This is how Floor interprets the role of a frontwoman. Tuomas is the brain behind it all... but the boss on stage is Floor - she unites the band and the fans perfectly in her unique way.
Listen again. Floor does all the harsh vocals while Marko sings the 'clean' ones all the way. Check out her former band 'Revamp' to hear Floor going full on death growls in several songs of them. The song is about internet trolls and keyboard warriors spreading filth.
@@TheMindofBruce Before Tatiana of Jinjer there was Floor setting the standard that is still unsurpassed : Even with a fan made phone recording it is MIND BLOWING,just imagine if it was professionally recorded : well worth a reaction: ReVamp...21-02-2014...Effenaar Eindhoven( Misery No Crime) com/watch?v=PjvbzVAJ7cc NW on the Heavier side: the 1st song below has never been played Live, it's a response directed to their 1st singers husband/manager, so, yeah it's a bit angry :) Nightwish - Master Passion Greed (Special Video) com/watch?v=Bkib0dIziXk or Lyric version : com/watch?v=wS7NrPNjACI Nightwish - 10th Man Down - Live In Buenos Aires 2018 - Decades Tour com/watch?v=Px1YJ0EdNAI NIGHTWISH - Slaying The Dreamer - Live In Buenos Aires (OFFICIAL LIVE VIDEO com/watch?v=wA44tjaP5n0
How to tell off the internet trolls by Tuomas. LOL This is only your 2nd song later that Wacken 2013. Not sure if we mentioned it on Shudder, but you are seeing a different drummer in Kai Hahto. Original drummer , Jukka Nevalainen, stepped away from preforming in 2014 , due to health issues caused by severe insomnia, but he remains with the band in management. Jukka called his friend , Kai from Wintersun, to take over. Also, when Marko left in 2021, they chose Jukka Koskinen from Wintersun, to take over the bass. Everyone has already mentioned Floor is the one growling, this , and to a lesser extent, Ghost River at Wacken, is about all you get of that with Nightwish. Although the next album is supposed to be heavier, so we shall see if they do any more. Floor did explore more of that with her former band ,ReVamp. Would suggest "Disdain" or "The Trial of Monsters" , both live from Graspop 2010. To check out Wintersun, try "Time" or "Sons of Winter and Stars" from the live rehearsals at Sonic Pump Studios.
What a powerhouse of a song this is with all the trademark Nightwish transitions and multi layering, the second song after the show opened with a bang with "Shudder Before the Beautiful" that set a relentless tone for the the whole show. Floor can do it all. Phenomenal live performance, phenomenal band and thank you for a great reaction. Your face was a picture throughout. 🙏😊👍❤️
Hey Bruce your face was a picture, this is a fantastic song, Floor does a lot of the growls. Love your take on things and your upbeat nature, Thanks for your time and opinions😊🇬🇧
I think now it's tim for the NW-docu "Learn the setlist in 48 hours". The story about the great crisis in 2012 and the uprising when Floor joined the band.
This song was written by Tuomas about trolls on the Internet and the only song so far which allowed for Floor's growls in every chorus harmonising with Marko's cleans.
I love it when people come up with their own interpretations of lyrics before learning what the composer said about it - sometimes (like here) you get perfectly fitting ideas which are also different in everything but tone! I'm also glad you do the lyrics separately from the music, cos there's hardly anyone who can pay attention to both at the same time in one listen. Good job.
Like me, if you have never listened to anything from Floor before Nightwish and you have listened to many of Nightwish with Floor and her solo stuff, ReVamp - Disdain Live at Graspop (2010) will make your jaw drop. Your eyeballs might even pop out and hit your glasses' lens. LOL I didn't watch that one until after I went thru all the concerts from 2013 - 2018, Beste Zangers, and the cover songs of Floor. I was in disbelief for days. Will be waiting for that one whenever.
wow - never thought this as ones inner conversation, but it does work. I guess the song is about the poisonous comments people throw online. But as always with nightwish - "the song is about what ever it is about for you". And yes - that growl is actually Floor..
