As a young boy in the 80s we supported the All Blacks. It was a way to stand against apartheid. However in the ever since 1995 I became a Bok. Unlike you Chester Williams was my hero. I support the Boks but if the All Blacks play any other team I still support them. I have a great admiration for Rassie Erasmus, wish he could be president. 😅
@@MrKamish Rassie is just lucky he has a great pool of players to choose from,not saying he's a bad coach but the players coming trough is just phenomenal and he has no limitations wrt picking his side like his predecessor Allister Coetzee
@@fxpremium8822 The same is true for Graham Henry, Steve Hansen and any coach in any sport who has ever had great success on the playing field. Just accept that the Bokke are better.
@@lfk53 That's why the All Blacks has a superior record over the Boks 🤣 At the moment the Boks has a more settled squad,the All Blacks with their new coach and new first choice players were the better team for almost 70 minutes and I'm a Bok supporter 😂
@@fxpremium8822 nah you are no bok supporter. If you are, then you are confused, you are probably a cape crusader. The AB's weren't better for 70 minutes, if they were the stats would show it and the lead would have been more than 10. Remember the 10 points include an intercept, in reality it was only 3.
@@nicobr00 how stupid do you wanna be? Intercept try counts just as much as normal try. So you wanna tell me I must not give credit to the All Blacks,you are mad. The All Blacks has won more against the Boks and that's an undeniable fact. They hold the Freedom Cup for more than 10 years 🤣 You're confused
I'm 50...my grandfather supported the All Blacks because at that time people of color could not play for the Springboks...but I grew up to my dad listening to Springbok rugby matches on the radio because it wasn't televised ...then South Africa was banned from sport. I can understand admiring the All Blacks for their flair and style... but in the last 5 years , you can't still be supporting a team other than your country. New Zealand won't even accept them if they wanted to immigrate there....and if you want to support New Zealnd in rugby, then support that country in the Olympics and other sports too... These SA All Blacks supporters shouldn't be supporting our SA Olympics and feel pride when they bring home gold if they unpatriotic with our national team. I love the All Blacks...but I'm firstly South African and patriotic
As a child in the 960s I used go to. Newlands. It was strictly Whites only. There was a small pavilion at one end, and there sat the Cape Coloureds. Supporting the other team, always. And I don't blame them. The All Blacks has always been a great team, and they come second to the Boks so me. But after living more than half my life under Apartheid, I still feel joy when I see folks of all races in their Springbok supporter t-shirts. Seeing us all, as a country supporting our national team together is sp special to see ! The Cape Maoris will join in sometime, I am sure!
When you watch the Springbok victory tours in 2019 and 2023 through places like Elsie's River you realize that the Cape Maori is vastly outnumbered by Coloured Springbok supporters.
In Cape Town in particular, they have an historical place as in the days of apartheid, the none whites in the All Blacks stayed at coloured homes when playing here., so they have a special place in the hearts of coloured Captonians. And some commenting that people should move on because we have we got coloured players in the springboks, it's not about that, once you have allegiance to a club don't forget all you who support British football teams and not cape town teams, it's ok. We support Sprinboks but love All Blacks
That's the point. It's not a club. It's your country. Though I can agree the old folks that lived through those years can be forgiven for Supporting the kiwi's. However the younger generation have really no excuse for standing down their own country.
@@skyzthelimit1000 if you live in a dictatorship you will have that minset or patriotic society, which I don't subscribe to, I decide for myself who to support, it's that mindset that make people select bad lenders, not that I don't support the Springbok team but I support the All Blacks too.
I am 74 years of age and lived through apartheid with all its oppressive laws and the late Dr Danie Craven said a black man will never wear a springbok jersey.That is why I was a fan of the all Blacks but now I see black and coloured players in the springbok team I will scream my heart out for the bokke.Shame that players like Pravin Bhana of eastern province and the greatest scrum half like Mawing of Transvaal is not with us anymore then we would be totally representative of the rainbow nation
Mr Fortuin, my grandfather played for KWARU part of the then SARU. I know what you mean sir. Apartheid is gone! I scream for our team and our country. I
People were literally killed because of the colour of their skin. I'm coloured and support the Springboks but I also have older members in my family who support the All Blacks. Their stories of apartheid breaks my heart. They had to endure horrible things just because of their race. Tgey still carry mental and psychological scars. It's not about simply getting over things. Apartheid wasn't a trivial thing. People lost their lives. Some people still don't know what happened to their loved ones or where their bodies are buried. Rassie is the coach of our national team and he understands why people support the All Blacks.
Good commentary Brother. The All Blacks had genuine support then, but now all South Africa needs to cheer their own. Gone are the Apartheid days. Although it's not easy for the old folks who were victims of the crime of Apartheid. I changed the day Mandela told his comrades that it's time to support us. Remember, some comrades wanted even the name to be changed but Madiba said, No!
On a positive notes. Will there ever be a Natives South Africans Springboks team to tour England, France and Netherlands. We've spoken about this for decade's in NZ, "why aren't there a native Springboks team? The Maori All Blacks have beaten the British & Irish Lions in the past. Too much controversy? Maori's didn't want to play in the same team with other maori's because of different iwi (tribes) North traded with the colonial to save their tribe 😂 East traded with U.S timbers for their ships. South at war taking on everything comes their way.. and that our history.. we come together as Maori's All Blacks for the sake of our younger generations coming through
The South Afticans are still not ready yet to fit into the International Sport Arena. Look at the way your behaving yourself during the" HAKA" display on Saterday at Ellis Park. If you do not have the decency to show the necessary respect towards our patriots ( parliament saga ) how will we get it right to behave like decent sport fans internationally. Do we really fit into the norms and values setted by Global standards when coming to sport? AB - community back at home... no I cannot remember displayed such behaviour. I am proudly South African concern about my fellow patriots. I am a protagonist of sport. For the sake of interest.... please can I have some clarification. Rassie Erasmus is he doubled employed... both Director and coach of the SA team?
I'm born in South Africa and I have south pacific heritage from kiribati island I am more closer to my Pacifica Heritage I like the all blacks but I'm more of a fiji supporter the boks are also a good team end of the day I'm a southern hemisphere supporter of rugby 🏉
Its funny u guys claim you r bok supporters but wen dey fall short the green n gold jersey goes in the fire.. its a hard pass from me ALL BLACKS FOREVER BRA💪
No you're wrong. Any SA Bok supporter is a Boks supporter for life. We criticise the players when they play bad, like all other fans do, but at the end of the day our blood is green, and we stand behind the Bokke.
The day when the Bafana Bafana team has being fully transformed ... enjoying the same recognition and publicity as the Springboks do and other sport codes as well and than we as SA can talk as patriots standing together.However we are not out of the bush yet.
The Bafana soccer players are all about themselves, showmanship and money. They don't care about playing for their Country or the fans. They have had so many good coaches, but they still suck!! This is why they amount to nothing.
I like the All Blacks because of their exciting brand of rugby over many years. All my favourite players are All Blacks. Cullen, Umaga, Lomu, Bunce, Merhtens and Spencer. It is what it is. South Africa is my country of birth. I support the Springboks because they are the pride of my country of birth. I grew up dreaming of wearing the Springboks jersey against the All Blacks. It is a complex emotional relationship and many South Africans share this problem.
