Go Compare BMW R1250GS Rallye & Exclusive
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2020
- Go Compare The Exclusive & the Rallye BMW R1250GS, what my mate thinks about his third GS, and the customer service!
mud sling
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headlight protection on the Rallye
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I have the Exclusive 2019 model and love it (its my first ever GS) Before lockdown it had taken me to Spain-Norway (arctic circle)-Germany-Sweden. It's now being used mainly as a blood bike for Essex Bloodruners. With 18.5 miles on the clock, it's a thing of beauty and doesn't let me down.
I need to do the Arctic and the midnight sun tour with Mottorad tours.
Crisp presentation style , well paced, no bullshit.
Thanks for making this.
When I wash my bike I blow the water off with a leaf blower. Makes a big difference and works really quickly.
I have one, well a pet blower, I needed to get some lime scale remover and then blow it away after washing it out, thanks Drew
I own a 19 GS exclusive also, love my Dunlap TrailMax's!!! Great on road good offroad. Thank for sharing, great video.
Glad you enjoyed it! im going for the Conti Trail attack 3, ride save and keep supporting the channel
Great video. Love them both, especially the exclusive. I wish i could have that bike someday...
Maybe one day! thanks Anton, todays new bike will be loosing value and affordable eventually, stay in touch with the channel.
Nice review! I’m running continental trail attack 3 on my 1250gsa and love them!! Very sticky here in the Spanish twisties it’s like 90/10 road tire 👍 regards Dennis
Thanks Dennis, going to need to invest very soon
On2Wheels with Dennis agreed ... binned the factory Bridgestones after 100 miles , trail attacks really quiet and sticky ..
highdef 1080p yes! Mine came on the Michelin anakee adventures and didn’t get along with them, found them very vague plus the front was toasted in just 2k sides completely gone. I’m very happy with the Cta 3 👍 regards Dennis
Front tyre came today so fitting soon
Many thanks for the video. I had a 2014 GS, then a 2016 GSA and now have the GSA 1250 HP; I can honestly say that each bike has got better and agree with Ivor and others that the new engine/bike is smoother and faster. I have been using Bridgestone Battlax A41 Adventure tyres on my current and last bike, and find them to be excellent in both dry and wet conditions; I cannot comment on off-road. Cheers, Andy
Couldn't agree more! I would really like to have a GS that I didnt care about so that I could off road without caring about killing it.
Tell Ivor his comments about the 1250 versus the 1200 are spot on ! I concur with every word he said! There is a big difference.
Ps.. ref the eBay thing - fitted with crappy cable ties is ridiculously nasty on a £20K bike !
I have the same GS as you, I would not swap it for the HP. Cast wheels easier to clean, plus I do not like gold wheels which seem to be getting more popular. As regards washing the bike, use a warm air drier to dry the bike, one of the best bits of kit I have bought, it will get rid of the residual water on the engine fins.
I really like my 1250 GS Exclusive!!
I have one too, like you one of the best bits of kit I ever bought, I got rid of the lime deposit by using some bathroom cleaner
great video, I have the same exclusive as you, I use acf50 on the engine and plastics.
A friend of mine cleaned my bike last year and did the AC50 routines, I’ve just ordered a Sky lift so will be doing the same and showing the sky lift hopefully without any outtakes
Nice review. I treated myself to a 1250GS TE Rallye for the usual reasons. The brand, the model and the service BMW provide, without even taking one for a test ride.. A winning combination. For quality and reliability it is second to none. There has to be a reason why such an expensive bike is so popular and I think it is a combination all all these reasons. There are also so many ways it can be personalised to the owners taste and yes I am no exception! It is a very expensive bike to buy but Now I have it I do not regret paying the high price as it is worth it. You get what you pay for and it is a bike that’s a keeper so you do not have to keep changing it ever few years so perhaps that helps to justify buying it over the long term.
Genuinely, I’m usually chasing the new year the next newest model, I stuck with the Triumph Tiger from 2012 to 2019 when I eventually tried and bought the 2019 R1250 it’s a brilliant bike it just does it all. I’ve even tried doing some off road work with BMW in Wales UK and it’s just beyond what I expected. I will buy again but it does need to be a complete new engine possible lighter or a 1300 who knows but I’m not over keen on the current version over mine for the cost to change. Thanks for subscribing going to make it the channel for the bikers
Thanks for the HP exhaust comment. I bought the 2020 GSA Exclusive, and was considering doing the upgrade. In Canada I'm seeing about $1500-1800 for that upgrade, which is crazy if you ask me. I've bought a lot of slip ons in my life, most at least 1/2 that price.
Still laughing at your hot exhaust slip up, brought tears to my eyes.
