle
Awesome do Dave cadigan next plz
Browning Nagle became the starter by default because Ken O'Brien was holding out/injured. The third string QB was future Pro Bowler Jeff Blake. Jeff Blake and Bruce Coslet were on the same teams from 1992-1999. This was Al Toon's last game. Oddly enough, Browning Nagle was 2-1 as a starter vs The Bills.
How do you have 3 games against the Bills? He only lasted one season with the Jets. The only win they had against the Bills was the post Dennis Byrd broken neck game.
@@holdenmcgroin9774 In 1994, Browning was with the Colts. He started the game and beat the Bills.
@@holdenmcgroin9774 Byrd was really good before he got hurt. Unfortunate but at least he was able to eventually walk again before he passed. RIP
Picking Browning Nagle over Jeff Blake? Yep, sounds like the Jets
@@deathtowrestling2518 Browning Nagle was a 2nd round pick in 1991. Jeff Blake was a 6th round pick in 1992. Jeff Blake didn't become a starter until 1994 when he took over for another bust in David Klingler. David Klingler makes Browning seem less of a bust when you compare records as a starter. David Klingler was 4-20, Browning Nagle was 4-10.
Do you have a patreon or a tiktok?
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This was also the game that ended Al Toon’s career
29 Years later and Jets are still having these damn struggles.
It was a dark time to be a Jets fan.
Isnt most of the time a dark time to be a Jets fan?
The Eagles did this BS to Jalen Hurts his rookie year on national TV
I was at that game vs the Falcons. That was an absolutely horrible call, and I'm a Falcons fan. I guess Jerry Glanville had the refs paid off.
Damn..... And I thought that Dan McGwire was a bonafide washup for the SEATTLE SEAHAWKS!
I remember this game very well...actually, I remember this entire season well....just not a good time at all in Jets' history in any way. Browning Nagle never recovered after that Broncos game--Just a very bad year/QB experience
sad, in a way, he never had a good chance...jets o-line was horrid....its too bad, wish the kid coulda had a better team around him.
And then I said, “Who the hell is Browning Nagle?
Who names their kid Browning?
All this and a 2 year career in the Arena Football League.
The strategy was not really that bad of an idea, but Bruce Coslet asking for some credit on it lmao, dude was way too high of himself.
Ken O’Brien was not selected to the 1991 pro bowl . He played in the game as an alternative selection because several other QBs had turned down the opportunity to play in the game that season. Second fact; Bruce Coslet was not fond of O’Brien , which is explained in a book called ‘Gang Green.’ This explains why Nagle was going to be given a shot to be the 1992 starter regardless of the contract situation with O’Brien
Coslett did not pull Boomer... Sam Wyche did
I remember Parcells called a halfback pass against the lions in 97 and it was intercepted out of bounds. Dumb play call and bad officiating in one play.
obrien was a damn good qb he was still only in early 30s in 1992 no reason nagle should of taken his job also your question about obrien making pro bowl the 3 qbs picked for the game all got injured thats how he made team regardless he was a very good qb
I was an O'Brien fan, thought he was a very good QB and just needed a better coach and O line. Defense was good in his early years but the organisation let him down later on. Always suffered from the Jets fans because he was from a small school and Marino was on the board when he was drafted.
OB was shell shocked from being sacked so many times. They needed a strong O-line and didn't have it.
@@michaelh2034 exactly. I believe their crappy o line and moving to meadowlands. With that concrete turf took years off freeman mcneils career. I think he could of been hall of fame back
He’s the forgotten QB from the class of ‘83
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Nagle was great at the combine.
Looks like he was always under fire.
Have way too many rookie cards of this guy. They might be worth a penny each.
Wasn't Dan McGwire drafted that same year as neagle?
Yes he was. Friggin Ken Behring!
Nagle
That offensive line was horrible...and Bruce Coslet was worse!
No chance at all for Nagle.
We Are 2-7 What The Bleep Different Does It Make
And to think The Bengals picked Bruce up to be there Head Coach. We all know what happened there!
