Ranking All Black Friday Ships - 2022 Edition
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- 0:00 Intro
1:02 Alaska
4:32 Asashio
8:20 Atago
12:14 Atlanta
16:30 Chkalov
19:49 Cossack
23:36 Dunkerque
25:23 Graf Zeppelin
27:39 Jean Bart
31:44 Kaga
34:54 Kearsarge
37:14 Loyang
40:14 Mainz
42:48 Massachusetts
46:12 Napoli
48:32 Pommern
51:07 Saipan
52:36 Scharnhorst
55:06 Shinonome
57:18 Sims
59:01 Tirpitz
1:00:31 Yoshino
1:02:36 Final Tier Lists
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Let me know which of these ships you would like to see more of. This week I want to do “one take” style videos on the Black Friday ships you want to see most!
Cossack. Probably my favourite out of the lot and it'd be nice to see what a top tier player could do in it.
I've been eyeing the Alaska for a while now, so that would be nice
Massachusetts all the way!
I bought 13 bundles and from 2 last premium BF containers I won Assashio B , she is good ship I had one battle 3 kills ... all by gun , but I would not buy her , last year I bough whole bundle with Dunkerque B , this bundle ship Shinonome is not worth it for as I allready have regular Shinonome so no poit spend 4k db to get her , and I have , Alaska , Cossack , Atlanta , Graf Zepplin, Napoli , Pommren & Yoshino so B version are poitless for me , and only 2 ships are interesting for me Jean Bart somehow I miss it when was for coal , and Massachusetts , JB I have Burgugone , Patrie & Richelieu I would like to win one but I wont spend so much DB , same Massa I have Ohio with great secondaries for Helsey , hoestly I would buy those ships but I have something big comming in my life and I might take some break from game , or even never returned , so I have mix feeling spending cash on those ships .
I find ab-so-lutely useless the black versions of ingame ships like Mainz or Napoli.
Why not more "retired" ships like Nelson or Lenin?
This was a fun video. One more thing I really like about Massa is her insane torpedo protection. She can really take a punch. One thing that T8 ships and below really handicaps these days is the virtual certainty you will be playing against subs, which is a bit less likely at T9 and up.
On the other hand you can take them for a spin in Ops, unlike T9 ships. Massachusetts in particular is downright savage in Ops.
Wherever I picked up a BF container… I still don’t know where it came from because when I selected “open all” I heard that beautiful noise telling me I have a new ship… and bloody hell it was the Mass ❤ Best ship I’ve ever won in the game and I’ve been playing since beta lol
I bought Massachusetts last year and I have absolutely no regrets over my purchase.
I had thought at one point that I wanted Jean Bart but her higher price point coupled with the fact that I already own Bourgogne really has me rethinking that.
I bought the regular Atlanta last year with a 25% coupon and my only regret is that I didn't wait until I could get her for 30% off. She can be a real game changer in Ranked this year and she is also a great ship for Brawls, Ops or Co Op. Not so much fun on a more crowded random map but I almost always play ranked, clan or brawls these days.
Scharnhorst is on my short list this year. I've played her as a short term rental a few different times and always enjoy the experience. She's the ultimate cruiser hunter of her tier IMO.
Atago is also on my short list, a solid boat at a good price point.
Lack of heal sinks Mainz for me. Hipper hulls fare poorly without a heal IMO.
Sims is so dang cheap she is worth a look IMO.
Got Chaklov in a free BF container a couple of days ago. Would be an awesome pick up if I played CV literally EVER. Oh well, free is still free.
Spending real world dollars on ANY ship that can be had for coal is dumber than dirt IMO. So just so no to the likes of Yoshino, Pommern, Kearsarge, Napoli and other coal premium ships.
Alaska is still one of the best large cruisers and IMO she or Massachusetts should be the ONE ship you should buy if you don't already have her.
Another difference between Bismarck and Tirpitz is that Tirpitz's front two secondaries can fire forward, as they can fire over the front one. The Bismarck cant fire both of the front two secondaries forward, the second in line cant fire over the first. Minor point, but i noticed it back when German BBs came out.