Ah yes, Bruce. So many people just cannot believe that it is Floor doing all the harsh growling throughout this song while Marko sings clean above her. The goddess has a bit of the demon within her vocals when she wants to let it out. Still, wonderful reaction and thank you for this. Nightwish Army Phoenix subscriber here for you. Loved it.
Yeah Marko NEVER growled here OR did guttural. That was ALL FLOOR!!!!! (Marko sang the highs, obviously can’t do both at the same time) Floor did ALL the low guttural death metal growls & the Siren in the Fog luring the sailors in to their Metal death!!!
Others have mentioned the growl is Floor. When we said Floor can sing like an angel and growl like a demon, we did mean in the same song. Sorry if that wasn't clear. And yes, she just gets more amazing. This was a love letter Tuomas wrote to internet trolls.
Yes, amazing how Floor can go from ethereal voice- to demon growling. Not much she can’t do . But Marko is just as talented. Which is why he won Findlands Masked Singer!. So much talent in this band
Anyone who isn't sure should note that Marko is quite clearly singing the 'cleans' and good though he is, he can't sing gutturals and cleans simultaneously. You can't hear a clean voice from Floor in the chorus because she is only singing the gutturals. There is a version of this from Mexico City where it is more obvious that she is singing harsh vocals, which has been part of her vocal skillset since the start of ReVamp.
It's quite simple if you look at Marko singing - watch his mouth & tell me where the growls are coming from. It is most obvious in the last repeat. And even more so in the Mexico City version
If you watch the Mexico City version it's more obvious that Floor is the one growling. "I see the parchment of your soul" - only Tuomas'... Note the that almost-shouted part is almost always mis-represented in closed captions - "yours is a dying love". I've seen all sorts of weird representations of that. The Hope Squad, of course, should not have empty hopes. Marco said this was his biggest concert. Wembley is an iconic venue. The filth, as pointed out by others, is the internet trolls hiding behind their "screen names" and indulging their "verbal vanity".
This one is all about telling those internet trolls to get a life. Their hate fill commentary is such a waste of time. If you are so bitter you will miss out on the beauty and joy life has to offer. FYI - Floor was doing the growls.😱🤯🤷♂
🤩👍💥💯🎼 I am no teacher on what to pick up of any of their tracks... Others has done it obviously. Neatly reacted to : "Yours is an Empty Hope" (Live) 🤘😎 🇫🇮 💙
Second song of Wembley concert. The Floor growls are even more obvious at the Mexicob City show. The lyrics are entirely anti-troll - not a guess - this is the composers statement.
Yeah nice reaction, Bruce, I was interested in your take on the lyrics. I will not comment on Floor's gutturals since everyone and their brother has already done it 😂 but I find your take on this very interesting. A lot of people say it's about Internet trolls, which fits the lyrics well too, however I have been unable to confirm this for myself. I think it's cool to be able to find one's own way to interpret it, I kind of remember Tuomas saying something of that sort, too. In case you are interested in something dealing with online hate in a more straightforward way, check out Lord of the Lost - Leave your hate in the comments. The video is interesting, too. Greetings from Germany
Ya it seems like people don’t read comments or just want to type that it wasn’t Marko for some reason lol. I like trying to find out meanings behind lyrics even if it’s not the intended meaning, music can mean so many things, it’s not always black and white. I’ll have to check out Lords of the Lost! Thanks!!
It's not Marko who.. [ insert 1000+ growl comments ]. This is the point where Floor's band ReVamp gets introduced (Disdain!). Not that many good quality YT videos of them which is such a shame. Floor was really free back then to write her own stuff. So much fun, even when it's recorded with a potato. Here's an example for personal viewing and it's not even a ReVamp song: "ReVamp - Bad Romance live @ Fenix, Sittard". Cheers!
@@TheMindofBruce If you want to see Floor go full growling beast mode, here's a fan recording of Misery's No Crime. On the album the growling on that song is by Mark Jansen (Epica), but live Floor switched between her own clean lines and doing his growls. Really mindblowing. ua-cam.com/video/SNPesLFTnUg/v-deo.html
Before you explain lyrics it would be helpful watching a video that close that you would recognize who was doing the gutturals. Second & third chorus you can so clearly hear Marko singing normally, including his high inflections. Then there is Floor dropping her her jaw, & head, mouth wide, growling her female heart out, LOL!
