Was Dead Island 2 Worth The Wait?
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- Опубліковано 17 кві 2023
- It’s been nine years since Dead Island 2 was announced at E3 2014. Since then, the game has been stuck in a sort of development apocalypse that rivals the one that features within its own fiction. Over the last decade, four separate development studios have attempted to ship Dead Island 2. Four! Series creator Techland, Spec Ops: The Line developers Yager Development, British outfit Sumo Digital and finally, publisher Deep Silver’s own internal studio Dambuster. Four developers. Four completely separate developers, each with their own unique vision and approach to this single project.
This isn’t, traditionally, a good sign. It’s usually a very bad sign. You only need to look at something like Duke Nukem Forever as an example of the kind of game you end up with following a protracted development that bounces between multiple studios.
So after 9 years in the oven and with a conveyer belt of chefs constantly fiddling with the temperature, was Dead Island 2 worth the wait?
Find out more by watching our PC review. - Ігри
Honestly, I don't really get why reviews all approach this game in the context of "okay, but was it worth nine years of hype", rather than "okay, is this just a good game released now". Honestly. I just haven't been following the whole "when Dead Island 2" hype train and all. But it really does just sound like a straightforwardly good game, which fits nicely into the exact sort of first person shooter/brawler experience I was looking for. No live service nonsense like Dying Light. No launch brokenness. Just devs that made a game and sold it and you can buy the game and play it, and you get to murdalize a horde of gratuitously murderable things in entertaining ways. Wonderful.
Interesting never really thought about it
Spoken like someone who remembers when video games weren't supposed to take over your life 👍
You're misreading curiosity as hype.
A simple sequel somehow took nine years to make, and got three separate devs (including some big names) kicked off the project. That's fascinating! Like, it just is. That it eventually shipped, seemingly in a good state, is also fascinating. It's impossible for a reviewer not to think about these things while playing, and it would be dishonest not to bring them up. It's nothing to do with hype.
I mean, it's possible that you don't agree it's interesting. But do you honestly think it's irrelevant? You yourself brought up Dying Light, and that's a different game altogether, by a different studio. But it made perfect sense to bring it up, because it provides relevant context. The opening minute of this video is no different, and tarring it with the 'hype train' brush seems unfair.
@@GwilymWogan they only care about the next shiny remake
@@GwilymWogan "tarring it with the hype train brush"
Man, you're reading way too much into this. I'm just saying people's expectations overall have been colored by viewing the game as something that's been in dev for nine years, not evaluating it fully on its own merits as a game that came out now after what seems to have been a relatively short, clean dev cycle (i.e., the current devs apparently just started more or less from scratch and delivered a complete, polished product). It's just a bias to account for.
People don't realize we use to have a ton of 7/10 games that while not revolutionary was super mindless fun which is exactly what Dead Island 1 was! Great video! Exactly how I feel what you described about it being a miracle this game is out, not buggy, not full of microtransactions, not a live service. Its so refreshing! This is exactly how I felt about the 1st one and exactly what I wanted from this game!
Except the characters and character designs didn't suck in the first one.
@@zackfair6791 the characters in this game seem to have WAY more personality than the first Dead Island characters….
@@zaccampa4055 That doesn't matter because i have zero interest in playing as weirdos.
@@zackfair6791 okay then don’t?….
@@zaccampa4055 Fret not. I canceled my pre order.
Totally agree with you on the solid, 7/10 type of game you wished to play. Too many games are just too much that you can't even be bothered to get started. Give me something I can actually get my chops around 👍
I think good but not extremely innovative or original games are sometimes undervalued. This game looks like something I might pick up on sale when it's cheaper and enjoy a lot over a weekend where I'm wanting to stay in and relax. I don't mind at all something just being fine it can still be a worthwhile experience. I only played the first Dead Island for one day with a friend over at my house who brought the game but it was so memorable and genuinely a great game to play with ssomeone. i ended up playing Riptide much later on steam thinking it was like an updated version of the original but it was actually a different game 😂 I'm surprised Dead Island 2 actually came out honestly it's like a miracle 🙏
what are chops :O
@@RahzZalinto teeth lol get their teeth around. Manageable. Not something you need to dedicate months of your life to complete.
I always felt like Dying Light was the spiritual successor of Dead Island, just lacking the island theme and the oversaturated colours
Agreed...too bad Dying Light 2 turned out to be a glitchy/buggy mess hence why I call it, Dying Light 76. I got rid of the game before I even made it to the 2nd map......no patience for all the nonsense game breaking bugs.
