5 Common Mistakes of New Two Handed Bowlers & How To Fix Them
Вставка
- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- Two handed bowling technique is harder to master than you may think. We discuss 5 mistakes that new 2 handed bowlers make, and how to correct them. Learn fast and increase your revs and average now!
Need more help with your game? Access 1 on 1 virtual lessons with me: / artofbowling
1 on 1 virtual lessons with me: / artofbowling
Join us on Facebook: / nycbowlingcoach
Twitter: / bowlingartof
I'm USBC Silver certified coach Arthur O'Connor, and I'm here to promote the sport I love -- bowling. Subscribe to my channel for tips, tricks, and techniques to improve your bowling scores!
Thanks for watching, and see you on the lanes! - Спорт
This video helped me out quite a bit. I’m working on correcting quite a few of these mistakes. Of the mistakes you mentioned, staying too upright and keeping the arm extended at the top of the swing seem to be the ones I struggle with most.
What I would love to see is a series of videos that breaks down the entire 2 handed style from proper setup, approach, swing, and then all the little nuances like keeping the arm tucked in. There’s a good amount of videos on two handed bowling, but I feel like there’s a lot of information missing. Why does Jason Belmonte and other two handers have a lot of reverse pitch in their finger grips? The best way to change our axis rotation. No thumb drilling layouts (usbc rule change).
If Jason Belmonte did an instructional video with you on the 2 handed style like so many pros have done in the past, I would purchase it in a heartbeat. I’ve watched all the amateur and semi pro two handed videos and even read Joe Slowinski’s articles, but a two handed video like the one norm duke made would be amazing.
100% I'm tired of seeing these two handed bowling tip videos be super short and without much as far as examples go.
I want to see a 10+ minute video that breaks down all the DO'S and DO NOTS! With examples for both each time they
have more information to talk about. I've actually found that I learn way more and even faster by watching all the best
2H bowling pro's play their matches etc. There's also some very helpful super slow motion videos you can watch of the
best 2H bowlers in the world. It'll show you in slow motion their approach, their backswing, their release, their footwork,
their angles etc. Watch those and then compare your own style afterwards and make adjustments. Aside from that of
course the rest is all just practice, practice, practice!
I got a problem of my eyes point to see which line to throw..how is the eyes point? See the pin see the board or see the pin 10?
@@raziaali4213 i'd say its generally easier to hit your mark aiming for the board you're trying to hit, but i guess this could be different from bowler to bowler. This is because the board is closer to you then the pin ur trying to hit.
The pronlem with ten minute long videos is that people do not stay the whole video.... the watch time on them are horrible. We try to keep them short as thst is what people watch more. as we go back into production this spring I will try to do a series breaking down the two handed approach one part at a time
To our art of bowling family i love the way we are giving each other help
Thank you for filling up the conversation.
Im a self taught 2 handed bowler and it looks like i taught myself right
I did not
same lol. self taught first year bowler and i’m on varsity. our bowling team is good too they won state 3 years ago so making varsity isn’t easy
I am too, i agree
I say the most common out of all even with someone who started off 2 handed will still be the last one, the negative axis tilt.
I do agree haviving a little negitive axis tilt can be beneficial on some conditions. But too much really slows down the ball speed and slow ball speed with high rev rate is a bad combination
@@ArtOfBowling to the gutter it goes!
@@ArtOfBowling how do one know when he is releasing too late and how do one adjust to release sooner/earlier? Hope you can help. Thanks
@@khairulizwan5951 watch the roll of the ball, if the tilt of the pap is below the equator you will know you are releasing too late. Find you pap mark and watch it during practice.
@@ArtOfBowling thank you so much for your quick reply and advice. Will try it once I hit the lane soon
When I started switching to one hand to to hand because I had wrist problems and it helped me keep bowling I started with 12 pounds for 2 weeks practicing with it and and 13 pounds for 2 weeks and now I'm up the 14 pounds and I will be 14 pounds for the next month
thank god for this video, ive been looking for these exact tips for weeks
Im a pro at two handed
How much did you get paid to say that
As a new two handed bowler, I was releasing my ball too late, I would released probably at about knee height instead of at my ankles, so what I did is release when I THOUGHT would be too early but it was actually the correct technique.
