EZdrummer 3 | New from Toontrack | Overview, Features, and Sounds
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0:00 - Intro
0:21 - New Features, EZdrummer 2 Comparison
2:46 - The Sounds
5:40 - vs Superior Drummer 3
8:03 - Conclusion
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Great overview Joe, thanks. I am particularly intrigued by the new Bandmate feature. Looks like a killer tool. Would like to see you do an in-depth video on this feature.
Joe, wow. Awesome wrap up on the EZD3. Much appreciated!
Thanks for your information. I’m about to purchase ez 3 . It will definitely work for what I need. Thanks again for the great advice
Just bought it today, cant wait to put this on my songs tomorrow! Greetings from Poland❤
Hi. I use that stuff with my edrums. I got EZD3 already because of the library.
I recognized that they updated the MIDI functionality of EZD3. Now you can easily map your edrums. That was the feature I missed the most in EZD2.
In SD3 I really love the velocity curves feature to tweak the response of your pads library-wise. And the availability of more articulations such as cymbal and hihat bell sounds.
The whole thing connected to my Audiofront eDRUMin10 module... yeah! Awesome!
@@EJL045 I do, dude!
Ive recorded drums with dish towel on -in the real hansa studio and the sampling has it nailed,
I'm glad this allows us to adjust the size! Definitely going to update ez drummer 2
Hit me up if you are looking for expansion packs with 50% discount!
Well I have to say I am impressed. I especially and I cannot stress this enough especially enjoyed and appreciated the simple patterns that you played I would not mind hearing how the Times Sound at some point but it's nice just to hear a tight pattern played like you would normally use on a song you know. Most of the videos I have seen the drums are so wild and all over the place you can't really focus on the individual sound of the instruments anyway thank you... dont change.
The grid editor is a major improvement, especially for us who are into building unusual and custom drum tracks. Kudos!!! Now, as a guitar player I am interested in making backing tracks, not just drums. In future versions you should consider to synchronize EZdrum and EZbass.
You pay 100 for the upgrade not 170$ for the whole thing buddy
@@MEL0HS and considering I am not a drummer that is a huge bargain! However, any more/new integration with EZbass is always appreciated!
6:33 I remember demo-ing EZ Drummer 2 years ago and you could route out the mixer channels to your DAW mixer and add EQs and compressors etc there, which is how I always do it. I think it's the 'Out 1/2' bit at the bottom you see at 2:00. But yeah SD3's mixer is still more powerful with all the bleed options, mic routing and ability to add/delete channels.
5:58 Yup! As a SD3 owner I make a new drumkit for every song, I've never used the same kit twice! So many ways to mix&match all the drums, to say nothing of the dozens of presets.
7:08 I dig the new photoreal graphics in EZ3, almost wish SD3 had that, though I'm guessing we'd then lose the UI thing where the appearance of the drumkits reflects the drums, which I love.
Nice overview, thanks!
Isn't it like over 200 euros extra?
@@impactQuake Well worth it, if you're a music producer.
@@ANNIHILISTIC even if you're beginner music producer who doesn't have lot of money and does it more for a hobby?
@@impactQuake No. SD3 is not for beginners or hobbyists, for that I'd recommend EZ drummer. I started out as a hobbyist and was goin to get EZ drummer, but they had Superior Drummer 2 on a giant sale, so I got that instead and then eventually upgraded to SD3.
BTW if you don't have a lot of money there's tons of decent free drum software, check this video out ua-cam.com/video/LJLmIp2BFeA/v-deo.html and I also recommend the LABs drums and LABs vintage drums (also free). Cheers!
Thanks! Great video.
Hopefully they'll do something about the generic look in Superior when you load an EZX.
Meanwhile I still have to buy either - I 've got NI's Studio Drummer if needed. Glad to see you are running Studio One like me, by the way.
Anyhow my favourite EZX's are Duality I & II, Big Stage & Reggae, but the EZ Drummer 3 Core Library? I love 5 of the 7 kits in it. So good out of the box!
(This said I love 7 out of the 7 kits in Superior Drummer Core 3 Library)
I'm jumping into this ezdrummer 3, was wondering if the program will read my Ezdrummer 2 presets?Thank you for your time.
I can't get the percussion part from EZD3 to work in SD3. The drum part is fine though.
Great inspiration.
When I record a guitar audio on a track in my daw and want to drag it and drop onto EZ3 it won't. From where do you drag it? from the daw track direct?