I'm a proud ALL BLACK! Apartheid had absolutely no impact on me as a young man. I support Liverpool as well and bafana bafana. I have a free will to support who I want to support. Just accept it that not everyone will support what and who you support. Be careful with your comment, don't use rugby to support other idealogy. I am waiting to see how Bafana is supported the day they start to rise...just saying. I conclusion, support your country and all of its sporting codes when they win or lose.
i support Liverpool because my family came from that side and because steven Gerrard was the best midfielder in history i am a springbok supporter. i still think all blacks and boks are the two best rugby teams in history
Those people are confused, you know in the 80s i supported springboks as a black person, what about this afrikaaners is the style they use to play movement of naas botha and my super center Jimmy jourbert ,the individuality the bokke had even today. I always believe i will play for this team as forward as a hooker. Why because they ply for south africa 🇿🇦, then i ask my friends why supporting new zealand. People who you will earn nothing they are not ours .Those near us we will influence and talk to them to understand that they play for 60 million people of South Africa 🇿🇦 see now today they understand we are talented as people of color bless transformation 🙏 ...come back home you cape cape....
My mother and entire family supported the All Blacks during apartheid and when black players were not allowed to play for the springboks. It’s a hangover from those days.
Those guys must be still living in the past man. Look at the crowd at Ellis Park last Saturday, all mixed and enjoying it together, black and white. If they want to stay in the past, let them, they should know what transpired over the years up to the current situation. They're missing out because the shoe is on the other foot now.
@@kesivan what a load of nonsense, you don't get it now you wanna force people who supports the All Blacks. I like the way the All Blacks play rugby but I'm a Bok supporter!
@@edithmiller3114 ask to anyone in the world ! All the world prefer the all blacks. All blacks represent the rugby. Boks never will all blacks aura even if they win many world cups.
@@edithmiller3114 ask to anyone in the world. They prefer the all blacks. Boks never will have the all blacks ' aura even if they win many world cups.
@edithmiller3114 let be honest. Natives Springboks teams couldn't holds that status or even close to it without the helps of non indigenous South Africans 😂 you and i both knows it a facts! Woke 😂
Im a Springbok supporter but what really boggles my mind is WHY WHY WHY do these people trigger other South Africans so much... its so stupid to get worked up for people that support another team
I'm backing my team! All Blacks. Style of play, off the field the guys are so freaking humbled. On the flipside of the coin our SA athletes doesn't have that kind of mentality. I remember a guy like Impi Visser took his back pack away from the rails scared fans would stole his rugby gear, while just alongside him the Black ferns have away their rugby apparels. So no I'm not supporting the All Blacks because of racism that took part in the past. I can share more incidents like this. Kia ora!
There are more Springbok supporters living in New Zealand than All Blacks supporters living in South Africa. South African All Blacks supporters are basically like England Premier League supporters who support teams for the bling of it. We all grew up with a certain background, so did Impi Visser, so did you and so did I.
The funny thing is a lot of them will support there colonial masters by supporting an English football team like Man U or Liverpool or whatever club is conveniently at the top of the log. Biggest business is selling sport merchandise because how often people change there favourite team.
In cricket SA cater for the indians in Durban. And in rugby we cater for the all blacks in Cape Town. Cape town colours / khoi/non white. I am in SA and a proud All Black fan. And never dream to be a springbok fan .the same with Football wil never support bafana will always be a Argentina and messi crazy fan. Same with cricket will not support proteas but i am a indian fan grow up watch the lil master blaster. Sport is just entertainment is nothing to do with standing together.we choice we all have different taste. Only in politics standing together count and there is were the battle is lost.but sport is entertainment. The same with wrestling you need someone to play the heel game otherwise its not entertaining again.i respect SA in sports. I dnt like wen a guy wear in man united or liverpool shirt and get cross coz i wearing my all black shirt.i dnt ask them why you dnt wear a pirates or sundowns shirt coz God give us the postion to choose for ourself.
@Mo-yd8xc sad for the moment and that that.anything in life you dnt lose you learn. I can ask you the same question how did you feel wen Japan won the springboks. Is just sport my friend is just entertainment is not a life or death situation.
@@fabiandavids1414 that was a pool game. The sun rose the next day. My point was aren't you torn when 1 of your countries beats your other country? That loss to Argentina put the ABS on the ropes in TRC. Last Saturday the 'boks delivered a standing 8 count. Hopefully this Saturday they'll get KOD. BTW I'm not South African. I went through there once in 1973. The apartheid authorities wouldn't even let us leave the airport.
@@Mo-yd8xc wen you team lose you feel bad. But that sport it can make you sad can make you happy can make you cry can make you joyfull .that's part of the entertainment.
@@fabiandavids1414 I was really upset/couldn't sleep when the Giants lost a game in the late 90s and the same when Bryce Lawrence knocked the boks out of a RWC
😂😂😂😂😂😂Nogal come back, nah never was a fan if you are a All Black fan you were never for any other team, Bok supporters are arrogant and racist last week they boood the All Blacks while they were doing the Haka and during penalty kicks even SA clubs are in on price fixing when it comes to ticket sales they keeping a data base of ticket sales so only Stomers fans get privilege next AB Bok game in Capetown
I was and never will be an All Black reason for Errol Tobias and Chester Williams and still see the Rapport Kaapse Bok maak amok,I had high hopes and believe one day we gonna rule the roost.Never give up hope just like praying for the GNU to succeed that everyone in this country must be treated equally no matter race, colour or culture.Still remember Syd Going etc but never loose hope.Aslong there's a living God there's hope now my greatest wish is that the coloured nation heal ,unite stop fight and be the sweetest nation God bless
@@hanrethaswartz6901No, you should be called out and rightfully so. You are unpartiotic and against the culture of the game. Pathetic to be honest. I hope everyone that meets you calls you out on your disgusting behaviour.
@@allanhobbs3154 I'm a Bok and some of my family are All Blacks and I'm definitely not embarrassed. I respect their choices and it's not hard to see why there's so many All Blacks fans in SA
@@fxpremium8822 I hear you, but we got Cheslin, Kurt-Lee and plenty others that are now showing what's what. How you do you think they honestly feel, we got what we always wanted and backs are still turned. For me it's madness
@@allanhobbs3154 it's not madness,some are born into that All Blacks culture so that's what they accepted others changed because of ill-treatment of both players and coaches of colour in a new South Africa. Some do support local franchises but internationally it's the All Blacks,some supports the Boks when they play against other nations
Your opinion....thinking.....views.......does not matter.........can you see no All Black Family Member are not taking part of this..........seems like you have lack of Understanding........
this is the first time I here that term "cape maoris", but ya I wouldn't have it any other way, I have uncles who support the all blacks, my brother supports the all blacks and I've been patriotic since I was a child, Springboks, WP, stormers always. even through that spell in the early 2000s omg, they were all terrible years for us. That being said when they got to the 2019 final everyone supported the bokke, even all black fans
I am an All Black, after Apartheid, being an Born free. Proudly South African you say: do any of the BOK fans support local football, not even to mention Man U/Liverpool but Pirates/Sundowns etc. Do you buy local manufactured goods, brands, music or cars. True supporters believe in their team! We love the AB's style of play, no race, no stamp kar and it's like playing chess while running rugby😊 "to each his own" Kia haha Uce
NZ booo DDP because he's a South African, They don't have time for us , they forgot the few that support all Blacks this side , so it's the waste of time
Its silly to support the All Blacks today. We also use to have a grudge againt the english due to the genocide in the anglo boer rear. Afrikaner excellence (thank you Rassie) united South Africa with a diversified rugby team that is among the best in the world. Com'on people , Grant Williams, moody ,kholisi ,Bongi, Sasha, Kolbe, Arendse is you own blood and in the team on merrit. Please come back and support a better south africa! AFRIKANER, ENGLISH, COLOURED AND BLACK ARE NOW IN THE SAME TEAM!!!
