2018 Porsche 911 GT2 RS on-board lap record - The Bend Motorsport Park | MOTOR
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- Watch now to see the 2018 Porsche 911 GT2 RS on-board lap record. Ride onboard with Warren Luff as MOTOR Magazine sets the first production car lap record around The Bend Motorsport Park’s epic 7.77km long, 35-corner GT Circuit configuration - a 3min 28.079sec.
As of July 2018, the 911 GT2 RS is the current record holder for fastest production vehicle at the Nurburgring Nordschleife. With a twin-turbocharged 3.8-litre flat-six, 515kW and rear-drive, it’s one seriously rapid machine.
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i think its time to change the location of the australian gran prix
Danny Ric hammering around the full length of this track in the Renault next year would be....epic...to say the least!
I don't think it's FIA Spec 1 approved unfortunately. Plus Tailem bend is in bum fuck nowhere which doesn't help either.
Are you kidding? This is a 7.7 km go kart track, pure Mickey Mouse stuff with cars.
Actually there are romours about F1 racing there instead of Melbourne (most likely using the 4.9km configuration track)
Don't know ... Melbourne is a good circuit with a great setting (quite similar to Montreal), and Tailem Bend does not strike me as anything special circuit-wise. Somewhere between Barcelona and Budapest with hints of Silverstone, but in a really boring setting. There are MUCH better racetracks in this world.
3:24 minutes of goodness
that track seems really long, and a lot of work...I wonder how the drivers feel about it?
They can split it up into multiple configurations, this one is the longest at 7.77km and 35 corners. For almost all racing, they intend to use a shorter/wider 4.95km configuration. The additional loop used to create the 7.77km layout is very difficult to pass on so when racing, drivers tend to find themselves single-filing it through there until they're back on the 4.95km bit.
Yes, apparently the GT two RS to set up a little bit too low for some tracks. Apparently, that’s one of the changes that the ‘MR’ option includes, is to raise the right height!
Such a g force
Corners so flat and stable, amazing driver!
Angry 8 even a 320d corners like this. What’s the big deal?
gt2 can corner at the 320d top speed! no biggie, none whatsoever
My dad comes home after,work and brings me your monthly mags as soon as they come out love,your magazines and vids I'd love to see it in real life tho that would be a dream come true
Anyone know what time the GT3 did here?
Thanks for sharing but what were those awful screeching noises (not from tire slip of course)??
prolly cup2n2 not cup2r tire
Sounded like metallic grind.
Sounds like tyres hitting inner guards
You know a track is long if it takes 3mins to complete
Man where is this place?
The Bend Motorsport Park in South Australia, brand new racetrack
Motor Magazine looks out of control!
Wold someone share lap times from the other production cars please?
great track!
Lacks features/“landmarks” to make it interesting! Lots of corners but feels a bit bland...
weird all TC and nannys on. also what was the weird warning that kept appearing?
The warning is for loss of traction. I guess the traction control can't keep up with the driver.
You don't really need to turn the PSM off if you intend to drive fast and straight, it only intervenes if you make a mistake. Warning was intercooler fluid running low
Looks like the laptime could be further improved. He missed quite a few apexes and gear shifts. The track looks nice though, can't wait to play it in one of the sims.
Totally agree - didnt look especially smooth for a pro driver - def left some time on the table
2.3g is this or real or the G meter malfunction !!
Pony, I'll have a go at answering that one...
It's a question of other factors.
Car corners on a dead flat surface, normal tyres, no throttle or brake, you'll see about 1.1g. Throw in a little bit of bank / positive camber to the track surface, and that goes up to 1.2 g. Now let's say going down off the crown of the road, into the apex clipping point, gives a 300mm or 400mm drop. So you go through a 'dip' that's about half a m deep, in about 1 second. That takes your vertical loading from 1g, to about 1.1g, which increases your potential lateral loading from 1.1 to 1.2...
Now let's say you're doing somewhere around 140 ~ 160 km/h. How much downforce is the aero adding? Let's say (theory ~ nice round numbers) the car weighs 1,400kg, and it makes 350 kg of downforce. That's possibly a little bit optimistic, but... so that's a quarter of the car's mass. So that's a 25% increase in potential lateral acceleration. So, 1.2g + 25% = 1.5g.
Now what would happen if, apart from the camber of the road, the corner was at the bottom of a hill? Suppose you get another .2 or .3 g (lateral) because you were going downhill, but now that's stopped...
And finally, that figure is an instantaneous sample. So, suppose the car clipped the curb on the inside, and the sample was taken (for that 1/100th of a second) as the wheel bumped into the compression damping and sharply lifted the inside wheels of the car, and the movement was exaggerated by the fact the sensor was high up in the body, like just under the roof, or bolted to the cage at about the level of the driver's shoulder?
Your lateral acceleration figure is exaggerated and complicated by movements and rotations in other directions and orientations.