I was just vibing out listening to the tunes, I pay more attention to the lyrics as I am a lyric analysis channel. Plus 800 people already mentioned it was Floor lol.
Growling Marko 🤣(even Marko laughed in this song ), No, This was Floor all the way !!! She can sing from classical to belting and raspy vocals like screaming and death growls. For most people, typical association to growling vocals are done by males, But, to all that grow up in Europe, knows such heavy hitters like Angela Gossow (Ex Arch Enemy), Tatiana Shmayluk (Jinjer) etc.. This song is about Internet Trolls, basically big "F you" towards keyboard warriors !!! NWSU/FloorFan 🤘😎🤘
I love Tati and Angela from Arch Enemy. I saw Jinjer 2 months ago, Tati pointed and smiled at me, so my life is complete. 😹😹😹 I love Courtney from Spiritbox to, she had a heck of a scream and growl. Ya I missed this one lol, I listened it to a few time after the reaction and realized it was not Marko 😹😹😹🤘🤘🤘
Please don't start talking about "gods" . Gods are invented by people who want to have control over other people. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deities_by_classification
Floor!!! A force of nature!!! Thanks bro!!! Greettings from Argentina
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Floor growling is just heaven
This is how Floor interprets the role of a frontwoman.
Tuomas is the brain behind it all... but the boss on stage is Floor - she unites the band and the fans perfectly in her unique way.
First time I watch this video, it was blow mind seeing Floor growling like that.
That’s Floor growling!🎸🤘
Listen again. Floor does all the harsh vocals while Marko sings the 'clean' ones all the way. Check out her former band 'Revamp' to hear Floor going full on death growls in several songs of them. The song is about internet trolls and keyboard warriors spreading filth.
Ill check out revamp!
@@TheMindofBruce Before Tatiana of Jinjer there was Floor setting the standard that is still unsurpassed :
Even with a fan made phone recording it is MIND BLOWING,just imagine if it was
professionally recorded : well worth a reaction:
ReVamp...21-02-2014...Effenaar Eindhoven( Misery No Crime)
com/watch?v=PjvbzVAJ7cc
NW on the Heavier side: the 1st song below has never been played Live, it's a response directed to their 1st singers husband/manager, so, yeah it's a bit angry :)
Nightwish - Master Passion Greed (Special Video)
com/watch?v=Bkib0dIziXk
or Lyric version : com/watch?v=wS7NrPNjACI
Nightwish - 10th Man Down - Live In Buenos Aires 2018 - Decades Tour
com/watch?v=Px1YJ0EdNAI
NIGHTWISH - Slaying The Dreamer - Live In Buenos Aires (OFFICIAL LIVE VIDEO
com/watch?v=wA44tjaP5n0
You should begin with Disdain, live at Graspop
Tuomas wrote this song as a big FU to internet trolls . and nope Marco was singing while Floor was doing the growls
I love that. I get the trolls here sometimes 😹🤘🤘🤘
Our Valkery Queen gets her growl on...
How to tell off the internet trolls by Tuomas. LOL
This is only your 2nd song later that Wacken 2013. Not sure if we mentioned it on Shudder, but you are seeing a different drummer in Kai Hahto. Original drummer , Jukka Nevalainen, stepped away from preforming in 2014 , due to health issues caused by severe insomnia, but he remains with the band in management. Jukka called his friend , Kai from Wintersun, to take over. Also, when Marko left in 2021, they chose Jukka Koskinen from Wintersun, to take over the bass.
Everyone has already mentioned Floor is the one growling, this , and to a lesser extent, Ghost River at Wacken, is about all you get of that with Nightwish. Although the next album is supposed to be heavier, so we shall see if they do any more. Floor did explore more of that with her former band ,ReVamp. Would suggest "Disdain" or "The Trial of Monsters" , both live from Graspop 2010.
