I swapped the engine on my 1190 adventure!
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- Опубліковано 19 лип 2019
- After the valves ran out of adjustment, I decided to exchange my engine rather than rebuild the old. I bought a wrecked bike with 9500km on the clock and exchanged the engine, computers and suspension. Also a few other updates.
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I was stressing about having enough time to get new tyres, nerb goes and swaps his motor 2 weeks out from Simpson Desert crossing
I agree mate, who swaps out an engine weeks before a major adventure, only Nerb can do that and do it right. Thumbs up
I think had it been me? I would have run the original motor until it clattered and screamed in agony! lol.... no more adjustment left for valve clearance? Okay lets see many miles she'll go and THEN put in spare engine....lol
Got Peters (Engineer) number from this video and he welded some tabs on my 1090 to strengthen the footrest bracket, I use the power cell brackets, I can now use 4 bolts each side. Thanks for sharing his details, he’s definitely a legend.
Well done mate. And good luck with the upcoming ride! 👍🏻
Now that is what I call pre-ride maintenance.. Inspires me to keep my bikes going. (2005 FJR and 2013 Super Tenere). Great video, as they always are. Cannot wait for the ride videos from the upcoming Simpson desert ride...
Holy shit Nerb you sure not shy taking on the big job‘s. Well done awesome vid 🍻👍
Absolutt no need for changing bike now... New to you this 1190... Always a plesure to watch you work sir.... Big job...
Great video! 👍🏻 thanks for sharing. Have a nice and save adventure trip through the desert! Good luck!
Greetings from Germany ✌🏻
Just catching up with the Simpson Desert gang's videos... No pressure, just heading off on an epic trip with your buds only to hit the starter switch and find nothing! It was fun to watch. I'm challenged enough with my KLR''s engine. I can't imagine doing a whole engine and electronics package swap on a bike like yours. Well done!
Good to hear the new engine went in with minimal fuss. Will be keen to see what you do with the old engine if\when you take it apart to diagnose the cold starting issue.
You have a lot more skill than I have Nerb, enjoyed watching this video, look forward to your Simpson videos 😃👍
Cool Video mate, enjoyed that. I really like the part where it would not start and your brain was ticking over wondering what it could be.
Good job Nerb1. Happy it all worked out well for you. I like to tinker (basic maintenance) but an engine swap is beyond my knowledge and experience. Was enough of a pain in the arse for me when I pulled my switch gear apart to service an all but seized indicator switch.
Excited to see what's install for the upcoming adventure across the Simpson yourself and Tom have planned.
Well nerb you gotta be pretty proud of yourself buddy absolutely excellent jobmate hope it all goes good for your trip 🤘💪🇦🇺💯
Awesome, Nerb... Huge task, done!
I thought I was watching a Sweetman video there for a second.
Yeah, electronics don't like it when you change their matching computerey bits. We have had that issue at work with European cars.
Glad to see that my sticker is still on there! :-p
Well done mate! Just like a new bike, but still retaining the character of the old bike!
What a job! Impressive!
"Motor" swap... basically a frame swap.
Nice that you get the added features of the '15 model.
Good Job! Shit like that always stresses me out too much.
You can tell you love the horse power, unlike the 790. I sold my 1090R (regret) and bought a cheaper second hand Africa Twin, I miss the horse power of the 1090. Guess it was cheaper doing an engine swap than an engine rebuild, plus you get all the other parts from the donor bike. I crossed the simpson desert last year and loved it. All the best for your crossing on the big bike.
Gr8 Job m8e, I'm looking to change my motor out of my 1190 R in the next week, I've not done it on the 1190 before but I do it all the time on the GS1200/1250 for work, Nice to see you adventuring again :)
It wasnt too hard. I didnt even look at the manual. If you have swapped a motor in something before, you will find it easy as pie.
Epic job mate... well done! :-)
Great video Nerb1 and looks like your all set for the simpson! my 790 R has arrived and will picking it up next week, i hope to be doing the simpson with it next year ... have an awesome time im sure youll have plenty of videos on the trip
Jealous!
Wow bigggg job! Rewarding tho I bet, considering it turned out so well 👍 Cool vid man
Well Done Nerb. It was a good video and
Amazing! I'm in awe of you!
Great video as always!!!!
Congrats. Looks like it all went smoothly, except for the immobiliser...bit of a pain to have to take it to the dealer, but all’s well
Nice , good work👍🏻
ready to go for the Simpson. I know it is going to be epic!!!