@@vilemk69z98 just because a game was very bugged on the release doesn't mean is gonna stay that way forever. Cyberpunk, days gone, and dying light 2 are a prove of that, they are much better today then when they got released, and DL2 is still getting updates adding new stuff and adding things from DL1. There is even a road map for all the updates for DL2.
@@gabszz True, but by the time the game is finally fixed in like 5 years, the game would be worth less than $20 bucks. More pissed that they expect you to pay FULL RETAIL on a broken and buggy mess of a game...........To this day, Dying Light 2 is still a Buggy and Glitchy mess. Roadmaps are never 100% iron clad, look at that crap, Marvel Avengers and Battlefield V.
The thing that sucks about Dying Light is, simply put, all the permanently missable live service bullshit. Dead Island is at least just a game you can pick up and play without mountains of timed FOMO bait.
@@vilemk69z98 It got patched fast. I’d recommend giving it another shot.
I had a feeling that this would just be good. I dont think there are enough games that are just good. They don't need to be GOTY they just need to be entertainment
Thats what I’ve been trying to tell people about the game but they’re so critical about every little thing, it doesn’t need to perfect nothing is perfect
@Boulder Puncher it works and that what matters sadly
This sounds great tbh! Dying Light just took itself way too seriously for my taste, as opposed to Dead Island's splatter comedy stylings... and if this is just more of the same then I will thoroughly enjoy it!
Dying light 1 was way more exciting than this game. Not to mention, there are way more zombies on screen at once in dying light 1 than there are this game.
I always appreciate Rock Paper Shotgun's reviews/discussions because you manage to always bring up something other news outlets ignore that make the game more compelling. Melee combat is the focus in DI2 vs. firearms, but then you said, the firearms are meant for the spongy bosses and not the cannon fodder zombies. This makes perfect sense, but most other reviews criticize the spongy boss enemies without acknowledging there is something that counters them. Whether this comes too late in the game is subjective, but bringing it up is an example of looking critically at the game as a whole instead of the general narrative (positive, negative) around the game. Keep up the great work!
No,
melee focused game but the melee system is just so damn unpolished like what the hell are those animations and reactions of the zombies.
It's supposed to be cheesy b movie feel
The maps are tiny and hold no atmosphere in them unlike the first dead island. There is no mystery or open world environment to it. You pretty much open a map about the size of a football stadium and it lists everything you can do which is minimal. You get about five safes, a few storage rooms requiring a fuse to buy off the traders and a couple side quests which are listed without having to find them yourself. No other hostile gangs in sight to shoot or survivors to save that you will come into contact with. No cars. You get directed in circles round the maps in a way which the game forces you to go through narrow places or blocked off places. At times it's like a maze, and just turning a corner all the zombies which took ten minutes to fight will re-spawn which is very annoying for a small map. You don't come into contact with anything that stops you doing the story line and if you do the side quests they are extremely boring. This game went a step back in terms of map design. Once you do the missions there is no motivation to go back and do any side quests because there is nothing to the maps. Nothing new to find or anything mysterious. The whole maps poor design choices just become repeated I'm not running through narrow places to do side quests. You're always having to get into a fight like it's doom and use special powers. I completed the game which took about 12 hours to do mostly everything. The first dead island I put in at least 30 hours into it and there was still things left over I could do. That I could still explore. Weapons I could find. Things I had missed out on doing. You had to open a city sized map up and go exploring through the nature on an island. Nothing was listed so everything was still a mystery when you find loot or had to save survivors. Even going through the jungle in the first one finding new zombies felt incredibly fun. Searching through plane wrecked areas and huts. but this new game was a design mess, although released without serious glitches, the maps were incredibly boring comparatively. The only thing I liked in this dead island 2 was the boss levels and the zombie fighting mechanics was incredible, but that's it. The rest of the game was bland other than the fighting experience and story line of searching through large buildings. Another thing I completely didn't like is you have to rely so much one the traders to buy fuses in order to find the best weapons. This game was so watered down and streamlined. It was cheap knock off the first dead island. All you do in this game is go to the traders and work bench every two seconds because you level up so quick, the weapons also become watered down just like the game. This game is probably worth half the price it's going for.
