You are the most honest reviewer I know. In addition, you always consider price, which is very important for those of us who don't live in "First World" economies or don't have a well-paid job. Thank you for reminding us that even though the "latest and greatest" is usually the best thing to buy, for most of us the base iPad or a refurbished iPad is a better option, even when working as a professional illustrator. I highly value your reviews above everyone else's.
I used to think the same, however, if I have already made up my mind to invest on a productivity/business tool, I would still go for the latest model. Reasons are straightaway, pains the wallet one time and live happily cause you use it as a business equipment so you will earn back the money (self motivation applies). Secondly, softwares and data are getting heavier and vast, the computing power of a device plays a huge role in future-proofing (your business/productivity esp). An M1 device easily lasts 4-5 years, if i get a refurbished model (A12Z, A14) now 2 years later i will have to upgrade again, the costs add up quickly.
We could actually compare the annual cost of every product by the total price minus resale or remaining value over years of usage. $1,000 over 5 years represents the same cost as $600 over 3 years. The differences are (1) one buys or upgrades to a new unit every 5 years while the other every 3 years. (2) one always uses a model 2 years older than the other. (3) Although the annual cost could be similar, the sunken cost (entry barrier) is still different.
Really good advice.... provided your country has those refurbished Pro 2020 units on sale. If you don't have those available, and you still insist on an iPad instead of a Samsung tablet, Air 5 is still the best value you can get, IF you can't find a used Air 4. I upgraded from Air 4 to iPad Pro 11" M1 this noon. Air 5 has the M1 and twice the RAM, but so was Pro 11 3, and I COULD AFFORD IT. If you can't afford Air 5 or Pro 11" 3, a used Air 4 is still the best all-rounder option. And if you already have Air 4 and no money to upgrade, you ain't missing much not upgrading to Air 5. Apple recently outed filing a patent that detailed designs for a MacOS Mode which would allow iPad Pros(and maybe Air 5 because it has M1) to run MacOS when attached to keyboard and trackpad, but you should not make purchase decisions based on Apple's patents; several years ago they filed a patent for a laptop-like device that lets you put your iPhone where the trackpad would be and turn your phone into a laptop like Samsung Dex, but that never came.
From what I know the only diff btw air 5 and pro is the screen refresh rate, but is it worth paying extra for that? I can afford both but don't know if it's worth paying extra..
I actually like the idea of having the latest chip available for continuity and in my country the 2020 iPad Pro is still quite pricier. I will actually get the Air this summer.
I do not. For example, I bought the iPad Pro M1 recently and as I was upgrading from an iPad Pro 2018 I already had the Apple Pencil and Apple case. So it worked out cheaper than buying the Tab S7+ as I would have had to buy the keyboard for that. So if you are in the Apple ecosystem that clarification is not always relevant.
Wow... I JUST purchased this tablet 2 days ago and have been really excited about it. Then I saw you did a video review, and I was like... YAY, let's see what he says... Opening line: "I hope you haven't purchased it yet.... just not worth the money." 😡
@@teohontech7141 Sorry... didn't mean to come across so forward. I did actually consider a Pro, and I watched the refurbished listings for 2 weeks (this is in Ontario Canada). But whenever 2020 pro models was listed, they were always still well over $100 more. I really wanted to upgrade from my iPad 7, and I figured I wasn't going to see a better deal, so I just decided to get a brand new Air. I tend to store most of my files in the cloud so I wasn't too worries about storage. The sound quality and refresh rate seems great and at my age, I wouldn't notice anything that is higher quality over what the Air delivers. LOL I'm happy with it, and in a couple of years I'll probably trade it up with something else anyhow.
@@sadweirdlolafter a year, how do you feel about the air 5? I actually hear a lot that the air 5 is incredible for artists, so I truly wonder if I should get it or the pro 2020. any advice?
@@noone-gf5op Turn out i should said i didnt regret buying it. It support stage manager and it is a beast. If you want something that low in budget but slightly less performance you should straightly go for air 5. Im using ip12pm so not really a problem with 60hz same with the air 5. As an artist im sure it is enough because im also using procreate and luma fusion. No lag just smooth on the go 👍🏻
From the get go you gave us a quick time jump table of contents which I appreciate so you get all my time! Thanks for being a great reviewer, this is my first video watching of yours.
These suckers are hard to get your hand on, I’ve been on a waiting list for several weeks now…! Wish people would take your advice so that I were able to buy mine LOL
Hi, I am a comic artist and currently use the iPad 9 to do my projects. But the limitation of layers has been bothering me a little bit because I need to detail the pages/frames more. I am in doubt between iPad air 4 and 5, which one do you recommend? 64GB is not a problem for me because I use the cloud. The iPad pros in my country are as expensive as a car and there is no reconditioned option.
iPad 9 can get 26 layers of A4 300DPI. If you need more then it's worth the upgrade. Otherwise if your iPad is still working, I don't see the need to buy a new tablet to do the same thing.
@@teohontech7141 Larger screen and work with higher resolutions. The ideal would be to use the b4 600 dpi format, but there are very few layers available on the iPad 9 :/
@@teohontech7141Is the number of layers depend on the size of canvas? In my ipad air 4, there r 31 layers and in other canvas only 15 layers maximum limit
Thank you so so much. After this video I have my own decision that I could not decide from seeing so many other reviewers. The way you review is so honest and precise.
Teoh, do you still a screen protector? I’m debating whether to remove my matte and get (yet another) a glass screen protector and just be careful to draw straight lines faster to avoid wobbly lines. I’m tired of not enjoying how high definition my ipad is. I might also get the leather tip you reviewed but still unsure leaving the iPad screen naked. If you could give some advice that would be really appreciated. Thanks!
@@teohontech7141 thank you, I just ordered the leather tip you reviewed in one of your videos. I’ll use a tempered glass for now since I plan to trade in my ipad for a newer one in the future. Maybe my 12.9 ll keep since there is already one scratch from going naked on it before. Excited to try out the leather tip! Thank you for your time and advice.
He suggested getting the previous iPad Pro model instead. It can much sense, but no mention of the chip. It is 50% faster in iPad Air and Metal is 100% faster. Also more portable then 12.9” Don't waste your time watching this.