@@hakeemclaassen1773 You right. Pity the class you speak of lost the last 2 world cups. But you do you boo. Doesn't mean the All Blacks are not laughing at you.🤣🤣
It's right, if they want to they must enjoy 😉 I can understand because if you are a supporter you do it 100% and after a time it becomes part of who they are + they are just loyal people to their brand like Liverpool or Man U or Man City football supporters . Enjoy
as a 70 year old black rugby and proud Springbok supporter now ...growing up I did not support the Sprigboks or the Allblacks I supported the French they were the only team that could bliksem both the Springboks and the Alblacks 😅 those were the days days when cowboys don't cry
In anybody's book, the All Blacks are great players and mostly disciplined, ethical, respectable men who are passionate about the game. The Cape Maoris now have the best of both worlds... they honour the historical role that NZ took in opposing apartheid, and their excellence as players... now the C.M.s can appreciate the actual game, both winners and losers-the way it's meant to be. I say don't change allegiance, because you are unique, nobody can begrudge you... lekker so 👍
What ? The All Blacks never opposed Apartheid. They kept on making plans to tour South Africa and kept on inviting SA over when the rest of the world had bans in place. They even agreed to come over by limiting the number of Maori's in the team and grating them "honorary white" status. It was the people of NZ who opposed it, not the All Blacks. Learn the history.
Great video and good historical context. I don't hold anything against the older generation for supporting the All Blacks, but I often do question the younger generation. Of course everyone is free to support who they want but let's be honest with each other, many South Africans are stuck in the past. There's a growing number of racist white South Africans who also support the All Blacks because they claim the Boks are a team for quotas.
Truth being spoken here. Its been helluva journey. I remember Newlands in 60s 70s and 80s . The South Stand was 85 -90% for the opposition whenever the Boks played, not just the ABS it was every OTHER team. By the early 90s I was also sitting there. After '95 I saw the millions of my compatriots who took pride in the green and gold with fewer and fewer suurdose pitching up with the old attitude. Still, they were often the ones who left the stadium koggelling us because the Boks took a klap. Since 2019 the Cape Maori has gotten rarer and rarer as the their laaiities are now "Cheslin" and "Kurtley" not "Jonah" and "Nonnu". But tell the truth, I don't care as long as the SA Anthem gets sung like it does in our stadiums then anyone can support who they want. Thanks for the story.
Originally non whites were not good enough , post 1994 qouta policy was needed to force non whites into the Springbok team. Players is policy accommodated yes but not in the hearts of the whites. ( where it matters). This is my personal opinion. No problem problem with my family and many others who prefer to support the Bokke. We live in a Democratic South Africa after all. Please people be reminded that Mandela fight was not against the whites as human beings , his ultimate battle was against " attitudes of discrimination and separation " and he confirm just that with the 1995 Rugby World cup hosted by S.A. The freedom charter opt for an " all inclusive " multi racial S.A. where in everyone is acknowledge.
I'm a cape coloured living in Auckland New Zealand for more than twenty years will always bleed green and gold love my springboks but I have a question for all the cape maori supporters. How many maori players are in the All Blacks squad I know how many south africans there is in my springboks team .To say you don't support the boks because of apartheid that's rich because they at least look like us .If you looking for NZ Maori they not being represented most of the guys are born here in NZ but the parents are not from here look up the current squad unless you white your parents are both born here even Sonny Billy ain't Maori .
Please man there is no such thing as a cape moari …. Get out of the past man ! Leave to New Zealand and see what happens … they’ll send you right back . AB got smashed today , by the true greatest team in history , the SPRINGBOKS !!! 🏆🏆🏆🏆
The simple answer is apartheid. Nothing wrong with them supporting the all blacks. More and more South Africans are getting behind the boks and I think we should all focus on promoting the boks more than caring that there are all blacks supporters here. The boks have transformed imo, there's diversity now like never before and that is a good thing and more reason why people like myself decided to support them. Some might say the change is slow but it is happening and we should all those who want to rally behind them
1. It is just outright immature to insist on backing the AB's over your own team...30 years after apartheid. 2. The AB's Anti-Apartheid credentials is over-stated anyway. Their Administrators made all sorts of iffy compromises to continue playing against the banned Boks - like agreeing to leave Maori players out of touring sides or agreeing that a limited number could be allowed as "honorary whites". So it was the ordinary New Zealanders who showed some backbone...not the AB's. 3. All kinds of people have spent the last 30-plus years trying to mould us into one nation. As such, this is not about what the AB's stood for during apartheid... this is more about rejecting current attempts to heal us and form us into something better.
I don't get it they supported the All Blacks during apartheid but they were a predominantly white side hardly any Maori players in the team puzzling to say the least
It’s embarrassing really. I can understand the older generation supporting the AB’s for obvious reasons, but anyone under 40 should be supporting the Springboks.
@@sweetfragment maybe thats why Jantjies is not playing for the Boks? There is some cognitive dissonance there. No one really cares if they support th AB's but its worth asking questions of their mentallity because its not normal behaviour. They are not proving anything and it probably feels a bit weird for the AB's too. Looking forward to the game...🙏
Lets be honest World Wide most people are in awe of New Zealand. I live in the UK and the average Joe on the street cannot help but marvel at New Zealand just their opening HAKKA is so powerful. Meanwhile, unless you a rugby fan in the UK, (most people are actually not), they think South Africa is the UNDERDOG to even England. Sorry mate to Westerners, South Africa is third world country and you all considered to be POOR🤣🤣🤣
An excellent video, Peter! There are many layers to this and you've explained it beautifully. Having grown up in the Cape and lived there for many years I know it very well myself. As you say, we want them to come on over to the green side! They'll be welcomed with open arms.
So based on your theory people are supporting the boks because of winning rugby and not actual patriotism or admiring the style of play its just wins? No thanks most of the big bekke are 2019 fans and on
The All blacks need them more then we do, if you want to live in the past then youll never grow into the future south africa is more then the springboks but for love of country they are now what south africans can look upto, support you english footballs teams and kiwi teams these countries have colourfull past like south africa they dont speak about it as openly
Not one AB supporter can give give you a good enough reason why they support the ABs. Most of them say its fir the brand of rugby they play. What a stupid answer. If the brand or style was so good, why are they not world champs
I lived in the West Coast for a couple of years when I started working. Vredenburg, Saldanha, St Helena Bay and Vredendal have some of the largest All Black supporting communities in SA. I found it incredibly unpatriotic for South Africans to support the All Blacks over the Boks.
