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But what was he disappointed about? Could it be he expected Jamie to more sleazy or deceitful? Maybe it was a backhanded compliment like "damn, you seem like an alright bloke, unlike your reputation suggests" Is this wishful thinking?
Lyanna Mormont had one of the best foreshadow introductions in the whole show., way back in season 5 episode 2, from Stannis the mannis himself while he was talking to Jon: "Do you know this wretched girl, Lyanna Mormont?" "The lord commander's niece." "Lady of Bear Island, and a child of 10. I asked her to commit her house to my cause. That's her response." "Bear Island knows no king but the king in the north, whose name is Stark." The smile on Jon's face when he read her message was everything.
@@fadithedog He thought Ian mcshane was blackfish 1st off and he said Cersei is completely broken....there's 2 Ls right there this episode!! Pudgey is just on point way more
I forgot how good this episode is! Unfortunately, Robb left a bad taste in a lot of northerners mouths. He forgot that the men fighting for him were not only sacrificing their lives, but they had families as well. He only thought about himself when he married Talisa and not the 1000’s of men & families depending on him. Loved Lady O telling Cersei like it is & Lyanna Mormont is a badass.
In the books, Robb marries the daughter of low level vassal of Tywin. He does it to uphold his honor because he had sex with her. Both in the show and in the book, Robb's honor would have been better served holding his nose and marrying into the Freys. Walder Frey made the deal with Tywin because as shifty as Tywin was ; he was family to the Freys. Tywin's memory for an insult was as long as Walders. Jon and Sansa are trying to raise an army from exhausted people and facing backlash due to things neither of them really had control over.
I know she's Ellie to you coz you guys watched Last of Us first but to most of the world, she will always be Lady Lyanna Mormont.. One of the most badass characters in Got ❤
@@luigicavallo270 his armor is like that because they call him the black fish, not the other way around. He quarreled over his older brother and refused to get married, so Hoster called him the black sheep of the family, but since their sigil is a fish, Brynden said he's not a black sheep but a black fish
22:21 Fun fact. Brynden Blackfish Tully is an all-time personal hero of Jaime that he has always wanted to meet. The fact that Jaime gets to meet him and gets cut down to his face by his personal hero is just delicious! I wish the show had kept the Riverlands storyline from the books, though, because what they do with The Hound, Jaime, Brienne, and the Blackfish, is far more compelling.
3:35 When Littlefinger said "The time has come to join the fray" to Robin Arryn, he meant "the fray" as in "the fight", not Walder Frey. Great reaction guys. Cheers.
I play a drinking game with Spartan & Pudgey. Whenever Spartan says 'dude' I drink. Whenever Pudgey rolls her eyes at Spartan, I drink. 3 minutes into this reaction and I am already smashed ;)
Bella Ramsay & Pedro Pascal became fan favourites in the Game of Thrones fandom. These were their breakout roles that ultimately led to them being cast in The Last of Us.
@@jeronomojoe What did you expect her to be? Why do you expect the show to find a clone of an animated figure? You're in the minority of people who dislike Bella Ramsey.
@@jeronomojoeexcept she is like Ellie, she perfectly captures Ellie’s personality and complexity. And it’s clear that the creators of the games also sees her as Ellie, they’re the ones who chose her.
19:08 I'm shocked that no one has picked up on the stupidity of this exchange. Jon, Sansa, & Davos were trying to convince Lady Mormont to help save Rickon, yet none of them fucking mentioned Rickon. Lady Mormont famously sent a raven in S05 and reiterated in this meeting that: *_"Bear Island knows no king but the king in the north, whose name is Stark."_* She won't trust Jon because he's a bastard, and she won't trust Sansa because she was married to 2 different enemies of House Stark. That's fine. But Rickon Stark is a Stark. He is the heir to Winterfell, he is alive, and he's a prisoner. Yet he is not mentioned to Lady Mormont who is reluctant to help because her motto is "we serve the Starks". The answer is right there, but no one gives it. For Jon & Sansa, Rickon is the primary motivator to go to war with the Boltons, yet he is not mentioned once to convince Lyanna Mormont, when she made it crystal clear that it's the only argument that would sway her. But what sways her instead? The threat, of the White Walkers. Magical creatures she has never seen or believed in.
@@JacobMoitt Indeed. It's also extremely baffling that none of the Northern Lord have any question for Jon in regard to why he is able to leave the NW. Hell, Sansa never even asked him about how he came back from the dead. We never have that conversation. I also am not convince that anyone would believe Jon if he told them the truth.
Rickon could have been mentioned in the raven's letter that set up this meeting. Rickon is not enough of a character to use in this scene. The audience also has to be moved by the plea. Imagining Rickon as King , is not it.
Well, no. Rickon is a truly bad reason to rally a fight around for because he is a hostage and in order to legitimize his claim, Ramsey will sooner or later be forced to kill him. Had the fight been for Rickon, his death at the beginning of the Battle of the Bastards ends the whole alliance right there as he was the last Stark. That would have been a far worse plan. Instead, Jon, Sansa and Davos are trying to convince Lady Mormont that the battle is between the living and the dead and as such, individual house squabbles must be put on the back burner. Davos states this directly and clearly.
The best thing about Lyanna Mormont's introduction scene is that they didn't made her just a bossy little girl who can speak well, she actually listens to the counselors that are by her side before making decisions, and shuts them when deems necessary. It sells really well the dynamic between the people in Bear Island and why they trust her to be their leader.
In first season Ned was beheaded (main character), khal Drogo is killed by scratch and king Robert was killed by boar, and then there is Arya in season 6 stabed many times jump in water, walk trough city like that and then jump like ninja from high with no problem. It' one big piece of shit.
Yeah, this was beyond stupid. Plus Arya is not a dumb person. She knows how the Faceless Men operate, knows they will come after her, and she just casually walks around Braavos, free of any worries and not suspicious of people at all… excuse me no
You're getting a second chance there will not be a third. You know who the Faceless men are. You walk around like it's summer day with not a care in the world. Get Stabbed three times in a stomach, swimming sewer water and you're o k plot Armor very bad Writing
Deadwood was a great show, too bad it got cancelled. I couldn't bring myself to watch the movie though, they all aged so much, it just didn't feel the same.
I just clicked the moment I saw the notification and I am leaving this comment before I watched any of it. I have been dying for you to meet Lyanna Mormont! One of my most favourite characters ever!
30:58 Excellent question Pudgey. Excellent question. 🙃We all wondered the same thing. How many times have we seen characters die for less in previous seasons?
@@TheNoely31 Yes, she is very good. She remembers details, unlike Spartan who doesn't think that details matter. That's why he's wrong or surprised most of the time.
as a GOT and LOU fan, Lyanna >>>> Elle. the impact of her character's first appearance was immense. you had to be there to get a full grasp of how Lyanna broke the internet on that episode. fans were pledging their loyalty and ascended her to the Iron Throne 😂
I love it when Olenna says "I wonder if you are the worst person I've ever met" to Cersei. Olenna is the only one who can say such a thing to Cersei, and get away with it...
I've been waiting since the Hound's fall for this episode. He's my favorite character to watch in this show. He's known as a brute, but I find him to be one of the smarter characters, as he always thinks things through to the endgame before making a decision. He constantly predicts the outcome of events before they even begin.
Yeah, is is also a cynic born of realism. He has seen shit and done shit, and he knows that the world is a horrible place. So he always expects the worst, and sadly, he is mostly right.
I enjoy every time a Northerner gets called a Southerner. Puts the world in perspective. It's easy to overlook the added weight carried with Bear Island as an ally when gathering more. That's the real gain.
Lord Glover is a perfect example of needing to listen to the whole story, Before you judge somebody and the decisions that they make... He's perfectly justified and his anger towards the starks.
It's explained a lot more in the book, but the Sparrows emerged among the refugees created by the War of the Five Kings, especially the rampant burning and pillaging that was employed by Tywin's forces in the Riverlands. They became so powerful because they gained the support of the common people and represented their grievances against the noble houses whose petty wars and squabbling had killed thousands of innocent people and generally made their lives miserable.