Its a great option if you were going to buy tablet anyways but didnt want to spend as much as an iPad pro. I use this tablet and its great, plus I prefer touch id.
I need your suggestions My situation is: I want to buy a new ipad to draw and study. Which one would be a better bang for buck between ipad air 5 and ipad mini 6. Earlier I was thinking about ipad mini 6 but the fact that it has a smaller screen,poor display,mobile processor (as compared to M1 chip in ipad air5) and lower ram i believe it would last significantly less than Ipad air 5.
Both tablets will last for many years. I'm still using iPad Pro with A12X chip and iPad mini 6 uses A15. And my iPad Pro is more than 4 years old and still runs at same speed as day one, so yes the iPad mini processor will last for many years. Main difference really is size. I recommend the larger size. Generally speaking when tablet size is smaller, UI elements, e.g. text, should remain same size, but iPad mini is not only smaller, the UI elements also look smaller and is not as easy to read.
I bought a new one from the education store and sold my old one. Ended up being reasonable that way. I wish the 1st gen pencil worked though, that part sucks
I agree, a refurbished 2020 iPad Pro is better value for money. I will say that blue is my favorite color and I would truly LOVE to have blue devices. So *for me* the fact that the Air 5 comes in blue would be a huge deciding factor.
Holy Cow.... I had never tried Concepts before. (before hearing you mention it). That app "feels" really good/natural when sketching on it. Definitely a bit of a learning curve (which I haven't done yet) with all of the settings and functions. Great recommendation.
I know I'm a year late but hopefully you'll see this. at 3:37 there is text that says "Download link for the wallpapers in video description" i looked and could not find them.
I want to buy an ipad air 2022 because I want to do digital drawing and I need a protective glass (I don't want a foil), but which one should I buy? So that the apple pencil works perfectly.
Even for professionals the 2020 iPad Pro is much better. The 8GBs are not worth it unless you work with very VERY large files (like around 8K resolutions), and even then as you showed you could get the 2021 iPad Pro…
You would be surprised if you creating animatics, or now with the pages option you can do a full comic book. Those layers can ad up pretty quick. You can still do a lot without it and an entry level iPad is plenty good, but if you do have the means you can abuse the power and see it in action.
@@sloppynyuszi oh yes I know. I personally wouldn’t do animation work on the iPad, given how many layers they take, besides Procreate not being the best software to animate on.
@@nicetrayyy yeah, for proper animation it’s not your friend. That’s what Callipeg is for or RoughAnimator. The RAM came in handy in Callipeg though. RoughAnimator I don’t do crazy big projects, just my tiktoks 😅 But I’m doing a comic project now that I discovered pages in procreate. Normally I would use clip studio on my Mac and Cintiq, but since I’m not a subscription fan and I like drawing on the iPad more, this is a not bad alternative. Also animatics are just moving storyboards ;) not clean pretty animations. Those panels of rough drawings really ad up. For projects I plan myself I draw out all the panels and then edit the final stuff in Finalcut. Or lumafusion if I’m on the run. But editing on a touch screen is a cruel punishment. Anyway my case isn’t for everyone. And all levels of iPad are good enough to the point you can’t blame them for your drawings not coming out right.
@@revaldatanaga732 for a student anything with an A13 chip or above will be good enough for artwork. Anything above that is just comfort. Or just big projects where it makes a difference. I could do 95% of my work on an entry level iPad f I was honest.
This information is not relevant for other countries, since in my country air costs about $800, and pro costs $1300. (the average salary in my country is $600) Therefore, the choice is obvious in terms of savings in the direction of air. It was necessary to write in the title of the video also about the country in which such prices are.
Been watching you for over 10 years at this point. I think 10 years anyway, feels like a long time. Really love these videos and especially when you draw outdoors. Keep up the good work.
Currently, the iPad Air 5 64GB is going for 500 on 3rd party sellers like Amazon, the iPad Pro 11" 2020 128GB is going for 549 on Apple refurbished, and the iPad Pro 11" 2021 128GB is going for 639! Which one do you think is a better deal?
I really loved your video, but I’m in France and there aren’t as much refurbished ipad on the Apple Store (more like none) should I get the iPad Air ? I’m in animation I’m gonna do 3D animation
All the iPads are good for taking notes. Just get the one within your budget. Check out the refurbished section on Apple's website too. www.apple.com/shop/refurbished/ipad
hey! I don't know if you're knowledgeable on this, but wanted an external opinion before making a purchase. I currently have the 2020 model of the tab s6 lite, which I've had since 2021, and it's recently stopped receiving updates, and it's becoming quite slow. As an artist and student, i'm thinking of upgrading my tablet, and i thought ipads might be a good idea. I've never owned an apple product before, and i'm not sure what ipad will best suit my needs. I'll be drawing, of course, taking notes for classes and using it to see my schoolbooks, along with maybe some occasional gaming? I'm really not good with device specs or anything of sort, so if anyone could help out I'd appreciate it! I'll mention that i'm on somewhat of a budget, so i really don't want to go for anything that's too much more expensive than 550 (what i have saved so far)
The iPads are going to have mostly similar drawing experience with other features differing depending on price. USD 500 budget is limited to base model iPad with 256GB storage, with Apple Pencil sold separately for another usd 100. Alternative is trade in your old Samsung tablet at Samsung website to get 11-inch Tab S9 which is a significantly better tablet than base model iPad.
@@teohontech7141 i don't think my tab s6 can be traded in it's current condition, if i'm being honest. My little cousin broke it, and there's a long (although very thin and shallow) crack along the screen. Aside from that, i'm aware ipads will ultimately last longer, and older models will keep updating for a while, unlike samsung's 4 year policy. About the current budget i have, i also found that getting a refurbished ipad could be a good option for me, as I found some for 500 euros when i was searching. As for the apple pencil, it's something i most likely won't be getting right away, so currently i'm not too worried about it !
If you can hold off this year then 2023 may see OLED iPad Air which will have Pro-Motion. This seems to be a filler so that people that want the iPad Air pay the same for a more contemporary Air compared to previous version. This seems fair. As for whether it is worth it, then that is subjective, but the shrewd buyers will get this less than £500 in the UK if they know where to look and that is good value for a device future-proofed as well as this is (assuming 64GB is enough). If you need >64GB then the iPad Pro is a better option.