What a great review, insightful and what a great tone. Thanks for making it :)
DI2 is on my radar but not sure if it's something I'm going to seek out until it's on sale. Guess it depends on the co-op game night crews feeling toward it and I sadly think the general vibe is still "Zombie burnout". That said, I am glad to hear it's "good" though and it looks like it nails what I wanted in a sequel. Thanks for taking the time to review it!
It's weird how it's almost been a decade of zombie game burnout with DL being the only series that was able to actually survive building a full game around solely zombies and prosper.
I just preordered it today and can’t wait to stream it Friday giving it my first impressions to see if it was worth the wait.
Is it fun? Does it play well? The Graphics? The play ability & Re-playabity? Is it worth the price? Theses are the main concern for me
Only good things are graphics and gore
Already preordered. Getting it day one. Loved the original, if it's more of the same I'll be happy.
First game I had done so in a while, and was very happy that I did. Been loving it.
Great review! I don't like how others are comparing it to other non related zombie games. They should be comparing it to the first game as its the sequel. I personally really liked the first Dead Island game. It didn't age well and it was clunky. Even with its flaws I still enjoyed it. Its a guilty pleasure of mine and often replay it. This game looks like I'm going to enjoy and appreciate it more than the average player jumping in without playing the first game.
I wouldn’t call Dead Island a “guilty” pleasure. A ton of people enjoyed it. It was a fun ass game! I 100% agree with you when you say that people should only be comparing this game to the first. All I wanted was a new and improved Dead Island and it looks like we got that and then some.
Deep I just realized the kick in and the slow motion when you do like super critical till's reminds me a lot of fear.Even though you can't turn on slow mo like you can't infer ithe beard's the kicking the combat and all that it's kind of like it takes all the best and put it in his army game
I like the old style of games. I don't feel like they are outdated. It's what I prefer and is what I wanted all the new games to feel like.
The first game was perfect for coop and a zoot, hope this is too ☯
Im 95% of the way through the story tomorrow ill finish it. And I feel it was a worthy sequel. I did my first playthrough with Ryan. I'm also playing on old gen and the graphics and performance on launch are actually pretty good.
In my honest opnion they screwed up without keeping it open world, yeah it looks pretty but i dont like being funneled around to point to point without having any real choice in where i want to be
What's the exe size? Surely there can't be an embargo on that
I was honestly hoping the story would be better/more interesting so I'm kind of disappointed on that front. With that being said however, I'm totally down for exploring the world and killing zombies left and right! Just seeing the environments in this video has me excited. I'm a fan of the OG Island and despite it's many flaws I spent countless hours in it. At the end of the day I'd say I'm happy that this game seems to have at least turned out "fine" given it's dev cycle. Good on ya, Dambuster!
I'm really curious what the concept for Dead Island 2 was at each of the previous developers and why Deep Silver kept changing them up.
The way the zombies just flop over is so annoying I can’t. Why would they put so much focus on the combat being cinematic but no work on the ragdoll engine 🤦♂️
The lighting in that last shot looks shockingly good. Does Dead Island 2 have raytraced global illumination?
Nope! It looks brilliant considering it doesn't.
@@rockpapershot is it using ue5
@@allanallen1835ue4
2:05 Wait, did we get hit with the mutagen? That was a big part of Riptide
Well I would be seriously disappointed if the boss enemies weren't a challenge. Isn't that what makes a great game how hard the bosses were? The harder the better
One thing I remember about the first dead island was farming liquor to drink, getting my player drunk, and throwing propane tanks at my friends and blowing them up while exterminating zombies😂
is there a single player that I can play offline or do I need Xbox Live Gold to play the game?
Dying light 2 is literally jumping around in a dead world and you’re basically invisible against the zombies
Here is your essaye on Dead Island and the Iliad
The story of Dead Island 2, an action role-playing video game developed by Deep Silver Dambuster Studios, is often overlooked for its narrative complexity. However, upon closer examination, it becomes apparent that the game's story shares similarities with the epic poem "The Iliad" in terms of complexity. Both narratives involve multifaceted characters, intricate relationships, and deep exploration of human nature, making them comparable in their storytelling depth and complexity.