5 seasons of dynamic political intrigue and ruthless manipulation.... And 2.9 seasons of plot armor, and 2full seasons of literal armor and staring out windows..menacingly..
But that is exactly what happened, they broke her last season, she lost power when Joffrey died, she lost even more power when Tywin died (she even failed to win Kevan's support), she lost more power Marcella died (can' use her for political marriage etc.), she lost Tommen to the High Sparow... but even more devastatingly, the crown owes the Iron Bank millions and for the first time in Lannister history they don't have their gold bro, the mines have dried up and that was back when Tywin was still alive! and what's that famous Lannister saying again? In the books, when the Lannisters assume power and the War of the Five Kings begins it is the Iron Bank that loans the money for the Lannisters to wage war. When Tywin and Joff kick the bucket, Cersei declared the Lannister’s debt null and void which pisses off the Bank to no avail (it turns out that while the Lannister’s unofficial motto is “a Lannister always pays his debts” the Bank’s motto is “The Iron Bank always gets its due”). In response the Bank agrees to back the claim of Stannis Baratheon to the Iron Throne and grant him a considerable loan.
Bear Island has 400 Men. She gave Jon 62 just in case they lose. Bear Island wanted to keep what they have left to defend the island. They once had 4000 most of them were killed during Robb’s War, and the red wedding.
Lyanna: every man in Bear Island fights with the strength of 10 mainlanders. Spartan: 62 is nothing Spartan should know of all people the wonder of few hardboiled warriors can do fighting against an army with numbers way more than 10x what King Leonidas have.
i remember the conversations people had when the episode first aired, everyone was convinced that arya let herself get stabbed on purpose and used a blood pouch from her actor friend to fake her death or she was really jaquen in disguise or something. nope. she's just unkillable because she's a main character and the audience isnt supposed to question it or think too hard about it.
Meh, it's a show where we've already seen Jon Snow come back from the dead, not to mention unstoppable smoke baby assassins, unburnable Dany and fire breathing dragons. We don't get the details of how Arya survives but the GOT world does possess the magic to make it happen. Still, I would have preferred a little more set up for this.
Correct. My question then and now is who survives being repeatedly stabbed in the stomach? To be sure, Maisie Williams did a phenomenal job of selling that, but in reality, she would not have gotten far, even if she had managed to get out of the water. The shock alone would have prevented her from walking around with injuries like that, not to mention the blood loss.
If Spartan had made the trip to Bear Island and reacted to Lady Mormont as he did here (with all the grace of an entitled Lannister) rather than with the quiet acceptance of his hero crush Jon - he'd be leaving with zero. 🤣
Yeah he's a bit too dominant sounds like in his goofy comments about Pidgey It was Sad kind of how he said He would sacrifice Pidgey to get Jon back. I know he wouldn't really but that's still a bit hurtful.
@@bbwng54 very true I know it's not malicious and it's even Funny a tiny bit. I mean it could easily bring an awkward smile to my face but I thought it probably shouldn't have been said. I do love freedom of speech so I'm fine with it. Lol I'm looking forward to episode Nine and ten reaction when they get edited and put on UA-cam
Was a welcome shock when we saw The Hound back. Ian McShane a powerhouse actor, Deadwood, John Wick etc. Always liked the group he ends up joining. From this show we all knew Mormont could play Ellie. Blackfish was awesome.
Strange how all the people complaining about how Arya survived her injuries seem to be just fine with The Hound surviving his. Unlike Arya, who is in a city where there actually are people around who could help, The Hound is a all alone in the wilderness when Arya leaves him to die.
When I saw McShane I knew it would be a short engagement - almost a cameo, the way he is used. Makes sense when reintroducing a beloved character. They needed an actor capable of standing toe to toe right from the start.
@@gunkulator1 if the Waif missed any internal organs, I'd say Arya surviving is reasonable if she gets help quickly. Personally, I have a bigger issue with her running and fighting in the next episode when she was recently stabbed and stitched up.
I love it when Pudgey said is that Bran the builder? I remember watching this episode when it came out thinking it was a flashback scene and thought the same thing
If you remember.If you remember the wedding where Lord Edmure got married?.... The black fish is his Uncle. And he was talking to catlyn, saying that his nephew is an idiot or something like that. And then the next thing he said was "but I love him.".... He does care about him, but that doesn't mean that he's not willing to sacrifice him To keep his Ancestral home....
@@Erik-pz3sh im not sure how that is unrealistic to you, there are tons of real life example of surviving due to will to live. There is a dude who survived a fall from 47th floor or a dude who got shot in the head. Stab wounds can be survivable. Just last month a person was stabbed 19 times left for dead for 24 hours and managed to bring herself to a hospital
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The mormonts don't have so many men because they just have that island and also living in the north and especially at the island isn't easy AND the north lost a lot of warriors in "Robbs war". The north is veeery big and there are maaaany houses, so it's normally no problem that there are a lot of tiny houses. The big houses with more than thousand men are: house stark, house bolton, house umber, house glover, house karstark and the house with the merman (i forgot the name, I think house manderly?). House bolton is the strongest after house stark and ramsay is allied with house umber and house karstark. Edit: house mormont is a bit like house reet (brans 2 friends, the siblings, are from house reed), very loyal but not so strong, but house reed should be more important because of their fortress and the stratecig location
@@NiKiMa023 I had my last English lesson 2 years before I finished school and I finished school some years ago and I normally don't need English in my life, so yeah, my english isn't the best, especially when we talk about fantasy creatures and the correct english names. Sometimes I still have to read english articles or books for the university, but there are no mermaids or mermen, its always about philosophy, society, systems, politics and stuff like that. And I think the house is written Reet in german. But thanks, I'm going to correct it
@@FrankeNamensKarim you remembered more than me listing the houses, their men and the Manderly sigil! Good job with that. I wasn’t trying to be annoying or pedantic with the ‘corrections’. Well maybe with the merMan 🤣. I am not fluent enough in any other language, and find that I often don’t have the mastery of English I think I do 🤣 Kudos for your ability to express yourself perfectly well, in an additional language
@@NiKiMa023 thanks^^ and yeah, I already thought you didn't write it with the intention to be annoying or something like that, don't worry😅 and again thanks, my English is definitely better than my arab and spanish, but my german and french are still better, I never liked to learn English and so I decided in the tenth class to cancel english and to continue French for my last 2 years because I was always better in french, but I watch English reactions like that and I began to read some mangas in English too, I think that's really helpful, even when I'm still not very confident in expressing and explaining what I think in English. But yeah, thanks
21:45 Remember guys, the Mormont's actually stayed all the way to the Red Wedding, unlike other houses they need time to rebuild their armies and fighting men, but mark her words as you have seen already they fight fiercely. The Shield Jon picks up against Ramsey is a Mormont shield which means they made it to Winterfell with Jon even though they only had 62 men.
Blackfish would have been a great asset to Jon's future army. One of those old, grumpy commanders that would hold a position no matter the odds, and never be disloyal.
@@xaviermm5506 It was not messy, the payoff was satisfying. The whole point is that Arya is not an assassin, she does not want to kill anyone, only those who wronged her.
⚠️⚠️SPOILER WARNING⚠️⚠️ @@ianvera4299 I understand that but she does become a coldblooded assassin anyway, like when she killed Walder Fray or Littlefinger. And it was messy. First, all of her scenes from the 5th season were kinda boring. All she did was walk around cleaning bodies and not doing much. Things get a little more interesting when Jaqen assigned her to become a girl who sells sea food to spy on an old man to then kill Meryn Trant. That was fun, then she becomes blind for some strange reason, no explanation AT ALL. Then in season 6, they spent a LOT OF screen time on the comedy show, once was ok but there were like 3 whole pointless scenes of cringy comedy. And finally, all of that so the payoff was a classic chase through the street and to then Arya killing the Waif off-screen and Jaqen just letting her go even though she killed his assistant, literally disobeyed all of their orders and stole a few faces is so anticlimactic. (Not to mention the dumbest plot armour in the whole series 🙄 Arya getting stabbed and surviving). They made a cool concept boring. Arya's interaction with the Waif and with Jaqen lacked everything from other interactions, like Arya and the Hound or Arya and Tywin. The only satisfying payoff from all of her faceless training was her killing Walder Fray, after that she never uses the faces ever again. FeelsBadMan, I loved Arya before season 5.