As a 35 + year Jets fan I can tell you Bruce Coslet was a awful Coach. He did take over a terrible Jets (when aren’t they terrible?) team that went 4-12 in 89 but 6-10 in 1990, by luck they made the playoffs at 8-8 in a weak AFC in 91. In 1992 they back slide horribly to finish 4-12 and in 93 lose their final 3 games to go from 8-5 to 8-8 and out of the playoffs again. See ya Bruce.
So confidence made him a sub-50% thrower with a 50 rating, I have seen more bad QBs look good in pre-season than I can count. It's hard to look at a rookie with a 60 rating, this would be impossible to look at.
Am I the only one who can't make out what Bruce Coslet did in the 4th quarter VS the 49ers??
Browning Nagle seemed like a decent guy, but he looks like the real deal in the 1992 opener again the Falcons (then again, the Falcons pass defense in the 1990's was an opposing quarterback's favorite football airport).
minus deion sanders
@@Mateogreat Yeah, but due to the Falcons blitzing style (which didn't really work for them, but did for the opposing QB's; in both the 1990 & 1991 seasons, they allowed a QB to pass for 6 TD's) they ranked no higher than 19th in pass defense during Deion's time there. Tim McKyer was good for them in 1991 (as Chris Berman called them, Deion & McKyer were "The Stereo Corners" since they made a lot of noise), but it didn't matter.
I always thought his brother Winchester was better but that's just me.
....and with Fabrique National and Miroku as mom and pop they're blessed with some fine DNA too.
Didn’t Nagle sing the national anthem before a game?
What were his parents thinking? Why would you name a human, or anything, Browning?
It was Bruce coslet. He never thinks... Look at his tenure with the Bengals. 😂😂😂
I just finished the video two minutes ago, and I've already forgotten the guy's name. That's how forgettable he was.
Coslett or Nagle?
You never, ever ever ever ever ever rotate quarterbacks in the middle of a game
Oddly enough, that same season, the Broncos rotated quarterbacks on every single play in a 1992 game against the Cowboys: ua-cam.com/video/Oqd_iX_01D4/v-deo.html
Tom Landry did that in 1971 in a game vs the Bears alternating Craig Morton and Roger Staubach. .
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 Tommy Maddox and Shawn Moore, the sin committed by a disciple of Tom Landry; I remember that game.
The Browning Nagel error?
I'm only asking because he seems to mention it in EVERY video... What passer rating WOULD U have if U spiked the ball into the ground on every play?!? He says it ALL THE TIME, but never tells us what passer rating a QB who did that would have!!!
39.6 (the rating you get for an incomplete pass. so since spiking the ball on every play is an incomplete pass, your rating never goes up or down as a result).
@@mfm4205 Thank U for the explanation, but I was being slightly sarcastic. He DOES seem to mention it nearly EVERY video!!! I'm glad to be a loyal subscriber!!!
I actually think Coslet was way worse than Kotite because the early 90's Jets had decent players but were an awful organization from top to bottom. Will never forget the game in Houston when a win gets them a playoff berth...they lost 24-0 it was a total no-show and wasn't that close.
Taken 1 selection before Brett Favre
2:10 The Patriots had a duck mascot?
Browning 1992 Preseason 5-0 ... nfl career regular season 4-10
I thought this then and I still think it now; who the fuck names their kid “Browning”
Browning Nagle should be in the hall of fame.
I watched that ATL game, opening the season. Nagle looked great, and I remember thinking we had found a QB. Always felt Coslet was a complete dork.
nothing to do with Coslet, he was forced to groom Nagle. The Jets are an inept and stupid organization. The Rams and Buccaneers have won 4 super bowls in 22 years and Jets cannot even make the playoffs.
DARK TIMES & NEW YORK JETS are synonymous with each other.
Kinda like if 2 people they bumped into each other and said:
You got your Dark Times in my NY Jets,and the other said
You got your NY Jets in my Dark Times......made for each other.
The jets have been the jets for a long time.
If Nagle get drafted by ATL and subsequently traded to GB... maybe his story turns out a touch differently.