Current iPad Air just doesn't provide more value compared to existing refurbished 11-inch iPad Pro 2020. It will always be this way. In my iPad Air 4 review, I also recommended getting refurbished instead. I'll probably do that in the iPad Air 6 review too.
@@teohontech7141 ...but once you start seeing refurbished iPad Air M1's then you counter that argument? As I said, if you know what you are doing then you will be able to get the new Air for less and it then becomes a good alternative for the base iPad as well.
@@andyH_England I agree with you. Because refurbished iPads aside, a new M1 iPad Air is better value for money than a new 11" M1 iPad Pro at their original, respective list price. Because the Air costs less but has mostly the same features. So if I'm one of those people that doesn't care about the extra bells and whistles, then I'd choose a refurbished M1 iPad Air over a refurbished M1 iPad Pro any day... ESPECIALLY since it comes in blue 💙
Great content and very helpful review as always. I have a question... How about 3D sculpting performance by utilizing the apps like Nomad or Forger on the iPad Air 5 M1 with 8gb ram vs iPad Pro 2020 with 6gb ram? In long term use and especially for 3D sculpting / drawing in procreate etc. which one do you really recommend? Thanks in advance!
Do you still think it's worth buying the 2018 iPad Pro considering it's 4 years old now, will it still be future proof for as long as I want to keep it or will it be problematic soon?
@@teohontech7141 Thank you, I already received my 1TB iPad Pro 11 inch (2018) with 6GB RAM but after comparing price with 2020 and 2021 model with 512GB, i just ordered the 512GB iPad Pro 11 inch (2021) with 8GB RAM, cause it was a very good price and only a few pounds more than the 2020 model and I think 2021 model might be more future proof, so might just keep this
I can tell you that the problem is not the amount of layers you get on a small canvas. The problems is when you have to work on poster size illustrations, on a 8000by8000 canvas and 300 DPI, you will get 12 layers on this one, but only 4 layers on the iPad air 4. Truth be told, I don’t work on big posters very often , but when you have to, it is good to know that you can use your usual drawing program.
In my country, the iPad Air 5 costs $750, and the iPad 10th Gen is about the same price. Considering the layer and the ram, I think I will choose the iPad Air 5, because the Pro ones are very expensive (1,438 :D)
Great video! I have a question - you said and demonstrated that the pencil is quite sensitive when drawing. However, when I tried it out at a store, I was so suprised by how many pressure I had to put on the screen in order to draw. The first time I walked away because I thought it wasn't working, but later realized I wasn't putting enough pressure on the screen. Can the sensitivity be changed?? I'm used to using a wacom tablet without any tough pressure. It would be really bad if the ipad needed so much pressure as it can be very tiring.
Something is wrong. As long as the pen tip is touching the glass, you can draw even if you apply no pressure. It is possible to adjust the pressure curve with certain drawing apps. But it's very likely there's something wrong with the pen or tablet you tried.
In my country Apple don't provide refurbished iPads and other options is to buy from the Amazon but there is Warrenty issue. Now should I go with the ipad air 13 inch
Very informative video, thanks so much. One question I have is if I buy refurbished(for example, the 11pro), does it last as long as if I buy new? Thanks
Hi! Thanks for the review! I wanted to ask which one is better ipad air 5 or the 2020-2021 ipad pro 11 or even older, considering i've never had ipad and i need it for drawing and animation
The main difference would be between the M1 and non-M1 processors (found on iPad Pro 2020). You will get external display support with iPads that have M1 processors. If you have intention to use apps on a larger display, get the M1. If that feature doesn't sound important, you can go with the 2020 iPad Pro if you can find them at good prices from Apple's refurbished store.
@@teohontech7141in my country i couldn't find ipads on refurbished stores. And ipad air 5 is much cheaper (200-300$) than any of 2020-2022 ipad pros. Then how do you think, is buying air 5 is reasonable enough?
One concern I have is how long procreate will keep supporting the 2nd gen iPad Pro. I want to use my tech products for as long as possible. Do you think the 2nd gen iPad Pro will remain relevant for a long time?
Procreate will be supported as long as the current iPadOS. That will be as long as until Apple no longer releases iPadOS for the tablet. Very long. I’m still using 2018 model
@@teohontech7141 Gotcha. And I suppose if the day does come that Apple stops updating IpadOS for that Ipad I could just stop updating and just use the last avaiable version of procreate. Thanks. Also, do you notice any drop in performance in the older processor vs the M1 in terms of multitasking i.e. using pinterest or the photos app, or a browser at the same time as procreate?
@@eyekzmusic Main and only difference I noticed between the 2018 vs 2021 M1 iPad Pro is the webpages load faster on the new one. But it's not like 2018 is slow, just the new one is faster.
So is the ipad pro 4th gen still worth it in 2023? Drawing and animation. I already ordered because I remember your recommendation, but can cancel if anything changed 😅
@@ahmetcakus1572 i have it too and faced the creaking problem for first day when i used it without case but using it with a case then you won't even notice it
@@shreyash__jain which storage op toon did you go for and how is that going? I got mines a few days ago and this seems to be the only thing I’m worried about
All iPads have similar drawing performance. So you choose based on other features, e.g. laminated display, number of speakers, refresh rate, size, price, amount of storage.
Hej, mam pytanie, słyszałem, że różne typy iPadów pozwalają na tworzenie różnych formatów w procreate, lub ograniczają użycie photoshopa lub procreate. Czy wiesz coś na ten temat?
Get the refurbished models direct from Apple's website. They are usually 15% off. The 2020 models or newer are good. Or get Samsung Tab S8 or S9 tablets.
They have the same drawing performance. If you have limited budget, get the iPad Air with more storage which is more useful than the 120Hz and 4 way speakers on the iPad Pro.