To check out Wintersun, try "Time" or "Sons of Winter and Stars" from the live rehearsals at Sonic Pump Studios.
Ya I have to check out Revamp, I’ve had wintersun on the list, got to get to that soon.
What a powerhouse of a song this is with all the trademark Nightwish transitions and multi layering, the second song after the show opened with a bang with "Shudder Before the Beautiful" that set a relentless tone for the the whole show. Floor can do it all. Phenomenal live performance, phenomenal band and thank you for a great reaction. Your face was a picture throughout. 🙏😊👍❤️
Haha my face gets crazy sometimes 😹😹🤘🤘
Hey Bruce your face was a picture, this is a fantastic song, Floor does a lot of the growls. Love your take on things and your upbeat nature, Thanks for your time and opinions😊🇬🇧
Thank you kindly! Always appreciate the comments from you! ❤️🤘
🤘Floor
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I think now it's tim for the NW-docu "Learn the setlist in 48 hours". The story about the great crisis in 2012 and the uprising when Floor joined the band.
I’ll have to check that out! Should I record it?
Absolutely!
Yup, Marko doesn't growl so in the few songs where you do hear that, it's Floor.
That’s wild, I love this side of Floor
@@TheMindofBruceThen it’s time to check out her previous band ReVamp where she growls more, start with “Disdain” Live at Grasspop 2010
Behold the magic of Nightwish.
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This song was written by Tuomas about trolls on the Internet and the only song so far which allowed for Floor's growls in every chorus harmonising with Marko's cleans.
I love it when people come up with their own interpretations of lyrics before learning what the composer said about it - sometimes (like here) you get perfectly fitting ideas which are also different in everything but tone! I'm also glad you do the lyrics separately from the music, cos there's hardly anyone who can pay attention to both at the same time in one listen. Good job.
Thank you! I used to do lyrics mid video, but felt like it was to much, I like this way better now, video then analysis.
Appreciate it! 🤘
Floor growling: "Disdain" by Revamp (Floor's 2nd band)... and many others: enjoy
🤘🤘 thx!
Love that song! Didn't at first, but now I do 8)
Alot of reactors miss that it is Floor doing the growls. She actually did alot of that before nightwish.
Ya, I sure missed it. It sounded so good.
Like me, if you have never listened to anything from Floor before Nightwish and you have listened to many of Nightwish with Floor and her solo stuff, ReVamp - Disdain Live at Graspop (2010) will make your jaw drop. Your eyeballs might even pop out and hit your glasses' lens. LOL I didn't watch that one until after I went thru all the concerts from 2013 - 2018, Beste Zangers, and the cover songs of Floor. I was in disbelief for days. Will be waiting for that one whenever.
Oh ya, that one is in the list now!
Floor, a growling siren…..it’s sorcery!
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@@TheMindofBruce it's Floor doing the growls my man !
wow - never thought this as ones inner conversation, but it does work. I guess the song is about the poisonous comments people throw online. But as always with nightwish - "the song is about what ever it is about for you".
And yes - that growl is actually Floor..
Ya it makes sense now that everyone is talking about the internet trolls, I get those on here sometimes 😹😹🤘🤘
Just to say the growly is all Floor Marko is the clean singing. :)
sounded like both of them! holy smokes it was just Floor!
yep💪💪🤘@@TheMindofBruce
Every time with this song. Will they realize... Sorry to say, but your on the "No" list. 😉 Good reaction though! 👍
@@everblacker 😹😹😹 I’m usually pretty good lol
Classical first listener misstake!
Gandalf is the high note hitting singer... Floor is the growling devil!
You are excused my friend. 💙💛💙🌻🌻🌻
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Ah yes, Bruce. So many people just cannot believe that it is Floor doing all the harsh growling throughout this song while Marko sings clean above her. The goddess has a bit of the demon within her vocals when she wants to let it out. Still, wonderful reaction and thank you for this. Nightwish Army Phoenix subscriber here for you. Loved it.