Thank you so much Arthur, every time I watch your videos it’s like a new experiment
Thats great what we are trying to achive. Open up discussion
I’m still learning. I have more respect for 2 handers now. It’s fun but it’s hard. So much power but hard to control. Powerful with all those revs but you have to be smooth with it and roll the ball. I’m working on it.
Practice makes perfect. Think less and have fun. Take time and use natural fluid motion. Speed, speed, speed. I have found that if you use an older ball with more use some revs get taken off and less splits and junk. I might get 600-800 revs. Not sure. If you gave me a new ball right now I would hook it off the lane. Best success is old urethane around 1st arrow, 5 board or 1,2,3,4 right on gutter, small easygoing angle, fluid motion follow through. I know what I am talking about because I have 3 300 league games, 1 league 800, tons of 700s, 299, everything. 215 average. Working on next 800 and next 300 and then 900.
I bowl two handed the same way Darth Maul weilds a double bladed lightsaber. I think of it too. Intimidation factor. Use your anger against the pins. The pins are the enemy. Take care of the pins and your competition will have nightmares. Try not to get cocky though.
Good one! My only critique is the part about negative axis tilt could be better explained, but Pikachu has a nice roll there! I’m 61 and bought a urethane ball so I could practice 2-handed, and IMHO it is way harder to repeat shots...gave me great appreciation of the athleticism of someone like Belmo. I’ve been toying around with 1-handed thumbless (aka Tom Daughtery), and enjoy the revs I can get from that, but again, find it harder to repeat shots.
Thats Al I am sitting in the waiting room to walk out in nationals
Art Of Bowling Good luck!
Paused the video at 0:17 to say this is what I've been needing out of a bowling video!
Just recently transitioned from a life long conventional grip (thumb in ball) right handed bowler
into a 2H bowler. Was able to get my 2H average right on par with my usual style of bowling and
it only took me a couple months to do it. I finally went all in a week ago and had all my balls thumbs
plugged and the layouts set for my 2 handed pap. My biggest issue thus far is balance at the line
as well as my ball speed. Ball speed is even more important right now for me. It seems as though
I tend to throw strikes more often when I'm not as balanced at the line. Weird? Yeah I know!
But one thing that happens alot is my balls snapping to the Brooklynn side of the pocket. That
of course is because my balls speed isn't where it needs to be. I'm averaging about 13.5 to 14 MPH
as a two handed bowler. And that's down 4 MPH from my standard (thumb in ball) style I've had
my entire career as a bowler. Ball speed first, balance at the line second. Also.. going down a ball
doesn't seem to help that much with keeping my ball on the right side of the pocket. Even my
Pitch Black Urethane ball now hooks even more than my Hammer Gauntlet Asymmetrical ball
ever did prior to switching my bowling style. My rev rate has easily DOUBLED since I transitioned
to a 2H bowler.
Instead of starting my backswing later, I use a four step approach.
Self taught so take with a grain of salt:
An adjustment I made that helped me bowl my highest score was keeping the ball closer to my body on the backswing. My backswing I kept a bend in my right elbow at all times while trying to keep it close to my body. I had trouble with accuracy and that helped a lot!
that is a correct thought....center of the ball is 6 boards away from our ankle
Thanks! As a new two-handed bowler these tips are very useful.
I jus picked up bowling a month ago and I'm also learning the two hand throw and it seems like I need alot of work,'preciate the vid
Killing it arthur !!!! ~jeremy
Thanks jeremy you and jaron all signed up for 2x4
Will try to start using this approach, I’m new to bowling and watching people 2 hand, but I keep hurting my left shoulder
Very very helpful
Just started throwing the two hander a few weeks ago, so far it’s the most comfortable way for me to throw so that’s why I’m trying to develop it. Only problem is, the only way I get a strike is a Brooklyn. Should I work on more ball speed or just less rev’s?
Hi jacob,
Great question! The not being able too keep the ball on the correct side of the pocket is more than likely due to not enough ball speed try moving the feet faster. If that doesnt work send a video taken from the side to our fb page and I will be happy to comment. Thanks for watching...
Hi Arthur, thanks for pointing out these mistakes. I wasn't aware they would be so common as you mentioned. Now, how would you go about fixing these common mistakes?
Thanks!
I wish you elaborated on negative axis a little more, I feel like that my be my problem but I’m not sure.
My problem is I can’t seem to hit the correct pocket and go Brooklyn more often then not.