In case anything goes wrong on your Simpson ride you now know your bike inside and out. Looking forward to your Simpson vids!
Very true!
7:34 I see so many thoughts and emotions running through your mind.
Impressive. That looked like an unsolvable puzzle of wires and parts before you started fitting the new engine.
Awesome job.
way to go at it i love to watch it normal speed ?lol awesome and amazeing u did right before massive trip too u rock
Well done
Impressive at the very least!!
So cool. Seems to have more power!
It does! I dont think I realised how down on power the 1190 was.
I’ll have to go back and watch to see what the deal with your old motor was. Valves if I remember correctly. I hope mine lasts either way, this job seems a little over my head lol
Way more power than my restricted 1050. Power envy.🤩
Inspiring video - cheers! Great timing too as. I recently dented a front rim so will give your mate a call.
Looking forward to your ‘Simpson’ videos.
2 weeks before the Simpson is pretty keen. Disappointed you didn't show the frame strengthening strut being fitted but another great video Nerb.
I was a little worried about showing anything at all in regard to that. Frame alterations require a viv cert, which is 700+ bucks. I dont want to have to pay that.
Job done new bike enjoy
I go get the $2 coffee from there nearly every day. I didn't know there was an off road section in that area. I'm going to go for a ride and check it out. 😁👍
Just take it easy along the first bit... theres a lot of horse people and I dont like to upset them ;)
Then call in for a free coffee!
Most important tool in a aussie garage seems to be the coffee mug😂
I love how every aussie shows his mug in these videos
I built a really simple wooden work table out of a couple of sleepers and some 90x45 pine. gets the bike up to a useful working height, and only cost me about 20 bucks. I got so sick of working on bikes at ground level.
I stopped watching at 7,55 to comment, this guy knows his bike better than the 99% of us that don't do much more than take the tank off or change a battery. I take my hat off to you. I also now wish that i had done a more detailed job labelling the wiring loom of my lightweight landrover before stripping it down for a chassis change.....merd!
Woooooaaahhh dude...... what a job!!!
Bahh... its nothing compared to what you do!
Brilliant job mate... looking forward to you guys taking on the Simpson... enjoyed your in depth review of the 790 too... have you had a chance to play with the 1090 Adventure R -would be keen on your thoughts!
Crocs - workshop footwear of champions
Now I know why there was no Super adventure show episode this week? Swapping out a motor.
Top Job.
What would it sound like if you had started it @ 6:05 ?
Hope the test rides before the big trip go well.
ahaha those bearings were perfectly fine lol. Compared to my mates which were so dry with rust. the linkage arm could only be moved with a hammer :P
oh and you will like the lean angle ABS, although I have still stacked in the wet, it wasn't the bikes fault
Im sure it can still be crashed!
How many miles on the old motor to run out of adjustment?
Very cool project awesome it worked out. IDK if it was my playback or I blinked but I swear I never heard you actually SAY you managed to transplant the frame update!?? ONLY reason I think you did is I backed up the video to the area after you said "Ten thousand years later" and then paused where there was a glimpse of the frame and yes it looks like you successfully transplanted....would have been interesting to hear/see how that went! I know that weakness destroyed some frames on earlier bikes! Also did you ever state how many miles were on your original engine? Anyway other than those was very entertaining!
Yes, so in the middle of this video (not shown), I took the frame to a fabricator and they added the plate over the shock bolt part of the frame. Didnt end up cutting off the part from the 2015 frame, just made a new one. I was hesitant to show much, because modifying the frame can be an insurance issue in Australia.
The original motor had 100,000km on it. It still ran, but needed another valve adjustment which meant grinding shims thinner.
How many km on the old motor?
One day I hope to leave England and move to aus
So what exactly happened with the engine?
ktm
Great job Nerb, good to see it worked out, how long did it take all up, and have you done anything to investigate the lean condition you mentioned in a previous response? i was rather hoping to get more than 82k out mine.
You should get more than 82k. Im going to investigate a little.
Hi Mate. Thanks for the enjoyable video. Just wanted to ask you, when your bike was wheelieing, was it in sport mode with MTC off and Abs off? Cheers
MTC off definitely. I almost never turn ABS off, so it was on. I dont remember if it was in sport or street... probably sport.
@@Nerb1 Thanks mate. the videos are fun to watch.
Very cool mate, congratulations!!! I haven't noticed until now.... but are you not using the side panels on the tank?
Correct. Because im hanging bladders there, I just took them off so they dont get more scratched than they already are!