Ya I have to hear her ReVamp stuff. Gonna record it this week! Thanks for the sub! Welcome to the hope squad!
Wembley is the best version of this song .
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Yeah Marko NEVER growled here OR did guttural. That was ALL FLOOR!!!!! (Marko sang the highs, obviously can’t do both at the same time)
Floor did ALL the low guttural death metal growls & the Siren in the Fog luring the sailors in to their Metal death!!!
I must just have assumed it was marko lol, Floor blows my mind everytime
The Anti Troll song
Heavy stuff are my favorites.
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No, it’s not Marco who crowling, he sings pure line..
Its about internet haters and the power they gain when they are before a screen ( screen name verbal vanity) and Tuomas saying their is an empty hope
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Others have mentioned the growl is Floor. When we said Floor can sing like an angel and growl like a demon, we did mean in the same song. Sorry if that wasn't clear. And yes, she just gets more amazing. This was a love letter Tuomas wrote to internet trolls.
Yes, amazing how Floor can go from ethereal voice- to demon growling. Not much she can’t do . But Marko is just as talented. Which is why he won Findlands Masked Singer!. So much talent in this band
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Anyone who isn't sure should note that Marko is quite clearly singing the 'cleans' and good though he is, he can't sing gutturals and cleans simultaneously. You can't hear a clean voice from Floor in the chorus because she is only singing the gutturals. There is a version of this from Mexico City where it is more obvious that she is singing harsh vocals, which has been part of her vocal skillset since the start of ReVamp.
You of course realize that Marko was carrying the high Harmony and floor was on the gutterals?
It's not Marco growling, listen closer, he is singing clean, Floor is doing the growls.
Ya everyone mentioned that, I relistened and could hear the difference. I think I was just stoked at the growling lol
Don't worry buddy, you are not the first one, who fell into this trap. Greets from Germany! @@TheMindofBruce
It's quite simple if you look at Marko singing - watch his mouth & tell me where the growls are coming from. It is most obvious in the last repeat. And even more so in the Mexico City version
If you watch the Mexico City version it's more obvious that Floor is the one growling.
"I see the parchment of your soul" - only Tuomas'...
Note the that almost-shouted part is almost always mis-represented in closed captions - "yours is a dying love". I've seen all sorts of weird representations of that.
The Hope Squad, of course, should not have empty hopes.
Marco said this was his biggest concert. Wembley is an iconic venue.
The filth, as pointed out by others, is the internet trolls hiding behind their "screen names" and indulging their "verbal vanity".
I love finding out the actual meaning of the song, the internet is full of fricken keyboard trolls
Gandalf is singing clean - he isb't the one growling
Great reaction!!
Please react to Revamp- Disdain LIVE at Graspop!!
Will do!
This one is all about telling those internet trolls to get a life. Their hate fill commentary is such a waste of time. If you are so bitter you will miss out on the beauty and joy life has to offer. FYI - Floor was doing the growls.😱🤯🤷♂
Thanks!! ❤️🤘
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I am no teacher on what to pick up of any of their tracks... Others has done it obviously.
Neatly reacted to :
"Yours is an Empty Hope" (Live)
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I never get why reactors cant tell that its Floor growling , its pretty obvious .
probably so we can get the same comment over and over lol. 😂🤘🤘🤘
It's about internet trolls - hence the reference to bridges.
Don't you just love her Terminator Stomp across the stage...? 😜
This song is all about internethaters and trolls
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Edit. Ewry reactors should have yours AV quality & Sound Pressure 🔛🔝🔊 TY 👍
Thanks for that :) I try to make it the best for all of you!! 🤘🤘
@@TheMindofBruce And mic lewel is just where it should be 🤘😊👍💙🇫🇮
@@wanmac31 thanks !!! I try LOL
This is how you open a show!! Floor growling every time , Marko does not ... Greetings from nwAse Sweden
Floor is awesome, I thought I heard some Marko growls, guess not LOL
Open? This was not the opener though. Hahahahaha
Second song of Wembley concert. The Floor growls are even more obvious at the Mexicob City show. The lyrics are entirely anti-troll - not a guess - this is the composers statement.