@@xaviermm5506 No she does not. Arya is not getting paid to kill people on her list, and that's the point. Assassins are hired killers, Arya is just obsessed with revenge that it blinds her judgment and is a cautionary tale. Walder Frey and LF both were responsible for her family members dying. And it was not messy at all. Season 5 was not boring imo, Arya learned the difference between killing people who deserve it rather than serving the many faced gods, she learned the game of faces, and she learned the consequences of using the faces of others. She literally kills MerynTrant in season 5 , which already contradicts your whole argument since that was a greatly written scene. What comedy show? You mean the play that reminded Arya of her life back in Westeros, of the many people that wronged her, and that she doesn't want to be a faceless man? That is not pointless, it's called character development. You wanna talk about dumbest plot armor, how about Tyrion surviving the battle of blackwater without any combat training being saved by an inexperienced squire or that Sam killed a WW by accident? They made a cool concept amazing. Maybe because Arya doesn't need in-depth interactions with the Waif( and Twyin and Arya is a show with only detail that was better than the books). First you say there's any payoff then you say there is payoff with Arya killing Walder, stop changing the golf post to fit your weak narrative. Changing one's face is not the only skill Arya learned, she also relied on her other senses while being blind to navigate in darkness which helped her in the battle of WF where she killed the NK. I loved Arya in all 8 seasons.
Even if Gendry were not still rowing, he would not be considered a potential heir because he is not "legitimate" (as the term was used). His last name, I think, would be "Stone" or something like that. In the rules of this world (and pretty much all monarchies historically), children born out of wedlock were not considered heirs to their fathers' thrones or titles. Now, the fathers could legitimate them (as Roose did to Ramsey) or could otherwise create a new title for them (this was common in Britain throughout history). But no royal son or daughter born outside the marriage would inherit the throne.
The actor who played Brother Ray, the leader of the group the Hound is with at the beginning of the episode, is Ian McShane. My favorite role of his is as Mr. Wednesday (Odin) in the show American Gods. He also appears in several John Wick movies, Deadwood: The Movie, Hellboy, The Golden Compass, and many more.
I doubt a man in Bravos magically knows a man is alive thousand of miles and a continent away. He struck Arya because he knows she is lying about hating The Hound, or finished him off.
Robb definetely failed the North, and his men. He chose love over duty, and married Talisa. This is what led to Walder Frey betraying him, and the death of all Stark Loyalists. Thousands died because of Robb’s foolish decision. It’s understandable that some are upset
I’m not quite sure what image it is you guys have of Theon before Reek. It feels like you built up this amazing badass character in your head that never existed.
Omg I know right. When Yara told Theon they were going to see the dragon queen, Spartan was excited about Theon and Danny, I was literally so confused, what does he think Theon is going to do? Sometimes he overlooks female characters and does not see the important and potential roles they might play in Game of thrones. Danny is more likely to listen to and relate to Yara who is a woman trying to take her place in a man’a world, compared to Theon who is a man that overestimated his abilities and got massively humbled.
Given that Arya fell with an open stomach wound into a canal with dirty water, she should have died no matter what. Even todays doctors would struggle to heal that kind of wound. The toxins and infections that would got into her body would have killed her for sure.
@@geetee4459 the non fantastical elements still need to seem plausible to the viewer to maintain coherency. It'd be like if you replaced a main character with kermit the frog. "But muh dragons, why can't you accept kermit in your fantasy world?" Smooth brain take
@@geetee4459 I guess that the deaths from childbirth, starvation, disease, and in case of Drogo, infection, must be quite immersion breaking for you as a fantasy show watcher.
@@permets2apollox453 Anyway I will just eat some lambas bread, take a ride in the TARDIS and then call Aslan. Lucy could easily save Arya by dabbing a bit of her potion on that horrible stomach wound.
The scene with the Hound at the start was so bad. I know they had to have some exposition to fill in the blanks, but the guy literally just walked over and told the Hound a story he already knew because he was part of it.
The reason the 3 eyed raven was in a tree was because he got lost in his visions and stayed in them for so long that the tree grew around him. That is why he warned Bran about doing the same thing
The way Natalie Dormer conveys her feelings with just her facial expressions shows how great of an actress she really is. Also, Theon really has one of the best character arcs in the entire show from start to finish. Alfie Allen deserved an Emmy for his role.
The hound was one of my fav characters with Tyrion and Varys.. he is not really evil, just had a horrible childhood and life and indifferent because he doesn't feel like he has anything to live for, and when he left kings landing he started to care for Arya, and in this episode he for the first time he felt like might belong anywhere and then this happened, his life is so tragic 😥 Arya was being a bit cocky, she should have been expecting the faceless to be after her and should have been more stealthy about her doings, but she is still young even though she went through so much more than anyone else at her age
Well, Robb also broke an oath and he should have focus but he didn't. That's why his men got mad, that's why lord karstark couldn't wait and wait and wait after losing his sons and after Jaime went away with the help of catelyn. Robb killed lord karstark and ignored he's one of the most powerful lords of the north, he ignored he needs that power after losing lord frey who also is one of the most powerful lords of the riverlands. There are no words to describe how hard robb screwed up
Rob made house Frey openly rebel against crown in exchange for a position of a queen if they win. Their entire house could be destroyed as punishment for supporting himin this rebellion and he refused to pay up? He deserved much, much worse. Hell, even scumbag like Tywin deliver what was owed to allies.
It's funny how pudgey dislikes the talk about robb and his wife😂 I mean he isn't wrong, robb really got distracted. Yes, it was romantic and love and and and, but he should have marry the frey girl. House Karstark, house Bolton and house Frey wouldn't have betray him and he could have win the war. Robb was nice and a good character, but yeah... He gave a sh*t about his duty, and the books it's more understandable that he doesn't marry the frey girl, the book version is a bit more like ned
@@majhis7126 and what did I say? I don't want to talk too much about the difference because there are still people who haven't read the books but want to do it, that's why my comment is so vague
I think it has something to do with the fact that Bran is unable to walk. The old man had to surrender his physical form to become the Three-Eyed Raven, which he accomplished by bonding to the tree, but Bran doesn't need to do that because he is already paralysed. I could be wrong though.
Its pretty simple. He warns bran about not staying in visions for too long and make the same mistake he did. Since Brynden (Bloodraven) Spent too much time in the vision, the tree grew around him and He got stuck there. so he was warning bran to not stay for too long.
I couldn't tell you how happy I was when The Hound turned around and I saw that beautiful face again. One of the many reasons why I love this season so much.
13:03 I love show Tormund, but book Tormund has more depth, so he has my heart. Just re-read one of the Jon chapters where he talks about his sons and it's just so moving.
@@luigicavallo270 What do you mean by that? Can you elaborate? In the books, we see Tormund be vulnerable, and talk about his pain. He cries. I don't remember ever seeing Bobby B like that.
@@Al-ji4gd yes because she was just a very little girl. They didn’t give her a big dragon or 3. Didn’t giver her magic like red woman, special abilities like face changing etc etc.