Nice work PQ, like your content very much.I think that you have taken Tier list making to the next level.Personally, I enjoy Napoli the most but my soul cries for Massachusetts....unfortunately my budget is tight right now.Keep up a good work man 👍.
Heyo Potatoe! All your Jean Bart footage is clear lock on glitch, I have never seen it do that when I play it. Jean Bart is S tier fo rme.
Yea JB is a very good ship.
Its one of my best T9 premiums (stats)
Thanks for this! Great work! Would love to see a one take videos on the Napoli, Atago, Mainz or Cossack. By the way Cossack has very fast torp reload making up for small numbers somewhat.
Dunky is my fav ship in the whole game. It’s a flanking battlecruiser at higher tiers and at lower tiers I absolutely love getting a DD or CA behind me being pummeled by full secondaries as I charge towards anything else. Things have gotten a lot harder in current times with subs as it totally removes the bow tanking sticking all your guns out from behind an island strategy but still a lot of fun for me.
I got Alaska randomly. Watching you praise it and show a game with you running forward, radar, and then getting crushed by everyone on the opposite side kinda sums up my experience with it too... Only moderately fun.
I picked up Mass B this year….I’d been hoping to get her in containers in the past, but I couldn’t keep waiting. So far, I love it.
Agree on the Atlanta. Back in pre-carrier rework the Atlanta was a ton of fun to play and you prayed you would go up against a CV to deplane them. Jingles use to have a video of an Atlanta deplaning 2 enemy CV's but copyright slapped due to music in the video. Cossack is still good but another ship that was amazing pre-carrier rework. It pretty much has no AA and even though it has the brit smokes you don't always have a smoke available so you are defenseless to carrier spotting. Mass has been consistently fun to play through the years. I take out the Lo Yang only in ranked games the last time I had the game installed. Solid review of the ships
very fun and insightful review
Jean Bart is 100% a S Tier
Yeah, JB is awesome in randoms and ranked.
I remember a time way back when you hated the Scharnhorst, glad you have seen the light, good review
Great video we are looking for more ranking vid
Love this vid PQ
i haven't decided which one im going to get yet, but this kinda helps me.
Hi PQ! Great chart - this helped alot thanks for the heads up - DEF picking up the Napoli! I just love the CAMO
I got Kearsadge, Chkalov, and Tirpitz from crates from missions and the sequential bundles. Probably going to plunk down the money for Napoli if i don't get her out of the crates i'm getting with the gold from the missions because goddamnit i want napoli with that camo on it, it's such a good camo.
I'm still mad I just barely missed out on vanilla Massachusetts (it was being sold with Georgia and Thunderer when I joined) so I'm glad I got Mass B from a BF crate last year.
I took the Massa and the Alaska... I read so many good things about those 2... I couldn't let that pass
Same, amazing ships
I can agree where you put Alaska. She is a really fun ship to play. Before the Black Friday event, Congress filled in the spot, since she’s essentially an Alaska with 2 guns removed and put at tier 8.😅
I was on the fence between the tirpitz and massachussets, ended up getting mass. So far I like it a lot. This video is very useful for those in a situation like mine
They aren't even close. Massachussets is so much better.
Conclusion of this vid: get the massa xD
I have an Asashio and an Asashio B on two different accounts and they have sweet win rates and earn big credits. Early it is all about spotting and making their BBs very very nervous. Save health and in the late game, an enemy DD finds he is in a gunfight beause you just hit him with a full bop of Japanese HE and then turn your narrow ass at him and fire again with 2/3 of a full broadside.
I LOVE it when T10 DDs go for me late in the game. They always underestimate how that trade is going to go.
I used my f2p doubloons to get the 1 premium container from sequential bundles and used the rest to get 2 separate premium containers. I of course got 1 of just four ships that I didn't want to get, I'll leave it to your imagination what those four ships are.