First and foremost, the characters in Dead Island 2 exhibit layers of complexity akin to those in The Iliad. Just as the Greek heroes in The Iliad possess strengths, flaws, and conflicting emotions, the characters in Dead Island 2 are not one-dimensional. Players encounter various survivors with diverse backgrounds, motivations, and personal struggles. Each character has their own unique story, and their interactions with one another are shaped by their individual personalities, desires, and conflicts. Just like the heroes in The Iliad, the characters in Dead Island 2 are not simply archetypal "good" or "bad" figures, but rather complex individuals with their own complexities and contradictions, making their storylines intriguing and thought-provoking.
Furthermore, the relationships between characters in Dead Island 2 are intricately woven into the story's narrative, similar to the complex web of relationships in The Iliad. In The Iliad, the alliances, rivalries, and conflicts among the Greek and Trojan warriors add depth and richness to the story. Similarly, in Dead Island 2, the relationships between the survivors, their struggles to trust and cooperate with one another, and their attempts to navigate the apocalyptic world together, are central to the game's plot. The evolving dynamics among the characters, their shifting loyalties, and the challenges they face in their interactions with each other, create a multifaceted tapestry of human relationships that mirror the complexities of the relationships depicted in The Iliad.
Moreover, both The Iliad and Dead Island 2 explore the depths of human nature in times of crisis. In The Iliad, the epic poem delves into the psychological and emotional aspects of war, depicting the heroes' struggles with rage, grief, and morality. Similarly, in Dead Island 2, the game portrays the survivors' psychological and emotional responses to the zombie apocalypse, such as fear, trauma, and desperation. The characters' moral choices, ethical dilemmas, and inner conflicts are thoughtfully explored, adding layers of complexity to the story. Both narratives raise profound questions about humanity's darker aspects, including the consequences of violence, the nature of heroism, and the moral complexities of survival.
In conclusion, the story of Dead Island 2 shares similarities with The Iliad in terms of complexity. The multifaceted characters, intricate relationships, and deep exploration of human nature in Dead Island 2 are reminiscent of the storytelling depth found in The Iliad. Both narratives offer rich and nuanced portrayals of complex characters, their relationships, and the complexities of human nature in times of crisis. Despite being a video game, Dead Island 2 delivers a compelling and thought-provoking narrative that is comparable to the complexity of the epic poem, The Iliad.
The fuck
499 words, 99 words over the wordcount. Trim this down Mr. Johnson. Trim it down right now. We'll have none of this fanciful wordplay in THIS class. Detention.
@@plume... I'm sure if he'd asked ChatGPT to limit the word count, it would have done a better job. But either way, it's a C- for both wordcount AND use of AI.
@@chrisgreen6259 Now I understand. I keep forgetting ChatGPT is a thing. I miss the old times...
class video man....i think this vid made up my mind ;)
im definitely playing as dani
She’s so good with my brass knuckles I can’t die just swinging at hordes
I will be getting this on day 1! I need a game to just have brainless fun and zombie killing. dying light is too serious for my taste.
I loved DL but it took itself very seriously didnt it
That’s how I feel about DL too like don’t get me wrong it was a good game but it was too serious for my taste I needed something more comical
I just picked this game up cant wait to get home😊
he said maybe
Playing it now it’s fun story us basically a zombie game story but without the human drama it’s simple LA is infested you’re trying to get out along with your group simply just a fun zombie game
I would play a VR mode of this
Looks like the zombie craze is coming back around for gaming media but unlike the last time I’m actually interested. I think I’m gonna pick this up since campy zombie shit is my favorite.
It's always better to have an mechanically outdated good game, then an overly experimental ambitious disaster, especially in today's market
I don't think the game worth the price though the game looks good I probably get it someday just not now
Looks OK, I'm just waiting for the new outlast
The most important thing di2 is fun to play and look great
all of your points id agree with but you leave out the fact that this is a AA 360 game with a SEVENNTY DOLLAR PRICE TAG
It looks fun, but not too special. I feel like it seems worth 30-40$.
I feel like many of us are craving games that are immersive and more complex than basic fighting, collecting, and beautiful versions of stuff we've seen a lot of already.
It looks fun, but I'm just craving games like AC Mirage, New Jedi game, or stuff like Starfield. Just finished Days Gone, and it was a masterpiece zombie game
Love this game. Well worth the wait.
No mans sky and dead island 2 delivered after a long time of disaster
This game you're looking at right here was in development since 2018. Yea the game was announced 9 years ago, but it was passed on from developer to developer until it got to dambuster. The game looks great
Evil west was amazing to!