Hello Teoh, i just bought this type this morning. now i'm considering to buy stylus pen. need your advice, should I buy apple pencil or just go with cheaper pen? usage for drawing purpose. thanks Teoh
Apple Pencil is the best stylus for iPad. The thing with third party stylus is they don’t have pressure sensitivity. Also check out Penoval or Adonit stylus which are Apple Pencil alternatives
I'm sorry but what's the point in comparing prices of one model being new and the other being used. So don't buy a brand new product if you want to save money but it's entirely different story.
The thing is the refurbished iPad Pro 11 (2020) provides more value for money compared to the iPad Air 5. I cannot review the iPad Air 5 without mentioning that because I want to make sure people know there are alternatives that provide better value for money even when they are not the latest model. Even today I still recommend the iPad Pro 11 (2020) instead of the Air 5.
@@teohontech7141 I didn't mean that it is older model but that it is used. If you compare different things of which one is new and one is used is like comparing apple to oranges. The same way u could say that a new iPad Air has worse value for money to the same iPad Air used (when it'll be available on the second hand market). New is new. For some it doesn't matter for others it means a lot.
@@AdiCherryson It has been several months and my recommendation is still not to buy the iPad Air. I don't recommend this to friends, nor to anyone. The pricing puts this product in a weird position. Refurbished iPad Pro 11 (2020) 128GB and 256GB are cheaper than iPad Air 64GB and 256GB. And if used iPad Pro 11 (2020) is not cheaper than iPad Air 5, it's again more worth the money to get the refurbished iPad Pro 11 (2020) with 1 year warranty. There are people who prefer new. This is not the video for those people to justify their purchase. On its own, sure the iPad Air 5 is a terrific tablet. But there are other options and my reviews take into account of how to get the best value from your money. And the M1 chip is not a selling point to me. Many reviewers like to review products as if price is of no concern to their viewers. I'm not those reviewers.
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You are the most honest reviewer I know. In addition, you always consider price, which is very important for those of us who don't live in "First World" economies or don't have a well-paid job. Thank you for reminding us that even though the "latest and greatest" is usually the best thing to buy, for most of us the base iPad or a refurbished iPad is a better option, even when working as a professional illustrator. I highly value your reviews above everyone else's.
I used to think the same, however, if I have already made up my mind to invest on a productivity/business tool, I would still go for the latest model. Reasons are straightaway, pains the wallet one time and live happily cause you use it as a business equipment so you will earn back the money (self motivation applies). Secondly, softwares and data are getting heavier and vast, the computing power of a device plays a huge role in future-proofing (your business/productivity esp). An M1 device easily lasts 4-5 years, if i get a refurbished model (A12Z, A14) now 2 years later i will have to upgrade again, the costs add up quickly.
We could actually compare the annual cost of every product by the total price minus resale or remaining value over years of usage. $1,000 over 5 years represents the same cost as $600 over 3 years. The differences are (1) one buys or upgrades to a new unit every 5 years while the other every 3 years. (2) one always uses a model 2 years older than the other. (3) Although the annual cost could be similar, the sunken cost (entry barrier) is still different.
I’m buying mine from Amazon wearhouse for almost $100 less
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Really good advice.... provided your country has those refurbished Pro 2020 units on sale.
If you don't have those available, and you still insist on an iPad instead of a Samsung tablet, Air 5 is still the best value you can get, IF you can't find a used Air 4.
I upgraded from Air 4 to iPad Pro 11" M1 this noon. Air 5 has the M1 and twice the RAM, but so was Pro 11 3, and I COULD AFFORD IT. If you can't afford Air 5 or Pro 11" 3, a used Air 4 is still the best all-rounder option.
And if you already have Air 4 and no money to upgrade, you ain't missing much not upgrading to Air 5.
Apple recently outed filing a patent that detailed designs for a MacOS Mode which would allow iPad Pros(and maybe Air 5 because it has M1) to run MacOS when attached to keyboard and trackpad, but you should not make purchase decisions based on Apple's patents; several years ago they filed a patent for a laptop-like device that lets you put your iPhone where the trackpad would be and turn your phone into a laptop like Samsung Dex, but that never came.
From what I know the only diff btw air 5 and pro is the screen refresh rate, but is it worth paying extra for that? I can afford both but don't know if it's worth paying extra..
@@sheelushibani123 what do you intend to do with your ipad?
@@geneoakley digital art
@@sheelushibani123 then Pro all the way. If not for the display, then for the RAM(more layers, apps at once)
I actually like the idea of having the latest chip available for continuity and in my country the 2020 iPad Pro is still quite pricier.
I will actually get the Air this summer.
I usually add $129 for the pencil to every ipad price to get the actual price.
I do not. For example, I bought the iPad Pro M1 recently and as I was upgrading from an iPad Pro 2018 I already had the Apple Pencil and Apple case. So it worked out cheaper than buying the Tab S7+ as I would have had to buy the keyboard for that. So if you are in the Apple ecosystem that clarification is not always relevant.
@@andyH_England You could also say that:
if you're chest deep within the Apple ecosystem, buying an iPad is a no-brainer
@@GWT1m0 ...indeed...
@@andyH_England if you eanna sell your old ipad tell as am looking for buying used ipad 3rd gen 2018
Unfortunately, the 2020 Pro is only available for 256 GB at 800€ now - at least in Germany. Would have loved to grab a 128 GB one for $610 :(
The Bob Ross of digital art. Thanks for your helpful reviews.
The only reason I bought this is because right after I bought my 4th gen iPad this came out. Luckily Amazon had a 60 day return window.
Wow... I JUST purchased this tablet 2 days ago and have been really excited about it. Then I saw you did a video review, and I was like... YAY, let's see what he says... Opening line: "I hope you haven't purchased it yet.... just not worth the money." 😡
Relatively speaking compared to the refurbished options. Anyway since you bought it, enjoy it. It is a very good tablet.
@@teohontech7141 Sorry... didn't mean to come across so forward. I did actually consider a Pro, and I watched the refurbished listings for 2 weeks (this is in Ontario Canada). But whenever 2020 pro models was listed, they were always still well over $100 more. I really wanted to upgrade from my iPad 7, and I figured I wasn't going to see a better deal, so I just decided to get a brand new Air. I tend to store most of my files in the cloud so I wasn't too worries about storage. The sound quality and refresh rate seems great and at my age, I wouldn't notice anything that is higher quality over what the Air delivers. LOL I'm happy with it, and in a couple of years I'll probably trade it up with something else anyhow.