Wow huge job how many hours did it take? How many km did you have on the original motor to run out of adjustment? Good work man👍🏻👍🏻
2 weekends. Only 82k on the old motor... I believe it was running lean and prematurely wore it out. I dont think this should be normal.
@nerb1 I've received a swap offer of a '13 1190 adventure (non-R) with 63,000km on the clock against my Super Ténéré... looks like it's had a relatively easy, mostly road-oriented life. I intend to use it 95% on the road too as I also have a T7 for off road.
After your 1190 ownership, would you consider an 1190 with this type of mileage?
They are a great bike. The non-R should be ok, but i would still check the airbox (clean and screws ok) and the top shock bolt (check the frame for cracks at that connection). If youre not confident, get a shop to look at it. Maybe see how many times the valves were adjusted in the service history. If its not shown, it has probably never been checked (which is bad). Other than those, it should be good for another 30 or 40 thousand.
What happen with the original motor? How many kms did it last? I was thinking this big motors would last for a long long time. Thank you.
That’s definitely the question I have!!
Great job Nerb! Well done! How are your wheel bearings?
I will change them also. Havnt yet, but probably next weekend when I fit new rubber.
That’s really impressive work! Two quick questions if you have the time. How many miles were on the original motor? And what made you make the switch, was there something wrong with the original motor? Thanks Nerb, awesome video as always!
82000km on the original motor. The valves were worn out and had no more adjustment. It was cheaper/easier to replace the motor with this 9000km old motor than to replace the old motors valves/camchains/rings.
Nerb1 thanks for the reply. I appreciate the info. Cheers.
Could have used the green screen for a second view or a desert scene haha! Looked like you did that swap easy. My question is what's the 'keep left! ' sticker for? i saw someone else with it in the same spot recently. Cheers 4 sharing sir.
Thinking the same.
The keep left sticker came with the wrecked bike screen. I just didnt bother to remove it. Maybe a foreigner owned it?
Oh ya... I saw it and didn't really think anything of it. That was back in Oct?
But yes that could be a reason why it was crashed :P
how many k's did the old motor have?
Only 82000. I will do a bit of a synopsys on it soon. I think it was running lean for a long time.
Turned out all good. Good info to know. If you would have left all your electronics on the bike, would you have had an issue with it starting? Oh and PS, Make sure you put the tie-wraps on the frame protectors. I gave a set to my team mate at the Rally Connex Dacre and by the end he had lost one.
Cheers
I did zip tie them, but just didnt show it in the vid. The ziptie grooves are pretty good reminders ;)
If I left the electronics, it might start. But the new dash and cpu gives me the lean sensitive abs which I didnt have on the 2013 model.
Have you jammed on the brakes mid turn yet then?
How many kilometres did your old engine have when it ran out of adjustment?
82000 when I pulled it.
Hope the bikes going well, you dont want to sell the centre stand of the other bike do you.
That was the first thing to go... sorry.
Well done on a successful transplant. How did you fix the frame bracket support section onto the old frame?
The fabricator made a new one and just copied the 2015 design. We didnt remove the 2015 one at all.
@@Nerb1 Can you show us what the fabrication of the new one looks like ?
Was thinking the same just needed a Gusset.
how many kilometers on the old engine?
90k
Will we be able to follow you guys (Inreach) on the adventure?
Of course. I will post a link closer to the date.
I’m clueless about such things, but it seems it would have been easier to transfer the 2013 bits to the 2015 rather than the frame swop you did, or was it that the 2015 had frame damage?
Yes, the 2015 frame was dented where the crash bars mounted to it, so the frame was a write-off and is not allowed to be registered in this country. So I just took everything good that was left.
Aha, that makes perfect sense
Wow awesome! How many miles did you put in the original motor to run out of valve adjustment? (2016 1190 R owner)
Only 82000km (50,000 miles). It looks like it was running lean, so possibly wore prematurely.
@@Nerb1 Why was it running lean? Was this from the factory or from modifications?
@@jamesb1412 From factory. I changed the muffler, but the computer should compensate for that. No other mode to airbox or headers.
Hey Nerb, good job! I came here from riding with tom channel :) Did you get the donor from insurance company auction or private party? Also, what is your opinion about soon to be released baby-adv 390?
I mean, do you want to at least test ride it or is it just "meh" for you?
The wrecked bike was bought at auction by a wrecker and sold to me as a complete bike.
Any small adv that gets people out on the road will be awesome. I dont see the 390 being a 'across-the-country' type of bike, but it will be a great weekender.
How about an update on this bike two years 10k later or whatever?