I have a similar issue, or I bonk the headpin leading to bad results. Watching them throw the ball, I realized that I'm nowhere near to the left side as they are, I have a hunch that I may be too inside, leading to the angle being poor. My theory is that by widening the angle, maybe the ball gets further to the right before beginning its hook.
great vid as always. It would be awesome if you can make a guide for the proper steps to the two handed approach!
Ill start working on that as there is more than one way to get down the lane
I do six steps. It works very well. One, two, three, four slow and then 5 faster, 6 last step explode body into ball and drop quickly on lane with fluid natural motion
I'm a fellow 2 handed bowler myself for the past 4 years. And I still use my one handed release to hit my spares.
I think one key thing when studying your own side view videos is to pay attention to the timing of the last step. Especially when the slide stops in relation to where the ball positioned at that point in the swing.
In the video at 2:34, if you freeze the video at this exact timing. Our fellow 2 handed youth bowler here has what we call the perfect "delayed timing". Which is having the ball positioned around the thigh of his non sliding leg, when his left feet has stopped sliding. This last step timing gives him a large flat spot to impart revs on to the ball, and also gives him great balance. If you picture his center of gravity at frame 2:34, the CG of his whole body and his ball together should be somewhere right in the middle of his body frame.
You can try to compare videos of all good one handed or two handed power bowlers online, most of them have different timings, but the last step timing all looks very similar to our friend at 2:34. Which is called "delayed timing" at the last step. If the ball is still higher up in his swing at this timing, its usually called "late timing" which causes imbalance at the foul line, inconsistency and lack of accuracy at release. If the ball is exactly at his left foot during this timing, we call this "traditional timing". Which is fine for accuracy and balance, but does not give the bowler a good flat spot to impart power and revs on to the bowling ball.
This is why "traditional timing" is often seen during the olden days and for one handed female bowlers. Where they do not need that much power but lots of accuracy as they play close to the right gutter most of the time.
Sorry for the long winded rant, but in summary:
1) look to have "delayed timing" at your last step when you have stopped sliding
2) Try to avoid "late timing" as it spells trouble for any bowler
3) "Traditional timing" is fine but "Delayed timing" is what power bowlers like 2 handers aim for.
Edit: Just realised my rant is basically what Coach Arthur just covered in his earlier video here :D
ua-cam.com/video/U03Rtt_ac_g/v-deo.html
I don't understand how you can throw 2 different styles like that if you establish 2 handed all shots need to be thrown 2 handed. I'm a right handed bowler I have to throw all shots with my right hand I can't pick up the 10 pin with my left hand I don't think that's right
@@paulshobbyshop5416 Well that's the beauty of bowling isn't it? You can just do what you feel is best for ya. There really isn't a right or wrong way to do any sports, even the top coaches keep researching new techniques and top athletes and they change the way they teach as the sport evolves!
@@Fate025 Not disagreeing with you here about delayed timing but if you watch the video in slow motion you can clearly see the ball is just behind his left ankle when his sliding foot stops moving at 2:34
@@Fate025 watch todays video i make that clear...lol
@@Fate025 so true a couple of the kids i cosched that wanted to convert to two hands i fought tooth and nail. Others I encouraged to do it. I did not know enough about it to teach it. As I researched how to coach it and how it is done. That I became confident enough to coach it.
I’m a two hander and after a month of not bowling because the last time I played was the last day of league, I had to recollect what one handers do with their wrist to fix what I did, I went on to bowl a 300 game for the first time today.
I agree with this is some ways, but everyone has their own style and if they can do it and feel comfortable then they are good to go. But this has some good tips as well
feel like i can really relate to your comment, there is no certain ''right way'' to bowl. what ever makes you take all ten down try go with it.
One Problem I used to Have was to Force Rotation and all I had to do was Keep my hand Under the Ball rather then Spinning my whole Wrist
Also the Release Timing on the End with Opposite hand Just Removing it Earlier as You said Helps with the Ball speed and Release Timing
Hey Arthur! I switched to 2 handed using mg pinky and ring finger due to an injured middle finger... When i started I was 8 160 and now a season in I'm back to 200... My biggest issue at first was ball speed but that went from 14 to 17.5 as the season progressed... The biggest thing I did was foxus more on staying behind the ball... I find most people, whrn switching, end up focusing too much and rev and hook and end up using the power generated to simply rip the cover off of the ball and xome either around or over the top... I focus on staying behind the ball and allowing nature to create mu revs (still super high even for 2 handers). So my question is, would telling people to stay behind the ball to generate speed be a good rule of thumb to help others or was it simply a personal thing that onlt helped me! And whatever the andwer is I would love to hesr your take!!