And one final fact, I am an old man, and I have been watching Warren Luff navigate racing cars for a long LONG time. He uses all these facts and many more I don't even know, to get the best possible performance out of the car. Being able to do that and being skilled at it, is his job. This is why computers are within a decade of taking over the job of interstate truck drivers, and cab drivers, but they are a lot further than that from taking Lewis Hamilton's job. They will get to that point, but they haven't got there yet.
Well so what kind of actual Gs does the 911 GT2 RS pull, I suppose a max of 1.1Gs from your description,
Ponygt662 - Roughly, yes, about that. Depends on track temp and tyre temp and which tyres and exactly what hotmix, and what the cat drug in fer breakfast...
On a good surface, with good modern tyres, with no aerodynamic input (up or down) a car should be able to get very roughly 1 g of lateral.
If you go back to an FJ Holden on 13 inch retreaded crossplys, or say a Morris Minor, then you have rubbish weight distribution and rubbish suspension geometry, and rubbish tyres, on a surface that's "tar" in a sense, but not modern hotmix...
I drove taxis from the mid '80s, and a VC c'dore could pull roughly 0.75 g, but it had good handling and chassis dynamics. An XE Falcon could pull about 0.8 ~ 0.85, but it had handling that was pretty wicked if you went beyond that. One was a car you could drive over the limit, and one wasn't. So the C'dore was actually a quicker and much easier car to drive.
Today, a normal car can pull slightly less than 1 g, and a real good sporty car, with good tyres, can pull somewhere around 1.1 or 1.2. That's down to the grip of the tyres.
Any more than that, depends on other things - like aerodynamic downforce, and dynamic incidentals, like the car rocking while it goes around the corner, which would show up on the data traces...
It's a bit like quoting a peak hp figure off a dyno, you can cherry-pick the data to give an answer that's what you want...
but the GT2 RS not just shows these figures, it delivers as well right, lap records aside it is an insane machine, it probably is one of worlds best track day special car thats not over done and over the top like McLaren P1 GTR etc
Agreed.
And it has history, more than nearly any other current production car on the planet.
And despite being in the same ballpark, top speed and straight-line acceleration wise, there's almost no super-car or hyper-car or dreamboat (thinking Ferrari la Ferrari here) that you could drive around any major Australian city, over traffic calming, around dicky little round-abouts, in & out almost any normal suburban driveway, and up and down a multi-story city carpark.... It's not quite as every-day practical as an old Corolla or a Mazda3, but it's not all that far off. Nothing else which comes even close in performance, is anywhere near as road useable as a GT2.
Compare to a Caterham, high end power model. That's got your bum 2 or 3 inches off the road, like a gokart, and it has no roof, and it is just as quick while the speeds are under about 100 mph, but once over that, the aerodynamics are a disgrace. A Caterham is borderline in terms of day to day useability. Same is true of an Arial Atom, or a Radial. A GT2 is not in the same class as those at all. If you had something like an old Ford Cortina, or let's say a Holden Gemini, with a turbo Barra in it, turned up to 700+ hp, and a cage, (or half cage) that's pretty close to what a GT2 would be like.
Sweet juice 😮
This track does not seem to flow, no real fast corners, all slow. I think they need to revise it if it’s going to be suitable for F1 or MotoGP.
That would be the International circuit then. 4.95km instead of 7.77km, but only half the corners and a much better "race" circuit for battling against other cars.
There’s several corners that he’s taking at 160km/h apex speed, on street tires...that’s fast.
Stay on your sim. It's where you belong 😂
USAF Colonel, I doubt it, because if you were you would look at all factors like all good militray managers/leaders. Look at the speed he is carrying. Yes he missed a few apexes, but he's on the move with road tyres. It's like slipping when doing Mach 2!!! This is the second longest track in the world, and extremely difficult I know as I live here and drive a GT3 on it. it would be in the top 10 best tracks in the world!
Who designed these kerbs? The are all in wrong places. BTW they need to put some trees or somethings eye-catching within the track so it didn't look faceless.
Totally agree, no character.
They should've rather built something like the old Hockenheimring instead of this go-kart circuit. The Bend's layout may be nice for track days and such, but apart from that it's a waste.
No back straight................
Driving could had been way better. Too much understeer and not so good racing lines
Cool, be sure to tell Luffy that next time you're standing next to him on the Bathurst podium.
@@motorofficial Not a criticism of WL. Unfamiliar car and track at the time - I'm sure that he would be the first to admit that he could clean that lap up quite a bit. Heck - my PB in my 2016 GT3RS is 3:28.7 and I def ain't nowhere near WL ability.
Ziggy Freud yes the track was still very dusty from construction and still brand new! Others have gone faster since, which means we’ll just have to go and get the record back!
@@motorofficial Thanks for the reply ! You're right - the track is def faster now - hence my improvement :) Please get Luffy back there and sort out this chatter once and for all :-)
Such a great facility... such a boring track. There is no character, too many slow corners. Its like six wintons in a row. Thank god Philip Island is still around.