Hangover from apartheid. We have fantastic players of colour who bring so much skill to the boks, that over time those supporters will come back to the Boks.
Its got nothing to do with Apartheid. Maybe the older generation had their reasons but the newer generation just wants to support who they like. Everybody in the comments so Patriotic and so proud to be Springbok supporters, even talking about Olympics. Dont come piss on our backs and tell us its raining because the majority here dont show the same support to Bafana Bafana. Dont even blame it on politics and all that nonsense. I support the AB's and im proud to be supporter win or lose.
They most probably hate their country. Thesedays we have excellent players of all colours and everybody supports them except those who hate their own country.
Thanks for giving such a detailed reasoning for there being so many NZ supporters in Cape Town. I can fully understand the reasoning for it during apartheid but we are now 30 years into our democracy, so hoping the new generations of South Africans will begin supporting their own country again.
I respect everyone's opinions on who they support, and thats exactly what it is, an opinion. What law says you have to support a team just because you are from the same country or place?? We all need to respect each other's opinions, or are you narcissists?? What you say goes?? Sports have evolved into business like environments. If a South African coaching a New Zealand team, does it mean he/has to wear a Springbok outfit whilst coaching a New Zealand team when they play each other?? NO!! I found most supporters to be hypocrites. If you have patriotic pride, good for you. In my opinion, we were better off in apartheid era. Now everything has gone to s#!t!! So let people support who they want. Stop supporting Man United, Liverpool, etc. And support Orlando Pitates, City of Cape Town, Kizer Chiefs, etc you patriots. I digress........
Hkm support jy nie alle teams van SA nie los ons ons hey gladi n history lesson nodig nie bru kap jy aan ons hou by ons Support vir die All Blacks. En dit maak nie saak wat jy nog wil se nie rugby maak nie alles wat fout is reg in die fucked up land nie so jah
Moenie dat Gayten hoor daar is Suid Afrikaanse supporters vir die AB;s nie! Jy sal gedeport word. haha. Tx Peter vir die "reminders" en dankie vir die ootmoet uitnodiging dat die chickens huis toe kom om te roost.
Can you imagine the reverse happening in NZ, "The Auckland Boks", locals supporting another country...its just a little bit insane 😂 Maybe because they were called the "all blacks"? Who do they support when SA play any other nation? Anyone has the right to support who ever they want but it is a strange situation indeed. The cognitive dissonance is strong with some😢
Being from nz this is most likely already a thing here, there is so much support for the springboks even people who arent south african. Heaps of tongan and samoans support the bokkes because of the treatment of polys back in the day
Actually it does happen in NZ because of the 1000s of SA refugees who have fled to NZ. Parts of Auckland are known to be South African enclaves. Can’t say the same about NZers as they by and by largely dont emigrate to SA as it’s considered unsafe place to live
Just an interesting fact. Even during apartheid we always supported South Africans of any race against opponents. Given the time separate development had its flaws. The country has moved on. Have you?
@@real_bakerman Rassie literally says other players can make mistakes it's fine they'll grow but not Manie Libbok. What logic is that? Trokkie Augustus has better stats than Jasper Wiese for years now but still he isn't good enough for the Boks. Hachivah literally outplayed both Marco and Elrigh but he isn't good enough for the Boks 🤣
There's no way the people like me whose in the late 60's will support the boks we adored Brian Williams, Sid Going later Jono lomu and numerous other Maori's . There were plenty of Salman Moerats that time around but wasn't good enough because of the colour of their skin.
@@fxpremium8822 poor Libbok, shame, they literally posted on a Facebook page called "Afrikaners" that a quota costed em the match against Ireland in the RWC!! The comments was 💔!
@@thegreytone yes that's why I understand why so many South Africans supports the All Blacks. Some don't even support Siya as Captain because he's black because according to some Springboks belongs to them. I mean look how shit Willie was but Rassie will keep him in the team in place of a non-white.
Let people support who they want too.
As a young boy in the 80s we supported the All Blacks. It was a way to stand against apartheid. However in the ever since 1995 I became a Bok. Unlike you Chester Williams was my hero. I support the Boks but if the All Blacks play any other team I still support them. I have a great admiration for Rassie Erasmus, wish he could be president. 😅
@@MrKamish Rassie is just lucky he has a great pool of players to choose from,not saying he's a bad coach but the players coming trough is just phenomenal and he has no limitations wrt picking his side like his predecessor Allister Coetzee
@@fxpremium8822 The same is true for Graham Henry, Steve Hansen and any coach in any sport who has ever had great success on the playing field. Just accept that the Bokke are better.
@@lfk53 That's why the All Blacks has a superior record over the Boks 🤣 At the moment the Boks has a more settled squad,the All Blacks with their new coach and new first choice players were the better team for almost 70 minutes and I'm a Bok supporter 😂
@@fxpremium8822 nah you are no bok supporter. If you are, then you are confused, you are probably a cape crusader. The AB's weren't better for 70 minutes, if they were the stats would show it and the lead would have been more than 10. Remember the 10 points include an intercept, in reality it was only 3.
@@nicobr00 how stupid do you wanna be? Intercept try counts just as much as normal try. So you wanna tell me I must not give credit to the All Blacks,you are mad. The All Blacks has won more against the Boks and that's an undeniable fact. They hold the Freedom Cup for more than 10 years 🤣 You're confused
I'm 50...my grandfather supported the All Blacks because at that time people of color could not play for the Springboks...but I grew up to my dad listening to Springbok rugby matches on the radio because it wasn't televised ...then South Africa was banned from sport.
I can understand admiring the All Blacks for their flair and style... but in the last 5 years , you can't still be supporting a team other than your country.
New Zealand won't even accept them if they wanted to immigrate there....and if you want to support New Zealnd in rugby, then support that country in the Olympics and other sports too...
These SA All Blacks supporters shouldn't be supporting our SA Olympics and feel pride when they bring home gold if they unpatriotic with our national team.
I love the All Blacks...but I'm firstly South African and patriotic
Well said
im a maori and i think the cape maoris are awesome we love it stay with the all blacks haha 👍
As a child in the 960s I used go to. Newlands. It was strictly Whites only. There was a small pavilion at one end, and there sat the Cape Coloureds. Supporting the other team, always. And I don't blame them.
The All Blacks has always been a great team, and they come second to the Boks so me.
But after living more than half my life under Apartheid, I still feel joy when I see folks of all races in their Springbok supporter t-shirts. Seeing us all, as a country supporting our national team together is sp special to see ! The Cape Maoris will join in sometime, I am sure!
The Gauteng Maoris don't support the All Blacks at Loftus. They are patriots and support our national team. So it seems to be a "Cape" thing. 🤔
Can't think of another country in the world where large swathes of the population support another country above their own at their national sport.
It's not large swathes.. It's a fringe minority still hurting from the past.
@@peterrugbyeater Sure. I just meant in comparison to numbers in other countries who don't support their country.
When you watch the Springbok victory tours in 2019 and 2023 through places like Elsie's River you realize that the Cape Maori is vastly outnumbered by Coloured Springbok supporters.
Cape Maoris are a fringe minority and their numbers are decreasing.