I know this comment was awhile ago, but yeah I think you're on to something there! I found that the more i kept my hand behind the ball, the faster and smoother my ball traveled.
Wow I've been making all of these mistakes!!!!
I've seen you jake not all of them but maybe one or two
Also if you have trouble getting low during your approach and release try dropping your shoulder and having your last step as a 90 degree knee bend angle
I would say keeping on the inside of the ball, and also moving your hand further to the side of your ring finger is the key to removing negative axis tilt, not a late release. If you release it too soon you will not be consistent, how ever if you keep your hand on the inside of the ball, and rotate around the back of the ball instead of the side, you can release it 4 feet off the ground and still have good axis tilt. The key to accuracy and consistency is releasing it Infront of you. Perfect example is watching any pro two hander, and how long they keep the hand and arm inside the ball before releasing it.
When I release my ball my hand goes over the ball making too much axis tilt and not ever catching up and hooking how do I fix that?
I’m a 68 year old who has just started bowling again after a gap of over 35 years due to injury and two surgeries on my back. I only bowled for two years in my early 30’s, so I’m still a novice at this and even though I’m improving, I’m wondering if changing from a single hand throw to the two handed bowling style, would help me improve even more. My current best game was a 252 and best series in league, was 230, 232, & 229, for a 691 total. Both of those happened within the last couple weeks, right after I got my new ball, a Harsh Reality 14lb, with finger tip grip. My league averages in the three nights I am bowling now are 161, 165, & 187 (I bowled too good the first night of the 3rd league). I’ve been watching tons of videos lately, trying to learn how to get more hook and rotations, but seem to be going backwards.
staying balanced. I practice holding my followthrough until the ball hits the pins. If I can't hold it then I am not balanced. I always start there, because any adjustment I make is useless if I'm falling out of my shot. Learned this trick from a Belmonte video.
Besides the obvious missing thumb hole, how different are the ball layouts between on and two handed bowlers? Are the to finger holes in relatively similar position related to the pin and PAP as they are on a ball for a one handed bowler? Reason I ask is, I am a one hander that has a horribly low rev rate, but when practicing two hands I can DRAMATICALLY increase my rev and hook without really losing too much ball speed, but I do wonder if my one handed drilled balls are correctly on axis being that my entire roll is different when using two hands
any suggestions when your dominate arm is about 6 inches shorter and cannot get the full swing in.
Great Video! Can you make a spare shooting video for two handed bowlers. Also explain how to adjust the release to keep the ball straight. I always struggle with the 10 pin as it slightly hooks at the very end even with a plastic ball.
Thanks for the suggestion! We will definitely give this a go. If you have any other suggestions keep em coming.
I 100% agree with this, my plastic ball hooks hard in the back end even if I try to take a lot off.
A good way to solve that, is to spread your pinky and try to get your hand more under the ball. Just some more than you think is enough. Also make a straight follow through with the arm. When you go back-up, it is too far😁
I am a two hander. I have a bizarre style with 6 steps. My two big tips are ball speed must be high with revs, and try the approach where you start like statue and then when you begin walk to lane imagine being a falling statue to naturally fall into approach and generate that speed of course.
Solid video. The main issue I see with new 2 handed bowlers is the inability to generate enough ball speed. Any suggestions?
Most of the time it's simply due to bowlers being unable to utilise their body movements to match their approach, or simply put its not a fluid motion. Starting off with footwork, it is very very different from one hand approach, so considering you don't get much energy from your arms alone, you need to be able to speed up your footwork, creating a skip step. Next would be bending your body forward more, so your already low drawback isn't any closer to a non-existent drawback. Be careful of your arms kicking out, try to keep them closer to you. Last but not least would be the ability to release the ball on time. Most common mistake I've seen one handed bowlers converting to 2 hands is their inability to create the space for their swing due to their body not being able to bend enough, so if they could fix that they're probably going to be a step closer. I'm no coach or a PBA bowler but as a 2 handed myself, I hope this helps. Correct me if anyone might have seen some mistakes I might have included.