I make the same mistake. Already considered buying pro but this happened a couple month ago. I don’t know how i ended on air 5 256 gb. 🤦🏼♂️
@@sadweirdlolafter a year, how do you feel about the air 5? I actually hear a lot that the air 5 is incredible for artists, so I truly wonder if I should get it or the pro 2020. any advice?
@@noone-gf5op Turn out i should said i didnt regret buying it. It support stage manager and it is a beast. If you want something that low in budget but slightly less performance you should straightly go for air 5. Im using ip12pm so not really a problem with 60hz same with the air 5. As an artist im sure it is enough because im also using procreate and luma fusion. No lag just smooth on the go 👍🏻
From the get go you gave us a quick time jump table of contents which I appreciate so you get all my time! Thanks for being a great reviewer, this is my first video watching of yours.
i think for drawing 64gb is just fine. plus, 2020 pro 11 only has 6gb RAM, and the features it provides are not that appealing
These suckers are hard to get your hand on, I’ve been on a waiting list for several weeks now…! Wish people would take your advice so that I were able to buy mine LOL
Haha I bought mine on amazon it’s on sale too :) it’s placed and shipping too
Hi, I am a comic artist and currently use the iPad 9 to do my projects. But the limitation of layers has been bothering me a little bit because I need to detail the pages/frames more. I am in doubt between iPad air 4 and 5, which one do you recommend? 64GB is not a problem for me because I use the cloud. The iPad pros in my country are as expensive as a car and there is no reconditioned option.
iPad 9 can get 26 layers of A4 300DPI. If you need more then it's worth the upgrade. Otherwise if your iPad is still working, I don't see the need to buy a new tablet to do the same thing.
@@teohontech7141 Larger screen and work with higher resolutions. The ideal would be to use the b4 600 dpi format, but there are very few layers available on the iPad 9 :/
@@teohontech7141 My iPad 9 works, its 1 year warranty ends in the middle of next month.
@@esthephanniecavalcanti1086 For 600DPI B4 size, iPad Pro (4GB) gets 6 layers, and M1 iPad Pro & M1 iPad Air 5 (8GB RAM) get 17 layers.
@@teohontech7141Is the number of layers depend on the size of canvas? In my ipad air 4, there r 31 layers and in other canvas only 15 layers maximum limit
Thank you so so much. After this video I have my own decision that I could not decide from seeing so many other reviewers. The way you review is so honest and precise.
You have the most soothing and calming voice of any reviewer on UA-cam . Your reviews are easy to understand and extremely helpful. Dave in Ireland. 👍
Teoh, do you still a screen protector? I’m debating whether to remove my matte and get (yet another) a glass screen protector and just be careful to draw straight lines faster to avoid wobbly lines. I’m tired of not enjoying how high definition my ipad is. I might also get the leather tip you reviewed but still unsure leaving the iPad screen naked. If you could give some advice that would be really appreciated. Thanks!
I don’t use screen protectors anymore. If the tablet is at home most of the time it’s okay
@@teohontech7141 thank you, I just ordered the leather tip you reviewed in one of your videos. I’ll use a tempered glass for now since I plan to trade in my ipad for a newer one in the future. Maybe my 12.9 ll keep since there is already one scratch from going naked on it before. Excited to try out the leather tip! Thank you for your time and advice.
He suggested getting the previous iPad Pro model instead. It can much sense, but no mention of the chip. It is 50% faster in iPad Air and Metal is 100% faster. Also more portable then 12.9”
Don't waste your time watching this.
Its a great option if you were going to buy tablet anyways but didnt want to spend as much as an iPad pro.
I use this tablet and its great, plus I prefer touch id.
I need your suggestions
My situation is:
I want to buy a new ipad to draw and study.
Which one would be a better bang for buck between ipad air 5 and ipad mini 6.
Earlier I was thinking about ipad mini 6 but the fact that it has a smaller screen,poor display,mobile processor (as compared to M1 chip in ipad air5) and lower ram i believe it would last significantly less than Ipad air 5.
Both tablets will last for many years. I'm still using iPad Pro with A12X chip and iPad mini 6 uses A15. And my iPad Pro is more than 4 years old and still runs at same speed as day one, so yes the iPad mini processor will last for many years.
Main difference really is size. I recommend the larger size. Generally speaking when tablet size is smaller, UI elements, e.g. text, should remain same size, but iPad mini is not only smaller, the UI elements also look smaller and is not as easy to read.
@@teohontech7141 thank you very much....your help is highly appreciated.
Keep up the good work 👍🏻👍🏻
I'm also stuck between the iPad Air 5 and iPad mini 6, did you end up choosing?
@@queensteph8279 ipad air 5
@@utakanu8144 just ordered mine it'll be coming Sunday so excited :))
I feel used/refurbished iPad Pro are becoming more valuable than iPad Air 5. Thanks for the review
I bought a new one from the education store and sold my old one. Ended up being reasonable that way. I wish the 1st gen pencil worked though, that part sucks
@@tomatochemist Yeah it sucks having to buy a whole new Apple Pencil for over $100, BUT it is way more convenient and comfortable to hold. Right?
I agree, a refurbished 2020 iPad Pro is better value for money. I will say that blue is my favorite color and I would truly LOVE to have blue devices. So *for me* the fact that the Air 5 comes in blue would be a huge deciding factor.
San Francisco fan girl appreciates your honesty!
Holy Cow.... I had never tried Concepts before. (before hearing you mention it). That app "feels" really good/natural when sketching on it. Definitely a bit of a learning curve (which I haven't done yet) with all of the settings and functions. Great recommendation.
Omg do you use infinite painter ?
Yes, and Concepts
Wow... !!! My best friend, It's always great. I wish you every day of your development. Have a happy day!
I know I'm a year late but hopefully you'll see this. at 3:37 there is text that says "Download link for the wallpapers in video description" i looked and could not find them.
Here goo.gl/photos/HjY1hmo6p3jfFz8a7
Where i live the cheapest refurbished ipad pro is $300 expensive than the air 5
I want to buy an ipad air 2022 because I want to do digital drawing and I need a protective glass (I don't want a foil), but which one should I buy? So that the apple pencil works perfectly.