In Cape Town in particular, they have an historical place as in the days of apartheid, the none whites in the All Blacks stayed at coloured homes when playing here., so they have a special place in the hearts of coloured Captonians. And some commenting that people should move on because we have we got coloured players in the springboks, it's not about that, once you have allegiance to a club don't forget all you who support British football teams and not cape town teams, it's ok. We support Sprinboks but love All Blacks
That's the point. It's not a club. It's your country. Though I can agree the old folks that lived through those years can be forgiven for Supporting the kiwi's. However the younger generation have really no excuse for standing down their own country.
@@skyzthelimit1000 if you live in a dictatorship you will have that minset or patriotic society, which I don't subscribe to, I decide for myself who to support, it's that mindset that make people select bad lenders, not that I don't support the Springbok team but I support the All Blacks too.
It will take time for the Boks to win the hearts and minds of the Cape AB supporters.
Boks don't care about those sell outs
The all blacks home on cape town staturday 🎉🎉🎉we love ABs
I am 74 years of age and lived through apartheid with all its oppressive laws and the late Dr Danie Craven said a black man will never wear a springbok jersey.That is why I was a fan of the all Blacks but now I see black and coloured players in the springbok team I will scream my heart out for the bokke.Shame that players like Pravin Bhana of eastern province and the greatest scrum half like Mawing of Transvaal is not with us anymore then we would be totally representative of the rainbow nation
Mr Fortuin, my grandfather played for KWARU part of the then SARU. I know what you mean sir. Apartheid is gone! I scream for our team and our country. I
All Blacks❤
I❤ the Boks it's my country, forget the past and move on.
People were literally killed because of the colour of their skin. I'm coloured and support the Springboks but I also have older members in my family who support the All Blacks. Their stories of apartheid breaks my heart. They had to endure horrible things just because of their race. Tgey still carry mental and psychological scars. It's not about simply getting over things. Apartheid wasn't a trivial thing. People lost their lives. Some people still don't know what happened to their loved ones or where their bodies are buried. Rassie is the coach of our national team and he understands why people support the All Blacks.
Good commentary Brother. The All Blacks had genuine support then, but now all South Africa needs to cheer their own. Gone are the Apartheid days. Although it's not easy for the old folks who were victims of the crime of Apartheid. I changed the day Mandela told his comrades that it's time to support us. Remember, some comrades wanted even the name to be changed but Madiba said, No!
Ja.coloureds r still living in apartheid era.There is so many coloureds in the springboks side but u r living in the 80's .
The all black supporters from cape town are soccer fans
South Africa is a Rugby mad country.😂
On a positive notes. Will there ever be a Natives South Africans Springboks team to tour England, France and Netherlands. We've spoken about this for decade's in NZ, "why aren't there a native Springboks team? The Maori All Blacks have beaten the British & Irish Lions in the past.
Too much controversy? Maori's didn't want to play in the same team with other maori's because of different iwi (tribes) North traded with the colonial to save their tribe 😂 East traded with U.S timbers for their ships. South at war taking on everything comes their way.. and that our history.. we come together as Maori's All Blacks for the sake of our younger generations coming through
The South Afticans are still not ready yet to fit into the International Sport Arena.
Look at the way your behaving yourself during the" HAKA" display on Saterday at Ellis Park.
If you do not have the decency to show the necessary respect towards our patriots ( parliament saga ) how will we get it right to behave like decent sport fans internationally.
Do we really fit into the norms and values setted by Global standards when coming to sport? AB - community back at home... no I cannot remember displayed such behaviour.
I am proudly South African concern about my fellow patriots. I am a protagonist of sport.
For the sake of interest.... please can I have some clarification. Rassie Erasmus is he doubled employed...
both Director and coach of the SA team?
I'm born in South Africa and I have south pacific heritage from kiribati island I am more closer to my Pacifica Heritage I like the all blacks but I'm more of a fiji supporter the boks are also a good team end of the day I'm a southern hemisphere supporter of rugby 🏉
Its funny u guys claim you r bok supporters but wen dey fall short the green n gold jersey goes in the fire.. its a hard pass from me ALL BLACKS FOREVER BRA💪
No you're wrong. Any SA Bok supporter is a Boks supporter for life. We criticise the players when they play bad, like all other fans do, but at the end of the day our blood is green, and we stand behind the Bokke.
Cape Town Maori ❤
The day when the Bafana Bafana team has being fully transformed
... enjoying the same recognition and publicity as the Springboks do and other sport codes as well and than we as SA can talk as patriots standing together.However we are not out of the bush yet.
In soccer ,money is more important than pride.......?
The Bafana soccer players are all about themselves, showmanship and money. They don't care about playing for their Country or the fans. They have had so many good coaches, but they still suck!! This is why they amount to nothing.
People that don't care about us want to tell us who to support. Go ABs💪💪💪
Exactly, they making a must of something that is not a must,
its funny that ppl call south african all black supporters unpatriotic,but in football they dont even know who is the bafana captain
The same ones who are die hard Liverpool fans and employ Zimbabweans ahead of south africans. Selective/Convenient patriotism.
I like the All Blacks because of their exciting brand of rugby over many years. All my favourite players are All Blacks. Cullen, Umaga, Lomu, Bunce, Merhtens and Spencer. It is what it is. South Africa is my country of birth. I support the Springboks because they are the pride of my country of birth. I grew up dreaming of wearing the Springboks jersey against the All Blacks. It is a complex emotional relationship and many South Africans share this problem.
I hear you and I understand. I felt the same back in the day
I'm a proud ALL BLACK! Apartheid had absolutely no impact on me as a young man. I support Liverpool as well and bafana bafana. I have a free will to support who I want to support. Just accept it that not everyone will support what and who you support. Be careful with your comment, don't use rugby to support other idealogy.
I am waiting to see how Bafana is supported the day they start to rise...just saying.
I conclusion, support your country and all of its sporting codes when they win or lose.
i support Liverpool because my family came from that side and because steven Gerrard was the best midfielder in history i am a springbok supporter. i still think all blacks and boks are the two best rugby teams in history
@SidneyBromfield Agree... Thank you Sidney 👍🏾
Those people are confused, you know in the 80s i supported springboks as a black person, what about this afrikaaners is the style they use to play movement of naas botha and my super center Jimmy jourbert ,the individuality the bokke had even today. I always believe i will play for this team as forward as a hooker. Why because they ply for south africa 🇿🇦, then i ask my friends why supporting new zealand. People who you will earn nothing they are not ours .Those near us we will influence and talk to them to understand that they play for 60 million people of South Africa 🇿🇦 see now today they understand we are talented as people of color bless transformation 🙏 ...come back home you cape cape....
Acknowledging Cape Town Maori's "Mean Maori Mean" ❤
All blacks 🙏💯
My mother and entire family supported the All Blacks during apartheid and when black players were not allowed to play for the springboks. It’s a hangover from those days.
Those guys must be still living in the past man. Look at the crowd at Ellis Park last Saturday, all mixed and enjoying it together, black and white. If they want to stay in the past, let them, they should know what transpired over the years up to the current situation. They're missing out because the shoe is on the other foot now.
Many white people also support the All Blacks,many white people also don't support the soccer team. It's everyone's right to support whoever the want!