Faster approach, skip step, and pull the ball back farther
As has been stated the skip step is the biggest thing for speed! Another big one i did to gain speed was staying up the back of the ball more... I found by staying more up the back and not ripping off of the side more of my momentum and motion was translated into ball speed! At the start of this season I was at 14 now I'm at 17.5!
I haven't heard anyone mention when switching to 2 hands, you don't slide to the line with square shoulders as in the conventional 1 hand swing. But you're on a slight angle as you slide to the line, and you're using a new set of muscles in the glutes above your slide leg. Takes a little time to strengthen those muscles to put some power in your swing.
I’m in the process of converting to 2 hands. However my 1 handed strike ball is 15 lbs and I find myself struggling getting ball speed. I had a play with some lighter 12 lbs house balls and found the technique a lot more smoother. Is worth considering getting a lighter ball or just work on technique with my current ball? I also found that inserting my fingers in the ball deeper helped a lot.
I would get a lighter ball as your changing you are using different muscles, go slow when teach your body to move differently. I have heard from many two handers that tell me that inserting there fingers deeper help.
Had a good 2 hour session on the lanes today, didn’t need to change finger inserts either which was a bonus. Once I had a rhythm I picked it up fairly easily, plenty of strikes however picking up spares seems to be a lot harder as I was struggling with kill my revs. Especially the 10 pin region.
@@scottpaxton9419 one word "plastic"
Finally bought myself a plastic/polyester ball. Had a tournament yesterday where I had to use a urethane house ball as my spare ball. Struggled a lot hitting my spares as I could not get comfortable lining up. What would you recommend with my spare shots? Central approach with the 3, 6, 9 method or use my strike approach? (Normally between 30-35 board)
I started rolling two handed about 1 year ago. Now I’m averaging around 190-195 my rev rate is 522 only got 2 300 games need help with getting more curve?
I've got wicked tendinitus in my supporting ieft shoulder from 2 handed bowling.. Tips?
stretching slowly and natural movements. Try not to force ball. Take your time and think loosy goosy and shake body and arms like gumby. Ice bath and or hot and cold showers.
I’m thinking of starting to bowl 2 handed. Should I start with a lower weight ball, instead of my 15lb ball?
First thing I will say is that if you are going to become a thumbless 2-hander is that you need to involve your pro shop with your grip because it impacts how you release the ball and can cause all sorts of issues. Using a currently drilled 1-hander setup with a thumb in will almost certainly cause a myriad of release problems for thumbless 2-handers. Most 2-handers have reverse pitch in their fingers in order to necessitate a proper release. This is specific to each bowler's comfort level, but having forward pitch is almost certainly going to cause problems with being able to comfortably put the ball down and develop a consistent, clean release.
As of August 2020 you will need to use the holes if they are in the ball. We will be covering the new ball rules and what they mean to everyone in a future episode.
what does reverse pitch mean?
What does negative axis tilt mean?
It refers to the tilt of the ball being below the equator of the ball.
If your body is to upright can this cause wrist pain?
I am also a self taught 2 handed bowler I used about 3 years ago I was a terrible one handed bowler I would always go ti the same bowling center and I was pretty comfortable around the people and Anita knew everyone but then there was these league bowlers I have never seen before and they where 2 handed bowlers they would always go there on Thursday’s so I saw them and copied there technique and I bowler my first 200 about a year after after watching this video I found a mistake I did not notice before and now I am more consistent and bowled and 300
Another mistake beginner's have (I did this too) is not cupping your wrist. The cup generates all the revs
It's actually the yo-yo effect that automatically happens as the ball leaves your fingers. The wrist cup helps.
LIQUIDMETAL how can i do the yoyo effect if the ball feels too heavy to do it?
I've been contemplating 2 handing and tried for the first time a few days ago. It took me two low games to finally start picking up on what I was doing wrong. My first two games were around 100 and my third game was a 190
I'm back after previously commenting on this video 8 months ago to say that I basically gave up on 2H bowling.
When the lanes are freshly oiled I'm able to bowl really well two handed. As soon as the pattern starts to break
down I can't stop my ball from overly hooking and either nose diving into the head pin (leaving split after split..)