Pudgey, I love your eye rolls. I anticipate them coming now. Just have to say... This Lyanna Mormont Character is so BOSS! This is the brief appearance here in this ep that made the young actors career take off. She was so perfectly cast. The Blackfish and Glover scenes were so good! You really get the weight behind the actors words. I know you were so happy the Hound was back, I was so happy when I saw Ian McShane was cast as Meribald. Then it got the abbreviated treatment in the show. *Side note* - I hope you watch Deadwood at some point. I saw your poll for what to watch next... I hope you try some classics that are not as popular with reactors. PLEASE break from the status quo. I appreciate your reactions so much and I would love to see your reviews and analysis of Deadwood, Black Sails, The Wire, S1 of True Detective even Boardwalk Empire. If you are going to do a popular one- Succession is the one. I digress... That Marjorie scene was great. I mean, it almost gave Spartan the feels. I was very annoyed with how the scene with Arya played out. I agree- it wasn't executed so well. In any case her character has been THROUGH it - psychologically and physically. This is definitely deeply imprinting in her and will make her a formidable foe - if she makes it out of Bravos. Danny is fully set now with all of the people she's got on her side. She will be strong on sea and land- it seems. Jon as king in the north would be great, Spartan, I agree. Will we see that dream? We shall see.
Aw, now, be fair. Bear Island is just a little island. It's not huge and spread out like the Stark lands, so they don't have a lot of people to become warriors. Also, a lot of them got killed by Robb's stupidity.
What did Robb do? Listened to his cock instead of his ethics. When you make a promise, you should abide by your promise. That promise doesn't just go away because you met a pretty girl. However, Robb didn't care about keeping his promises. His father would have been ashamed of him. (Mind you, his father also handled things stupidly, just in a more honorable way.)
I was so eager for this episode finally get to see your surprised faces seeing the hound alive it's a gem of an episode for me cause I liked the hounds character very intriguing and it's a treat to see him again after so long 😁
Jaqan had a special affection for Arya. She saved him when they first met and she outsmarted him by threatening to make him kill himself to keep his vow. I think he saw great potential in her and was grooming her, perhaps to take his place one day. And I think that’s why the other girl, The Waif, hated her. But Arya was proudly Stark and had her own mission, revenge. The Waif made Arya’s list, even though she didn’t know her name.
8:14 aye this is the type of fantasy world which excites me the most everything happens for a reason and i need to know why?. It's so much fascinating the lore ,the possibilities ,the hunt it's my kind of drug
"Maybe he'll kill the mountain after all!" Many fans had theorized about this for a long time, such that the theory was called "CleganeBowl." CleganeBowl was coming, that was the hope! Those hopes faded a little when Arya left him for dead (though there were some hints in the book that he might be alive), but his reappearance with this episode re-ignited hopes in CleganeBowl once more!
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Blackfish is one of the Jamie's childhood heroes. So he certainly felt bad when Blackfish said "I am dissapointed".
Mmm! Apparently They kind of forget about the blackfish. I mean d&d
@@Noone91875 they kinda forgot everything.
But what was he disappointed about? Could it be he expected Jamie to more sleazy or deceitful? Maybe it was a backhanded compliment like "damn, you seem like an alright bloke, unlike your reputation suggests"
Is this wishful thinking?
@@VahisMX GRRM kinda forgot to finish.
@@Noone91875 How did they forget Blackfish? He literally showed up.
Lyanna Mormont had one of the best foreshadow introductions in the whole show., way back in season 5 episode 2, from Stannis the mannis himself while he was talking to Jon:
"Do you know this wretched girl, Lyanna Mormont?"
"The lord commander's niece."
"Lady of Bear Island, and a child of 10. I asked her to commit her house to my cause. That's her response."
"Bear Island knows no king but the king in the north, whose name is Stark."
The smile on Jon's face when he read her message was everything.
If she was actually a good character that might be one of the best.
Fun Fact: This show was Bella Ramsey (who portrays Lyanna) first ever acting role.
She immediately knocked it out of the park. Very talented 👏🏻
The showrunners did a great job hiring Bella for Lyanna
It's crazy for them to go "that's Ellie!" instead of "that's Lyanna!" hahahaha it's cute
That’s why it feels so bad? Makes sense.
Too bad she quickly became another woke Hollywood idiot. Great actor, terrible influence
25:00 Spartan's outrage "it's disgusting!" over Robb banging Talisa, 3 seasons after the fact is absolutely hilarious.
Lmao for real tho Spartan is always taking Ls every episode!!
@@scardin3520 Ls? The man is spitting straight fax 📠
@@fadithedog He thought Ian mcshane was blackfish 1st off and he said Cersei is completely broken....there's 2 Ls right there this episode!! Pudgey is just on point way more
yeah he’s never been the sharpest tool in the shed lol
well he is a bit dim.
I forgot how good this episode is! Unfortunately, Robb left a bad taste in a lot of northerners mouths. He forgot that the men fighting for him were not only sacrificing their lives, but they had families as well. He only thought about himself when he married Talisa and not the 1000’s of men & families depending on him. Loved Lady O telling Cersei like it is & Lyanna Mormont is a badass.
It could've been better if that Arya scene didn't happen 😢
Yeah, that Arya scenne will live forever in infamy.
@@xaviermm5506 It was already better, that Arya scene did do anything to dampen it.
In the books, Robb marries the daughter of low level vassal of Tywin. He does it to uphold his honor because he had sex with her. Both in the show and in the book, Robb's honor would have been better served holding his nose and marrying into the Freys. Walder Frey made the deal with Tywin because as shifty as Tywin was ; he was family to the Freys. Tywin's memory for an insult was as long as Walders. Jon and Sansa are trying to raise an army from exhausted people and facing backlash due to things neither of them really had control over.
Robb definitely left a bad taste in Talisa's mouth 👀
I know she's Ellie to you coz you guys watched Last of Us first but to most of the world, she will always be Lady Lyanna Mormont.. One of the most badass characters in Got ❤
When GoT fans watch TLOU:
"that's Lyanna fookin' Mormont"
Oh dang, I didn’t realize until this comment that they are the same actress. And it is obvious in hindsight, haha.
@@soulscyther666 Exactly 😂
@@TWteedoubleu it's definitely a testament to her acting skills that she's so unrecognisable
That's Lady of Bear Island for you,, peasants.
Baddest warrior in the seven kingdoms.
Natalie Dormer is such a great actress. And I'm not ashamed to admit has been my celebrity crush since The Tudors.
Same. She was beautiful and amazing as Anne Boleyn.
She is indeed amazing! She portrayed Margaery absolutely beautifully
@@kellifranklin9872 definitely my favorite portrayal of Anne I've seen
She has such unique and stunning features
I heard that Margaery is supposed to be loosely based on Anne Boleyn. No wonder she played both roles so well.
I can't stop admiring Blackfish armor, it's so beautiful.
First time I saw his armor, I said to meself: "Oooh, that's why they call him the Black Fish!'
Good ole laminar scale armor.
@@luigicavallo270 his armor is like that because they call him the black fish, not the other way around. He quarreled over his older brother and refused to get married, so Hoster called him the black sheep of the family, but since their sigil is a fish, Brynden said he's not a black sheep but a black fish
22:21 Fun fact. Brynden Blackfish Tully is an all-time personal hero of Jaime that he has always wanted to meet. The fact that Jaime gets to meet him and gets cut down to his face by his personal hero is just delicious! I wish the show had kept the Riverlands storyline from the books, though, because what they do with The Hound, Jaime, Brienne, and the Blackfish, is far more compelling.
The whole time after the red wedding I was waiting for lady stoneheart too.
Wholeheartedly AGREED!
Wholeheartedly AGREED!!
The introduction to one of the most badass characters in GoT: Lady Lyanna Mormont
The Queen!
Pfft, sure.
The Hound is back baby!!
The chickens are running for cover!!
3:35 When Littlefinger said "The time has come to join the fray" to Robin Arryn, he meant "the fray" as in "the fight", not Walder Frey. Great reaction guys. Cheers.
Everyone got immediately triggered hearing something that sounds like “Frey” 😂
I knurrr.
the writers should have changed that line.
@@gabagool_and_psychiatry4856 it's the first time I see someone confused by that common expression.