Need to find again, some time ago when I first installed ezdrummer 2 trial. When I was going through many of the kits, drums, and other sections in the Library. Upon some miracle fluke I found a stick count in and saved that into a user section. I then installed the paid version of EZ drummer 2. When I went back to find that stick count in again in the libraries, I could not find it again. Tried to communicate this with their techs and they told me it was never in there, I told them that was not true because I had that track saved from their library. Does anyone know if they have ever added a stick count-in in any upgrade or in EZ drummer 3?? It was really neat when I found it, but I have not been back into it for a few years now and somewhere in my files there should be that count-in file. Would like to find it again, with some help or input out there????
What I would like is a big list of drums and cymbals to scroll through. I can't actually find that in EZD 3. Am i doing something wrong?
is there a way to use ex druer with a digital mixer? what I'm asking is that is there a way to use ez drumers that allows you to map each drum or cymbal with a ubs input on a digital mixer like in the same way that you would map each track in a multitrack recording to an input on a mixer.
Hi ! Question for you, sir : In your libraries you've got one called "Addictive Drums 2". How did you import the AD library inside EZX 3 ? Thank you by advance for your answer.
I can't remember exactly how I did it, but this may help: ua-cam.com/video/5rx9gjkc-Ek/v-deo.html
Can you trigger the sounds from your midi controller? O
r is it just a pattern & groove player? Thanks.
I don't have any pre existing ezdrummer software. Do I need it to download 3, or no?
Real good sounds.
Hopefully with the updated ez3 and the ezx and sdx library can be more consistent with the velocity layer,
The only thing makes me quit using superior drummer is that some libraries have a hard hitting and some weak snare hit even with velocity up to 127.
Yes SD3 has been frustrating for me to dial OUT the machine gunning as well on the snare. Sometimes you are right, the velocity doesn't always deliver either. I found the best results I got were using Slate Trigger on the snare. Sounds like things are a little more natural on this one. Maybe they added a few more velocity hits to the round robin libraries.
It is definitely a pain. How I've handled this is by stacking the rimshot of the same snare (or any other snare really) with the center hit. I then adjust the velocity parameters for that stacked rimshot to trigger from 115-127 (rough estimate, obviously that is to taste).
Death and Darkness is by far the best sampled from them. It’s so good
Hi I just got it but how can you ad inputs? I mean my drum kit has 6 toms and 7 cymbals, so how can I set custom sounds to each of my pads??
I have used Addictive Drums and they have no proper hihats or rides. You can try to tweak them months and you cannot get musical result. Here you can hear immediately out of the box that hihats and rides are more than ok. Excellent! Same is with Superior Drummer. This is something Addictive folks needs to repair. Sorry to say that...
sold on the band mate tab alone !!!!!
Sr; where it the ezdrummer dll in pc ??? i dont fine it,,and a need for put in to de Reason 10.Youcan help me ???
Still no NKS support ?
Can I use this with garage band
is there a latin style drum kit in this vst?
Hi, can you change the tempo or the time signature in a middle of a song or is this still exclusive to SD3? Thx !
Tenpo will change with the DAW, but I don't think time signature will.
In EZD3 can you swap out individual drums for other EZX drums? Like can I use the snare from EZX Jazz? Etc.
Yes you can! Hit me up if you are looking for EZD3 and expansion packs with 50% discount!
I know it sounds like a funny question but..is EZDrummer 3 'Sound Quality' wise, better than 2?
Or is EZ3 more based on features?
Also do you know if I can still play my expansions from EZdrummer 2?
You can definitely still use all of your EZX expansions. I don't know if it's better than EZ2, but it is different (different studio/drums, etc). If you already own EZ2 you automatically get that library as an option within EZ3.
I don't know how much experience You have with SD3 and now ED3 but in Your opinion:
To edit drums in grit editor to sort of make it sound more human as much as You can - which one is better? Does this new ED3 features of tempo balance and stuff like that give You more options than SD3 or still SD3 is the same or better in this case?
Superior is still deeper.
The new features are really cool; especially Bandmate.
That said, I LOVE XLN's Addictive Drums Kits sooo much more.....their Dry Drum Kit is killer.
I have Addictive Drums too - some great sounds in there, though they tend to be a bit more processed.
Does EZDrummer 3 allow you to change or reassign the midi map? I need to be able to change the midi note for a specific drum or cymbal so the incoming midi note from my e-drum kit triggers the drum or cymbal I want. EZDrummer 2 does not have this feature - Toontrack support had said that was intentional and you would have to upgrade to SD3 to get that functionality. Really hoping they included this in EZ3 since all other drum VSTs at this price point include this.