OR.. hitting the Brooklyn side of the pocket. I was finally able to work out my balance at the foul line throwing
the ball two handed, but was never able to achieve the speed that's necessary to counter my very high rev rate
as a 2 handed bowler. I just couldn't for the life of me figure out how to get my ball speed up. If I could average
16-18 mph two handed instead of the low 13-15 mph then I probably would've never gone back to my typical
thumb in ball style one handed bowling. It was fun while it lasted (aside from all the splits..) but I gave up lol
Send your video of your bowling form to our Facebook page “Art of Bowling” and let’s see if we can help
@@ArtOfBowling Will do! I'll send you one I already have available that's from about 6 months ago. The only thing that I'd say has changed since then is my form is a bit smoother and not so stiff looking.. but other than that, the speed hasn't changed much so it's still worth sending you an older video since I don't know when I'll be able to get a newer one sent over. Thanks! If you could help me figure out why I'm not getting the ball out fast enough I'd love to go back to 2H. When I'm able to hit the pocket, 2H strikes wayyyyy more often. I've bowled thumb in ball typical release for 30 years but have always had issues with low RPM, clearing my thumb properly, and leaving 10 pins all the time from lack of power going into the pocket. Sending it within a few minutes! Thanks!
EDIT - the video is actually on my UA-cam channel if that's any easier for you? If not I'll still link to the FB page.
I’ll take a look
For all two handlers I would try more power and not as much curve,doing that got me to an average of a 170 game
Done dowload this video for further study, as im a 2hander, my main problem is the swing direction, which is my elbow are far away from my body 😂 and i constantly get an early hook, maybe too much rotating and low speed, any advise Arthur?
Thanks alot for the knowledge 🌹
#MalaysianFans
#2hand
Lots of advice please send two videos to my fb page and i will be happy to tell you what i see. Thanks for watching and..well you know the rest😃
@@ArtOfBowling thanks for the reply arthur, i wish you stay in malaysia to be my coach though 😝😂
Arthur, as a 2hander, we do generate more rev and speed, so should we put more rotation to the ball? And could you upload a guides on proper 2handed release? 👉🏻👈🏻
Have A great day arthur 🙏🏻 just found your FB page, hit em like button right up! 💪🏻
#MalaysianFans
@@shahizad2755 yup too much rotating and ball speed decrease towards the end to the pin is the main problem too for me.. hahahahaa... main kat mane salu bro?? two handed jgkke..
@@ZqemTM hahahahaha sini jgak jumpaaa yea.. Main penang bang, 2handed jgak, area mnaa bang?
@@shahizad2755 la penang ke.. aku kat PJ selangor nie.. hahaha.. syok jgk tgk ramai yg da start main 2 handed ni..
Can you make a tutorial video how to throw a back up ball with 2 hand bowling thank you Sir
Im a 2handed bowler and i have a problem where my release is to forward, any tips for 2handed bowler release?
Something I'd like to see to comment on if youd like to post a side view of your approach to my fb page I'll be happy to comment
Do you offer online lessons/analysis?
does anyone know how to keep the ball from rolling over the finger holes? i’ve heard that’s a bad thing but i don’t know how to remedy it.
I would have to see video our new patreon page benefit will help when it is up and ready to go
im having the same issue. one guy tood me its because im coming around the side of the ball too much rather than adjusting my wrist to the left first and the as im releasing ..going back to the normal straightened out hand position
i feel like im pretty good at 2 handed. i average 200 + and have been doing 2 hands for 6 ish years. but lately i have been inconsistent with my shots. idk why am i doing this
Ive always noticed that when i flick my fingers at the end it gives it more forward spin
This video is extremely helpful for exactly what I'm doing. I'm a conventional style bowler with about a 300 rev rate. I've won a total of 4 tournaments and I have 13 sanction 300 games with 3 sanction 800 series. During the lockdown I started practicing the two handed style now for about 9 months. The problem I was running into is I was trying to have the same approach with the two handed game as my conventional game. You are spot on with this as it doesn't work. I recently changed my approach with my two handed game and it made a huge difference.
Coach, do you provide online coaching?
Yes we are working on our website if youd like for now you can send video to me through messenger. Please try to take a side view and a rear view video. The side view from two lanes over on the ball side. On the rught lane if righty and left lane if lefty.
Two handed hurts my wrist after a couple games. Is that normal or am I doing something wrong? The right side of my right wrist hurts. (Right handed)
make sure your hand stays underneath the ball until you’re about to release instead of just being behind it. my ball wouldn’t hook until i kept my hand under it.
What do you say that some of these same mistakes could be made with one handed no thumb bowlers
Make sure body is sideway and not straight forward. This gives the balls rotation more forward motion then spinning sideways
I just started out as a two handed bowler but I have too much spin and it curves all the way to the left and I only hit one or two pins. How do I fix this?