@@gabagool_and_psychiatry4856 It was intentional. You should always question everything LF says
I play a drinking game with Spartan & Pudgey. Whenever Spartan says 'dude' I drink. Whenever Pudgey rolls her eyes at Spartan, I drink. 3 minutes into this reaction and I am already smashed ;)
Are you still alive, or have you succumbed to alcohol poisoning?
If you drank every time Spartan said something stupid or completely wrong, you would have liver failure after one episode.
Drink a whole if he says “Holy Shit, Duuude!”
How about "far out"? That one will get us drunk too 😂
Mine is to have a drink each time one of them says "I knew that would happen" without it being mentioned previously 😄
Bella Ramsay & Pedro Pascal became fan favourites in the Game of Thrones fandom. These were their breakout roles that ultimately led to them being cast in The Last of Us.
I hated her in TLOU she is nothing like ellie.
@@jeronomojoe What did you expect her to be? Why do you expect the show to find a clone of an animated figure? You're in the minority of people who dislike Bella Ramsey.
nah HBO just likes to recycle actors
@@jeronomojoe Looks apart, she absolutely captured Ellie's personality.
@@jeronomojoeexcept she is like Ellie, she perfectly captures Ellie’s personality and complexity. And it’s clear that the creators of the games also sees her as Ellie, they’re the ones who chose her.
19:08 I'm shocked that no one has picked up on the stupidity of this exchange. Jon, Sansa, & Davos were trying to convince Lady Mormont to help save Rickon, yet none of them fucking mentioned Rickon. Lady Mormont famously sent a raven in S05 and reiterated in this meeting that: *_"Bear Island knows no king but the king in the north, whose name is Stark."_*
She won't trust Jon because he's a bastard, and she won't trust Sansa because she was married to 2 different enemies of House Stark. That's fine. But Rickon Stark is a Stark. He is the heir to Winterfell, he is alive, and he's a prisoner. Yet he is not mentioned to Lady Mormont who is reluctant to help because her motto is "we serve the Starks". The answer is right there, but no one gives it.
For Jon & Sansa, Rickon is the primary motivator to go to war with the Boltons, yet he is not mentioned once to convince Lyanna Mormont, when she made it crystal clear that it's the only argument that would sway her. But what sways her instead? The threat, of the White Walkers. Magical creatures she has never seen or believed in.
Damn. Good point!
Season 6 has a lot of these type of mistakes but they go unnoticed by most because of the cool moments that blind them.
@@JacobMoitt Indeed. It's also extremely baffling that none of the Northern Lord have any question for Jon in regard to why he is able to leave the NW. Hell, Sansa never even asked him about how he came back from the dead. We never have that conversation. I also am not convince that anyone would believe Jon if he told them the truth.
Rickon could have been mentioned in the raven's letter that set up this meeting.
Rickon is not enough of a character to use in this scene. The audience also has to be moved by the plea. Imagining Rickon as King , is not it.
Well, no. Rickon is a truly bad reason to rally a fight around for because he is a hostage and in order to legitimize his claim, Ramsey will sooner or later be forced to kill him. Had the fight been for Rickon, his death at the beginning of the Battle of the Bastards ends the whole alliance right there as he was the last Stark. That would have been a far worse plan.
Instead, Jon, Sansa and Davos are trying to convince Lady Mormont that the battle is between the living and the dead and as such, individual house squabbles must be put on the back burner. Davos states this directly and clearly.
Margaery nealy breaking when hugging her grandmother is a great little moment
"Growing Strong".
It is a great moment. We don’t get to see Margaery’s vulnerable side that much, so it hits hard when we get scenes like this.
The best thing about Lyanna Mormont's introduction scene is that they didn't made her just a bossy little girl who can speak well, she actually listens to the counselors that are by her side before making decisions, and shuts them when deems necessary. It sells really well the dynamic between the people in Bear Island and why they trust her to be their leader.
In first season Ned was beheaded (main character), khal Drogo is killed by scratch and king Robert was killed by boar, and then there is Arya in season 6 stabed many times jump in water, walk trough city like that and then jump like ninja from high with no problem. It' one big piece of shit.
Arya was stabbed in her belly 3 times. Talk to any surgeon, he'll tell you it's pretty much death, unless you get help immediately.
Immediately followed by a swim, with open wounds, in the sewer of a river that flows through a city.
Yeah, this was beyond stupid. Plus Arya is not a dumb person. She knows how the Faceless Men operate, knows they will come after her, and she just casually walks around Braavos, free of any worries and not suspicious of people at all… excuse me no
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You're getting a second chance there will not be a third. You know who the Faceless men are. You walk around like it's summer day with not a care in the world. Get Stabbed three times in a stomach, swimming sewer water and you're o k plot Armor very bad Writing
luckily the only person she knows in the city happens to be a medical expert in her spare time so it all works out
Ian McShane ❤ absolute legendary actor.
Ian McShane is a beast of an actor. Epic in Deadwood.
Yeah to bad they didn't use him more in GOT.
They wasted him. 😒
John Wick movies as well.
Deadwood is amazing “Swegin..TWO COCK SUCKA!”
Deadwood was a great show, too bad it got cancelled. I couldn't bring myself to watch the movie though, they all aged so much, it just didn't feel the same.
I just clicked the moment I saw the notification and I am leaving this comment before I watched any of it. I have been dying for you to meet Lyanna Mormont! One of my most favourite characters ever!
And the actress crushes her role in the Last of Us!
The conversation between Blackfish and Jaime might be my favourite scene of the season
…. because it’s one of the only S6 scenes from the books
Well, the conversation in the book was even better 😁
30:58 Excellent question Pudgey. Excellent question. 🙃We all wondered the same thing. How many times have we seen characters die for less in previous seasons?
I am here just for her honestly, She is smart so I know that I will not be disappointed.
@@TheNoely31 Yes, she is very good. She remembers details, unlike Spartan who doesn't think that details matter. That's why he's wrong or surprised most of the time.
as a GOT and LOU fan, Lyanna >>>> Elle. the impact of her character's first appearance was immense. you had to be there to get a full grasp of how Lyanna broke the internet on that episode. fans were pledging their loyalty and ascended her to the Iron Throne 😂
*TLOU, *Ellie.
I love it when Olenna says "I wonder if you are the worst person I've ever met" to Cersei. Olenna is the only one who can say such a thing to Cersei, and get away with it...
I grew up watching The Avengers in the 60's with Emma Peel. She may have aged but has only gotten more charming. Time marches on.
62 is not a significant number of soldiers, but the allegiance of a noble house is extremely valuable in convincing other houses to join your cause.
It still pisses me off SO much to think of all the Bear Island warriors that died at the red wedding.
Great F job, Robb.
In the book version, the blackfish uses the Stark banner when he retakes the castle. He's such a bada$$ ❤❤
11:55 Remember the Tyrell House words: *growing strong.* Margaery is hanging in there.
I've been waiting since the Hound's fall for this episode. He's my favorite character to watch in this show. He's known as a brute, but I find him to be one of the smarter characters, as he always thinks things through to the endgame before making a decision. He constantly predicts the outcome of events before they even begin.
Yeah, is is also a cynic born of realism. He has seen shit and done shit, and he knows that the world is a horrible place. So he always expects the worst, and sadly, he is mostly right.
I enjoy every time a Northerner gets called a Southerner. Puts the world in perspective. It's easy to overlook the added weight carried with Bear Island as an ally when gathering more. That's the real gain.
Lord Glover is a perfect example of needing to listen to the whole story, Before you judge somebody and the decisions that they make...
He's perfectly justified and his anger towards the starks.
It's explained a lot more in the book, but the Sparrows emerged among the refugees created by the War of the Five Kings, especially the rampant burning and pillaging that was employed by Tywin's forces in the Riverlands. They became so powerful because they gained the support of the common people and represented their grievances against the noble houses whose petty wars and squabbling had killed thousands of innocent people and generally made their lives miserable.
If you think Cersei is broken and has lost her power than you haven't been paying attention the last six seasons.
🤣🤣🤣
5 seasons of dynamic political intrigue and ruthless manipulation.... And 2.9 seasons of plot armor, and 2full seasons of literal armor and staring out windows..menacingly..