Asashio is a different style from most ships - even from Shima - and the unique style makes it fun for people who enjoy changing it up. Also, 'black' camo seems to make a lot of sense for the ninja-style battleship killer, But it's probably C tier. Atlanta.... I agree, fun, but its sooooo overmatched when uptiered, and it's BIG STICK AA was tossed in the weegee wood chipper long ago. It's D.
I bought 5 BF premium containers, and from one of those I got the Saipan B.. not really cv players (played less than 400 matches with cv), but I've tried one match with it, and it was a quite ok imo.
I bought 5 Black Friday boxes, the first one gave me a ship and it is Napoli B I'm excited to try it soon
The Atlanta is a "D"! I play it almost exclusively and in todays game, I struggle to get to cover from my spawn point without getting deleated. I like the Two Brothers map because I seldome get before I get behind a island. CV's STILL come after me and can sink me no matter what I do with my AA.
57:08 made the Texas salty in the game chat :D
I hope next year they release a black warspite for the sequential bundle
I bought 20 Black Friday containers this year. Out of those 20, I picked up an Alaska B, a Napoli B, a Massachusetts B, and a Saipan B . Best year ever.
Crazy! Well done! I got from 25 Container only 1 ship (yoshino).. it remains gambling..
I really enjoy my IFHE Atlanta in t6-t7 Ranked. People tend to bring brawler BB and DD at this tier and the Atlanta really shine. And when I see CV t6, I start to smile.
But it is worth to buy her for those Ranked? I don't think so unfortunately. Even if she is a monster in this situation, spending money just to use her when there are t6 t7 ranked is way too situational.
Thanks for the video, it was fun to watch. I always love tier list vids.
puts JB in B/C tier, shows a clip with JB perma kiting...lol
Got the alaska, so worth it.
JB may be a mediocre T9 ship. But it’s a monster credit printer.
I am running a meme build on zeppelin, is fun in endgame when you have one person to support you it’s a lot of fun, did. that yesterday and brawled away some people, and the last ones standing were me and the enemy cv…. I won
4:32 Asashio is One of the strongest ships in this meta. It has best in class concealment and you outspot (or equal) all tier X and XI destroyers and if you struggle to have battle impact then I have to say that you are playing it wrong. Spot the DDs and sink the BBs and CVs. It's super fun...
I went ahead and gambled and got quite a few ships
Scharnhorst
Alaska
Graf
Mainz (Feels bad cuz i already had the normal one)
Atago (again feels bad cuz i already had the normal one)
Saipan
Tirpitz
Cossack
And i also picked up Shinonome
Not bad for 65 containers
Damn your in debt for life now
the only ship I would want is the Napoli B. It would be a long time for me to get the coal version of the Napoli. however I dont mind whaling out the dubs for the Napoli. I like fire starting cruisers or cruisers with HE/AP setup. Probably the reason why I dont play Venezia because I get that inconsistent damage with SAP. However a Napoli with Sansoneti would be nice.
The prices in this game are outrageous
Both Massachusetts and Alabama are good ships. I wish they would bring in the rest of the South Dakota-class BBs.
Fr I love my Bama so fun and no one talks about it
"People in the chat have decided that they don't like carrriers"
I am beginning to like these people in chat a lot.
I have a 65% win rate in my Jean Bart, so it was a good ship. When it was released. It was removed for reasons that made sense at the time, in WG's thinking anyway. You couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting a Jean Bart for a time. Now it is kind of sad and I have not played it in about 4 months. It sits next to my Atlanta and collects dust now.
Man, playing Atlanta in Silver ranked is like cheating. It is so good still.
Jean Bart's a menace in tier 8/9 ranked though. Speed boost and reload booster on a BB is dank
I'm ashamed to tell but I bought the big container package and got 5 ships out of it. Napoli, JB, Massa, Kaga and Sims.
Since I own JB, Massa and Sims already the added dubs missions are the cherry on the cake. And with the price of the Napoli alone I got break even with that one ship.
I got Yoshino from premium Black friday containers, spended a whopping 3500 dups. I like her
Shinonome has Kagero guns! And while those are not great, people underestimate them a lot! And that's 2 tiers lower!