Try increasing the speed of your approach. Increased speed will generally increase your ball speed so your ball should travel further down the lane before hooking, I think. Lane conditions will also play a factor. If the lanes are dry balls will generally hook more anyway.
Johnny Rigney ok thank you!
Is a healthy and fit 70 year old bowler averaging 208 bowling one handed with low revs possibly capable of switching to two handed if he is willing to work hard at making it happen?
If it doesnt hurt and you are athletic enough try a three step drill
@@ArtOfBowling Thank you.
I am a 2 hander how about rev rerate
wish you have shown a shot with a negative axis release. I am not sure what you mean?
Proper foot work
Going to be posting a video soon on a drill for the foot work
question: is it bad to cup your wrist too much, i always feel like i cup my wrist so much it doesn't feel right. if we see belmo throw the ball his wrist is almost flat at the apex of the lift :(
Pyerex no it’s really good to cup your wrist it gives more control
I feel like this yea I've skill capped throwing 2 hands 😭
did u switch ur gear dureing the year ? like different balls make you really see ur skillcap issue differently
I have a problem when I bowl with 2 hands.. My ball speed decrease twice than my normal 1 handed ball speed
Id love to see a video send a side view video to my facebook page and Ill tell you what I see
you sacrifice speed for rotation
@@4G64SicKShoT what if I run twice faster than my 1 handed bowl style?
@@arthurhmzh ive seen people take 1 step a second and seen people run to the line whatever speed your comfortable with, tho the faster you run to the line the faster youll pull the ball back prolly messing up accuracy
This is good info, but I don't understand all the video cuts every time Arthur pauses in his speech. Is there something wrong with just letting him talk amd putting that on UA-cam?
is there a way i can increase my power and speed of the ball as a 2 handed bowler?
I struggle with the same problem. I'm 16, 5'6, with a rev rate barely approaching 400 if I'm lucky with 14 lbs and my speed is low for a 2 hander. Keeping my torso lower to the line even with knee bend constantly throws me off balance and I pull the shot every time. I keep my elbow straighter in my swing because the bent elbow makes me pull my shots even more. My knees are bad as it is so the proper knee bend kills my knee within 5 frames. Any tips for help?
If you want more power and speed to your ball, I would suggest looking at how Jason Belmonte and Jesper Svensson bowls depending on your height and type of release. There are several good bowlers and watching them should give you an idea of what to do correctly to get the power and speed you want. If you want an even better comparison between your style and theirs, try recording yourself from a side angle and then comparing them side-by-side to a pro 2-hander. Personally, I'm not a 2-hander but this should give you a rough idea of what to do to improve...
@@jordanwiththeuselesscokeca69 I know what Belmo and Svennson can do, and also I always ask to get a video from behind and the side but they always come out like shit
another two handed league player, i enjoy it :D
@@sadboisonly1004 hey, from what i see on instagram and other videos ive seen this guy with very little knee bend. But still pulls it off, from what i see he tends to release the ball earlier but his speed is kind of low too. This is his IG @hmbowls1 . I have been trying to improve speed like some people say have more momentum, eg moving faster, but when i move faster i tend to go off balance. I watch a lot of osku as his speed is just unbelievable. He tends to have very fast steps till i even lost count on how many they are. Maybe i just have to adapt to the balance after that fast walk up?
It just a little quicker than just two fingers I did that for several years before I started to use my thumb so two hands is easy for me
i always hook it too much and i do not know how to change that i’m only 14
Cupping your wrist less can help. Speeding up walking, pushing the ball with the palm of your hand
The two handed approach really doesn't speak to me any more than 1 handed bowling does. The big thing for me is I have had so many issues with thumb and wrist injury due to thumb that I'm over it. Time to go 2 handed.
Thats exactly how it happened for me. Was on the bowling team in high school and sprained my thumb. It was either teach myself 2-handed, or sit out for most of the season. I loved league play too much.
my most common problem is the ball thumping when i throw it down the lane, i need it to me smooth
I do that too. it is annoying
me2. how do we fix this??
@@lovewinson3 I have a video someone took of my last shot getting my first 300 two handed. I thumped the ball on the lane like usual and got a great strike to get 300. In the end I do not think it matters.