She has lost her power at the moment. But of course, she won't just give up.
But that is exactly what happened, they broke her last season, she lost power when Joffrey died, she lost even more power when Tywin died (she even failed to win Kevan's support), she lost more power Marcella died (can' use her for political marriage etc.), she lost Tommen to the High Sparow... but even more devastatingly, the crown owes the Iron Bank millions and for the first time in Lannister history they don't have their gold bro, the mines have dried up and that was back when Tywin was still alive! and what's that famous Lannister saying again?
In the books, when the Lannisters assume power and the War of the Five Kings begins it is the Iron Bank that loans the money for the Lannisters to wage war. When Tywin and Joff kick the bucket, Cersei declared the Lannister’s debt null and void which pisses off the Bank to no avail (it turns out that while the Lannister’s unofficial motto is “a Lannister always pays his debts” the Bank’s motto is “The Iron Bank always gets its due”). In response the Bank agrees to back the claim of Stannis Baratheon to the Iron Throne and grant him a considerable loan.
the voice of the village septon is so soothing.
Bear Island has 400 Men. She gave Jon 62 just in case they lose. Bear Island wanted to keep what they have left to defend the island. They once had 4000 most of them were killed during Robb’s War, and the red wedding.
Lyanna: every man in Bear Island fights with the strength of 10 mainlanders.
Spartan: 62 is nothing
Spartan should know of all people the wonder of few hardboiled warriors can do fighting against an army with numbers way more than 10x what King Leonidas have.
i remember the conversations people had when the episode first aired, everyone was convinced that arya let herself get stabbed on purpose and used a blood pouch from her actor friend to fake her death or she was really jaquen in disguise or something. nope. she's just unkillable because she's a main character and the audience isnt supposed to question it or think too hard about it.
Meh, it's a show where we've already seen Jon Snow come back from the dead, not to mention unstoppable smoke baby assassins, unburnable Dany and fire breathing dragons. We don't get the details of how Arya survives but the GOT world does possess the magic to make it happen. Still, I would have preferred a little more set up for this.
Correct. My question then and now is who survives being repeatedly stabbed in the stomach? To be sure, Maisie Williams did a phenomenal job of selling that, but in reality, she would not have gotten far, even if she had managed to get out of the water. The shock alone would have prevented her from walking around with injuries like that, not to mention the blood loss.
You can tell Jamie respects the black fish. And he wanted his approval.
Even though hes his enemy, and hes gonna have to kill him.
Love is the death of duty. Rob failed in his duty as a Stark when he followed his heart.
If Spartan had made the trip to Bear Island and reacted to Lady Mormont as he did here (with all the grace of an entitled Lannister) rather than with the quiet acceptance of his hero crush Jon - he'd be leaving with zero. 🤣
Spartan should be put in chains for his reaction to 62.
Yeah he's a bit too dominant sounds like in his goofy comments about Pidgey It was Sad kind of how he said He would sacrifice Pidgey to get Jon back. I know he wouldn't really but that's still a bit hurtful.
@@taywilliams5057 Frankly, Pudgey is a real gem of a person to be able to brush off the dismissive comments from Spartan.
@@bbwng54 very true I know it's not malicious and it's even Funny a tiny bit. I mean it could easily bring an awkward smile to my face but I thought it probably shouldn't have been said. I do love freedom of speech so I'm fine with it. Lol I'm looking forward to episode Nine and ten reaction when they get edited and put on UA-cam
Was a welcome shock when we saw The Hound back. Ian McShane a powerhouse actor, Deadwood, John Wick etc. Always liked the group he ends up joining. From this show we all knew Mormont could play Ellie. Blackfish was awesome.
Strange how all the people complaining about how Arya survived her injuries seem to be just fine with The Hound surviving his. Unlike Arya, who is in a city where there actually are people around who could help, The Hound is a all alone in the wilderness when Arya leaves him to die.
When I saw McShane I knew it would be a short engagement - almost a cameo, the way he is used. Makes sense when reintroducing a beloved character. They needed an actor capable of standing toe to toe right from the start.
@@gunkulator1 if the Waif missed any internal organs, I'd say Arya surviving is reasonable if she gets help quickly. Personally, I have a bigger issue with her running and fighting in the next episode when she was recently stabbed and stitched up.
I love it when Pudgey said is that Bran the builder?
I remember watching this episode when it came out thinking it was a flashback scene and thought the same thing
its true that every mormont fights for 10 men. just remember Sor Jorah, he is a beast even at old age.
If you remember.If you remember the wedding where Lord Edmure got married?.... The black fish is his Uncle. And he was talking to catlyn, saying that his nephew is an idiot or something like that. And then the next thing he said was "but I love him.".... He does care about him, but that doesn't mean that he's not willing to sacrifice him To keep his Ancestral home....
Bella Ramsey will always be Lady Lyana Mormont of Bear Island for me...badass runs in her family. ❤😁👸
Can’t believe Arya got stabbed several times and thrown in a muddy river then was completely okay. “How do you survive that?” … exactly. So stupid.
Like how 50 cent got shot 9 times and lived?
@@flexorcist30 and after he got shot he fell into a dirty river?
This scene is complete bs.
@@flexorcist30
I’m not familiar with that. Did he fall in a dirty river and not go to hospital?
@@Erik-pz3sh im not sure how that is unrealistic to you, there are tons of real life example of surviving due to will to live. There is a dude who survived a fall from 47th floor or a dude who got shot in the head. Stab wounds can be survivable. Just last month a person was stabbed 19 times left for dead for 24 hours and managed to bring herself to a hospital
@@flexorcist30 I think the treatment, or lack of, is what most people call out as being unreasonable
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I was overcome with joy when I saw one man carrying a log. Had to resist screaming in my dorm 🤣 GET HYPE! 📣
Natalie Dormer's Margarey is just one of the best things about this show. Absolutely smashed it out of the park she's phenomenal.
The mormonts don't have so many men because they just have that island and also living in the north and especially at the island isn't easy AND the north lost a lot of warriors in "Robbs war". The north is veeery big and there are maaaany houses, so it's normally no problem that there are a lot of tiny houses. The big houses with more than thousand men are: house stark, house bolton, house umber, house glover, house karstark and the house with the merman (i forgot the name, I think house manderly?). House bolton is the strongest after house stark and ramsay is allied with house umber and house karstark.
Edit: house mormont is a bit like house reet (brans 2 friends, the siblings, are from house reed), very loyal but not so strong, but house reed should be more important because of their fortress and the stratecig location
House Manderly with a merMAN sigil. And House *Reed
@@NiKiMa023 I had my last English lesson 2 years before I finished school and I finished school some years ago and I normally don't need English in my life, so yeah, my english isn't the best, especially when we talk about fantasy creatures and the correct english names. Sometimes I still have to read english articles or books for the university, but there are no mermaids or mermen, its always about philosophy, society, systems, politics and stuff like that. And I think the house is written Reet in german. But thanks, I'm going to correct it
@@NiKiMa023 I'm just happy I remembered house manderly😂 I didn't read the books in the last 2 or 3 years, but I still remember a lot
@@FrankeNamensKarim you remembered more than me listing the houses, their men and the Manderly sigil! Good job with that.
I wasn’t trying to be annoying or pedantic with the ‘corrections’. Well maybe with the merMan 🤣. I am not fluent enough in any other language, and find that I often don’t have the mastery of English I think I do 🤣 Kudos for your ability to express yourself perfectly well, in an additional language
@@NiKiMa023 thanks^^ and yeah, I already thought you didn't write it with the intention to be annoying or something like that, don't worry😅 and again thanks, my English is definitely better than my arab and spanish, but my german and french are still better, I never liked to learn English and so I decided in the tenth class to cancel english and to continue French for my last 2 years because I was always better in french, but I watch English reactions like that and I began to read some mangas in English too, I think that's really helpful, even when I'm still not very confident in expressing and explaining what I think in English. But yeah, thanks
21:45 Remember guys, the Mormont's actually stayed all the way to the Red Wedding, unlike other houses they need time to rebuild their armies and fighting men, but mark her words as you have seen already they fight fiercely.