Funny how power changes with introduction of new line of ships. Cossack from S tier relegated to C at most, with introduction of whole line of radar DD's. Now when you see Gdansk in every single game you can't contest shiite in Cossack. Gee, I just wonder if devs think about this before?
ATAGO!! MY BOY!!!
Even in a tier 10 game it does very well.
thx that help
i bought the black friday sequential bundle. pulled the following.
Napoli
Alaska
Sharnhorst
+Shinonome at the end.
best $25 i've spent on WoW... ever.
I was going to buy the Chkalov and Alaska straight up this black friday sale, but since i pulled all that from the bundle for just $25, buying the Chkalov for 35 seems like a shit deal. I don't know, last year was awful for this, i think i only got the sims and mass from the loot boxes last year, and Alaska was the only ship i really wanted last year. but pulling it from one of the sequential bundles lootboxes took all the fire out of me to bother with spending any more money this year.
shame the smolinsk wasn't in the BF sale this year, i would have broke the bank for her.
hilariously i actually never got the Shinonome from the quest chain, didn't even know it was availible in one, and she's also the boat i had the best match in. first match in her, i got 6 kills, 100k damage, 2 subs, 2dds, 1ca, 1bb, and hard carried my team to the win. still haven't done that much in the other ships i got yea. my second best match in the new ships? also the shinonome with a 5 kill, 65k, 3 sub sinking beaut, for another win. the next best match out of the remaining was an Napoli match with 4 sunk ships, follow closely by an alaska's 3 sunk but 250k damage beaut.
as for why i do so good in the shinonome? because she's basically identical to the AL Yukikaze, a t8 Azure Lane waifu boath. i mean it's absolutely the same boat. same guns, same guns damage, same gun reload, same torps, torps do a little less damage, same smoke, same speed boost, less hps, a litle worse concealment. and i have some tremendous games in the AL Yukikaze, it's a solid boarding on strong boat even at t8, so of course i'd slaughter with the AL Yukikaze (smaller version) in a t7 match against t5 and t6 ships. i already slap stuff in the full version at t8 against t9 and t10 boats with all that radar and cvs and stuff. what do you think happens without all that stuff? you really have forgotten how stupid op it's guns are. they slaughter t6 dds, even with their poor reload, and i have sat in smoke, 5km from a t7 CA and just utterly eviserated it with those guns.
Great i got pommern as my first black. Gambling is soul crushing and the price of these black are expensive for colour and name only..
Atlanta isn't good but if you have one and a spare commander. Go full AA build. You get to negate T6 CVs and that's all you can really ask for from Atlanta these days.
Had all the ships as regulars except for Chakalov, got "group-forced" by my fellow clan mates to buy a set of 5 crates for the lulz and got lucky. Managed to pull Chak and got Napoli B, which was the real steal because it allows me to run two different specced versions. But as I said luck, so I would agree that buying her directly for dubs isn't a wise choice and gambling on dropping the ship you want isn't clever either. I could have gotten totally screwed and get no ship out of the 5 crates given the drop chances. So keep that in mind. In my case it was a calculated risk, because I owned nearly all ships and thus getting the cash back mission did lower risks of overspending. On the other hand I pretty much know right now that I wont buy santa crates...
lol I think Atlanta was my first premium way back in the day, I think I have over 2 million xp on it, and Tirpitz I have 1.5 million or so, Warspite is probably around a million - my most played ships when the game was still in Beta.
My problem with Massachusetts is the uselessness of the ASW with a 5km range. It's very frustrating when a T6 sub sits 6-8km and laughs at you while constantly launching homing torps at you. There is nothing you can do except wait and hope they surface so that you can kill them with your secondaries. At least with 10km ASW (like most other T8 BBs), you are feeling as if you are trying to do something about it.
Yo potato I have missed your mocking laughter , hahahahahahahahahahaha
Bought two premium containers.... pulled Yoshino B.
Cossack is a beast!
Mass, my most played ship.