@@fxpremium8822 I think you missing the point. Try harder you will get it. I know you better than this!
Yer missing out on ye own history @kesivan truth hurt huh? NZers ain't letting you clowns off 😂
Blah blah blah can't hide from it own it.. 😂
@@kesivan what a load of nonsense, you don't get it now you wanna force people who supports the All Blacks. I like the way the All Blacks play rugby but I'm a Bok supporter!
All blacks are the most popular team in the world !
Not any more.
@@edithmiller3114 ask to anyone in the world ! All the world prefer the all blacks.
All blacks represent the rugby. Boks never will all blacks aura even if they win many world cups.
@@edithmiller3114 ask to anyone in the world. They prefer the all blacks.
Boks never will have the all blacks ' aura even if they win many world cups.
@edithmiller3114 let be honest. Natives Springboks teams couldn't holds that status or even close to it without the helps of non indigenous South Africans 😂 you and i both knows it a facts! Woke 😂
Was
Im a Springbok supporter but what really boggles my mind is WHY WHY WHY do these people trigger other South Africans so much... its so stupid to get worked up for people that support another team
I'm backing my team! All Blacks. Style of play, off the field the guys are so freaking humbled. On the flipside of the coin our SA athletes doesn't have that kind of mentality. I remember a guy like Impi Visser took his back pack away from the rails scared fans would stole his rugby gear, while just alongside him the Black ferns have away their rugby apparels. So no I'm not supporting the All Blacks because of racism that took part in the past. I can share more incidents like this.
Kia ora!
There are more Springbok supporters living in New Zealand than All Blacks supporters living in South Africa. South African All Blacks supporters are basically like England Premier League supporters who support teams for the bling of it. We all grew up with a certain background, so did Impi Visser, so did you and so did I.
The funny thing is a lot of them will support there colonial masters by supporting an English football team like Man U or Liverpool or whatever club is conveniently at the top of the log. Biggest business is selling sport merchandise because how often people change there favourite team.
yes double standards confused people
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In cricket SA cater for the indians in Durban. And in rugby we cater for the all blacks in Cape Town. Cape town colours / khoi/non white. I am in SA and a proud All Black fan. And never dream to be a springbok fan .the same with Football wil never support bafana will always be a Argentina and messi crazy fan. Same with cricket will not support proteas but i am a indian fan grow up watch the lil master blaster. Sport is just entertainment is nothing to do with standing together.we choice we all have different taste.
Only in politics standing together count and there is were the battle is lost.but sport is entertainment. The same with wrestling you need someone to play the heel game otherwise its not entertaining again.i respect SA in sports. I dnt like wen a guy wear in man united or liverpool shirt and get cross coz i wearing my all black shirt.i dnt ask them why you dnt wear a pirates or sundowns shirt coz God give us the postion to choose for ourself.
@@fabiandavids1414 so how did you feel when your Los Pumas beat your All Black's in round 1 IN NZ?
@Mo-yd8xc sad for the moment and that that.anything in life you dnt lose you learn.
I can ask you the same question how did you feel wen Japan won the springboks.
Is just sport my friend is just entertainment is not a life or death situation.
@@fabiandavids1414 that was a pool game. The sun rose the next day. My point was aren't you torn when 1 of your countries beats your other country? That loss to Argentina put the ABS on the ropes in TRC. Last Saturday the 'boks delivered a standing 8 count. Hopefully this Saturday they'll get KOD. BTW I'm not South African. I went through there once in 1973. The apartheid authorities wouldn't even let us leave the airport.
@@Mo-yd8xc wen you team lose you feel bad. But that sport it can make you sad can make you happy can make you cry can make you joyfull .that's part of the entertainment.
@@fabiandavids1414 I was really upset/couldn't sleep when the Giants lost a game in the late 90s and the same when Bryce Lawrence knocked the boks out of a RWC
😂😂😂😂😂😂Nogal come back, nah never was a fan if you are a All Black fan you were never for any other team, Bok supporters are arrogant and racist last week they boood the All Blacks while they were doing the Haka and during penalty kicks even SA clubs are in on price fixing when it comes to ticket sales they keeping a data base of ticket sales so only Stomers fans get privilege next AB Bok game in Capetown
I was and never will be an All Black reason for Errol Tobias and Chester Williams and still see the Rapport Kaapse Bok maak amok,I had high hopes and believe one day we gonna rule the roost.Never give up hope just like praying for the GNU to succeed that everyone in this country must be treated equally no matter race, colour or culture.Still remember Syd Going etc but never loose hope.Aslong there's a living God there's hope now my greatest wish is that the coloured nation heal ,unite stop fight and be the sweetest nation God bless
We don't want. All Black till the end. 🖤🇳🇿
Where do you live? South Africa or New Zealand? If you are in South Africa, get with the programme!!
Doesn't matter ALL BLACK supporters live anywhere & everywhere🖤🖤🖤
We stand together as ONE
@@edithmiller3114 narcissistic of you to try and force me to be a Springbok.
@@hanrethaswartz6901No, you should be called out and rightfully so. You are unpartiotic and against the culture of the game. Pathetic to be honest. I hope everyone that meets you calls you out on your disgusting behaviour.
@@edithmiller3114 once you support Bafana Bafana
All blacks all the way !!
Support whom you want its your GOD given right 😂😂 Bok fans threatened by AB fans 😅😂
Not threatened mate, just embarrassed. Pathetic
@@allanhobbs3154 I'm a Bok and some of my family are All Blacks and I'm definitely not embarrassed. I respect their choices and it's not hard to see why there's so many All Blacks fans in SA
@@fxpremium8822 I hear you, but we got Cheslin, Kurt-Lee and plenty others that are now showing what's what. How you do you think they honestly feel, we got what we always wanted and backs are still turned. For me it's madness
@@allanhobbs3154 it's not madness,some are born into that All Blacks culture so that's what they accepted others changed because of ill-treatment of both players and coaches of colour in a new South Africa. Some do support local franchises but internationally it's the All Blacks,some supports the Boks when they play against other nations
Your opinion....thinking.....views.......does not matter.........can you see no All Black Family Member are not taking part of this..........seems like you have lack of Understanding........
this is the first time I here that term "cape maoris", but ya I wouldn't have it any other way, I have uncles who support the all blacks, my brother supports the all blacks and I've been patriotic since I was a child, Springboks, WP, stormers always. even through that spell in the early 2000s omg, they were all terrible years for us.
That being said when they got to the 2019 final everyone supported the bokke, even all black fans
I am an All Black, after Apartheid, being an Born free.
Proudly South African you say: do any of the BOK fans support local football, not even to mention Man U/Liverpool but Pirates/Sundowns etc. Do you buy local manufactured goods, brands, music or cars. True supporters believe in their team! We love the AB's style of play, no race, no stamp kar and it's like playing chess while running rugby😊 "to each his own" Kia haha Uce
That is not a fair comparison brother
Why not? If you claim to be "patriotic why then are you not supporting south africa in all things? @@haydenwillemse1066
Seki Uce!!!! Love it!!!!