Cheers
Hi Steve, the funny bit about that was it was the second take as I fluffed the first one as it was too hot and I swore. I like the HP but definitely not worth the money
@@SmileyoureonTV Got the bike yesterday, I won't be changing the can for sure. Think it sounds great. Especially on those long rides, my ears can't handle loud droning noises for long periods anymore.
Great video. Keep them coming! Curious how you have found the windshield on the GS? I have a KTM 790 adventure which is a great bike but the buffeting is horrendous. Considering a GS as a result.
I changed my screen to get a little more protection, I now have the Givi Screen, it does the job for me, but I do think its a lot to do mwith the helmet too.
Dunlop Trailmax Mission, they look interesting 👍🏻
Another excellent video!!! Is the BBC looking for a new presenter? 👍👍
J Gonzalez the BBC would need someone that knew what they were talking about!
I Really understand what you`re saying about the “bond” thing. I had it with my previous 1200 GS - Excusive style / 2018 -. I decided to up grade for the 1250, (because it is, in fact , an up grade), but I found the new bike a little less comfortable, strangely. I didn`t create that bond with it yet...I`m waiting for that to happen. It is getting the first service now, and I expect to explore more, in order to achieve the full expectations. The engine feels a lot different, bettered and improved, the gear box and the breaks also. But there`s something about the suspension...I can’t tell yet. Don’t know what it is...I had the seat on the low position ( the previous bike), just to control better everything when I`m riding with my wife ( with the panniers installed too), but I`m thinking if I should change it for the higher position in order to get the comfort, we are missing.
Thanks for the very interesting video and for the opinion concerning this specific model and its different “ages”, and versions. About the cleaning. When you wash it, do you dry all the water with air compression? Maybe it is the better procedure to eliminate the particles that get stuck on that hidden spots where is difficult to clean everything well. Sorry for the obvious suggesting (it is well intended). I will be looking forward to the next video, with your thoughts about the Brand. that is an interesting subject.
Hi, thanks for the comments, very thought provoking, I was talking with a friend that has upgraded to the new 1250 from the 1200 and he was not happy with the suspension on the auto setting, it liked to be able to set it for two up with luggage and now its auto it appears to be bouncy, I've experienced this too. recently me and mrs smile did the Yorkshire Dales, I always overpack, I think its a disease, we went round one bend in the road and bottomed out the bike (scary) my bond is stronger when the bike is clean.
I read somewhere that the Rallye has the same suspension as the Adventure models. You didn't mention that, so is that true or not, do you know?
Enjoyed the video thanks. 😃👍
I like the larger windscreen on one of the bikes. Is it the same size windscreen used on GS Adventure? Did you order it extra on your GS or was it stock?
The exclusive has a givi tinted screen it is as close to the adventure screen as you can get. I got it fro nippy Norman’s in the Uk
I agree with Dennis Conti RA3, I dont use the trail version which is what you would need but Conti deff!!
Thanks I need to change after another 1000 miles as it’s ruff riding and scalloping
Thank you for the review. I would be looking forward to 40 years GS vs triple black vs rally 😉
What's the windscreen on the exclusive ? Do you recommend it ?
its a Givi, but its smoked and I would actually prefer a clear one, the good thing is it comes with a support bracket to stop it from flexing or breaking. I think I bought it from Nippy Normans
Rallye HP is much faster than the Exclusive - it means High Power :) I had a similar experience with my previous GSA. Even though I am 6' tall, I never felt comfortable with the Standard Suspension. The seat pushed me towards the tank in every which setting possible. I even bought a device to lift the front and lower the rear. I kept the bike for less than a year and moved to GS Rallye with the lower suspension. Also, my GSA had the noisy Michelin 80/20s which I never liked. Now, very happy with the 1250 GS Rallye. The good news about the GS in the US is the resale value is very high, so getting in and out of the bike is no problem.
I didn’t know that, I’m going to ask the dealer sounds to good to be true
Do you think by adding the side rack will prevent the exhaust pipe from being scratch for the exclusive model?
I’ve had 4 gs’s and will only buy continental trail attack tyres .. you won’t regret it .. they’re much quieter and sticky with a bit of off road bias.
highdef 1080p I’m taking your recommendations and fitting these soon, thank you
Hi,
Nice quick comparison between these two beauties. I love the aesthetics on the new rally version.
I'm in the market for my 1st real motorbike.
I'm nearly forty and 177cm & 56Kgs.
I've always wanted a 1200GS but i feel that it would be too big & heavy as my 1st motorbike in 12 years.
So i've been considering the F750GS instead.
I like offroad stuff but i am inexperienced there, other than being pretty exprienced in MTB.
I want a bike for the road,above all. specially long distances..also a weekly commute.
What do you reckon ?