Yeah nice reaction, Bruce, I was interested in your take on the lyrics. I will not comment on Floor's gutturals since everyone and their brother has already done it 😂 but I find your take on this very interesting. A lot of people say it's about Internet trolls, which fits the lyrics well too, however I have been unable to confirm this for myself. I think it's cool to be able to find one's own way to interpret it, I kind of remember Tuomas saying something of that sort, too.
In case you are interested in something dealing with online hate in a more straightforward way, check out Lord of the Lost - Leave your hate in the comments. The video is interesting, too. Greetings from Germany
Ya it seems like people don’t read comments or just want to type that it wasn’t Marko for some reason lol.
I like trying to find out meanings behind lyrics even if it’s not the intended meaning, music can mean so many things, it’s not always black and white.
I’ll have to check out Lords of the Lost! Thanks!!
Yes exactly, it's not black and white, with poetry like this there can be layers and layers, and picking them apart can be intense sometimes
@@nuclear.musicaddict it’s the best!!
It's not Marko who.. [ insert 1000+ growl comments ]. This is the point where Floor's band ReVamp gets introduced (Disdain!). Not that many good quality YT videos of them which is such a shame. Floor was really free back then to write her own stuff. So much fun, even when it's recorded with a potato. Here's an example for personal viewing and it's not even a ReVamp song: "ReVamp - Bad Romance live @ Fenix, Sittard". Cheers!
ya the its not marko comments are flooding in lol. I have to check out ReVamp, she keeps suprising me everytime I react to a new NW song
@@TheMindofBruce If you want to see Floor go full growling beast mode, here's a fan recording of Misery's No Crime. On the album the growling on that song is by Mark Jansen (Epica), but live Floor switched between her own clean lines and doing his growls. Really mindblowing. ua-cam.com/video/SNPesLFTnUg/v-deo.html
There are several excellent ReVamp live tracks on UA-cam none of which were recorded on a potato
@@TheMindofBruce bro, this is why I recommended Revamp Disdain live at Graspop 2010. Awesome reaction!!!!
@@martinklaus2203 def gonna check it out! Thx man! 🤘
Love Floor but dislike the song (about the musicality, nothing else). She is GREATE! Thank you for this reaction. 🤜🤛
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Before you explain lyrics it would be helpful watching a video that close that you would recognize who was doing the gutturals. Second & third chorus you can so clearly hear Marko singing normally, including his high inflections. Then there is Floor dropping her her jaw, & head, mouth wide, growling her female heart out, LOL!
I was just vibing out listening to the tunes, I pay more attention to the lyrics as I am a lyric analysis channel. Plus 800 people already mentioned it was Floor lol.
I bet bet myself a Poutine you would not catch Floor's growling you were oblivious most Miss the first few but catch the last one
To hear more growling check out Disdain by Revamp from Grasspop 2010 which is one of her earlier bands
Gandalf growling ?? nah try again
Growling Marko 🤣(even Marko laughed in this song ), No, This was Floor all the way !!! She can sing from classical to belting and raspy vocals like screaming and death growls.
For most people, typical association to growling vocals are done by males, But, to all that grow up in Europe,
knows such heavy hitters like Angela Gossow (Ex Arch Enemy), Tatiana Shmayluk (Jinjer) etc..
This song is about Internet Trolls, basically big "F you" towards keyboard warriors !!!
NWSU/FloorFan 🤘😎🤘
I love Tati and Angela from Arch Enemy. I saw Jinjer 2 months ago, Tati pointed and smiled at me, so my life is complete. 😹😹😹 I love Courtney from Spiritbox to, she had a heck of a scream and growl. Ya I missed this one lol, I listened it to a few time after the reaction and realized it was not Marko 😹😹😹🤘🤘🤘
@@TheMindofBruce And for BONUS, this song was used in "Simpsons" as well S34E08!!!!
@@TimoArula seriously? I’m gonna have to check that out
Please don't start talking about "gods" .
Gods are invented by people who want to have control over other people.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deities_by_classification