After having it for 800 games and a 60% WR, 85k avg dmg and 1900PR for an average potato driver, I'll never play any other ship again.
Unless I need to wait for a game to end, then its back to the Alaska lool.
Napoli is my go to for both CBs and when I'm getting tilted for a reason.
I won an alaska yesterday in my second container.
I got rid of my Black Friday Massachusetts. Couldn't hit nothing with it.
I got yoshino, Saipan, and GZ from the 5 containers you get from the sequential bundles. I would recommend doing the sequential bundles but do not buy them on their own.
According to reddit calculations that may end up being more expensive if you just want one ship in particulae
@@MrMrtommy I was talking about buying the containers by themselves not the ships
😱😱 I bought it too and only got sims 🙈
Comparing Jean Bart to a Tier ten battleship yet again. Compare it to a Tier nine please
I'm thinking of getting the Kaga B, only 500 doubs short, never spent in the game before. But should I? Considering they released a dev blog about AA and CV squadron changes few days ago.
I got the Kaga in the christmas containers last year and I like her. hands down the best tier 8 CV in the game. I read the blog and it doesnt look like its going to change much for anything.
It's ok, but it will feel boring for some people and alpha strike isn't as high
Soviet cvs are going to be the new meta. Ijn planes have low hp and with the new aa dynamic you may eat your reserves
@@MrMrtommy On the other hand, Kaga is the only IJN CV that has relatively large attacking flights so it will be affected the least.
Asashio is S tier for me. BB's are terrified of it, you can hold back an entire flank just by being there and I have a ridiculous win rate in it. And when there are no BB's you can control most games with vision and cap control using the concealment. I Love my Asashio. It's my go to when I'm getting tilted playing other stuff and I get way more gun kills in it than you'd think. People just don't expect it to open up on them.
I wanted to like Asashio, but that thing ia so damn specialized. I'd rather play Kagero and have a better time, because I want to have a counter against almost every ship class. Asashio guns hit hard, but the bad reload with 30s turret traverse is a bummer. Also, its AA is so bad that you can't even shoot down fighters. So you're lit forever and you get punished way too hard for being good at killing BBs and CVs. Pan-Asian DDs might be better as their torps can at least at least hit everything except DDs. Nowadays MM isn't so consistent either, which means sometimes you get just 2-3 battleships that spawn on the other flank. So that leaves you feeling useless the entire match :( I've experienced that many a times and it sucks. Sure I can still spot, cap, but where is the damage?
I just take scharn as tier 9 battle cruiser with preferred matchmaking lol
I was hoping for a Musashi B. Wonder why they didn't bring it back. I settled for Massachusetts B this black Friday.
Because they can still milk with more potential lighthouse events.
Just got the Napoli and the atago for free my luck is insane.
I already have an Alabama I enjoy the Masa seems redundant or should I have both?
hey PQ! can you do OneTake on the Riga? russian tiex IX cruiser
i like the black ships , but can the captain from a normal same ship on the black version?
Got a napoli from black friday container
Watch your tongue. Jean Bart is life
Mass. has alkways been good to me. long live the brawler
Wonder what you think of the USS black
I own some B-Ships like Alaska, JB and Kaga.
But i find ab-so-lutely useless the black versions of ingame ships like Mainz or Napoli.
Why not more "retired" ships like Nelson or Lenin?
Asashio has "decent concealment"? WTF? It's elite concealment! It's among the least detectable ships in the game. That also makes it very potent in the end game. I agree on its other weaknesses, and it takes some skill/practice to play it well, but it definitely can deliver battle impact.
JB is SSS tier in T9 in random games, I average 140k and 80 winrate in 200 games, it has a different playstyle than Bourgone.
I really wanted to get the Asashio B this year. But with the Birthday coupon not being a thing on EU i won't buy any dubs, because i think its overpriced without it. So no black ships for me this year.
Can't hear the word Meta for the next couple of years.
The problem with Scharnhorst, is that it's just a Gneisenau that is worse in every way.