Thanks very much
cheers from sunny Portugal
Hi, the R1250, R1200 GS has all the weight down low, don't rule it out without a test ride, you should try both bikes and the Triumph Tiger 900, they have been getting some good reviews
Enjoyed the video thanks! Any chance you could post the link for the mud slinger fitted to Ivor’s Rallye please?
Sure I will add it to the vid comments ebay.co.uk/usr/motorcycle-parts-warehouse
Smile you're on TV 👍
Good review. Thanks. Thinking of changing my Triumph Tiger XRT for a GS1250 RALLYE or Exclusive. Your views are really useful. Great idea to review customer service from BMW dealerships. In my opinion about my local dealerships. One is purely bikes and is very poor, the other is cars and bikes and seems brilliant. Is this down to individuals or company culture? Keep up the good work.
Steve , the Triumph is a great bike , but you are in for an exciting change ! I’ve had unbelievable service from North Oxford and Northants Woolaston. They always meet my (high) expectations!
Take a test tide and let us know what you think?
Steve Tamsett Steve I’ve had a good number of Tigers from 2012 to 2018, I literally hated the thought of buying a GS and then the 1250 came out. The best Tiger for me was the Gen 2
Tyres ! Yep I ride 16,000 miles a year on my R1250GS (and similar use on the R1200 GS predecessor) Metzeler Roadtec 01 and Continental Road Attack are the best for grip and feel ... but beware.... I find riding it hard they only last 2100 miles ! (Totally unacceptable imho !)
I hear from friends, though haven’t experienced this myself, the Michelin Pilot 5 will last 4000 miles with hard determined use !
Hey Max, thanks for all the comments, I didn’t think about the riding modes, good call, Ivor is cheap, I will tell him! Regards Tyres my pilot road 5s have done around 6000 and they are truly dead and will be replaced with Conti trail Attack3 as everyone keeps banging on that they are the boots I need
Hi , good video, pls can you tell me what screen you have on your bike pls
Greet video
Ta 👍 thanks for commenting
Test rode a 2020 R1250GS Exclusive today. Not for me which was surprising. I was thinking I might trade up. Main issues were the Ride was too stiff on Road with 38 psi in the tires. Also the seat was too hard and caused some numbness where you don’t want it after only 25 minutes. I was surprised by a lot of noise from the front tire. Would need the bar risers but overall I liked the seating position just not the seat. Power was really nice as was the handling. For now I will hang onto my ‘16 K1600GTL.
yeah, I agree the road noise from the front stock tyre is shocking, I changed mine almost as soon as I got it.
nice rides how much litres of gas does BMW 2020 consumer compared to 2019
Is there no difference in suspension/seat height? Or is the HP simply higher because of the ralley seat? Late comment tho 😅
Does the exclusive have a long range tank could you also let me know how many litres and approximately mileage in kilometres thanks
Isn’t suspension travel longer on the Rallye version?
Is the seat height the same and the size of the fuel tank the same ?
I have had 3 GS 1200s last two LC , and the current one TE triple black sept 15.. fully paid off 30k miles.. i just cant see why I would buy an upgrade... and spend £18k less trade in.. I was on a trip last year and rode a KTM 1290 Super adventure S for a week, another guy had the new GS 1250 and we swapped for a day.. and apart from being a bit smoother and quieter .. I went back on the KTM with a big smile on my face... because that was different... and if i had a dealer closer i may be tempted to change for a KTM.. but at moment love my Triple black.. heres to another 30k of free mileage.. ps what about the lack of colour choice !!! whats that all about.. first watch, will subscribe
its all about time of life regards motorcycles, I've never owned a KTM and the 1250 is my first GS, I didn't like the 1200, I preferred the Triumph Explorer at the time, money is hard earnt so not changing too often and loosing money is the game that has to be played
I had a 2016 then 2018 1200 TE GS before getting a 1250 same as Ivor and preferred the 2016. I think it was the gen2 suspension, the 2016 seemed better planted and handled better. I also didn't like the Panaky 3 Michelins either. The 1250 is a better engine by far pulls better revs better will perform the same as the 1200 in top gear rather than having to use the box on the 1200. The gearbox is better, the GSAP smoother and the Hillhold is better on the 1250 than it was on my 2018 model 1200. Thy the Conti Trail attack 3's - I've still got the Bridgestone A41s on mine which I much prefer over the Michelins and wear Aurotech earplugs so can still hear my satnav. You forgot to mention crud catchers, there's a bloke from Stourbridge that sells nice ones for £35 on ebay. You can get a copy of the MA front fender extender one off ebay for under a tenner as opposed to over 50. I like the Machine Art x heads rather than engine bars as I think they look nicer on the exclusive plus if you do drop it you can buy just the 1 side from Nippy plus they're cheaper than the engine bars too. The other thing with the wheels is apparently the alloys are lighter so the bike will steer slightly quicker as it has less unsprung weight. Allegedly 😁
thats two recommendations for the Conti Trail attack 3's interesting to think the alloys will react better in a turn than the wire wheels, so m any parts to spend money on!