Yup that's me one of the best games ever is dead island
This is a zombie game? I thought it was just an LA simulator
There's no shame in a game just being...okay. 🙂
I could see myself reflected with everything you said. I am fine with a simple focused experience without daily rewards and 1000 unlockables to grind. Give me satisfying weighty combat mechanics, gore and cheesy humor, where one action takes you to the next. 10 hours for a single player run is all I need if it doesn't feel empty and full of chores, unlike 90% of modern open world collecterthons
I think I read somewhere that it’s gonna be like 20 hours of story and like 5-9 hours of side content plus the two dlcs for the story in the future
I still say it wasn't worth 70 bucks and the DLC wasn't really good either very short
I can't find any level in which I'm interested in this
Imagine waking up every day for the last 10 years and realizing: "Where's my Dead Island 2" :D
You're delighted the game is fine!!!! Really!?
For me, this is a step down from Dying Light (the original). Not to say it might not be fun, but for how long? 60.00 long? I want another game in the vein of the original Dying Light. I'm not afraid to say it. More Dying light please!
Quite impressive for a 4-man team, especially given the history of development. Well done to them. I won't be picking this up, because it doesn't look like my cuppa tea. But people who like zombie slaying and pretty graphics will be sure to find something in this.
@@Rose4MLE Oh, whoops!
Honestly... dying light was boring as hell in my opinion. The first one I had a blast but the second was just boring as hell and the level design felt empty and lazy. All they focused on was rooftops and the ground level was so empty that it was literally immersion breaking.
I agree, the first dying light aged surprisingly well too. I don’t know if my expectations for the second was too high or what but damn was it a disappointment to me
Game is just genuinely not that good at the end of the day. Development hell or not 10 years for this? Nah idk man. 24 main story quest some of which are actually fast asf, and 33 side quests which are extremely repetitive tbh, finished 70% of the entire game in entirety and the main story and it’s just so mid man, and the lines and humor are often cringe and just not it. Insane reuse of the same weapons over and over even deep into the game, also I’m not joking when I say 70% of things are hidden behind a locked door or you have to power a section up every single time like I mean dozens of times man if your doing side quests. I mean tbh horrible ending just shot out horrible boss, you get no unique weapons from it. Left just sitting there like “okayyyyy uh” 3/10 or a 4/10 and that’s on its best day especially for this game being $75 after tax like nah cmon bro let’s be real here. Only positive is graphics in some areas are nice(not all the time I’ve had pop ins some errors on the Xbox one X) and props where props are due gore system and flesh system on the zombies is 10/10 only thing that pushed me through tbh.
Nahh.. this is a wait for a sale for me.
Same looks pretty mid to be honest. Certainly not worth $70
Kinda disappointed I'm thinking the same
its been nothing but mid games so far atleast its not a shitty remake
@Two-wheelsCollector93 for me it's 98$ and yeah now I'm a huge fan of there games not worth the price as is.
Clearly an interpretation that won’t appeal to everyone. Wait for sale I reckon
Dead island riptide was the real dead island 2.
It was much better than the kinda shitty first game… not that it was amazing or anything.
Decent fun, I’d call it. Not a bad time
Neither hold a candle to Dying Light.
Hey, they made a Dying Light 2, didn’t they? How was that?
I think I’d check that out before this
Riptide was more like an overpriced expansion than a real game
Its a trash game lol. People just dont wanna accept the fact their money got wasted 🤣 and now they have to live with it. Also don’t want to accept the fact they were hyped for years only to be disappointed. Its a bad game, end of.
Not only no but HELL NO.🤢
Dying lite
Was it worth a 9-year wait? Nope.. From a game that was in production for so long, even if it switched from studio to studio, this game isn’t worth it’s price. At some point this game just looks low-budget.
Dying light 2 is way better then this especially thier new updates coming out
I don't think it's worth 70 bucks
No vehicles? 1st person only? I'll stick with State of Decay 2 or Days Gone when I'm in the mood for a zombie game.
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You just broke. Talking about SOD. Just Hating cuz you playing that old shit.
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Epic store exclusive lol.... Guess they don't want my money.
the game could have been so much more. its dissapointing
Describe exactly how it's disappointing. Every game doesn't need to be a masterpiece.
What more do you want? Make it yourself then bud
what more do you guys want you have not even played it yet
No…it wasn’t
I'll try it when it actually releases in 2024 at a discount on Steam.