The Shield Jon picks up against Ramsey is a Mormont shield which means they made it to Winterfell with Jon even though they only had 62 men.
Blackfish would have been a great asset to Jon's future army. One of those old, grumpy commanders that would hold a position no matter the odds, and never be disloyal.
Arya surviving that shit was biggest piece of plot armour in the show for now.
@@SidV101 honestly this was on the same level. anyone with a functional brain would understand that a less severe injury is the right choice for this
Her whole plot with the faceless man is so messy and the payoff was bad, so what was the point 😢. Her getting stab was so dumb and trash writing
@@xaviermm5506 It was not messy, the payoff was satisfying. The whole point is that Arya is not an assassin, she does not want to kill anyone, only those who wronged her.
⚠️⚠️SPOILER WARNING⚠️⚠️
@@ianvera4299 I understand that but she does become a coldblooded assassin anyway, like when she killed Walder Fray or Littlefinger. And it was messy. First, all of her scenes from the 5th season were kinda boring. All she did was walk around cleaning bodies and not doing much. Things get a little more interesting when Jaqen assigned her to become a girl who sells sea food to spy on an old man to then kill Meryn Trant. That was fun, then she becomes blind for some strange reason, no explanation AT ALL. Then in season 6, they spent a LOT OF screen time on the comedy show, once was ok but there were like 3 whole pointless scenes of cringy comedy. And finally, all of that so the payoff was a classic chase through the street and to then Arya killing the Waif off-screen and Jaqen just letting her go even though she killed his assistant, literally disobeyed all of their orders and stole a few faces is so anticlimactic. (Not to mention the dumbest plot armour in the whole series 🙄 Arya getting stabbed and surviving).
They made a cool concept boring. Arya's interaction with the Waif and with Jaqen lacked everything from other interactions, like Arya and the Hound or Arya and Tywin. The only satisfying payoff from all of her faceless training was her killing Walder Fray, after that she never uses the faces ever again. FeelsBadMan, I loved Arya before season 5.
@@xaviermm5506 No she does not. Arya is not getting paid to kill people on her list, and that's the point. Assassins are hired killers, Arya is just obsessed with revenge that it blinds her judgment and is a cautionary tale. Walder Frey and LF both were responsible for her family members dying. And it was not messy at all. Season 5 was not boring imo, Arya learned the difference between killing people who deserve it rather than serving the many faced gods, she learned the game of faces, and she learned the consequences of using the faces of others. She literally kills MerynTrant in season 5 , which already contradicts your whole argument since that was a greatly written scene. What comedy show? You mean the play that reminded Arya of her life back in Westeros, of the many people that wronged her, and that she doesn't want to be a faceless man? That is not pointless, it's called character development. You wanna talk about dumbest plot armor, how about Tyrion surviving the battle of blackwater without any combat training being saved by an inexperienced squire or that Sam killed a WW by accident? They made a cool concept amazing. Maybe because Arya doesn't need in-depth interactions with the Waif( and Twyin and Arya is a show with only detail that was better than the books). First you say there's any payoff then you say there is payoff with Arya killing Walder, stop changing the golf post to fit your weak narrative. Changing one's face is not the only skill Arya learned, she also relied on her other senses while being blind to navigate in darkness which helped her in the battle of WF where she killed the NK. I loved Arya in all 8 seasons.
Well, it's not Blackfish but it's Blackbeard from Potc. Close enough for me
Even if Gendry were not still rowing, he would not be considered a potential heir because he is not "legitimate" (as the term was used). His last name, I think, would be "Stone" or something like that. In the rules of this world (and pretty much all monarchies historically), children born out of wedlock were not considered heirs to their fathers' thrones or titles. Now, the fathers could legitimate them (as Roose did to Ramsey) or could otherwise create a new title for them (this was common in Britain throughout history). But no royal son or daughter born outside the marriage would inherit the throne.
He wouldn't even be considered to have a last name at all because his father didn't recognise him as his bastard.
Finally Lyanna!!! I was waiting for you to see Lady Mormont, she is the best! Fierce!
The actor who played Brother Ray, the leader of the group the Hound is with at the beginning of the episode, is Ian McShane. My favorite role of his is as Mr. Wednesday (Odin) in the show American Gods. He also appears in several John Wick movies, Deadwood: The Movie, Hellboy, The Golden Compass, and many more.
I remember him from tv miniseries in the 70s, 80s and, I think, Masterpiece Theater. Had a massive crush. And he was the best thing about Deadwood.
Hi. Now you know why Jaqen H'ahar kept hitting Arya with the whip. When Arya kept saying The Hound was dead.
I doubt a man in Bravos magically knows a man is alive thousand of miles and a continent away. He struck Arya because he knows she is lying about hating The Hound, or finished him off.
"It wasn't that big of a fall" -Muppet
Robb definetely failed the North, and his men. He chose love over duty, and married Talisa. This is what led to Walder Frey betraying him, and the death of all Stark Loyalists.
Thousands died because of Robb’s foolish decision. It’s understandable that some are upset
The legends have it that the White Walkers built the wall to keep themselves safe from Lyanna Mormont.
I always felt sorry for the hound no matter if he was winning or losing, he just loves smashing heads in🤣💀
I’m not quite sure what image it is you guys have of Theon before Reek. It feels like you built up this amazing badass character in your head that never existed.
Omg I know right. When Yara told Theon they were going to see the dragon queen, Spartan was excited about Theon and Danny, I was literally so confused, what does he think Theon is going to do? Sometimes he overlooks female characters and does not see the important and potential roles they might play in Game of thrones. Danny is more likely to listen to and relate to Yara who is a woman trying to take her place in a man’a world, compared to Theon who is a man that overestimated his abilities and got massively humbled.
Given that Arya fell with an open stomach wound into a canal with dirty water, she should have died no matter what. Even todays doctors would struggle to heal that kind of wound. The toxins and infections that would got into her body would have killed her for sure.
That's why it's called fantasy. Dragons aren't real either.
@@geetee4459 the non fantastical elements still need to seem plausible to the viewer to maintain coherency. It'd be like if you replaced a main character with kermit the frog. "But muh dragons, why can't you accept kermit in your fantasy world?"
Smooth brain take
@@geetee4459 I guess that the deaths from childbirth, starvation, disease, and in case of Drogo, infection, must be quite immersion breaking for you as a fantasy show watcher.
@@permets2apollox453 Cos it's not easy being green....
@@permets2apollox453 Anyway I will just eat some lambas bread, take a ride in the TARDIS and then call Aslan. Lucy could easily save Arya by dabbing a bit of her potion on that horrible stomach wound.
Been Waiting For This Reaction Guys Cause The Hound Is My Favourite G.O.T Character 👍💯
Got the "Battle of the Bastards" to look forward to! Have fun and take care always!
The scene with the Hound at the start was so bad. I know they had to have some exposition to fill in the blanks, but the guy literally just walked over and told the Hound a story he already knew because he was part of it.
He is not the Blackfish but he did play Blackbeard in one of the Pirates of the Caribbean films! 😁
He's still Black something!
The reason the 3 eyed raven was in a tree was because he got lost in his visions and stayed in them for so long that the tree grew around him. That is why he warned Bran about doing the same thing
@Jim Mackey: thank you. I didn't know this for sure.
The way Natalie Dormer conveys her feelings with just her facial expressions shows how great of an actress she really is. Also, Theon really has one of the best character arcs in the entire show from start to finish. Alfie Allen deserved an Emmy for his role.