I had a go on a R1250GS TE and thinking of trading in my Tiger GT Pro against one. Is there much difference in seat height between the two models? I can flat foot on my 🐯 and I am not the tallest of riders
I've not ridden the Tiger GT Pro, I did have 1200 Tiger from 2012 and another 3 after that until I finally bought the GS, I loved the 2016 Tiger but these bike are IMO on another level (1250) not the 1200 gs, i'm 5'9 29 Inside leg I can touch the floor comfortably but not flat footed, you can get the low seat and a low frame if you want one.
Ref cleaning the engine fins trim down a used tooth brush and use Autoglym engine degresser
Thanks Andrew, I’ll try that, my HP is only 1 year old , but the engine is minging!
Andrew Bale thanks I will use my wife’s electric toothbrush and see if she notices. If I don’t get back to you then you will know how it went
The Anakee Adventure 80% Road 20% off road are a good tyre.
maybe next time
bmw r 1250 gs What is the minimum height we need to ride this bike
Says a lot about this bike that almost all the owners are middle aged and the guy being interviewed is subtlety wearing his Rolex Sub.
I get it, but I guess that you are young and still on your journey, its tough until you have all you need and then it gets easier, you will have your time and the Rolex guy will be long gone
I have an Apple Watch I’m going to live forever.
@@SmileyoureonTV Nope. I’m middle aged, have a few Rolex’s, and a garage full of toys, including 4 bikes and just ordered a GSA. I think my observation is spot on.
My BMW dealer is poor, and the Triumph dealer is an hour away, but hours closer than the next, and just burned down. The best dealer I have sells just Japanese brands.
Whose your BMW dealer, I will let them know they are unloved.
@@SmileyoureonTV They’re in the US. Everyone hates dealing with them. They’re great when you want to spend money and then act like they’re doing you a favour when servicing. I just ordered a new GS and I plan to take it off-road. BMW don’t make any decent off-road accessories such as skid plate, handguards, adjustable foot controls for MX boots, etc. I’m spending $26k on the bike and another 3 in accessories and they don’t want to install what I want. They’ll sell me the bike, but when it comes to setting it up for off-road use, I’m on my own. Even tires they won’t install unless you buy them from them and they won’t order them in advance so a tires change takes like 2 weeks.
TKC 70,s 👌
There is a difference in suspension travel! (And an Enduro Pro mode) I’m shocked you didn’t mention it.
Max one for the future, personally I can't tell the difference
Hi, I own a 2019 exclusive for a year now. 7,000 miles. I love my bike. But.. I keep getting a message “Fault in the engine control onward journey possible. Ride carefully to next specialist workshop.”
It has been in the shop three times and they can’t find the problem.
Have they fixed it yet?, i'm no expert, I do see faults when the battery seems low but I think rather than the battery it could be a power draw from the starter motor and the terminals might need a clean up. again not an expert but they don't seem to be either
As someone who can see the appeal of tele-lever, boxer & shaft, I struggle to actually want one. I have an Africa Twin. While it has none of the above features, the quality and value for money it offers is great for me. Despite it being a BMW best seller, the quality of some of the materials, high cost of repairs and execution of the GS just does not grab me. I have the cash but cannot see £20k worth of experience no matter how I look at it. The Loncin engine range are mediocre at best in my view. The Japanese brands have products that appeal more to me. If BMW were more commercial or used better materials, I might be swayed.🤔
Hey Ray, it’s really interesting considering the value for money aspect, as most of these bikes don’t have 20k in them as you say the Honda is very capable and my local dealer has been trying to get me to try one for years but he started when they were too damn tall, you see I have a short bottom and therefore it’s like riding a MX bike. I think it’s a good compare so I may do a video on what I think soon. Oh and the value of the bike just crept up on me through trade ups a little here and there.
Some exclusive got gold rims
The Rallye should not have an EU badge on the number plate seeing as we left the EU (politically) last January.
Ha ha
Tell Ivor his eBay thing - (fitted with crappy cable ties) is ridiculously nasty on a £20K bike
I have to agree but it serves a purpose until a better solution can be found.
Why are they still supplying bikes with the euro plate? if it had a union flag you wouldn't require a sticker when we are allowed to travel.
I think they have stopped now
The adventure looks better
use an electric tooth brush it will get into the gaps
You got me in serious trouble with my wife and she made me buy her a new toothbrush,
SW MOTHEC BARS £400
So many options, £400 money well spent Just in case disaster strikes.