@@trevorfisher6309 it most certainly does matter. Before I got my code red plugged, the slightest inconsistency in my release caused it to run right over the thumb hole. Once that happens, it doesn't even begin to come back
I think this is caused by a later release and your hand is still under the ball creating loft and pushing the ball further out onto the lane. Maybe getting a bit lower on your body position could have you release the ball closer to the foul line.
How can I get consistent foot work I'm 2 handed
Practice like crazy. But you should also make sure your balance is working for you so you can easily repeat your footwork for every shot. Send in your videos and let’s have a look
@@ArtOfBowling if you look at my UA-cam channel I have bowling vids
i cant figure out how to hook it less
yes ok
Experience😂
Number 3 suggests that Jason Belmonte bowls two handed incorrectly
There is 2 ways to bring the ball back, those being the elbow bending or keeping it straighten but bender a little. Correct me if I’m wrong
Pwr+rev/lane conditions= strike condition (win condition)
Edit: I don’t even mention aim bc if you can’t aim you should work on that before you try to curve a ball.
We all make these mistakes but dont worry we have to work with it because we all make mistakes
Also practice makes perfect
hello Mr.robot of bowling
One of biggest things is adjusting incorrectly because of lane conditions that change from lane to lane 😒
that happens to us one handers too
Yall that lowness of the body helps ALOT
Is having too much tilt a bad thing for two handed bowlers?
Too much tily will have your ball spinning down the lane and in heavier oil patterns not be a beneficial a 0 tilt will allow for maximum surface to come in contatact with the lane a 10 - 15% tilt is what most feel is best for a ball. We are currently researching the effects of tilt on a bowling ball. Thanks for watching...
I am seriously considering converting to 2 handed bowling.
I would if I could.
im just here so my friends dont trash me tomorrow
N0T CL!VE how did that go btw?
I'm tired of seeing these two handed bowling tip videos that are super short and without much as far as examples go.
I want to see a 10+ minute video that breaks down all the DO'S and DO NOTS! With examples for both each time they
have more information to relay to us. I've actually found that I learn way more and even faster by watching all the best
2H bowling pro's play their matches etc. There's also some very helpful super slow motion videos you can watch of the
best 2H bowlers in the world. It'll show you in slow motion their approach, their backswing, their release, their footwork,
their angles etc. Watch those and then compare your own style afterwards and make adjustments. Aside from that of
course the rest is all just practice, practice, practice!
I wasn’t going to subscribe til I saw the Pokeyhat @ 2:54...
I told them all that if they do anything funny on camera it might end up on the channel
I agree...
Gotta have a hook to catch folks!
At 1:59 is it me or is one of his arms huge and the other one small
I does for some reason
low camera frame rate. Moving object compresses between frames too far apart
2 hands to generate rpm? I just have one thing to say about that. If ej can keep up with the best 2 handers with 1 hand so can you. It's all about learning that yo-yo effect and learning that your legs generate most of your power. 2 handers are not superior by any means. Walter ray won all of his titles with one hand and hes crowned in my eyes as the greatest bowler to ever live at this point in time. Sure belmos the best right now but that usually doesnt last long
God bless everyone and have a good day : )
I Bowl 2 handed but I let go of the ball with my off hand as soon as I start swinging the hand with the ball in it forward. That way I still kind of Bowl the ball one handed but without the thumb still. Does anyone else do it like that?
I bowl exactly like that too!
I think its also easier for my, i used to bowl with 1 hans so i think its easier to repeat shots
That is what you are suppose to do. Its called two handed approach not two handed release. Releasing with two hands, will punish your back greatly.
To those who say don't bowl two-handed, have an open mind. I never liked to bowl until I bowled the two-handed way. It got me into bowling and i'm glad it did. Don't be an ass and tear down new players who are doing it a different way. With one hand I can barely get over 100, with two my high score is 225 and I regularly get in the 190s. Have an open mind and support the new players, by insulting them, you are preventing people from playing the game. Grow up.
Yup, cant do it the way that takes skill to create rev , so you take the easy way out and go 2 hand.
Square Wheel Ask anyone who bowls, two-handed is harder to be consistent with but ok 😂
Can you be to old to bowl 2handed
Walter Ray converted
Bowling two handed can be more physically taxing, since you’re generating more RPMs and you need a lot more speed to match. So that extra physicality is something to keep in mind. Age is less a factor than whether or not you can get you body into the right positions