I looks like you can custom assign each drum to a different midi note. You can even "learn" which note just by hitting the e-drum.
I don't have a host VST package. I want to use this as a stand alone. Does EZDrummer 3 Stand alone have a timeline, where I can create the entire drum track of a song?
It does.
Can you still use EZD2 drum sounds? I like the modern kit from EZD2 and wouldn't want to lose them
If you already own EZD2 you get the sounds in 3. If not, you can but them as an expansion.
Can you bring in outside sounds/samples to use with this software?
You can.
Nice overview but wait a minute, I thought EZ3 did not give you the ability to export RAW tracks? Are they completely raw in the original mix or are they just treated "less"? I have EZ2 and SD3 and you are right, SD3 is overkill and in a way i can see where it kills creativity. I just want a solid sounding maple kit and a few snares. Then just get me in the DAW and I can process how I want. I do think the cymbals in EZ3 sounds really good though and this was one of the things I contacted them about. Too many fizzy or splatty cymbals, there weren't enough solid sounding crashes. Looks like they have addressed that.
According to Toontrack, the original mix is the drums as they were recorded with no additional processing.
@@GreenLightSound Interesting. They had replied to a FB post and said it was not possible so that is definitely welcome. I wonder if original mix is small eq tweaks on the board though so technically they wouldn't be raw. Very nice sounding kits though. So many options in SD3 that you can waste time on, nice they they help you out by putting together kits that have a nice natural sound off the bat.I'm tempted to drop more cash on this even though I said no more drum programs...
Could I ask, have Toontracks eventually implemented the ability to have time signature changes in a song? It's something terribly lacking from version 2 if you're into more progressive styles of music.
I don't think so.
Yes! Right click on timeline and go "Edit Time Signature..."
How do you compare this to Studio drummer in Kontakt which one is better ?
I've never used studio drummer, but the Toontrack tools are the best virtual drums I've used.
Just spent an hour trying to figure out how to contact customer service regarding a potential product purchase question. Really infuriating
Hi I have drum samples that I need to replace/recreate..you seem very good at this drum program..can I use your services? Are you available?
Contact me through www.greenlightsound.com and we can work something out.
Can drums kits and sounds be imported from Superior 3 into EZD 3?
No, but it does work the other way around.
I've always liked superior drums 3 for drum sounds but i believe the cymbals in addictive drums sound way better and more real. Especially ride and hi hat... But the shells on SD3 i think sound amazing
Some of the SDX expansions have different/better cymbal options.
More "real"? :)
They are ALL physically recorded real cymbals.
If you dont like them, sure. But they are all real.
@@cederickforsberg5840 mm. I know what you mean.. maybe I didn't use the right phrase... I guess I'm trying to say is the cymbals on AD2 you can hear more of the metal sound or pick up more of the metal sound of it. Versus the cymbals Superior drummer they sound more flat. And I'm referring more to the ride cymbal then anything... I haven't found one ride on Superior drummer that I like.
@@ExisteDiosInc Yeah, you dont LIKE it, but they are still real ;) different rides sounds different.
I mean, I AGREE with you, I dont like most rides in SD3 stock library either.
My favorite ride for metal is in the SDX Metal Foundry with Tomas Haake Sabian Big Bell ride, or whatever it's called.
That ride bell is amazing! (to my ears) hhehe
@@cederickforsberg5840 thanks for the heads up... I'm gonna check it out. Rides are what i most look for in these drum vst's
i mean the superior drummer 3 is amazing in its own right cus i love deep diving into shit but look man i just want to write songs with ease. ill first get EZ then down the line ill get superior. ANYWAYS thanks for the video very informative.
It got the ability to change time signature and tempo ?
Yes
@@GreenLightSound I mean to change multiple time signatures during a track
Plz make EZ drummer for iPad 😢
Can you share why I would want to get this versus the big brother superior?
If you already have Superior, then there's not really a need for this unless you prefer the simplified workflow. Other than that, it comes down to the price difference.
Is it just as good regarding sounds and styles available? I’m fairly a beginner/intermediate but don’t want something that does not sounds “pro” or is too limited. I appreciate the feedback
@Apostolic way Sounds are good to my ears, but Superior has higher resolution samples which may become apparent if you do a lot of processing on them. The variety of styles and sounds is great on both.