Go all blacks
NZ booo DDP because he's a South African,
They don't have time for us , they forgot the few that support all Blacks this side , so it's the waste of time
Its silly to support the All Blacks today. We also use to have a grudge againt the english due to the genocide in the anglo boer rear. Afrikaner excellence (thank you Rassie) united South Africa with a diversified rugby team that is among the best in the world. Com'on people , Grant Williams, moody ,kholisi ,Bongi, Sasha, Kolbe, Arendse is you own blood and in the team on merrit. Please come back and support a better south africa! AFRIKANER, ENGLISH, COLOURED AND BLACK ARE NOW IN THE SAME TEAM!!!
Why don't everyone support Bafana
The All Blacks are laughing at them because they don't support their own country who are world champions 😅 hahaha
Not accurately bra class will always be class
Plenty of sprinbok supporters in nz mate and they aint south africans either
@@timmado8441 You saying there are many NZ people supporting the Boks instead of the All Blacks... thats the funniest thing I heard all year 🤣🤣🤣
@@hakeemclaassen1773 You right. Pity the class you speak of lost the last 2 world cups. But you do you boo. Doesn't mean the All Blacks are not laughing at you.🤣🤣
It's right, if they want to they must enjoy 😉 I can understand because if you are a supporter you do it 100% and after a time it becomes part of who they are + they are just loyal people to their brand like Liverpool or Man U or Man City football supporters . Enjoy
as a 70 year old black rugby and proud Springbok supporter now ...growing up I did not support the Sprigboks or the Allblacks I supported the French they were the only team that could bliksem both the Springboks and the Alblacks 😅 those were the days days when cowboys don't cry
I love my coloureds & im from NZ!! Lesgooo
In anybody's book, the All Blacks are great players and mostly disciplined, ethical, respectable men who are passionate about the game. The Cape Maoris now have the best of both worlds... they honour the historical role that NZ took in opposing apartheid, and their excellence as players... now the C.M.s can appreciate the actual game, both winners and losers-the way it's meant to be. I say don't change allegiance, because you are unique, nobody can begrudge you... lekker so 👍
What ? The All Blacks never opposed Apartheid. They kept on making plans to tour South Africa and kept on inviting SA over when the rest of the world had bans in place. They even agreed to come over by limiting the number of Maori's in the team and grating them "honorary white" status. It was the people of NZ who opposed it, not the All Blacks. Learn the history.
Simple...they are living in the past ~!
Good luck to them on Saturday.
It's ok with me... support whoever you want to... Bring It On... Bokke 🏉
All blacks all the way 🎉🎉🎉
Great video and good historical context. I don't hold anything against the older generation for supporting the All Blacks, but I often do question the younger generation. Of course everyone is free to support who they want but let's be honest with each other, many South Africans are stuck in the past. There's a growing number of racist white South Africans who also support the All Blacks because they claim the Boks are a team for quotas.
Truth being spoken here. Its been helluva journey. I remember Newlands in 60s 70s and 80s . The South Stand was 85 -90% for the opposition whenever the Boks played, not just the ABS it was every OTHER team. By the early 90s I was also sitting there. After '95 I saw the millions of my compatriots who took pride in the green and gold with fewer and fewer suurdose pitching up with the old attitude. Still, they were often the ones who left the stadium koggelling us because the Boks took a klap. Since 2019 the Cape Maori has gotten rarer and rarer as the their laaiities are now "Cheslin" and "Kurtley" not "Jonah" and "Nonnu". But tell the truth, I don't care as long as the SA Anthem gets sung like it does in our stadiums then anyone can support who they want. Thanks for the story.
Thank you 👍🏾
Originally non whites were not good enough , post 1994 qouta policy was needed to force non whites into the Springbok team. Players is policy accommodated yes but not in the hearts of the whites. ( where it matters). This is my personal opinion. No problem problem with my family and many others who prefer to support the Bokke. We live in a Democratic South Africa after all. Please people be reminded that Mandela fight was not against the whites as human beings , his ultimate battle was against " attitudes of discrimination and separation " and he confirm just that with the 1995 Rugby World cup hosted by S.A. The freedom charter opt for an " all inclusive " multi racial S.A. where in everyone is acknowledge.
I'm a cape coloured living in Auckland New Zealand for more than twenty years will always bleed green and gold love my springboks but I have a question for all the cape maori supporters. How many maori players are in the All Blacks squad I know how many south africans there is in my springboks team .To say you don't support the boks because of apartheid that's rich because they at least look like us .If you looking for NZ Maori they not being represented most of the guys are born here in NZ but the parents are not from here look up the current squad unless you white your parents are both born here even Sonny Billy ain't Maori .
All blacks are the best rugby team in the world if you know your rugby All blacks is a winning team
Please man there is no such thing as a cape moari …. Get out of the past man ! Leave to New Zealand and see what happens … they’ll send you right back . AB got smashed today , by the true greatest team in history , the SPRINGBOKS !!! 🏆🏆🏆🏆
The simple answer is apartheid. Nothing wrong with them supporting the all blacks. More and more South Africans are getting behind the boks and I think we should all focus on promoting the boks more than caring that there are all blacks supporters here. The boks have transformed imo, there's diversity now like never before and that is a good thing and more reason why people like myself decided to support them. Some might say the change is slow but it is happening and we should all those who want to rally behind them
To add I catually noticed a lot more cape AB supporters after apartheid than during apartheid. Weird.
1. It is just outright immature to insist on backing the AB's over your own team...30 years after apartheid.
2. The AB's Anti-Apartheid credentials is over-stated anyway. Their Administrators made all sorts of iffy compromises to continue playing against the banned Boks - like agreeing to leave Maori players out of touring sides or agreeing that a limited number could be allowed as "honorary whites". So it was the ordinary New Zealanders who showed some backbone...not the AB's.
3. All kinds of people have spent the last 30-plus years trying to mould us into one nation. As such, this is not about what the AB's stood for during apartheid... this is more about rejecting current attempts to heal us and form us into something better.
It's ok to support Brazil and Eng and Portugal etc... in soccer but not bafana?
I don't get it they supported the All Blacks during apartheid but they were a predominantly white side hardly any Maori players in the team puzzling to say the least
Honorary Whites.
Please get your facts correct. You do NOT know the history of the ALL BLACKS. Do not thumb suck
It’s embarrassing really. I can understand the older generation supporting the AB’s for obvious reasons, but anyone under 40 should be supporting the Springboks.
Totally agree
I wonder if they celebrated when BOks done their tour of Sa WC victory in 2023 or if they stayed home and miserable
It shouldn't bother you. I left that fight in 2000. I love the boks. Them supporting the ALL Blacks doesn't and shouldn't effect you.
Hershel Jantjies says he grew up supporting All Blacks. He’s under 30, maybe your being ignorant
Should? why because we live here its a new age man ABs till we leave this earth and beyond Go ABs 🇳🇿 🏉
@@sweetfragment maybe thats why Jantjies is not playing for the Boks? There is some cognitive dissonance there. No one really cares if they support th AB's but its worth asking questions of their mentallity because its not normal behaviour. They are not proving anything and it probably feels a bit weird for the AB's too. Looking forward to the game...🙏
They should emigrate to New Zealand
😅😅😅they too poor. They don't have money😅😅😅
Nobody will allow those skollies in
Ha ha
Lets be honest World Wide most people are in awe of New Zealand. I live in the UK and the average Joe on the street cannot help but marvel at New Zealand just their opening HAKKA is so powerful. Meanwhile, unless you a rugby fan in the UK, (most people are actually not), they think South Africa is the UNDERDOG to even England. Sorry mate to Westerners, South Africa is third world country and you all considered to be POOR🤣🤣🤣
@Tinker8531 UK became rich on thr back of her colonies mostly in Africa a d India. No worries we happy to be from Africa. Enjoy England.