After the motor swap, i did 15000km on it, so the motor had 24000 on the clock. Then I sold it and bought the yamaha.
Gotta hate when you've spent hours putting something together with care, finally press start and.... nothing 😂
I would say a big gamble getting an engine involved in wreck.
Why do you say that? Its not an easily abused motor and the wreck wasnt in bad condition. In fact I rode the wreck around the carpark before I bought it! I also knew the service history. A small gamble maybe, I can agree, but I felt pretty comfortable with it.
@@Nerb1 what are you going to do with your old motor?
I might advertise in case anyone wants it for a reasonable price. If I get no bites, I will probably rebuild it and keep it as a spare.
@@Nerb1 How much trouble to rebuild?
Pretty easy now that its out of the bike, but its still $2k in parts for new valves, cam chains, pistons and gaskets.
I would be very interested in your opinion on the 1190 now that you have swapped to a T7! You seemed to have a lot of issues with the 1190!
I love the T7, although im having some issues with that also. I like the overall package better, but not a lot in it. Handling, ease of maintenance, weight, price... all better on the T7. Power on the 1190 was obviously better, but im ok without that. The 1190 was great though. An awesome bike, but as ive slowly been riding harder and harder terrain, and im getting older and older, the 1190 was getting more difficult to manage. The T7 was a nice step down.
Really interesting to hear! I’m surprised you’re having problems with the T7! I haven’t tried one but looks good!
I was keen for an 1190 or 1090 but ended up with a 1250 which is an awesome bike. I’d been keen for something less expensive to ride off road though. Will be looking through summer when the market slows down.
Thanks for your videos and reply! Ride safe!
Nice work mate. How long did it take to reinstall.
Well I wasnt exactly rushing, but motor, swingarm, subframe plastic, radiator and electrics was 4 or 5 hours then another 2 maybe, for the tank, plastics and bashplate. I essentially started friday after work, a little saturday night (saturday day are full of sports) and then finished sunday by lunch.
@@Nerb1 Wow, good going mate. It's taken me 2 months just to get around at looking into my clutch dragging on the 950 LOL.
Would it not been cheaper to let someone refurbish the valve seating?
Yes, but how long would it last? I'd have to do this at some point
@@Nerb1 Yeah you might be right, but sounds weird it got worn out at all so fast.
How many km did you have on your old engine before you swapped?
82,000. Not enough imo.
Nerb1 woahhhh only 82000km that’s not the best lifespan is it.., stroke of luck you picked up that spare wreck.
@@Nerb1 A guy I follow on Insta has 150,000 + around the world travel and still going...
@@Nerb1 Hope to get more than this from my 2013 990....
Hi, just stumbled upon this and have no history...how come you ran out of valve adjustment? super high miles? I did almost 90.000 miles on my SM 990 and had to swap to a new engine because of base gasket leak, and it makes no financial sense to rebuild the old lump. Had to check the valves maybe 6 times in all those miles, and only adjusted them 2x i think. Anyway, fresh 3.000 miles motor in there, good for another 87.000 miles :)
just saw your answer below...82.000kms...that's not very much. hmmmm
It seems it was running lean. Thats my best guess for the quick burnout of valves. Exhaust was very white.
Did you feel the swing arm bearings going bad or just noticed they were toast when they were out? Are you going to make the new wheel tubeless?
I didnt notice them. When I pulled the pivot bolt out, it was stuck. Then I noticed the bearings were clogged up and one seemed totally seized
New front will be tubed. I would prefer tubeless, but no easy option around without spending well over a grand.
@@Nerb1 A very reputable wheel builder here in the states (woodys wheels) uses the outex tape system. A couple of the people I ride with use the 3M extreme sealing tape with excel takasagos. Cyclecruza(sp?) Has a video out where he uses 3m sealant and the tape. Rottweiller used the 3m tape in its 1290 build. Its around $50 for 5 yards. I think its 3m part number 4412.
@@mojoriden It is good stuff... Bead locks are nice also.
I might do that Mojo. Will look into it more.
Fuck this amount of digital electric shit though, man. I would literally rather have a carb. Once you break the seal on a bike like this, it will never ever ever be the same as stock ever again no matter what you do.
Hmmm wonder if that motor will shoehorn into a 525 lol
We can try!
Nerb1 I’ve put bigger things in in engine bays that shouldn’t have gone in lol
No i dont know, tight as what???? lol.
A saying not suitable for 2019! Haha
A Scotsman’s wallet, obviously
@@Tech-49 ah yes, of course.
A Nun's nasty!