I see, thank you much 😊
I can't seem to make it work properly. And the worst part is, I can't even get help. It seems I'm missing my library. What I have doesn't look like what this guy is showing. I don't have a vast library of sounds. Did I do something wrong?
Are you sure you download the library? It was a separate file from the program
@@markusmilesdigweed Just saw this now. I hadn't downloaded it. It's there now and I've watched videos to get me going.
Wow... It sounds so much better than ez 2
You can really dial it in..lol
With a little bit more money you buy the greatest drum program of all times, Superior Drummer 3...
You spelt steven slate drums wrong.
😉
Does superior drummer have the AI stuff like ez drummer that writes drums for you?
Improvement in functionality, but I still think Addictive Drums sounds so much better...
It's so subjective. I tried addictive and really didn't like it at all.
@@gearoftones8585 Yes, and Im glad that everyone has his own taste, it would have been very boring if everyone used the same drum sounds. :o)
@Solal I agree.
@Solal Studio drummer, full kit versions sound much better than Addictive Drums.
@Solal don’t forget the snare…The snare always sounds like it has a 15 db boost in 2-4 khz area, as does the room. Always rolling of the highs to make it sound not so nasty.
If you turn the humanize feature to 100% the program will act like a real drummer and practice fills and blast beats while you're trying to tune up!!!
If you didn't laugh at that...
You're a drummer
Not whats its cracked up to be, controlling the Hi Hats is a nightmare and Bandmate isn't all that good either, stick with EZ2, its more practical
What i don't like about the software is they over complicated it everybody knows to how to use the piano roll in the daw they use to learn another editor that takes up space in the gui is quite pointless.
You would think if you have EZ drummer 2 you just pay for an upgrade but nooooooo. We have to pay the whole thing all over again.
Your video is fine, but Toontrack has a horrible business model. They gave no loyalty discount to owners of prior versions, and don’t support prior versions on current operating systems. Vote w/ your feet & buy some other product like Slate Drums instead.
I think it's only like 99 bucks to upgrade from ezd2 to ezd3
@@Nospoon777 I was on superior drummer two, which they basically abandoned. Choices matter, so I won’t buy from them again.
There was a $20 discount via Early Bird ordering. So, $79 vs. $99 for the upgrade for EZD2 owners.
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Yeah, Toontrack have been really lazy about providing graphics for EZX kits in Superior. By trade I´m a designer. I contacted them about some simple solutions and even a built in "graphics editor" that would allow users to load textures onto kits. There are 2 paths they could take... prerendered surfaces for the existing GUI or go 3D with a ealtime render engine (there are plenty around already).
Prerendered is much less likely to cause compatibility problems but real-time 3d would allow the user to modify lots more (and even a community where users cab share studio/room presets).
Unless Toontrack is prepared to standardise graphics across platforms or create platform independent versions for each kit, you would have to go for a compromise.
This would consist of deciding which of the platforms is the "main" one. Original graphics would be created for this and then adaptions created for the other platforms... these would be the "compromise".
Instead of simply having a standard "black" kit in Superior Toontrack chooses the Superior stock kit that most closely resembles (kit pieces shape/size). Then the surfaces of the pieces are changed to use the textures used on the EZX graphics (this is easier and works better using a real-time engine rather than prerendered graphics.
Sure, the kits wouldn´t look as realistic or "technically" correct as the original graphics in the EZX, but I think most users would prefer some kind of graphics "compromise" rather than the black kit.
We´ve actually tinkered around with the rendered assets and replaced them, but you can´t expect the average user to have the graphics skills to do that.
A "cheap" alternative for Superior users now is to load up one of the SDX´s that most closely resembles the EZX they want to use and then replace the SDX drums (sounds) with those from the EZX library. Only the freakiest users will be prepared to spend the time doing this. (We could actually create a community sharing these patches).
Toontrack should really find some kind of solution for Superior users. If not proprietary graphics for the Superior platform, at least some kind of work-around.
Keep in mind, when an Superior user purchases an EZX, they are also paying for the graphics work that was a development cost....
THE FLOOR TOM HAS A LONG SOUND ---HOW CAN I STOPPED SLIGHTLY? THS
Gate, or envelope adjustments.
@@GreenLightSound Hi from Italy....i did but do not go (i use in standalone) i have only envelope but do not give me result. In Sd3 all ok but in Ez 3 problem. Gate in Ez 3 do not exist i dont see...
You start by turning off your caps lock.