@@PatrickJacobs-u1f I don't even like inglan
A South African All Black supporter is like a Chinese Mercedes Benz. Some parts are not authentic.
@@johanolwage213 why do white folk don't support the soccer team 🤣
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An excellent video, Peter! There are many layers to this and you've explained it beautifully. Having grown up in the Cape and lived there for many years I know it very well myself. As you say, we want them to come on over to the green side! They'll be welcomed with open arms.
It's a prank!!!! The poor AB's really think there's real Ab's supporters I South Africa.
Apartheid is lankal veby mn!!!come back 🇿🇦💚
So based on your theory people are supporting the boks because of winning rugby and not actual patriotism or admiring the style of play its just wins? No thanks most of the big bekke are 2019 fans and on
The All blacks need them more then we do, if you want to live in the past then youll never grow into the future south africa is more then the springboks but for love of country they are now what south africans can look upto, support you english footballs teams and kiwi teams these countries have colourfull past like south africa they dont speak about it as openly
Jurra, tsjay skreeu vir die All Blacks, maar tsjy's eintlik All Brown...
Not one AB supporter can give give you a good enough reason why they support the ABs. Most of them say its fir the brand of rugby they play. What a stupid answer. If the brand or style was so good, why are they not world champs
I lived in the West Coast for a couple of years when I started working. Vredenburg, Saldanha, St Helena Bay and Vredendal have some of the largest All Black supporting communities in SA. I found it incredibly unpatriotic for South Africans to support the All Blacks over the Boks.
Not sure why. If kiwis want to support the boks all power to them. I wouldn't have a problem with it.
@@barneyboy2008 A few contrarian rebels make sense, not entire communities of people.
I wonder how many white South Africans will watch bafana bafana tomorrow 😅, I bet non care.
Who is Bafana Bafana again?😂
Once Danny Jordan leaves, I will watch again
If you're South African supporting the All Blacks you should go to work on OUR holidays; just fair tbh
Agree...they all stayed home on the public holiday and braaied because the Springboks won the world cup and SA was given a public holiday
Hangover from apartheid. We have fantastic players of colour who bring so much skill to the boks, that over time those supporters will come back to the Boks.
Its got nothing to do with Apartheid. Maybe the older generation had their reasons but the newer generation just wants to support who they like. Everybody in the comments so Patriotic and so proud to be Springbok supporters, even talking about Olympics. Dont come piss on our backs and tell us its raining because the majority here dont show the same support to Bafana Bafana. Dont even blame it on politics and all that nonsense. I support the AB's and im proud to be supporter win or lose.
They most probably hate their country. Thesedays we have excellent players of all colours and everybody supports them except those who hate their own country.
Because the Cape is the traditional home of traitors in SA?
Cape maoris 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Cape Kiwis 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks for giving such a detailed reasoning for there being so many NZ supporters in Cape Town. I can fully understand the reasoning for it during apartheid but we are now 30 years into our democracy, so hoping the new generations of South Africans will begin supporting their own country again.
Sorry man your guys support English and Europe soccer, come back and support Bafana Bafana.
I respect everyone's opinions on who they support, and thats exactly what it is, an opinion. What law says you have to support a team just because you are from the same country or place?? We all need to respect each other's opinions, or are you narcissists?? What you say goes?? Sports have evolved into business like environments. If a South African coaching a New Zealand team, does it mean he/has to wear a Springbok outfit whilst coaching a New Zealand team when they play each other?? NO!! I found most supporters to be hypocrites. If you have patriotic pride, good for you. In my opinion, we were better off in apartheid era. Now everything has gone to s#!t!! So let people support who they want. Stop supporting Man United, Liverpool, etc. And support Orlando Pitates, City of Cape Town, Kizer Chiefs, etc you patriots.
I digress........
Things were better in the Apartheid era? For who? 10% of the population?
Hkm support jy nie alle teams van SA nie los ons ons hey gladi n history lesson nodig nie bru kap jy aan ons hou by ons Support vir die All Blacks. En dit maak nie saak wat jy nog wil se nie rugby maak nie alles wat fout is reg in die fucked up land nie so jah
Kom support die Bokke man... Ons sal julle met ope arms terug welkom.
Moenie dat Gayten hoor daar is Suid Afrikaanse supporters vir die AB;s nie! Jy sal gedeport word. haha. Tx Peter vir die "reminders" en dankie vir die ootmoet uitnodiging dat die chickens huis toe kom om te roost.
Can you imagine the reverse happening in NZ, "The Auckland Boks", locals supporting another country...its just a little bit insane 😂 Maybe because they were called the "all blacks"? Who do they support when SA play any other nation? Anyone has the right to support who ever they want but it is a strange situation indeed. The cognitive dissonance is strong with some😢
Being from nz this is most likely already a thing here, there is so much support for the springboks even people who arent south african. Heaps of tongan and samoans support the bokkes because of the treatment of polys back in the day
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Actually it does happen in NZ because of the 1000s of SA refugees who have fled to NZ. Parts of Auckland are known to be South African enclaves. Can’t say the same about NZers as they by and by largely dont emigrate to SA as it’s considered unsafe place to live
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To me,it doesn't matter who rule the country,you still have to support your country...
Those people are all crazy 🤪
Just an interesting fact. Even during apartheid we always supported South Africans of any race against opponents. Given the time separate development had its flaws. The country has moved on. Have you?
How is Salmaan Moerat not proof enough that you need to move on as SA Maoiri?
@@real_bakerman Rassie literally says other players can make mistakes it's fine they'll grow but not Manie Libbok. What logic is that? Trokkie Augustus has better stats than Jasper Wiese for years now but still he isn't good enough for the Boks. Hachivah literally outplayed both Marco and Elrigh but he isn't good enough for the Boks 🤣
There's no way the people like me whose in the late 60's will support the boks we adored Brian Williams, Sid Going later Jono lomu and numerous other Maori's . There were plenty of Salman Moerats that time around but wasn't good enough because of the colour of their skin.
@@fxpremium8822 poor Libbok, shame, they literally posted on a Facebook page called "Afrikaners" that a quota costed em the match against Ireland in the RWC!! The comments was 💔!
@@thegreytone yes that's why I understand why so many South Africans supports the All Blacks. Some don't even support Siya as Captain because he's black because according to some Springboks belongs to them. I mean look how shit Willie was but Rassie will keep him in the team in place of a non-white.
the boks will win again do not let that few traitors worry us.
Last match..Just boks had chance. All blacks will win the next because they wont make the same mistakes
Plain and simple. Unpatriotic.
The problem is that they've already paid for their all black shirts and can't exchange it for a Bok shirt. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
These are basically the leftovers that cant afford to immigrate to NZ or were kicked out because they were just loafing there.
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