There's no need for glass protector. Just a matte or thin glossy screen protector will do.
@@teohontech7141 thank u. And which brand is the best? What should I buy?
@@Lels. If you're buying from Amazon US, get SuperShieldz which is cheap and good
@@teohontech7141 i see thank u 😊😊
Even for professionals the 2020 iPad Pro is much better. The 8GBs are not worth it unless you work with very VERY large files (like around 8K resolutions), and even then as you showed you could get the 2021 iPad Pro…
You would be surprised if you creating animatics, or now with the pages option you can do a full comic book. Those layers can ad up pretty quick.
You can still do a lot without it and an entry level iPad is plenty good, but if you do have the means you can abuse the power and see it in action.
@@sloppynyuszi oh yes I know. I personally wouldn’t do animation work on the iPad, given how many layers they take, besides Procreate not being the best software to animate on.
@@nicetrayyy yeah, for proper animation it’s not your friend. That’s what Callipeg is for or RoughAnimator. The RAM came in handy in Callipeg though. RoughAnimator I don’t do crazy big projects, just my tiktoks 😅
But I’m doing a comic project now that I discovered pages in procreate. Normally I would use clip studio on my Mac and Cintiq, but since I’m not a subscription fan and I like drawing on the iPad more, this is a not bad alternative. Also animatics are just moving storyboards ;) not clean pretty animations. Those panels of rough drawings really ad up. For projects I plan myself I draw out all the panels and then edit the final stuff in Finalcut. Or lumafusion if I’m on the run. But editing on a touch screen is a cruel punishment.
Anyway my case isn’t for everyone. And all levels of iPad are good enough to the point you can’t blame them for your drawings not coming out right.
Im a beginner artist and a stundent, should i get ipad pro 2020, ipad air 4 or ipad air 5 ?
@@revaldatanaga732 for a student anything with an A13 chip or above will be good enough for artwork. Anything above that is just comfort. Or just big projects where it makes a difference. I could do 95% of my work on an entry level iPad f I was honest.
This information is not relevant for other countries, since in my country air costs about $800, and pro costs $1300. (the average salary in my country is $600) Therefore, the choice is obvious in terms of savings in the direction of air. It was necessary to write in the title of the video also about the country in which such prices are.
Been watching you for over 10 years at this point. I think 10 years anyway, feels like a long time. Really love these videos and especially when you draw outdoors. Keep up the good work.
Currently, the iPad Air 5 64GB is going for 500 on 3rd party sellers like Amazon, the iPad Pro 11" 2020 128GB is going for 549 on Apple refurbished, and the iPad Pro 11" 2021 128GB is going for 639! Which one do you think is a better deal?
Probably the 2020 iPad Pro 11 128GB since it can mostly do what the 2021 can do.
I really loved your video, but I’m in France and there aren’t as much refurbished ipad on the Apple Store (more like none) should I get the iPad Air ? I’m in animation I’m gonna do 3D animation
I’m not sure of 3D apps availability from the app store. But iPad Air is definitely powerful enough. Check Amazon to compare prices
I currently dont have an ipad. I want to buy ipad just to take lecture notes. Which one should I get? 4 or 5?
All the iPads are good for taking notes. Just get the one within your budget. Check out the refurbished section on Apple's website too. www.apple.com/shop/refurbished/ipad
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Thank you for the advice, my daughter is going to enjoy her gift.
hey! I don't know if you're knowledgeable on this, but wanted an external opinion before making a purchase. I currently have the 2020 model of the tab s6 lite, which I've had since 2021, and it's recently stopped receiving updates, and it's becoming quite slow. As an artist and student, i'm thinking of upgrading my tablet, and i thought ipads might be a good idea. I've never owned an apple product before, and i'm not sure what ipad will best suit my needs. I'll be drawing, of course, taking notes for classes and using it to see my schoolbooks, along with maybe some occasional gaming? I'm really not good with device specs or anything of sort, so if anyone could help out I'd appreciate it! I'll mention that i'm on somewhat of a budget, so i really don't want to go for anything that's too much more expensive than 550 (what i have saved so far)
The iPads are going to have mostly similar drawing experience with other features differing depending on price. USD 500 budget is limited to base model iPad with 256GB storage, with Apple Pencil sold separately for another usd 100. Alternative is trade in your old Samsung tablet at Samsung website to get 11-inch Tab S9 which is a significantly better tablet than base model iPad.
@@teohontech7141 i don't think my tab s6 can be traded in it's current condition, if i'm being honest. My little cousin broke it, and there's a long (although very thin and shallow) crack along the screen. Aside from that, i'm aware ipads will ultimately last longer, and older models will keep updating for a while, unlike samsung's 4 year policy. About the current budget i have, i also found that getting a refurbished ipad could be a good option for me, as I found some for 500 euros when i was searching. As for the apple pencil, it's something i most likely won't be getting right away, so currently i'm not too worried about it !
What is the layer cap for procreate if you create illustrations on 350 dpi and 5000x5000 px?
If you can hold off this year then 2023 may see OLED iPad Air which will have Pro-Motion. This seems to be a filler so that people that want the iPad Air pay the same for a more contemporary Air compared to previous version. This seems fair.
As for whether it is worth it, then that is subjective, but the shrewd buyers will get this less than £500 in the UK if they know where to look and that is good value for a device future-proofed as well as this is (assuming 64GB is enough). If you need >64GB then the iPad Pro is a better option.
Current iPad Air just doesn't provide more value compared to existing refurbished 11-inch iPad Pro 2020. It will always be this way. In my iPad Air 4 review, I also recommended getting refurbished instead. I'll probably do that in the iPad Air 6 review too.
@@teohontech7141 ...but once you start seeing refurbished iPad Air M1's then you counter that argument? As I said, if you know what you are doing then you will be able to get the new Air for less and it then becomes a good alternative for the base iPad as well.
@@andyH_England I agree with you. Because refurbished iPads aside, a new M1 iPad Air is better value for money than a new 11" M1 iPad Pro at their original, respective list price. Because the Air costs less but has mostly the same features.