Bruce Coslet was a horrible head coach. He was a wise guy that did not appear to be a good leader. They should have paid O’Brien the money he was due and named him the starter from the getgo. It wouldn’t have mattered have mattered. If you have a head coach like Coslet or Kotite,Mancini or Holts, you aren’t going to win. The reason I feel good about Saleh is I have seen what he’s done with other teams. He’s experienced and appears to be a good leader.
*Wasn't NAGEL'S brother a MLB pitcher...??*
Are you thinking Denny Neagle? Different spelling of the surname.
@@philipnj7873 I think so
Coslet was so awful we used to yell at his "Cord Boy" from the 5th row to get him to talk sense to that idiot coach. Cord Boy can be seen throughout.
Don ...Sec 110 Row 5
They ruined two QB's at the same time lol, they could have handled the Ken O'Brien situation better, granted he wasn't Marino, Elway, Moon, Kelly, Cunningham or even Boomer at the time, but he was definately better than average at the time, I think he was atleast a top 10 QB in the league, they could have handled his contract situation better paying him as such. Which would've allowed him to play longer while allowing Nagle to develop under him. Instead they made O'brien sit out and rushed Nagle when it was obvious he wasn't ready, I remember the announcers raving about his arm and his potential, maybe he wouldn't have been a superstar but perhaps he would have been a decent starting QB. Then they give up on him altogether, and O'Brien gets traded. Which leads to Neil O Donnel, then they draft a QB I forget his name, I believe from Notre Dame, We end up With Boomer who was descent for a while, Then Testeverde, who was my favorite all time but he gets hurt, Pennington which was decent but limited to his poor arm, Sanchez would have been better if Rex would have supported him with better talent, Geno Smith no comment, Hackenberg no comment, Fitzpatrick o.k for a while, And now Zach Wilson, we shall see.
I mean the guy was good at Louisville. He did look better in college
Browning Nagle FROM?
LOUISVILE!!
The weird thing about Nagle was that before the 1990 season a LOT of football publications were touting him as the top pick in the NFL draft for 1991.
He didnt have a drop off either in 1990. He threw a lot less but his output was about the same 16td in 89 on about 330 throws at a 56% comp as compared to 16tds in about 250 throws at a 55% comp. His team was pretty bad but he was a good college QB with a very strong arm. There werent a lot of good QB's in 91 (save for Favre who, lets face facts wasnt the Favre he would become on GB).
Apparently Nagle was.....lets just say "not the brightest bulb" and it scared away a lot of teams, enough so that he dropped out of the top of the 1st round all the way down to the 2nd.
Its weird though as I saw Nagle play in college and he was a pretty outstanding QB in the Troy Aikman UCLA mold. Strong, fearless, could make good reads and had a terrific arm.
But the NCAA is not the NFL and instead of going down as one of the worst 1st round picks of all time Nagle is all but forgotten, save for Jets fans who saw a QB who was nowhere near ready to take snaps on Sunday but was thrown out there anyhow with a 'savior' tag.
I remember this. Coslett actually had a point about 2 minute drills & I think more teams should do the same. The kid needed to observe 2 minute drills being run during games if those situations came up.
Football is football. Nagle executed the two minute drill at Louisville, so it's a lame excuse. How many two minute drills did he run in college and in high school? A lot. It's Coslett being a bad coach. No one does the Coslett way.
@@someperson8151 When John Elway was a rookie he was played & then DeBerg was put in at times to win the game. I watched his first start in Pittsburg in 1983. This year Tua was pulled for Fitzpatrick in a crucial situation & Fitz win the game. Media didn’t complain. Do you really think 2 minute frills in high school are the same as the NFL? It’s a different game. Nagle had physical skills but didn’t have the mental skills at NFL speed to be a straryer as 99% don’t. The idea was to prepare Nagle to be the future of the franchise but to win when possible. Even though Coslett didn’t have head coaching success I trust an NFL coach’ing staff’s decision that a veteran QB is better at the 2 minute offense than the young guy. Media makes mountains out of molehills.
Bruce Coslett was a good coordinator, but not a successful HC. This is just one example as to why.