I got the Kearsarge in my second mission reward container, but I have no idea how to play CVs, so unfortunately it's just a useless ship for me :)
Last year I bought the Cossack B and it's still amazing. Now I'm considering to buy the Jean Bart, because it's the only time to get it and for tier 9 ranked it is probably God tier.
You have other ships at tier IX that would be better than the Jean Bart. It gets overmatched in tier IX matches as well. As far as god tier for its ship. its not.
You don't NEED to use her planes like a cv. Her 12 guns are crazy dangerous. Two full pens add up to almost 10k damage. Her guns are pretty much Monty levels, but a bit floaty
@@wote2760 the problem is that they are floaty as fuck, any good player will dodge it and when you get closer you die cuz wehee new meta
@@CCM1199 only 460+ can overmatch* 32mm, so only Georgia and Musashi in t9 can overmatch it
@@CCM1199 Well, the ONLY ship that overmatches 32mm at tier IX is the Musashi, but HE spam from cruisers and DDs will be a problem ofc. Then again, a lot of tier X BBs only have 32 bow and stern as well.
I honestly feel like JB is one of the top 5 strongest ships in T9
I think Kearsarge can be way more powerful than people rank it, but it's also the most misplayed ship in the game. It's NOT a CV, but 9 out of 10 times, a Kearsarge on my team is a guaranteed. NOT because of the ship, but the way it's played.
No one has done this kinda world of warships tier list before. Warning ⚠️ Black Friday ships tier list by Flamu coming in 3.... 2...... 1....... 🤣
Massa has pretty bad accuracy, it's very durable though with the quick heals. But as we are, uptiers it suffers as it's not a long range ship.
Since you enjoy playing French Battleships the most, clearly we need a Jean Bart one take. Thank me later.
Atlanta is A tier if you know how to play it right, D tier if you don't know how to play it. B is a good avg for where it should be.
I already have bama tho. Is massa really worth it if i have bama?
No if you like accurate guns, yes if you like to have fun
This is only covering Random's not any other game mode!!
I think you are underrating asashio. I will give some data in the end to underline my take.
I do not feel its one dimensional at all.
- it has best of the tier conceal
- it has high alpha guns wich is not great to farm, but actually very good against other DDs when kiting, because on the kite you can wiggle without losing any DPM. It maintains 100% dpm while heavily rudderjuking, unlike other DDs.
- the torps are extremely strong. yes you cant deal with cruisers, but you obliterate BBs wich is very usefull in the meta. Just like kaga being able to kill BBs quickly will often snowball games into your favor.
-earns a lot of credits
I do not think its a "nieche playstyle". I play it exactly like i´d play kagero, yugumo and other concealment+Torp DDs. You just dont hit Cruisers with the torps. But you can still reverse contest caps, bully others out with superior conceal etc. and if its a very radar heavy game you can still just launch torps at BBs effieciently while being safe, unlike other T8 DDs like benson, kagero, kidd, lightning etc.
To me its amogn the best T8 DDs >>>for normal games
I got the alaska for 12500 gold had some discount
i got mainz B from container lol nice vid btw
Mainz Is a GREAT ship, as long as you don't get spotted by the enemy battleships ;)
Someone got lucky I am getting the Alaska b this year I dont think I am getting anything else
Mainz is a tier VIII German version of Des Moines. I love it.
@@CCM1199 I wouldn't say that it lacks alot of things that demoin have and has somethings in return it is just a tier 8 nuremburg same guns just a better hull and dpm
@@Joze1090 I agree, I played like 3 games and I already enjoy it even if im just average player
I agree with everything except Jean Bart, even in current supership meta, its still a beast. The problem you seem to be having is you are facing away from the enemy, which shows them JB's weak backside, you should instead be facing them and reversing, kiteing should be a last resort in that ship.
I PLAY IT LIKE YOU DO IT IS A VERY GOOD SHIP IN THE RIGHT HANDS
i rly cant say Atalnta and Shino o D, c mon those ships are user dependent and can be S tier in right hands. ..
already have Alabama