So if I'm one of those people that doesn't care about the extra bells and whistles, then I'd choose a refurbished M1 iPad Air over a refurbished M1 iPad Pro any day... ESPECIALLY since it comes in blue 💙
This is such a thorough review, I’m impressed! 👏🏼
do you think the iPad Air 5 currently on sale for $399 is a good deal?
Pricing seems alright for 11-inch 128GB. But it will be really good to get 256GB storage.
Great content and very helpful review as always. I have a question... How about 3D sculpting performance by utilizing the apps like Nomad or Forger on the iPad Air 5 M1 with 8gb ram vs iPad Pro 2020 with 6gb ram? In long term use and especially for 3D sculpting / drawing in procreate etc. which one do you really recommend? Thanks in advance!
I don't do 3D sculpting so I can't say much. But the processor in this should be powerful enough
Thank you, exactly what I was looking for!
The iPad Mini 6 can work with up to 57 layers in Procreate, now.
What about iPad Air 5
Thank you, I didn't buy it. Nevertheless good video and nice drawing.
I’d rather buy the iPad Air 5 than a refurbished iPad pro. We have sold refurbished iPads at work and have had nothing but problems.
Are they Apple refurbished? Those are better than any other refurbished
What better iPad Air 5 (2022) or samsung galaxy tab s7 6/128 FOR DRAWING???
im still stuck between 64gb and 256gb..i want to use the ipad for more than 4-5 years for drawing, taking notes, games..did 64gb are okay??
Better to get more than 64GB
@@teohontech7141 thank you so much for replying! i hope you have a good day!!
Do you still think it's worth buying the 2018 iPad Pro considering it's 4 years old now, will it still be future proof for as long as I want to keep it or will it be problematic soon?
It's still good if you can get it at a good price. I recommend the 2020 model with 6GB RAM instead of 4GB
@@teohontech7141 Thank you, I already received my 1TB iPad Pro 11 inch (2018) with 6GB RAM but after comparing price with 2020 and 2021 model with 512GB, i just ordered the 512GB iPad Pro 11 inch (2021) with 8GB RAM, cause it was a very good price and only a few pounds more than the 2020 model and I think 2021 model might be more future proof, so might just keep this
@@macroid7206 from where u get it in a good price? + how much the 2 devices please
Great I just bought the 62g IiPad Air 5 for 550 including tax lol
Thanks for an honest no nonsense review. I like that you refer to the refurbished models. Cheers
Well my country doesn’t have refurbished so I’ll stick to air 5
Hello, which is the best iPad for drawing, graphic, and work productivity iPad air 5 or iPad 10th gen? Please help me to choose
Pro features on the iPad Air Five will be limited by only one usable storage option, and the pricing is too close to the 11 pro.
To be honest, who uses 156 layers, personally, I don't take up more than 16
I can tell you that the problem is not the amount of layers you get on a small canvas. The problems is when you have to work on poster size illustrations, on a 8000by8000 canvas and 300 DPI, you will get 12 layers on this one, but only 4 layers on the iPad air 4. Truth be told, I don’t work on big posters very often , but when you have to, it is good to know that you can use your usual drawing program.
I do detailed illustration that takes 200+ layers
using the iPad Air 5 to show us better iPad options, you're so cruel lol
In my country, the iPad Air 5 costs $750, and the iPad 10th Gen is about the same price. Considering the layer and the ram, I think I will choose the iPad Air 5, because the Pro ones are very expensive (1,438 :D)
I will buy this iPad and theirs nothing you can do to stop me
But good video
Thank you, it’s very good
Great video! I have a question - you said and demonstrated that the pencil is quite sensitive when drawing. However, when I tried it out at a store, I was so suprised by how many pressure I had to put on the screen in order to draw. The first time I walked away because I thought it wasn't working, but later realized I wasn't putting enough pressure on the screen. Can the sensitivity be changed?? I'm used to using a wacom tablet without any tough pressure. It would be really bad if the ipad needed so much pressure as it can be very tiring.
Something is wrong.
As long as the pen tip is touching the glass, you can draw even if you apply no pressure.
It is possible to adjust the pressure curve with certain drawing apps.
But it's very likely there's something wrong with the pen or tablet you tried.
@@teohontech7141 Thanks!
In my country Apple don't provide refurbished iPads and other options is to buy from the Amazon but there is Warrenty issue. Now should I go with the ipad air 13 inch
I think this year the iPad Air may be a good buy in terms of value for money
Very informative video, thanks so much. One question I have is if I buy refurbished(for example, the 11pro), does it last as long as if I buy new? Thanks
I've got the same thing which I got in August, same color. For me there's no problem with creaking noises as I bought it a year after launch.
ipad air 5 or xiaomi pad 6 for drawing?
Which one should I buy ?
Hi! Thanks for the review! I wanted to ask which one is better ipad air 5 or the 2020-2021 ipad pro 11 or even older, considering i've never had ipad and i need it for drawing and animation
The main difference would be between the M1 and non-M1 processors (found on iPad Pro 2020). You will get external display support with iPads that have M1 processors. If you have intention to use apps on a larger display, get the M1. If that feature doesn't sound important, you can go with the 2020 iPad Pro if you can find them at good prices from Apple's refurbished store.
@@teohontech7141in my country i couldn't find ipads on refurbished stores. And ipad air 5 is much cheaper (200-300$) than any of 2020-2022 ipad pros. Then how do you think, is buying air 5 is reasonable enough?
@@azerakadazera If it's so much cheaper than it's a good deal. They all have the same drawing performance anyway
One concern I have is how long procreate will keep supporting the 2nd gen iPad Pro. I want to use my tech products for as long as possible. Do you think the 2nd gen iPad Pro will remain relevant for a long time?
Procreate will be supported as long as the current iPadOS. That will be as long as until Apple no longer releases iPadOS for the tablet. Very long. I’m still using 2018 model
@@teohontech7141 Gotcha. And I suppose if the day does come that Apple stops updating IpadOS for that Ipad I could just stop updating and just use the last avaiable version of procreate. Thanks. Also, do you notice any drop in performance in the older processor vs the M1 in terms of multitasking i.e. using pinterest or the photos app, or a browser at the same time as procreate?