She was also great in Elementary
The hound was one of my fav characters with Tyrion and Varys.. he is not really evil, just had a horrible childhood and life and indifferent because he doesn't feel like he has anything to live for, and when he left kings landing he started to care for Arya, and in this episode he for the first time he felt like might belong anywhere and then this happened, his life is so tragic 😥
Arya was being a bit cocky, she should have been expecting the faceless to be after her and should have been more stealthy about her doings, but she is still young even though she went through so much more than anyone else at her age
Never get on the bad side of the little Bear
lol the fucking _rowing_ joke managed to make it's way down to you guys even past all this time. _fantastic._
Spartan you gotta remember dude House Frey broke a sacred oath killing Robb. Yeah he messed up but he didn't deserve this.
Well, Robb also broke an oath and he should have focus but he didn't. That's why his men got mad, that's why lord karstark couldn't wait and wait and wait after losing his sons and after Jaime went away with the help of catelyn. Robb killed lord karstark and ignored he's one of the most powerful lords of the north, he ignored he needs that power after losing lord frey who also is one of the most powerful lords of the riverlands. There are no words to describe how hard robb screwed up
Rob made house Frey openly rebel against crown in exchange for a position of a queen if they win. Their entire house could be destroyed as punishment for supporting himin this rebellion and he refused to pay up? He deserved much, much worse. Hell, even scumbag like Tywin deliver what was owed to allies.
@@FrankeNamensKarim 💯, so true
It's funny how pudgey dislikes the talk about robb and his wife😂 I mean he isn't wrong, robb really got distracted. Yes, it was romantic and love and and and, but he should have marry the frey girl. House Karstark, house Bolton and house Frey wouldn't have betray him and he could have win the war. Robb was nice and a good character, but yeah... He gave a sh*t about his duty, and the books it's more understandable that he doesn't marry the frey girl, the book version is a bit more like ned
It makes more sense about why Robb broke is vow. The circumstances are entirely different.
@@majhis7126 and what did I say? I don't want to talk too much about the difference because there are still people who haven't read the books but want to do it, that's why my comment is so vague
The Tully army is trapped in Riverrun and surrounded by the armies of House Frey and House Lannister. So they won't be joining Jon at Winterfell.
Those 62 soldiers will come in handy guys 😉 ur coming up to some of the best episodes in television 📺. Can’t wait to see ur guys reaction 😊
They past best episodes long ago ...
@@8293nokinho There are still some great moments to come.
The best is behind us. Far behind us
Good episodes died with Hodor
@@hokagedlo6133 Unpopular opinion: Season 8 episode 3 is my favorite GOT episode ever
Pudgies intuition is always on point
I never really understood why the OG three eyed raven was seemingly contained to the tree. But Bran wasn't.
I think it has something to do with the fact that Bran is unable to walk. The old man had to surrender his physical form to become the Three-Eyed Raven, which he accomplished by bonding to the tree, but Bran doesn't need to do that because he is already paralysed. I could be wrong though.
If there is a plot hole like this, just assume there was no logic behind the decision. D&D are hacks.
Its pretty simple.
He warns bran about not staying in visions for too long and make the same mistake he did.
Since Brynden (Bloodraven) Spent too much time in the vision, the tree grew around him and He got stuck there. so he was warning bran to not stay for too long.
@@zulqarnainaqeelbazmi780 Bloodraven most likely fused with the tree because his body was too aged. In the book he is basically an overgrown corpse.
I couldn't tell you how happy I was when The Hound turned around and I saw that beautiful face again. One of the many reasons why I love this season so much.
My man Spartan taking the L as usual as early as 10 seconds into the episode.
13:03 I love show Tormund, but book Tormund has more depth, so he has my heart. Just re-read one of the Jon chapters where he talks about his sons and it's just so moving.
Book Tormund is basically Wildling Robert Baratheon!
@@luigicavallo270 What do you mean by that? Can you elaborate? In the books, we see Tormund be vulnerable, and talk about his pain. He cries. I don't remember ever seeing Bobby B like that.
@@Mic-Mak Aye, Tormund crying is a powerful moment, I agree...I'm talking about his lines in ASOS...
@@luigicavallo270 Ah, got it. Yes, Tormund is very jovial like Robert.
18:36 Meet the hardest baddest character in the whole show. Lady Lyanna Mormont is possibly the most frighting person ever on TV.
Because she dropped a few lines? Lol.
@@Al-ji4gd yes because she was just a very little girl. They didn’t give her a big dragon or 3. Didn’t giver her magic like red woman, special abilities like face changing etc etc.
@@Al-ji4gd yes, stay mad
@@アキコ2003 Didn't know you liked little girls so much.
@@Al-ji4gd didn't know you hated certain female actresses so much,
You must be a daddy thaught sexist
Pudgey, I love your eye rolls. I anticipate them coming now.
Just have to say...
This Lyanna Mormont Character is so BOSS! This is the brief appearance here in this ep that made the young actors career take off. She was so perfectly cast.
The Blackfish and Glover scenes were so good! You really get the weight behind the actors words.
I know you were so happy the Hound was back, I was so happy when I saw Ian McShane was cast as Meribald. Then it got the abbreviated treatment in the show. *Side note* - I hope you watch Deadwood at some point. I saw your poll for what to watch next... I hope you try some classics that are not as popular with reactors. PLEASE break from the status quo. I appreciate your reactions so much and I would love to see your reviews and analysis of Deadwood, Black Sails, The Wire, S1 of True Detective even Boardwalk Empire. If you are going to do a popular one- Succession is the one. I digress...
That Marjorie scene was great. I mean, it almost gave Spartan the feels.
I was very annoyed with how the scene with Arya played out. I agree- it wasn't executed so well. In any case her character has been THROUGH it - psychologically and physically. This is definitely deeply imprinting in her and will make her a formidable foe - if she makes it out of Bravos.
Danny is fully set now with all of the people she's got on her side. She will be strong on sea and land- it seems.
Jon as king in the north would be great, Spartan, I agree. Will we see that dream? We shall see.
Yeees
The Wire and Black Sails are some of the best TV in existence
@@blinkachu5275 And Six feet Under.
Sansa: _"It's not enough, we need more men..."_
Me: _"There are...those who dwell in the mountains."_
pudgey predicts everything omg! i love her hahah
Aw, now, be fair. Bear Island is just a little island. It's not huge and spread out like the Stark lands, so they don't have a lot of people to become warriors. Also, a lot of them got killed by Robb's stupidity.
What did Robb do? Listened to his cock instead of his ethics. When you make a promise, you should abide by your promise. That promise doesn't just go away because you met a pretty girl. However, Robb didn't care about keeping his promises. His father would have been ashamed of him. (Mind you, his father also handled things stupidly, just in a more honorable way.)
30:27 the lady brings Arya plot armor, yay!
"But how does she survive that."
Simple, she was wearing an Ancient Valyrian garment known as Ploatus Armoura.
I’ve never notice the similarities between the village septon and the blackfish ahah the village septon could be his younger brother.
There is a resemblance. I had watched Ian Mcshane in many things, so recognized him.
I was so eager for this episode finally get to see your surprised faces seeing the hound alive it's a gem of an episode for me cause I liked the hounds character very intriguing and it's a treat to see him again after so long 😁
This shows the clear difference between religious person for community/their flock and High Sparrow
Jaqan had a special affection for Arya. She saved him when they first met and she outsmarted him by threatening to make him kill himself to keep his vow. I think he saw great potential in her and was grooming her, perhaps to take his place one day. And I think that’s why the other girl, The Waif, hated her. But Arya was proudly Stark and had her own mission, revenge. The Waif made Arya’s list, even though she didn’t know her name.
8:14 aye this is the type of fantasy world which excites me the most everything happens for a reason and i need to know why?. It's so much fascinating the lore ,the possibilities ,the hunt it's my kind of drug
Margaery is always playing. She'd do well serving the many faced god.
"Maybe he'll kill the mountain after all!"
Many fans had theorized about this for a long time, such that the theory was called "CleganeBowl." CleganeBowl was coming, that was the hope! Those hopes faded a little when Arya left him for dead (though there were some hints in the book that he might be alive), but his reappearance with this episode re-ignited hopes in CleganeBowl once more!
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