@@eyekzmusic Main and only difference I noticed between the 2018 vs 2021 M1 iPad Pro is the webpages load faster on the new one. But it's not like 2018 is slow, just the new one is faster.
@@teohontech7141 good to know. A lot of my current apple devices are pretty old and can’t handle multitasking that well
@@eyekzmusic My 2018 iPad Pro has 4GB RAM. Apple's still selling the iPad 9 (2021) with 3GB RAM.
How’s the battery life?
8-10 hours
Ridiculously is that ipad air 5 is thicker than ipad pro 11, and also not lighter than ipad pro 11, what s the point of "Air" tag then?
To further differentiate the products so that they can sell any many price points
Great!! This was so helpfull and thank you for refurbished tip ;)
So is the ipad pro 4th gen still worth it in 2023? Drawing and animation. I already ordered because I remember your recommendation, but can cancel if anything changed 😅
It's still good. My iPad Pro 12.9 from 2018 is still working well today, except battery life is shorter now.
Great video! Very informative and helpful! Thank you!
I got the air 5 since release. It's a great tablet.
do you experience any creaking problem?
@@ahmetcakus1572 i have it too and faced the creaking problem for first day when i used it without case but using it with a case then you won't even notice it
@@shreyash__jain i bought an ipad pro tbh
@@ahmetcakus1572 good ,i bought air because i wanted an ipad just for note making and studies so it was best for me 🙃
@@shreyash__jain which storage op toon did you go for and how is that going? I got mines a few days ago and this seems to be the only thing I’m worried about
would 2021 version be better choice for drawing
Which app is use for scatching? Is is included in ipad air 5??? Thanks.
Which timing of the video are you referring to?
@@teohontech7141 I was just wondering if any scatch app is included from the factory? I did not find any on the new iPad air 5 I just purchased.
Hi ser planning to buy my first ipad for drawing/digital art. What budget friendly ipad would you recommend?
They all have same drawing performance so just choose whichever that fit your budget. Get at least 128GB storage
Which tool did you used for drawing
Very insightful
Hey i saw the number of layers for the ipad air 5 is 116,can i know at what resolution do tou get 116 layers please
Its the a4 size
Is this the M1?
Yes
Soo should i buy this or not..??
4:37 😂😂😂
Thank you for talking about the storage space!! Nobody else does lol
So tell us is this best use for beginners nor professional since theirs more better options for them
All iPads have similar drawing performance. So you choose based on other features, e.g. laminated display, number of speakers, refresh rate, size, price, amount of storage.
Hej, mam pytanie, słyszałem, że różne typy iPadów pozwalają na tworzenie różnych formatów w procreate, lub ograniczają użycie photoshopa lub procreate. Czy wiesz coś na ten temat?
i htink the pro is the only version wich is good for drawing....
Came here for a review, stayed for the relaxation potential.
Hi Teoh will you be reviewing the samsung S8 at all the 11inch.
Probably not. Anyway drawing performance will be similar to S7
So which one is good for drawing thats not $800+
Get the refurbished models direct from Apple's website. They are usually 15% off. The 2020 models or newer are good.
Or get Samsung Tab S8 or S9 tablets.
what a good review, thank you so much
Hi can you review the new samsung galaxy book 2 360 15" for artist ... many thanks in advance ... love your videos
Hello! I'm planning to buy an ipad and I'll be using procreate which ipad is better Ipad Air 5th gen M1 chip or Ipad pro 11inch 4th gen M2 chip.
They have the same drawing performance. If you have limited budget, get the iPad Air with more storage which is more useful than the 120Hz and 4 way speakers on the iPad Pro.
@@teohontech7141 Thank you so much
Hello Teoh, i just bought this type this morning. now i'm considering to buy stylus pen. need your advice, should I buy apple pencil or just go with cheaper pen? usage for drawing purpose. thanks Teoh
Apple Pencil is the best stylus for iPad. The thing with third party stylus is they don’t have pressure sensitivity. Also check out Penoval or Adonit stylus which are Apple Pencil alternatives
Thanks a lot!
Best iPad Air 5 review for me! Bravo 👏👏👏
Very good vid !!
Darn i forgot. Already make a research on this couple month ago. Mistaken buying air 5 256gb😵💫😵💫😵💫
Air is still a very good tablet.
no
nice
So it is worth if your a artist and want a ipad to draw? Are all the apps the same?
There are many good drawing apps on iPad. The apps are usually different from the desktop versions
so good
Do you recomand a Foil ike paperlike or just the Original Screen wirhout foil? In scared of scratches when i draw
You can try. Get SuperShieldz from Amazon. It’s not expensive. If you don’t like it you won’t have wasted too much money
I'm sorry but what's the point in comparing prices of one model being new and the other being used. So don't buy a brand new product if you want to save money but it's entirely different story.
The thing is the refurbished iPad Pro 11 (2020) provides more value for money compared to the iPad Air 5. I cannot review the iPad Air 5 without mentioning that because I want to make sure people know there are alternatives that provide better value for money even when they are not the latest model.
Even today I still recommend the iPad Pro 11 (2020) instead of the Air 5.
@@teohontech7141 I didn't mean that it is older model but that it is used. If you compare different things of which one is new and one is used is like comparing apple to oranges. The same way u could say that a new iPad Air has worse value for money to the same iPad Air used (when it'll be available on the second hand market). New is new. For some it doesn't matter for others it means a lot.
@@AdiCherryson It has been several months and my recommendation is still not to buy the iPad Air. I don't recommend this to friends, nor to anyone. The pricing puts this product in a weird position.
Refurbished iPad Pro 11 (2020) 128GB and 256GB are cheaper than iPad Air 64GB and 256GB.
And if used iPad Pro 11 (2020) is not cheaper than iPad Air 5, it's again more worth the money to get the refurbished iPad Pro 11 (2020) with 1 year warranty.
There are people who prefer new. This is not the video for those people to justify their purchase. On its own, sure the iPad Air 5 is a terrific tablet. But there are other options and my reviews take into account of how to get the best value from your money. And the M1 chip is not a selling point to me.
Many reviewers like to review products as if price is of no concern to their viewers. I'm not those reviewers.